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[Q] Can the Vivid be used on Straight Talk?

Hi all. A friend of mine was looking to get an Android on Straight Talk. Before picking up one of the abominable offerings, I noticed that Straight Talk takes unlocked AT&T and T-Mo phones. I wanted to double check if anyone could confirm that it works. Can anyone fill me in?

YamiYaiba said:
Hi all. A friend of mine was looking to get an Android on Straight Talk. Before picking up one of the abominable offerings, I noticed that Straight Talk takes unlocked AT&T and T-Mo phones. I wanted to double check if anyone could confirm that it works. Can anyone fill me in?
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it doesnt have to be unlocked... i havent tried the vivid, but i did sell my inspire to a co-worker and he had no issues using it on straight talk.

Tell him to order the sim for att...from st8talk... and it will work no problem

Straight Talk is actually an MNVO (mobile network virtual operator) that runs on the AT&T towers, so any AT&T device is compatible on a basic level. You will need to change the apn for data access. I think it is att.mnvo or something similar. I have read that your data speeds will likely be throttled to a lower speed. If data speed is important, you may also want to check to see if you will have access to LTE and/or HSPA+ networks.
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Mad Medik said:
Straight Talk is actually an MNVO (mobile network virtual operator) that runs on the AT&T towers, so any AT&T device is compatible on a basic level. You will need to change the apn for data access. I think it is att.mnvo or something similar. I have read that your data speeds will likely be throttled to a lower speed. If data speed is important, you may also want to check to see if you will have access to LTE and/or HSPA+ networks.
MM
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yea exactly... i just set a phones apn up with st8talk and their website has a lot of info on what they require

Mad Medik said:
Straight Talk is actually an MNVO (mobile network virtual operator) that runs on the AT&T towers, so any AT&T device is compatible on a basic level. You will need to change the apn for data access. I think it is att.mnvo or something similar. I have read that your data speeds will likely be throttled to a lower speed. If data speed is important, you may also want to check to see if you will have access to LTE and/or HSPA+ networks.
MM
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Thanks for the EXCELLENT reply. That was extremely helpful. I do have a couple followup questions.
Straight Talk is accepting T-Mo phones as well. Would those also run off the AT&T network still?
Also, she alleges that she doesn't have AT&T service where she lives. She is currently using a Wal-Mart purchased Straight Talk flip phone. Can someone explain that???

YamiYaiba said:
Thanks for the EXCELLENT reply. That was extremely helpful.
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You're welcome!
YamiYaiba said:
Straight Talk is accepting T-Mo phones as well. Would those also run off the AT&T network still?
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Yes, so they would have to be network unlocked. Also, since T-MO and AT&T have some differences in frequency bands and data transmission protocols for high speed, most T-MO phones won't be able to access high speed data.
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she alleges that she doesn't have AT&T service where she lives. She is currently using a Wal-Mart purchased Straight Talk flip phone. Can someone explain that???
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I have read that AT&T and T-MO have roaming agreements for voice (not sure about data) and that these agreements only apply for monthly plans, not pay as you go. It could be that the monthly plan MNVO users also have the benefit of the roaming? If you are curious, ask her to check her network settings and it should indicate if she is connected to at&t/smart talk or if it is t-mo. Since it is covered under agreement, I don't know if it shows up as a roaming status on the main screen. Assuming she is correct about the AT&T thing to begin with...
MM
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Right now, she's just using an old dumb phone her parents picked up from Walmart, so information is limited at best. Doubly so since I'm in Tennessee and she's in Alabama.
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Do you have the model and brand of the phone she is using?
If it is AT&T Sim from Straight Talk will operate on ATT towers. If it is TMO sim will operate on T-Mobile towers.
If her area is not covered by T-MO or ATT, then she may be using a Straight Talk CDMA phone which could run on another provider like Verizon.
I have the Vivid with Sraight Talk and no problems. I do have an issue sending MMS messages, which is an issue with my phone (I switched the SIM to a Galaxy and to HTC Inspire and I was able to send MMS).
Does anybody know why? (I'm using the APN recommended by Straight Talk).

To clarify a few things: I too have Straight Talk on my brothers Vivid with. Att SIM. I do NOT suggest getting a Tmo SIM. Reception is awfull if you aren't in a large city. Also you can NOT roam the ATT towers with the Tmo SIM. Data Speeds are NOT throttled at all and I regularly hit 700-1000KB dl or 6-8megs however you calculate. Straight Talk will throttle you if you repeatedly use over 2GB of data a month buy for 45$ a month you can't lose. Hope this helps

Vivid and MMS?
Nate,
Are you able to send MMS messages with your Vivid?
I'm able to connect to Internet and make calls. I configured the APN correctly and I still can't send MMS. If I switch my SIM to any other phone, I'm able to send MMS. Any idea on this?
Thanks!!
PS. And yes, $45 per month is awesome!

Hi gifr, yes mms works perfectly. It may be an issue with your Rom, your Texting App, or an apn setting. That's the only thing I think it could be.

I have been thinking of doing this with NET10 which it is my understanding is the same thing as Straight Talk and works with both AT&T and T-Mobile towers.
Is the data really unlimited or are you slowed down after a certain amount?
Does Visual Voicemail work?
Can specified only for AT&T and T-Mobile apps be installed and used?

Visual voice mail doesn't work on my vivid but everything else does.

raysurrx7 said:
Visual voice mail doesn't work on my vivid but everything else does.
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Please can someone share a link to the apn configuration where the most features work?
Like if I could get everything but VisualVoicemail working that'd be amazing...
The device is an HTC VIVID, currently running PACman ROM...
PLEASE, any/all help is greatly appreciated. He really needs his phone working again...
Thank you all...

Handcent SMS app now has the option to set APN specifically for MMS. That's what it took to get MMS working on my Vivid on Straighttalk. My setup is:
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Proxy: 66.209.11.33
Port: 80
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rassawyer said:
Handcent SMS app now has the option to set APN specifically for MMS. That's what it took to get MMS working on my Vivid on Straighttalk. My setup is:
MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Proxy: 66.209.11.33
Port: 80
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That is a depreciated APN... You wanna use the 'phone' or 'pta'...
You'll have data drops and places where MMS won't send with that
Sent from my Vivid 4G using Tapatalk

To clarify, those are the settings I use in Handcent. The screenshots are of my data APN.
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rassawyer said:
To clarify, those are the settings I use in Handcent. The screenshots are of my data APN.
Sent from my Vivid 4G using xda app-developers app
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FWIW these are the settings currently supplied with the AT&T 4G enabled SIMs that Straight Talk has just begun selling. Work fine on a S4 Google edition.

Can unlocked att htc vivid give 4g speeds on simple mobile network?

Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...

jawad512 said:
Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...
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No sorry as they are a MVNO of t-mobile they use t-mobile bands which is why your only getting edge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Mobile Get straight talk. You can get 4G on your vivid with them.

Simple Mobile is a MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) that uses Tmobile's network. Different frequencies for 3G/4G. You can use H2O or Straight Talk.

poncespr said:
Simple Mobile is a MVNO (mobile virtual network operator) that uses Tmobile's network. Different frequencies for 3G/4G. You can use H2O or Straight Talk.
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Nice lol

lmftmf said:
Nice lol
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Sorry. Guess you type faster than me

But vivid supports the frequeny 2100 utms.... Come on guys....tell me something good

jawad512 said:
But vivid supports the frequeny 2100 utms.... Come on guys....tell me something good
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sorry what these guys are saying is correct ...i know for a fact that st8 talk has 4g and its pretty damn good for what it is...
mv networks are highly throttled and you wont get umts service from them cuz thats tmobiles "4g"

randong said:
sorry what these guys are saying is correct ...i know for a fact that st8 talk has 4g and its pretty damn good for what it is...
mv networks are highly throttled and you wont get umts service from them cuz thats tmobiles "4g"
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I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO

So you guys r saying that this problem has nothing to do with s-on s-off?

jawad512 said:
So you guys r saying that this problem has nothing to do with s-on s-off?
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Not at all lol its the modem that's in the device. Think of you trying to speak English to a completely Japanese speaking person. Same concept you cant fix that with any type of software.

lmftmf said:
I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO
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I think you are right. I don't thing ST throttles their data. I am on Straight Talk here in Puerto Rico and I get 7mb down/1mb up. And this is on the pseudo 4G, not LTE. LTE is available in Puerto Rico but in the major cities, not where I live. They have, however, stopped my internet service once, after I did a few downloads and some streaming from pandora on a single day. I know I did not go over 2GB total (3G Watchdog), but I did go over 400MB on a single day. Had to call c/s and listen to a speech about how my data was unlimited but actually not, for about 20 mins to get service back. After that I have kept it under 100MB per day and no problems.

lmftmf said:
I beg to differ about the throttiling part. I use straight talk in an old phone for usb tethering and get about a good 900 kB to 1MB on straight talk.
Edit: I was mistaken i met gophone but i think thats still considered and MVNO
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i dont know how old that phone is but my brother in law has a vivid with st8talk and he in fact gets 4g on it..the go phones sims are made for cheap old phones that are 2g i think..at least thats the way it is here in dallas you cant find a "smartphone" with the go phone line up.. there always the cheapest phones but you can make it work in a smartphone but you will be stuck on the 2g network...str8talk on the other hand has smartphones in their line up...but they are both mvno networks cause thats what you have to put in the apn but att knows what network your using and their not going to let you get the best of them lol with their go phone plan.. str8talk has to "buy" their usage and they offer a better throttle if any

randong said:
i dont know how old that phone is but my brother in law has a vivid with st8talk and he in fact gets 4g on it..the go phones sims are made for cheap old phones that are 2g i think..at least thats the way it is here in dallas you cant find a "smartphone" with the go phone line up.. there always the cheapest phones but you can make it work in a smartphone but you will be stuck on the 2g network...str8talk on the other hand has smartphones in their line up...but they are both mvno networks cause thats what you have to put in the apn but att knows what network your using and their not going to let you get the best of them lol with their go phone plan.. str8talk has to "buy" their usage and they offer a better throttle if any
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You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.

lmftmf said:
You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.
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and thats on go phone?

Yea, its a rip they only give you 500 MB of data for 25$ which on post paid I believe you get 3 GB for the same price. You just have to use the WAP apn and not the PTA apn
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"Dummy" the system?
lmftmf said:
You have to "dummy" the system to use the vivid but it works you get 4g just no LTE and theres no throttle. I get the same speeds as my post paid account.
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How do you "dummy" the system to use the vivid on simple mobile 4g speeds. Here's my dilemma, I have tested the 2 StraightTalk sims, AT&T & T-Mobile on the Vivid and the 4g was way faster on T-mobile sim vs At&t sim. The ST AT&T sim didn't get over 1 mb per second in speed test, whereas the ST TMO sim was much faster almost 2 mb, but a T-mobile phone on either ST TMO or Simple Mobile was faster speeds 5mb or better, so I got rid of the phone and got a HTC sensation. But of course this is a downgrade, I'm definitely going to have to get a better phone soon. I like the AT&T phones better than TMO, but want to get 4g speeds on a AT&T phone using ST TMO sim. So I was curious as if "dummy" the system or different apn settings will allow a AT&T phone pickup ST TMO 4g speeds.

kitathomas said:
How do you "dummy" the system to use the vivid on simple mobile 4g speeds. Here's my dilemma, I have tested the 2 StraightTalk sims, AT&T & T-Mobile on the Vivid and the 4g was way faster on T-mobile sim vs At&t sim. The ST AT&T sim didn't get over 1 mb per second in speed test, whereas the ST TMO sim was much faster almost 2 mb, but a T-mobile phone on either ST TMO or Simple Mobile was faster speeds 5mb or better, so I got rid of the phone and got a HTC sensation. But of course this is a downgrade, I'm definitely going to have to get a better phone soon. I like the AT&T phones better than TMO, but want to get 4g speeds on a AT&T phone using ST TMO sim. So I was curious as if "dummy" the system or different apn settings will allow a AT&T phone pickup ST TMO 4g speeds.
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He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
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mg2195 said:
He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
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i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.

Straight Talk sim
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.
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I think for now, I will just have to stick with T-mobile phone with T-Mobile sim on straight talk, getting some 4g speeds for just $45, only people beating that deal is Metro, and they still have spotty areas. I just think that AT&T has better phones. But I thought about this the other day, with if the fact that the Vivid is a LTE phone vs just regular HSPA+ like my Htc Sensation. Is it possible that the Vivid, HSPA+ doesn't get as fast as speeds on T-Mobile HSPA+ network? I don't know but from what a lot of people are saying the Straight talk At&t 4g coverage is terrible.

mg2195 said:
He was referring to Att go phone plan...
For the most part it isn't APN settings that decide what you connect to (although for late you do need a PTA APN...) its mainly hardware/very deep software that controls it...it all depends on the frequencies of service the phone can except and what the service provider (t-mo...etc) broadcast their service in...
I was always under the impression that it was strictly determined by hardware what the phone accepts...but a few months ago I read a thread here where I guy explained that it is controlled by very deep software and with the right knowledge you can change it to your needs...he claims to have done it on many phones...but it takes a ton of work and he only did it for devices he owned as he didn't feel it was worth it to do it for devices he did not own...and teaching someone was out of the question as it was too complex to teach...
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
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XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
i believe that you can reprogram the modem. like on the skyrocket they can get 4g on tmobile because someone reprogramed thier modem. and there was some talk of trying to do this on the vivid somewhere on these forums lol.
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Is it at least possible to simply get internet on it? No 4G or LTE, just mobile data?
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jawad512 said:
Mine doesn't...it only gives me E....edge... No 3g or 4g...
Pleas help...I have checked all apn settings but no avail...
Please help...
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In case you still need help, here is what I suggest:
For the unlock, use unlockusa.com to get your code. They're the fastest and most reliable on the market.
For the internet, use the following settings for your APN (Credits: http://htcsource.com/2012/08/how-to-sim-unlock-the-htc-vivid-and-add-t-mobiles-access-point/) :
Name: T-Mobile.com
APN: fast.t-mobile.com
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: Not Set
Password: Not Set
Server: wap.voicestream.com
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
MMS proxy: 261.155.165.50
MMS port: Not Set
MMS protocol: WAP 2.0
MCC:310
MNC: 260
Authentication type; Not Set
APN type: default
APN enable/disable: Checked
Bearer:Unspecified
Enjoy your cool phone !
I hope that helps. It worked for me, as I was having the same issue.

Google Edition Does Not Show LTE ON AT&T

I have the Google Edition and am on ST ( AT&T ) , I previously owned an HTC ONE X+ and had no problems getting LTE/4G but with the Google Edition I only get HSPA+. Is there a way to get LTE/4G on this device? Would it be possible to simply flash the radio's or an entire Rom for AT&T version.....or is it simply a "hardware" issue? Please advise....Thanks!!

I get LTE (displayed in the toolbar) on my GPe One on AT&T. Check Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names, and make sure "ATT Phone" is selected and not "ATT WAP". Aside from that, I can't help!
FWIW, I used the official GPe RUU to turn my AT&T One into a GPe One, and have had no issues with LTE.

In addition to what was posted above, do the following.
Go do Phone>*#*#4636#*#*>Phone Information and set the preferred network type to "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto". That's what it should be. But now that I think about it, the the GPE didn't have that setting available to me. I had to pick something close. I think it said "LTE/GSM auto (PRL)". I don't think it is the correct setting for a phone on AT&T, but it worked since the GPE didn't have the correct option for me.

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I get LTE (displayed in the toolbar) on my GPe One on AT&T. Check Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names, and make sure "ATT Phone" is selected and not "ATT WAP". Aside from that, I can't help!
FWIW, I used the official GPe RUU to turn my AT&T One into a GPe One, and have had no issues with LTE.
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I'm on Straight Talk ( att compatible sim ) so I have to use their APN settings....however theirs has that WAP thing on it, should I remove it?

EsJayEs said:
In addition to what was posted above, do the following.
Go do Phone>*#*#4636#*#*>Phone Information and set the preferred network type to "GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto". That's what it should be. But now that I think about it, the the GPE didn't have that setting available to me. I had to pick something close. I think it said "LTE/GSM auto (PRL)". I don't think it is the correct setting for a phone on AT&T, but it worked since the GPE didn't have the correct option for me.
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I checked that earlier and its on what its supposed to be on "LTE/GSM" . I even tried LTE only and got no signal at all.....Thats why I thought it might be the radio...because in my "About Phone" and Network Type setting it says HSPAA and HSPA+.

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I'm on Straight Talk ( att compatible sim ) so I have to use their APN settings....however theirs has that WAP thing on it, should I remove it?
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Sounds like it's your APN settings (assuming ST has your SIM provisioned for LTE). Create a new APN, try these settings, and report back.
NAME: straight talk
APN: tfdata
PORT: 80
MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
MMS PROXY: mms3.tracfone.com
MMS PORT: 80

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Sounds like it's your APN settings (assuming ST has your SIM provisioned for LTE). Create a new APN, try these settings, and report back.
NAME: straight talk
APN: tfdata
PORT: 80
MMSC: http://mms-tf.net
MMS PROXY: mms3.tracfone.com
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I tried the settings and there was no change, even speedtests were similar. I believe my problem is the version of the One that I have. I believe it does not support LTE (band 4) ....I need to know if it is possible to flash a RUU or Baseband and get the Band 4 of LTE working on this device....I believe it would be the 801n version that I need....Thanks for your help.

no one has come up a way yet to enable any additional bands on HTC One..

SaHiLzZ said:
no one has come up a way yet to enable any additional bands on HTC One..
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Has anyone been trying or is it just not that big of a deal to everyone? I know its been done on other devices....I've read something about changing the "build-prop" I think...I believe it would be a big deal especially the LTE ( band 4 ) that seems to be the main one....I believe its only the "unlocked" versions and I also believe its that way because LTE ( band 4 ) is AT&T's main LTE band and they don't brand unlocked phones so I think its HTC's way of sticking it to them...who knows...lol

You can check the 1700MHz Tmobile thread in general. Lots of effort were done in it.

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You can check the 1700MHz Tmobile thread in general. Lots of effort were done in it.
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Well damn, looks like I'm going to have to sell this baby then....Not worth having in my area if no LTE. Thanks for your input.

devo3d said:
Well damn, looks like I'm going to have to sell this baby then....Not worth having in my area if no LTE. Thanks for your input.
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Hi, I read somewhere that straight talk doesn't support LTE, so check whether you actually have it in your plan.
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n1234d said:
Hi, I read somewhere that straight talk doesn't support LTE, so check whether you actually have it in your plan.
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It does, I had it on my HOX+. I wish I would have kept that one....But I believe in order to have it you have to have one of their new lte sim cards.

It has to be something simple that's being overlooked. Have you called ST? If they don't have your SIM provisioned for LTE, that would stop you.

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It has to be something simple that's being overlooked. Have you called ST? If they don't have your SIM provisioned for LTE, that would stop you.
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Yes, I've talked to ST. The problem is that this model does not have the LTE (band 4) radio....it has LTE (band 7).....I've been trying to find out if anyone has found a way to flash that frequency. No luck so far.

Here is a link to a thread where someone has posted a lot of radio dumps from different phone carriers for our device. I have not helped in anyway with what he has done there all credits go to him for his efforts. hopefully it helps you in some way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342544

biglo said:
Here is a link to a thread where someone has posted a lot of radio dumps from different phone carriers for our device. I have not helped in anyway with what he has done there all credits go to him for his efforts. hopefully it helps you in some way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2342544
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Thanks...but I have that page bookmarked...lol. I tried flashing the AT&T radio and it didn't work. I've read somewhere that it has something to do with writing or re-writing of the Buildprop.....I have no idea what that is but apparently it has to do with the radio frequencies. Anyway, thanks for your response to my thread. Let me know if you hear anything...

ATT compatible ST sim would use band 7 for ATT.
TMO compatible ST sim would use Band 4.
Only a few cities in the US for ATT use band 4 LTE..
From what you state it sounds to me like you have a TMO ST sim not an ATT ST Sim.

IAmSixNine said:
ATT compatible ST sim would use band 7 for ATT.
TMO compatible ST sim would use Band 4.
Only a few cities in the US for ATT use band 4 LTE..
From what you state it sounds to me like you have a TMO ST sim not an ATT ST Sim.
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Nope, I definitely have an AT&T compatible sim. I bought it straight from ST for my first phone, the HOX+. (At&t branded).
This is just so damn confusing. I can't understan the manufacturers, whats the problem with equipping each device to accept all the available bands...Simple...

Namely the cost. Qulcomm dings the OEM for every band they license. Then there's the cost of power amplifiers and associated hardware for each band.
I have two friends with ATT branded ones that I converted to GPE and they are running Net 10 (same as straight talk but without the walmart branding) and both have no problem with LTE. tfdata is the APN they are using.
On your sim card should be some numbers. does it start with 89014 ?
you're positive that you were getting LTE on your H0x? if it was running the stock ATT rom they show "4G" for HSPA+.
When did you last change your sim card? I know with Net10 if you had activated your sim before they started offering LTE you have to change to a new sim to get LTE. Net10 sims are dirt cheap (about 50 cents) so wouldn't hurt.
I would recommend switching from straight talk to net 10.
Same service, same company but with one core difference. ST is walmart's brand so as such they are the exclusve seller. Net10 refills can be bought on the open market, as can the sim cards.
And BTW, the One does support LTE on band 4. It's labled AWS on the spec sheet. Alaska wireless uses 2100mhz (band 4) and my One connects to their LTE no problem. The T-MO folks are whiny about not having 1700mhz HSPA+ support, which has nothing to do with LTE.
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Nope, I definitely have an AT&T compatible sim. I bought it straight from ST for my first phone, the HOX+. (At&t branded).
This is just so damn confusing. I can't understan the manufacturers, whats the problem with equipping each device to accept all the available bands...Simple...
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[Q] LTE support in Dev Edition and T-Mobile version

My girlfriend and I picked up two Moto-Xs during the sale. I'm using Dev edition on Straight Talk AT&T. She's using the T-Mobile version on T-Mobile. Neither of us is getting LTE. I've been trying the Moto vs the Nexus-5 side by side thinking I'd sell one. The Nexus-5 picks up LTE just fine where the Moto is on HSPA+. I called Straight Talk and they weren't helpful. After reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569939 I expect that AT&T isn't recognizing the Dev edition as an LTE capable device. It's too bad because I really like the design of the Moto-X. Sure big screen on the Nexus-5 is an advantage, but the design, active notifications, and touchless controls on the Moto-X are very nice. I called Motorola and they will RMA the device for a refund.
When my girlfriend activated her Moto-X at T-Mobile the rep told her that she would not get high speed data (LTE) because she didn't buy the device from T-Mobile. Could this really be true? We don't have LTE at home, but she works in an area with LTE coverage. SHe said that she hasn't seen an LTE indicator on the phone.
The Moto-X is a very nice device. It's too bad that Motorola doesn't have clean carrier support for the T-Mobile/Dev Editions. The Nexus-5 works fine, and given that it covers many more LTE bands I'm confident it can be used on LTE networks going forward.

It's impossible to buy the device from Tmobile so that associate was full of it. Perhaps she hadn't noticed the lte icon, it's very small.
I don't quite know what to make of those signal numbers, but according to sensorly I reside in a fairly weak LTE area so these pics might be a guide, FWIW.
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Thanks for posting that screenshot. I suspect that she just hasn't noticed the indicator. I will check her phone when we are in an area with LTE coverage. I'm sure I'm not picking up LTE because I tested the download speed and checked the signal status. I am disappointed that Dev edition doesn't play nice with AT&T LTE.

In getting LTE on the T-Mobile XT1053 with at&t.
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seattleboi1982 said:
In getting LTE on the T-Mobile XT1053 with at&t.
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OK then, I wonder what's going on with me and the other guy having issues.

xpersimmon said:
OK then, I wonder what's going on with me and the other guy having issues.
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This might be of assistance to you, or may not. Its worth a shot though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569939

I had the same issue and was frustrated. I can tell you, the post mentioned right above is true. I called ATT and Motorola neither could help me. The xda member untyped was the one who told me the issue was the way the phone is being registered to the network. ATT only seen the Moto X as a gsm device, due in part probably to the way Motorola has it listed internally or something, God knows. But he gave me an ATT Moto X imei and was able to register the device as lte. If it wasn't for that I would still be hspa+. Not sure if it's ATT with the corporate bs or Motorola not doing it right but that seems to be the issue.
Rocking the new Moto X
Woop Woop

mojoffdawal said:
It's impossible to buy the device from Tmobile...
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T-mobile sells the Moto X on their Web site and in their stores. However, it's $100 more expensive from T-Mo, apparently due to Google subsidizing purchases directly from the Play Store.

Are we talking moto x or nexus 5? I guess something might have changed overnight.
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scottjb said:
T-mobile sells the Moto X on their Web site and in their stores. However, it's $100 more expensive from T-Mo, apparently due to Google subsidizing purchases directly from the Play Store.
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Since when? I was just on the T Mobile site and they do not sell the Moto X.
Edit; I am on T Mobile and get LTE all the time, T Mobile sales associates don't know what they are talking about and they are usually wrong!
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No issues with LTE on my GFs xt1053 with Straight Talk. I had trouble getting LTE working my Dev Edition with AT&T, but after switching the Network Mode to LTE with Gravity Box it has worked great.
Do you have one of the new ST LTE sim cards? They only started selling them a few months ago. If you do, are you in one of the rare areas where AT&T uses Band 5? The xt1053 does not support LTE on 850mhz.

Problem Solved
After reading that others are getting LTE on AT&T with the TMo and Dev Ed versions I rechecked my settings and somehow Settings->Wireless& Networks>More->Mobile Networks>Network Mode was unset. There is a radio button with two options: Automatic, and 2G. Neither setting was selected. I selected Automatic and voila, LTE now works. Just for kicks I reset the phone to see what happens. When I check the setting Automatic is selected, but if I hit cancel, it deselects and then nothing is selected. This appears to be a software bug.
If you're having issues getting LTE check your NETWORK MODE settings and make sure it's set to Automatic.
Settings->Wireless& Networks>More->Mobile Networks>Network Mode: AUTOMATIC

Sorry all, I was mistaken. I was thinking Nexus 5. Moto X is clearly not available directly from T-mobile.

xpersimmon said:
After reading that others are getting LTE on AT&T with the TMo and Dev Ed versions I rechecked my settings and somehow Settings->Wireless& Networks>More->Mobile Networks>Network Mode was unset. There is a radio button with two options: Automatic, and 2G. Neither setting was selected. I selected Automatic and voila, LTE now works. Just for kicks I reset the phone to see what happens. When I check the setting Automatic is selected, but if I hit cancel, it deselects and then nothing is selected. This appears to be a software bug.
If you're having issues getting LTE check your NETWORK MODE settings and make sure it's set to Automatic.
Settings->Wireless& Networks>More->Mobile Networks>Network Mode: AUTOMATIC
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This would explain why I was able to get it working on my Dev Edition with Gravity Box, as it changes this same setting with the additional option of 3g only and 3g/LTE.

AT&T on T-mobile S5

Hi, I got a T-mobile S5, and unlocked it. My 3G works but LTE won't register, I am 100% sure that the APN is correct.
Any ideas what I am doing wrong?

-You need an att modem file flashed on your device, but im not 100% sure. Ihave my stock rom files from kies and amoung them is my csc file. Keep reading. Get to know your phone.-
Someone please confirm this is the right route and I will share my csc file with you
Start by rooting your phone and getting a custom recovery (Philz). Check the tmobil section of s5 ...
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EDIT: Thanks all for you input and pointing out the right solution. Always appreciate the fast responses.

Commodore 64 said:
You need an att modem file flashed on your device, but im not 100% sure. Ihave my stock rom files from kies and amoung them is my csc file. Keep reading. Get to know your phone.
Someone please confirm this is the right route and I will share my csc file with you
Start by rooting your phone and getting a custom recovery (Philz). Check the tmobil section of s5 ...
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He does not need an AT&T modem flashed on his device. That would most likely result in a brick.
OP: Try dialing *#2263# and make sure automatic is selected. Also go into setting, mobile networks and set it to LTE/GSM/WCDMA

MattMJB0188 said:
He does not need an AT&T modem flashed on his device. That would most likely result in a brick.
OP: Try dialing *#2263# and make sure automatic is selected. Also go into setting, mobile networks and set it to LTE/GSM/WCDMA
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I tried to do LTE only and it has the right network code, but it won't activate. I checked my ATT online profile and it doesn't have a "LTE" data plan and I think that is the problem. I'll try again tomorrow once it takes effect and report back

kamidake said:
I tried to do LTE only and it has the right network code, but it won't activate. I checked my ATT online profile and it doesn't have a "LTE" data plan and I think that is the problem. I'll try again tomorrow once it takes effect and report back
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Ok you need to give ATT the IMEI number from one of their LTE android devices. Just go to the store to get one from one of the demo devices. Then your account will be provisioned for LTE.

kamidake said:
I tried to do LTE only and it has the right network code, but it won't activate. I checked my ATT online profile and it doesn't have a "LTE" data plan and I think that is the problem. I'll try again tomorrow once it takes effect and report back
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The guy above is correct, you need at&t to register your imei into their network to access their LTE.... They should do it for you no problem, just give them a call....however I wouldn't be surprised if they don't! Another way is to find someone with an extra LTE phone and just activate that imei and your LTE should pop up
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Simer03 said:
The guy above is correct, you need at&t to register your imei into their network to access their LTE.... They should do it for you no problem, just give them a call....however I wouldn't be surprised if they don't! Another way is to find someone with an extra LTE phone and just activate that imei and your LTE should pop up
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If he registers his T-Mobile S5 on AT&T he will still have problems. AT&T won't recognize the T-Mobile IMEI number, and therefore it will list as a GSM device.
He needs to find an IMEI number of one of AT&T's LTE android devices. Once he has called AT&T CS and have had them provision his account for LTE, then he can just pop in his AT&T sim card to his T-Mobile S5. He'll get LTE then.

MattMJB0188 said:
If he registers his T-Mobile S5 on AT&T he will still have problems. AT&T won't recognize the T-Mobile IMEI number, and therefore it will list as a GSM device.
He needs to find an IMEI number of one of AT&T's LTE android devices. Once he has called AT&T CS and have had them provision his account for LTE, then he can just pop in his AT&T sim card to his T-Mobile S5. He'll get LTE then.
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What he said.

What are your APN settings? I have T-Mobile S5 on AT&T and have LTE working.

dustintinsley said:
What are your APN settings? I have T-Mobile S5 on AT&T and have LTE working.
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Just wondering where did you unlock the phone from and how long did it take to get the unlock code?

Thanks for everyone's help. I am good to go.
I took a SIM from another LTE device. I think it does need to be registered as a IMEI from an ATT device and that was the problem.

kamidake said:
Thanks for everyone's help. I am good to go.
I took a SIM from another LTE device. I think it does need to be registered as a IMEI from an ATT device and that was the problem.
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Now that you are getting AT&T LTE on the T-Mobile variant, can you please comment on LTE signal strength? This is a deal breaker for me. When I had the TMO Note 3 on AT&T, LTE reception sucked. If you can compare it with an AT&T branded phone, that would be great.

Another person using the G900T. Congrats
My experience is that coverage is just as good if not better. Same radio, same antenna, I wouldn't expect it to be any different?

The TMO GS5 has all the needed ATT LTE Bands no need for a radio flash, I'm using one on ATT now, have gotten LTE from day 1, as stated only requirement is the sim has to be originally activated on a LTE ATT device and that the APN is set properly.

What kind of speed is everyone getting with the tmo s5 on att network? I have an att s5 next to a tmo s5 and att s5 is getting 50mbps vs tmo at 20mbps. I am wondering if I needed to configure something on the tmo devices?

vince2398 said:
What kind of speed is everyone getting with the tmo s5 on att network? I have an att s5 next to a tmo s5 and att s5 is getting 50mbps vs tmo at 20mbps. I am wondering if I needed to configure something on the tmo devices?
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Check your APN setting. The T-Mobile S5 should have the same exact APN settings your S5 has. Can you also comment on LTE reception on the T-Mobile S5 using AT&t?

MattMJB0188 said:
Check your APN setting. The T-Mobile S5 should have the same exact APN settings your S5 has. Can you also comment on LTE reception on the T-Mobile S5 using AT&t?
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APN is exactly the same as AT&T one. Reception is also same as AT&T one but the speed is a show stopper if it's half the speed. Any one have any ideas?

vince2398 said:
APN is exactly the same as AT&T one. Reception is also same as AT&T one but the speed is a show stopper if it's half the speed. Any one have any ideas?
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I wouldn't sweat the speeds, unless you keep noticing it. Try again later. Perhaps the T-Mobile S5 needs a modem update? Keep us posted.

vince2398 said:
APN is exactly the same as AT&T one. Reception is also same as AT&T one but the speed is a show stopper if it's half the speed. Any one have any ideas?
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Have the speeds improved?

MattMJB0188 said:
If he registers his T-Mobile S5 on AT&T he will still have problems. AT&T won't recognize the T-Mobile IMEI number, and therefore it will list as a GSM device.
He needs to find an IMEI number of one of AT&T's LTE android devices. Once he has called AT&T CS and have had them provision his account for LTE, then he can just pop in his AT&T sim card to his T-Mobile S5. He'll get LTE then.
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I would also like to do this, but I just want to clarify something. I just bought an AT&T S5. Brand new, unopened, still in the box. I want to swap it for a T-Mobile S5, as the bootloader is unlocked. If I keep the AT&T SIM card before I sell it, and put it into the new Tmo S5, will I have any foreseeable issues? Will it work just like that, or will I need to retrieve something from my S5 before I swap it?
Thanks.
EDIT: I should clarify that the device is unactivated, and when I do activate it, I will be porting my existing number from Verizon.