Hi there. I am having trouble diverting the Chromecast's hardcoded DNS to Tunlr's DNS.
DD-WRT Router - 192.168.3.1
Main D-Link Router - 192.168.1.1
I read the FAQ and set up a DD-WRT router between my internet modem and my regular router.
I applied the IP tables rules from the forum and connected Chromecast to the DD-WRT's wifi. It worked!
I then turned off the DD-WRT system's wifi, and connected the router to the main D-Link system that runs my entire house.
I connected the chromecast to my main network, and tried to repeat the test. It did not work.
The ip tables command in DD-WRT appears to be ineffective when there is a router behind the DD-WRT system that everyone else is connected to.
Any ideas what could be causeing this and what i could do to fix it? I prefer not to run DD-WRT on my main network as it's kind of flaky on my hardware. I prefer to use it as a pass-through on my internet pipe and provide my wireless using a different router.
aaronk123 said:
The ip tables command in DD-WRT appears to be ineffective when there is a router behind the DD-WRT system that everyone else is connected to.
Any ideas what could be causeing this and what i could do to fix it? I prefer not to run DD-WRT on my main network as it's kind of flaky on my hardware. I prefer to use it as a pass-through on my internet pipe and provide my wireless using a different router.
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Need to know how you have the two routers connected, but most likely it's because the DD-WRT can't "see" your Chromecast's IP address because they're being NAT-ed behind the D-Link router and therefore the iptables rules don't get applied.
Either change the DD-WRT iptables rules to use the D-Link router's WAN-side address instead of the Chromecast's LAN address, or try the static route to bogus gateway method on your main wireless router and take DD-WRT out of the equation.
I was thinking he's double NATing initially. Could still be an issue.
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I was thinking he's double NATing initially. Could still be an issue.
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Yeah. In that case the D-Link router knows 3rd Chromecast's IP but it's all a single IP to the DD-WRT router and that's going to be an address the DD-WRT router is giving to the D-Link router's WAN port.
I have a double NAT setup with different routers.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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Yeah. In that case the D-Link router knows 3rd Chromecast's IP but it's all a single IP to the DD-WRT router and that's going to be an address the DD-WRT router is giving to the D-Link router's WAN port.
I have a double NAT setup with different routers.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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Doubling NATing is always a bad thing. It may not rear it's ugly head all the time, but when it does, it's quite frustrating. You really should only have one device routing traffic to your devices. Sound like you may need to bridge your WRT and DLink and setup traffic rules. I'm not familiar with WRT, so I don't know what's possible or not. Sounds to me your want to split your traffic between two private networks. I use personally use Smoothwall, which turns an old PC into a router, with added NICs. I have my home network split into three different networks independent from each other. So, if there is a breach, only a portion is breached. Entangled is another similar system, but it's done through setting up traffic rules, so I'm thinking you may be able to do so with WRT.
I use somewhat of a Double-NAT at my house. I have the Verizon FiOS router then have a DD-WRT. The FiOS router is plugged into the DD-WRT but then goes straight to a ISA server which does most of the routing.
I use a class-c for the "Edge" which is 192.168.x.x/255.255.255.0 and, a class-a for anything from the gateway to the inside of my network, which is 10.0.0.x/255.0.0.0.
I've never had a problem with DNS or DHCP. But I also have domain controllers and DNS/DHCP servers to handle this as well.
I don't suggest starting an enterprise level network in your house, but try at least to at least use the same ideas I've used here.
A much simpler solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47609732&postcount=103
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Doubling NATing is always a bad thing. It may not rear it's ugly head all the time, but when it does, it's quite frustrating. You really should only have one device routing traffic to your devices. Sound like you may need to bridge your WRT and DLink and setup traffic rules. I'm not familiar with WRT, so I don't know what's possible or not. Sounds to me your want to split your traffic between two private networks. I use personally use Smoothwall, which turns an old PC into a router, with added NICs. I have my home network split into three different networks independent from each other. So, if there is a breach, only a portion is breached. Entangled is another similar system, but it's done through setting up traffic rules, so I'm thinking you may be able to do so with WRT.
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Thanks, yes, I know. My situation is peculiar, but it works.
@aaronk123 should pay heed though.
Unfortunately double NATing is more common nowadays since ISPs like to provide combination modem/router devices nowadays. :\
Regardless, I agree with @zaqh - the DD-WRT router is probably unnecessary and should be avoided, especially if it's flakey.
bhiga said:
Thanks, yes, I know. My situation is peculiar, but it works.
@aaronk123 should pay heed though.
Unfortunately double NATing is more common nowadays since ISPs like to provide combination modem/router devices nowadays. :\
Regardless, I agree with @zaqh - the DD-WRT router is probably unnecessary and should be avoided, especially if it's flakey.
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You can disable the NAT and wifi on the combo router to use your own on a lot of those modems.
bhiga said:
Unfortunately double NATing is more common nowadays since ISPs like to provide combination modem/router devices nowadays. :\
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???
Just disable DHCP on your 2nd router, set 2nd router IP to 192.168.1.2 (not required, as long as both routers don't have the same IP, doesn't even need to be in the same range), plug ethernet cable from 1st router into 2nd routers LAN port, not WAN port.
Done. No double nat, no problems.
-Jamie M.
toysareforboys said:
Just disable DHCP on your 2nd router, set 2nd router IP to 192.168.1.2 (not required, as long as both routers don't have the same IP, doesn't even need to be in the same range), plug ethernet cable from 1st router into 2nd routers LAN port, not WAN port.
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Been there, done that. Problem in this case is that the iptables filtering rules on the DD-WRT side won't apply to the OP's wireless traffic since it'll bypass the DD-WRT entirely, unless wireless clients can be given a gateway other than the router serving wireless.
bhiga said:
Been there, done that. Problem in this case is that the iptables filtering rules on the DD-WRT side won't apply to the OP's wireless traffic since it'll bypass the DD-WRT entirely, unless wireless clients can be given a gateway other than the router serving wireless.
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Ahhh, I didn't understand why he was using the iptables in dd-wrt. Thanks for the info.
-Jamie M.
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Anyone else having trouble using the internet over wifi (wep & wpa) with the actiontec router that comes with Verizon fios? I can ping the G1 and telnet into it. Just can't use the browser. I am able to connect to other WPA encrypted routers and everything works great. This problem existed on rc19 and continues on rc30.
Thanks for any help.
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It worked well with my actiontec, with WPA as well. sounds strange...maybe a router reboot
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Was the first thing i tried.
I don't have one yet (it is coming December 13th HAHA) But can you two compare firmware versions? Maybe you need to update that... or maybe there is a setting that is preventing the phone from getting to the net. It sounds more like a setting on the router than the phone.
I would check DNS settings and make sure all works well... Can other wifi devices connect to the net?
Same here, 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.7.
Have also tried static and dynamic ip's. My daughters DS and computer are connected via wifi. Next I'll try turning UPnP on.
Thanks for everyone's help.
Edit: UPnP is a no go. I don't want to do a factory reset but, looks like I'm headed that way.
have the same problem
what did you end up doing?
tried it
didnt work...
I have fios myself and the wifi portion of the Actiontec router is craptacular. I've had all sorts of compatibility problems with various wifi cards. I have replaced the primary router with a .N aftermarket one and hooked up the Actiontec as a regular client so the TV cable boxes can still get programming updates. Naturally, I turned off the wifi on the actiontec.
So its basically like this:
Actiontec -> D-Link N (or whatever you want) -> Internet
If you go down this route you just have to make sure whatever router you make your primary is not on the same private network. Actiontec uses 192.168.1.X. I've had no problems since switching to a higher end router. Also, you can clone your mac address from the actiontec or call verizon and have them reset your DHCP lease. They know the drill.
I have FIOS with the newer Westell routers and the wifi sucks on them as well. I got a belkin and use it as a wifi expansion. So it uses the same IP as the router but just adds a wifi network. Pretty neat if you ask me.
so i think may have found a solution that may work for you (it worked perfectly for me). what i did was switch my security to WPA2 and left the encryption standard to AES only as a pose to TKIP+AES. I also reset the router before this but im sure you dont have to do that. let me know if this works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10035476&postcount=10
neoobs said:
I have FIOS with the newer Westell routers and the wifi sucks on them as well. I got a belkin and use it as a wifi expansion. So it uses the same IP as the router but just adds a wifi network. Pretty neat if you ask me.
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Could you be kind and give us more details of exactly how you connected and setup the belkin router to improve the wifi? My FiOS wlan also sucks and Verizon tech support is useless.
Thank you.
Oops! Just realized this is a very old thread......
Hi this is my first time on a site and I just wonder if anybody can solve my problem!
I,ve read a few posts and set my xda llI so that in connections my network card connects to work!Also have done all the rest and set it to internet just in case as well
My Isp in connections window is on the advanced tab and select networks on the network Management is set to My Isp.
my Wirles Lan Manager is status connected to network
My ssid is the one that all the house computors are set to,my mode is Infratructure and Tx is Auto.My channel is 6
my bssid is 00-18-2D etc etc.
My Mac is 00-09- etc ,etc.
My IP.169.254.168.73
signal quality is good
I,ve been onto the 192.168.0.1 website and added the mac address of the xda lli but when I try to get the internet on the xdalli to connect it justs says default page. I cannot seem to connect. is this normal or do I have to go through O2 to pay for another internet connection besides my home address one.Have I missed something out!Help would be greatly appreciated! thanks
Nilocsss
Hi,
Your IP of 169.x.x.x means that you are trying to use DHCP to get an ip address but haven't been supplied one by your router..
The ip addres of your router is 192.168.0.1, so it may be sensible to setup your router to allow a dynamic address range of 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.110 (say) - when anyone tries to connect using a dynamic address (using dhcp), they'll be given an address in this range.
So, initially check if DHCP is enabled.
Do you have a laptop that connects using a dynamic ip address (ie not static - ie not implicitly defined) - if so then DHCP _is_ already working and there's another problem.
If this is the case, I'd initially disable any kind of mac-filtering or security until you get a simple connection going..
Sorry, if this isn't too clear - I'm tired - what router are you using?
Kev
First hand it can depend on your router
I have had problems connecting with Virgin broadband routers for instance.
Have you tried connecting elsewhere?
Also what type of security do you have on your router?
One more thing to try
Check under the "Network Cards" settings when disconnected and select "the internet" from the drop down menu.
Hope this helps
clearing the way so that I understand correctly!
kevcal said:
Hi,
Your IP of 169.x.x.x means that you are trying to use DHCP to get an ip address but haven't been supplied one by your router..
The ip addres of your router is 192.168.0.1, so it may be sensible to setup your router to allow a dynamic address range of 192.168.0.100 to 192.168.0.110 (say) - when anyone tries to connect using a dynamic address (using dhcp), they'll be given an address in this range.
So, initially check if DHCP is enabled.
Do you have a laptop that connects using a dynamic ip address (ie not static - ie not implicitly defined) - if so then DHCP _is_ already working and there's another problem.
If this is the case, I'd initially disable any kind of mac-filtering or security until you get a simple connection going..
Sorry, if this isn't too clear - I'm tired - what router are you using?
Kev
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Thanks Kev!
My router is a netgear dg834GT.I,ve looked at the range and the range for 192.168.0.1 actually goes from 192.168.0.2 upto 192.168.0.254 so the range should be there. how would I know if the router is DHCP, is there a way of seeing this? The filter would be set up where for the mac address?Is there a way of changing the isp on the phone so that its range is within the 192.168.0.1 range?the only security that I have is the routers own and the avg antivirus.would disabling the avg help!
thanks for your response!
voxshots said:
First hand it can depend on your router
I have had problems connecting with Virgin broadband routers for instance.
Have you tried connecting elsewhere?
Also what type of security do you have on your router?
One more thing to try
Check under the "Network Cards" settings when disconnected and select "the internet" from the drop down menu.
Hope this helps
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thanks for replying ,my router is a netgear and the security is a wep key which I have disabled and i also tried the drop down menu "the internet" but still nothing! how would I find out on the phone what ethernet card it is running so that I can connect to that .
nilocsss said:
Thanks Kev!
My router is a netgear dg834GT.I,ve looked at the range and the range for 192.168.0.1 actually goes from 192.168.0.2 upto 192.168.0.254 so the range should be there. how would I know if the router is DHCP, is there a way of seeing this? The filter would be set up where for the mac address?Is there a way of changing the isp on the phone so that its range is within the 192.168.0.1 range?the only security that I have is the routers own and the avg antivirus.would disabling the avg help!
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If you haven't set up mac filtering, then it won't be a problem.. if you have, then there should be an option to disable/remove any you've input - build security up from a working setup.
Have you (can you borrow) a laptop that you can setup wireless with a dynamic ip address and check that connects; if that's okay then the router is setup correctly.
So I the Alpine comes up with "connected to network" but the ip address is 169.x.x.x ..
This means that the Alpine has not been allocated a usable ip-address by the router for some reason and you'll get nowhere until this happens.
Your other PCs.. are they set to dynamic ip addresses - I guess so as you have no room for static addresses. You should probably check they're all dynamic as if (say) you've allocated a static ip address of 192.168.0.2 to one of them and then DHCP tries auto-allocating addresses, I guess there could be a conflict (don't know how clever dhcp is). Usually I would set the DHCP range to 192.168.0.100 -> 192.168.0.200 (allowing 100 different dynamic addresses).
Have you checked that authentication is set top 'Open' and Data Encryption 'Disabled' on the Alpine; and ensure you've disabled (temporarily) all router security..?
Kev
kevcal said:
If you haven't set up mac filtering, then it won't be a problem.. if you have, then there should be an option to disable/remove any you've input - build security up from a working setup.
Have you (can you borrow) a laptop that you can setup wireless with a dynamic ip address and check that connects; if that's okay then the router is setup correctly.
So I the Alpine comes up with "connected to network" but the ip address is 169.x.x.x ..
This means that the Alpine has not been allocated a usable ip-address by the router for some reason and you'll get nowhere until this happens.
Your other PCs.. are they set to dynamic ip addresses - I guess so as you have no room for static addresses. You should probably check they're all dynamic as if (say) you've allocated a static ip address of 192.168.0.2 to one of them and then DHCP tries auto-allocating addresses, I guess there could be a conflict (don't know how clever dhcp is). Usually I would set the DHCP range to 192.168.0.100 -> 192.168.0.200 (allowing 100 different dynamic addresses).
Have you checked that authentication is set top 'Open' and Data Encryption 'Disabled' on the Alpine; and ensure you've disabled (temporarily) all router security..?
Kev
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Thanks kev for replying.
I have a hard wired lead to the router for one computor and 3 laptops connected by wifi and another computor connected by wifi.
the range or should I say the ip addresses are 192.168.0.3,192.168.0.4
upto 192.168.07.I,m at work at the moment but as soon as I get home tonight I'll set the wep key to disabled is there any other thing on the router that I need to do?
Can't think of anything else...
But at least you know DHCP is working if the other PCs are getting ip addresses okay.
And you know the wireless is working...
So it does look likely that it will be something to do with WEP/WPA encryption... (I guess you've got it setup at home), hence why the router isn't allocating you an ip-address.
If you can't get it going, it may be worthwhile doing some sceenshots of the router configuration pages (or config files)...
What I can tell you is that what you are doing looks correct and you have everything setup so you can go on the internet whilst at home using the Alpine. Mine uses the router whilst at home and GPRS whilst out.
nilocsss said:
Thanks Kev!
My router is a netgear dg834GT.I,ve looked at the range and the range for 192.168.0.1 actually goes from 192.168.0.2 upto 192.168.0.254 so the range should be there. how would I know if the router is DHCP, is there a way of seeing this? The filter would be set up where for the mac address?Is there a way of changing the isp on the phone so that its range is within the 192.168.0.1 range?the only security that I have is the routers own and the avg antivirus.would disabling the avg help!
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The dg834GT is pretty much the one that Virgin use, like I said in my earlier post.
I have found these particular routers to be a problem (sometimes) with my Alpine.
You should try to update the firmware.
kevcal said:
Can't think of anything else...
But at least you know DHCP is working if the other PCs are getting ip addresses okay.
And you know the wireless is working...
So it does look likely that it will be something to do with WEP/WPA encryption... (I guess you've got it setup at home), hence why the router isn't allocating you an ip-address.
If you can't get it going, it may be worthwhile doing some sceenshots of the router configuration pages (or config files)...
What I can tell you is that what you are doing looks correct and you have everything setup so you can go on the internet whilst at home using the Alpine. Mine uses the router whilst at home and GPRS whilst out.
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Well Done Kev!
It was the "open"on the phone and putting "open" on the router.I had to intiallely disable the wep key.then when I got connected,I reactivated the WEP key and I could not connect.So on the phone I unticked the automatically connect to my name of my router name and reput in my encryption key again and I was in and On line.Thanks to both of you(Kevcal and Voxshots) for helping me.Definately could not have done it without you Pair.I like the idea of using the screenshots so I,ll post a screenshot of all the settings on the phone and computor so that anybody else will be able to resolve there problems with all credits going to you people on the bottom!
Very happy to have helped and glad you sorted it out
Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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mydrl said:
Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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How?
try changing the wifi channel the router uses
mydrl said:
Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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How did you fix this?
MadBob said:
try changing the wifi channel the router uses
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Good advice.
Remember that the WiFi bands (channels) are not exactly the same between countries. So if you're in a non-US country and your router happens to choose a channel that is not available in the US, Chromecast may not detect your wireless AP.
But Telus is Canadian, and Canada has the same WiFi channels as the U.S. (Canada and the U.S. necessarily share identical radio spectrum allocation).
DJames1 said:
But Telus is Canadian, and Canada has the same WiFi channels as the U.S. (Canada and the U.S. necessarily share identical radio spectrum allocation).
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Didn't know that. Thanks! Still applies to other countries though. I think Channel 13 is one of the channels that applies to Europe but not US. I should put it in the FAQ...
EDIT: Seems there's far less exclusion than I thought... but added a note in the FAQ just in case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
So I can get through the setup phase up until the Chromecast tries to connect to my wifi network. I get a message saying it couldn't connect, and when I click the link in the message it brings me to a page that mentions AP filtering, UPNP enabling and .NET 3.5. I checked and UPNP is enabled, and I can't find an option for AP filtering (I have the Actiontech V1000h). I am using a Macbook pro.
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So I can get through the setup phase up until the Chromecast tries to connect to my wifi network. I get a message saying it couldn't connect, and when I click the link in the message it brings me to a page that mentions AP filtering, UPNP enabling and .NET 3.5. I checked and UPNP is enabled, and I can't find an option for AP filtering (I have the Actiontech V1000h). I am using a Macbook pro.
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In some cases you have to go through a couple of times. I just reset my Chromecast to test a few things and had to go through the setup twice before it connected to my WiFi.
Chromecast in Canada, on Telus
A friend lent me his chromecast. He uses an iphone and Shaw cable. I use a Nexus 4, and have Telus as my internet provider.
It was a bear trying to get chromecast to work. Tried 5 separate days. Got it to work and i could watch netflix/youtube on it about 3 times and played with it for a couple of hours each. That's the success.
The fail is that I had to trouble shoot more then 4+ hours to get it to work those 3 times. Reboot the chromecast. Reboot the router. Reboot my Nexus 4. Try my wife's Nexus 4. Try the Nexus 7 tablet. It was a horrible experience. I got the AP recommendation like the earlier post in this thread. I tried that. Tried calling telus and signed into my router to check that those settings were correct. As far as I understand it's a gateway 11n wireless router.
So my conclusion is change my internet provider to Shaw unless someone has a smart solution to this problem. The router says it's a 50ghz signal? So it isn't the 2.4vs 5.0 ghz signal problem that I've googled and read about.
Please provide some brains to my situation. I've used all of mine up.
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In some cases you have to go through a couple of times. I just reset my Chromecast to test a few things and had to go through the setup twice before it connected to my WiFi.
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Still not fixed.
So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.
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So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.
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TVs are great at blocking/scrambling radio signals.
Use the included HDMI extender. If that doesn't help (enough), get an HDMI extension and move Chromecast away from the TV. One of mine is on a 10-foot HDMI extension. The other is connected upstream of a another device that connects to my TV, so both of my Chromecasts are at least a foot away from its associated TV.
johnson2423 said:
So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.
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It could be a few things not related to the router directly but related in how the Router connects to your ISP.
So a couple of questions...
What kind of service is your ISP? (DSL, CABLE, OTHER)
What Public IP does your router report? (Usually found on the status page that shows connection data) If it starts off 192.168 then your Modem is doing a double nat translation and you need to call your ISP and tell them you want the Modem to be put into gateway mode and just pass a public IP to your router.
Does the CCast actually connect to the Router but not work or will it not connect at all period? If it doesn't connect at all it is possible you need to change the Security method used to WPA or WEP. To test shut off security alltogether and try to connect the CCast. If there is currently NO security try putting WPA on and trying again (but it should work on an open AP)
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Asphyx said:
It could be a few things not related to the router directly but related in how the Router connects to your ISP.
So a couple of questions...
What kind of service is your ISP? (DSL, CABLE, OTHER)
What Public IP does your router report? (Usually found on the status page that shows connection data) If it starts off 192.168 then your Modem is doing a double nat translation and you need to call your ISP and tell them you want the Modem to be put into gateway mode and just pass a public IP to your router.
Does the CCast actually connect to the Router but not work or will it not connect at all period? If it doesn't connect at all it is possible you need to change the Security method used to WPA or WEP. To test shut off security alltogether and try to connect the CCast. If there is currently NO security try putting WPA on and trying again (but it should work on an open AP)
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Service is Telus DSL.
Solution: I changed the security settings. It still tries to stop the CCast from talking to my phone once in a while, but I just log into my router and log into the firewall settings. The firewall settings are "high, medium, low, NAT". It started working once I started turning it off of NAT and onto Medium or High.
I don't know why this is the solution, but it is a solution. I suspect that either Telus will fix the prolbem for everyone else or this thread will become popular. Now CCast is coming to Canada. So either Telus fixes it or there'll be a lot of searching leading to this post.
As a reminder, a friend of mine on telus never toughed his firewall settings and never had a problem with using his CCast. Go figure.
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Service is Telus DSL.
Solution: I changed the security settings. It still tries to stop the CCast from talking to my phone once in a while, but I just log into my router and log into the firewall settings. The firewall settings are "high, medium, low, NAT". It started working once I started turning it off of NAT and onto Medium or High.
I don't know why this is the solution, but it is a solution. I suspect that either Telus will fix the prolbem for everyone else or this thread will become popular. Now CCast is coming to Canada. So either Telus fixes it or there'll be a lot of searching leading to this post.
As a reminder, a friend of mine on telus never toughed his firewall settings and never had a problem with using his CCast. Go figure.
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Well if the Telus was set to NAT perhaps Double Nat Translation was the issue.
DO you have another router connected to your modem or is this one of those all in one Hybrids supplied by the ISP?
Asphyx said:
Well if the Telus was set to NAT perhaps Double Nat Translation was the issue.
DO you have another router connected to your modem or is this one of those all in one Hybrids supplied by the ISP?
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I have a friend that is struggling with this as well. While setting up the WiFi connection between the chromecast and the router (the Actiontec V1000H - which is a modem/router combo if that helps). The chromecast will see the WiFi, but it seems to time out while trying to connect to the router.
I did find a comment on a blog somewhere (sorry, I forget where) that suggests unchecking the "IGMP snooping enabled" option in the router (Advanced Settings>IGMP Setting). Once this was done, the chromecast connected to the WiFi without any issues and we were able to stream it without any issues.
However after going out for dinner we had major issues trying to connect to the WiFi on our phones and his laptop (laptop would try to connect to the WiFi but continually fail). It seems like this is a temporary fix at best.
The only permanent solution I can think of at the moment is to go buy a new router that is listed as having no issues on the chromecast compatibility list... Which kind of defeats the whole purpose of having the chromecast as an economic way to stream content to your big screen.
Buy a better router
I don't see why IGMP should have any affect on being able to login and connect.
I Can see it being a problem with streaming but not connection.
IS this an ISP provided Modem/Router? How many devices are connecting wirelessly?
Check settings for IGMP Proxy, Try changing that setting whatever it is but it should probably be disabled (Still don't think this would affect connection but it's worth checking)
Check if UPnP Is enabled (again not really connection related but it does need to be enabled for CCast)
I personally prefer to use a two device setup with separate Modem (in Bridge Mode) and Router....This way the Modem protects the router from the outside world and even if the Modem goes bad the Network still functions properly.
And I pretty much stay away from anything that isn't a Linksys or Netgear product as far as Routers are concerned.
There are a bunch of Actiontec models that are listed as incompatible with CCast on the google site so it's obvious that something about their firmware is not CCast friendly.
So the the previous poster may actually have made a good suggestion in the long run! LOL
I'm using the telus actiontech router with chromcast with no issues....
its a pretty crappy router though and it seems telus disabled the ability for bridge mode in the latest firmware... has anyone found a solution to this so i can buy a better router?
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nolook said:
I'm using the telus actiontech router with chromcast with no issues....
its a pretty crappy router though and it seems telus disabled the ability for bridge mode in the latest firmware... has anyone found a solution to this so i can buy a better router?
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As long as double NAT doesn't cause you problems, you can
Assign the new router's WAN port to an address in the ISP router's LAN range
Set the new router's gateway to the ISP router's LAN address
Connect the two routers LAN port to LAN port
Have all your wired and wireless clients connect to the new router.
Hey guys, I got a problem with wifi on my One. The thing is I got a couple of wifi routers in my house (one can't cover the entire building) and they're both broadcasting the same SSID, password etc. basically one is connected via RJ45 to the other and set up exactly the same way. Problem is when I move around the house and lose connection to one of my routers and the phone automatically connects to the other all my connections on the phone stop working and I have to turn my wifi off and on again. Same thing happens when I'm at my university, each floor has 2 wifi routers on it and phone tends to jump between them screwing up the internet connection each time. I know it might not be the biggest issue in the world but still it's quite annoying especially since my old SGS didn't have this problem. My phone is not branded and of course up to date. Thanks for any advice.
theleet said:
Hey guys, I got a problem with wifi on my One. The thing is I got a couple of wifi routers in my house (one can't cover the entire building) and they're both broadcasting the same SSID, password etc. basically one is connected via RJ45 to the other and set up exactly the same way. Problem is when I move around the house and lose connection to one of my routers and the phone automatically connects to the other all my connections on the phone stop working and I have to turn my wifi off and on again. Same thing happens when I'm at my university, each floor has 2 wifi routers on it and phone tends to jump between them screwing up the internet connection each time. I know it might not be the biggest issue in the world but still it's quite annoying especially since my old SGS didn't have this problem. My phone is not branded and of course up to date. Thanks for any advice.
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From my experience after installing a lot of different wifi's in different operation modes, it all depends on how exactly the routers have been setup.
But to answer your initial question- the topic at hand; as long as the wifi's broadcasts the same SSID, you cannot choose which of the two individual routers you want to connect to. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik this is not possible. If you want the possibility to choose, then set them up with different SSID's. This would be the _easiest_ solution, just make sure they broadcasts at different frequencies with at least 5 channels apart, i.e. channel 1 and 6, or 6 and 11, or 1 and 11. These are the most popular ones in the 2.4 GHz spectrum. If you use 5 GHz you have a lot more to choose from.
Now, if it's important that your network works seamlessly (with the same SSID), I can provide a step by step guide upon request.
But the solution to your current problem, from my experience; yes you have to turn the wifi off and then on again to "force" the wlan-card on your cell phone to -faster- connect to the closest router, otherwise it will take maybe 15-45 seconds before it does this automatically. It's basically the same with computers. This mostly happens if the wlan-card are within range of both networks, but it will try to stay connected to current one before changing.
And there are some important guidelines to follow when you connect one router to another if they are from the same brand (because of the ip-range and gateway). I once had to setup 8 wifi-routers in a house, because of the size and the thick concrete walls (same SSID)...
The problem is my laptops and other phones don't seem to have this problem, also the phone doesn't 'fix' itself after 40 or so secs it just stays broken as far as I've noticed forever (or at least till i leave my house). Also it doesn't have a problem connecting to the other router, it loses connection, looks for available networks, finds my other router, connects and... nothing works. Exact same thing at the university, finds routers, connects with 5/5 bars and it just doesn't work.
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The problem is my laptops and other phones don't seem to have this problem, also the phone doesn't 'fix' itself after 40 or so secs it just stays broken as far as I've noticed forever (or at least till i leave my house). Also it doesn't have a problem connecting to the other router, it loses connection, looks for available networks, finds my other router, connects and... nothing works. Exact same thing at the university, finds routers, connects with 5/5 bars and it just doesn't work.
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Are you sure you have it setup with DHCP and not some static ip-settings? Can you post some screenshots of your wifi-settings?
If you haven't tried already, get your phone to "forget" it's settings so you have to reenter the password and make sure it's set to DHCP. But first take out the power from both your routers so they get a reboot, and make sure the ethernetcable is connected from one of the LAN ports on the main router connected to the internet (from your cable/dsl/fiber-modem), and in to the WAN/Internet port on the secondary router. Btw what routers do you use as master and slave?
Yes of course I have the routers set up just like you say And yes I'm using DHCP on both of them. They are Airlive 1600GL with tomato rom as main and WR740N as secondary. I took screenshots of what seemed relevant sorry the main router's settings are not in English but it seems that would require me to reflash it with a different rom.
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Yes of course I have the routers set up just like you say And yes I'm using DHCP on both of them. They are Airlive 1600GL with tomato rom as main and WR740N as secondary. I took screenshots of what seemed relevant sorry the main router's settings are not in English but it seems that would require me to reflash it with a different rom.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2668574/HTC One/Screenshot_2013-12-20-23-22-28.png
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What's with the DNS being 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?
Seraphicus said:
What's with the DNS being 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?
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These are Google DNS.
I would do it simple and solve it by changing the SSID on the slave router to something different, like wireless2, and change channel to 1. Or change the channel on the master router from 8 to 11. Your phone will probably change from one network to another faster this way, or it's at least easier for you to manually choose.
If that doesn't help, and the network is 100% problemfree for other wireless devices, I guess it must be a firmware or hardware problem with your One's wlan-card. Most likely firmware.
I will try it in the morning but still I'm pretty confident it's not the matter of setting up my home network but rather One's software bug. I can't say with 100% certainty right now but I don't remember having this issue before the update to the newest Android version.
Both routers need to be on the same subnet, enable dhcp server on one and disable it on the second one. Also set the second one as an access point only with a static ip in the same subnet.
The problem you have now is that wireless clients must negotiate a new ip when switching routers because of different subnets assigned to each.
Let me know if you need more details.
But still that would fix the problem at my home, what about when I'm somewhere else?
What ROM are you running? I leave wifi enabled all the time and haven't had any issues moving between networks, it automatically connects when another network is in range.
Android 4.3 with Sense 5.5 all stock not even rooted.
Since your completely stock it should just work. I'd try fixing the home network first and see if that solves the issue at home, then move on to trying to figure out the network issue at school.
Router1 - master
Internet connected to wan port
Cable from lan port to a lan port on router2
Dhcp: enabled with an ip range of 192.168.1.100 and up
Lan ip 192.168.1.1
Channel 1
Router2 - slave
Nothing connected to wan port
Cable from Router1 lan port to lan port on this router
Dhcp: disabled
Lan ip 192.168.1.2
Channel 11
Set ssid and wpa settings the same on both routers.
With this setup clients can hop from one access point to the other without a dhcp request or ip change, should switch within seconds.
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Since your completely stock it should just work. I'd try fixing the home network first and see if that solves the issue at home, then move on to trying to figure out the network issue at school.
Router1 - master
Internet connected to wan port
Cable from lan port to a lan port on router2
Dhcp: enabled with an ip range of 192.168.1.100 and up
Lan ip 192.168.1.1
Channel 1
Router2 - slave
Nothing connected to wan port
Cable from Router1 lan port to lan port on this router
Dhcp: disabled
Lan ip 192.168.1.2
Channel 11
Set ssid and wpa settings the same on both routers.
With this setup clients can hop from one access point to the other without a dhcp request or ip change, should switch within seconds.
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Tried that setup for many times over the years I've worked with routers, from my experience that is unstable.
I took delivery if a Chromecast today and the setup is a breeze. As I'm in Europe I have changed some settings in order to access the American version of Netflix because if the extended selection of films and series. It runs fine on my Galaxy Note 8, iMac, and Xperia Z1. But it can't run on my TV. Every time I try to cast a film on it I get this error: "Whoops, something went wrong...Device Messaging Error. There was an unrecoverable error on your computer. Please reload the page to resume controlling your device."
I have done some searches and found various possible solutions, but none worked. This is what I've tried:
- Signed out of all devices in Netflix.
- Reset the Chromecast.
- Disabled WWM on the router.
I doubt it's an issue with Netflix as it works fine on all devices except on the TV. Sometimes I do see there is an error on my iMac saying that Microsoft Silverlight has crashed but that doesn't seem to affect anything. Is there anything else I could do to troubleshoot?
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I took delivery if a Chromecast today and the setup is a breeze. As I'm in Europe I have changed some settings in order to access the American version of Netflix because if the extended selection of films and series. It runs fine on my Galaxy Note 8, iMac, and Xperia Z1. But it can't run on my TV. Every time I try to cast a film on it I get this error: "Whoops, something went wrong...Device Messaging Error. There was an unrecoverable error on your computer. Please reload the page to resume controlling your device."
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Please tell us...
What make/model router do you have?
Can you describe how you "changed some settings" to access US Netflix?
Do YouTube and other services work?
If you use your normal DNS settings and access your local Netflix, does it work okay?
Chromecast is its own device and does its own DNS lookups and Internet requests after receiving the "go play this video" request, so if you're redirecting DNS on specific IPs/devices (rather than everything on your network), then you need to be sure the Chromecast IP/device is being redirected.
Otherwise your phone/tablet/computer is in Mens and Chromecast is in the Ladies and...
Phone/tablet/computer: "Excuse me, could you get my phone next to the urinal?"
Chromecast: "What's a urinal??"
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What make/model router do you have?
Can you describe how you "changed some settings" to access US Netflix?
Do YouTube and other services work?
If you use your normal DNS settings and access your local Netflix, does it work okay?
Chromecast is its own device and does its own DNS lookups and Internet requests after receiving the "go play this video" request, so if you're redirecting DNS on specific IPs/devices (rather than everything on your network), then you need to be sure the Chromecast IP/device is being redirected.
Otherwise your phone/tablet/computer is in Mens and Chromecast is in the Ladies and...
Phone/tablet/computer: "Excuse me, could you get my phone next to the urinal?"
Chromecast: "What's a urinal??"
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Thanks for your reply.
The router is a Cisco EPC3925.
I used the instructions from the Unblock-us website. Changed the DNS settings to 208.122.23.23 and 208.122.23.22 as instructed. But I also changed the DNS settings to that on the Cisco router - otherwise the US material would not show on my tablet and phone (only on the iMac).
YouTube and Plex work just fine when casting material to the TV.
When using the normal DNS settings from the local Netflix it works fine.
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Thanks for your reply.
The router is a Cisco EPC3925.
I used the instructions from the Unblock-us website. Changed the DNS settings to 208.122.23.23 and 208.122.23.22 as instructed. But I also changed the DNS settings to that on the Cisco router - otherwise the US material would not show on my tablet and phone (only on the iMac).
YouTube and Plex work just fine when casting material to the TV.
When using the normal DNS settings from the local Netflix it works fine.
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Netflix and hulu etc are having issues this morning if you are on a Uverse, if your redirect is a uverse one that may be the issue as well
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Thanks for your reply.
The router is a Cisco EPC3925.
I used the instructions from the Unblock-us website. Changed the DNS settings to 208.122.23.23 and 208.122.23.22 as instructed. But I also changed the DNS settings to that on the Cisco router - otherwise the US material would not show on my tablet and phone (only on the iMac).
YouTube and Plex work just fine when casting material to the TV.
When using the normal DNS settings from the local Netflix it works fine.
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Thanks for the info.
Seems like your core problem is that by default Chromecast uses the Google DNS servers regardless of what DHCP provides, so even though you've set your router so all its DHCP clients are being told to use the Unblock-us DNS, Chromecast still isn't. So all your devices are in the Mens, with the exception of Chromecast, which still goes to the Ladies, even though you tell it go to the Mens, thus it responds with "What's a urinal??" when you reference things in the Mens (US stuff).
Chromecast will fall back to using the DHCP-supplied DNS server(s) only if it doesn't get a response from Google's DNS.
Normally the ways around this would be to:
Route Google DNS requests to a bogus/non-existent gateway
Block Google DNS requests entirely
so Chromecast does not get a response from Google's DNS. Which one works depends on how your router handles the blocking/forwarding. You want a timeout or destination unreachable, rather than an outright refusal.
But... I looked in the manual for your router (seems to be a VoIP+modem+router combo) and unfortunately I couldn't find any way to add a static route, nor did I find a way to block or forward requests specifically for Google DNS.
So unless the ability to add static routes or the ability to block port requests for specific WAN destinations has been added, you may be a bit stuck. Definitely check through your router's config to see though, often times the manual lags far behind the current feature set.
However, if you don't have the necessary options in your router, that leaves you with these possibilities:
Add a router that can provide blocking or redirection via one of
static routes
IP-specific port-blocking
iptables rules
to provide network to Chromecast and devices controlling Chromecast (they need to be on the same subnet).
VPN - which is beyond my area of expertise for this usage.
Get a rooted Chromecast so you can use Eureka-ROM to enable use of DHCP-supplied DNS rather than Google DNS
If you go with option (a), you will have double-NAT, which can be problematic.
You would connect the new (filtering) router's WAN side to your existing router's LAN site. You cannot connect the two routers LAN-LAN as the new router will only filter/redirect traffic when it does the IP translation from LAN to WAN.
If your existing router has a Bridge option for its LAN connection, that would avoid double-NAT (bridge will connect the WAN side to LAN side transparently and disable all router NAT and filtering), but it's more likely that you would get a Static Route option before you get a bridge option.
Anyway, contemplate a bit, first check if there's Static Routes in your router's config. Sorry this has been such a verbose post.
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So unless the ability to add static routes or the ability to block port requests for specific WAN destinations has been added, you may be a bit stuck. Definitely check through your router's config to see though, often times the manual lags far behind the current feature set.
Anyway, contemplate a bit, first check if there's Static Routes in your router's config. Sorry this has been such a verbose post.
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Many thanks for your detailed reply!!
I don't know much about modems/routers so would be a bit wary of setting up a new router. I checked in the setting on the modem/router provided by my ISP and there is an option to add static ip. Would that be a way to block Google's DNS?
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Many thanks for your detailed reply!!
I don't know much about modems/routers so would be a bit wary of setting up a new router. I checked in the setting on the modem/router provided by my ISP and there is an option to add static ip. Would that be a way to block Google's DNS?
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Unfortunately not - and don't change that - you'll lose Internet connection.
While you're there, though, can tell me what options you have in the Working Mode dropdown where it currently says Router Mode?
DON'T change it though - that's likely to break your Internet connection too.
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While you're there, though, can tell me what options you have in the Working Mode dropdown where it currently says Router Mode?
DON'T change it though - that's likely to break your Internet connection too.
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There's Router Mode and Bridge Only in the dropdown.
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There's Router Mode and Bridge Only in the dropdown.
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Cool. If you decide to get another router, you should be able to switch that dropdown to Bridge Only and connect your existing router's LAN port to the new router's WAN/Internet port, and it should avoid double-NAT-ing.
Essentially your existing router would only be used as a modem (and VoIP, if you're using VoIP), and you'd disable old router's WiFi and do all your DHCP, WiFi, etc on your new router.
As a rule I try (best I can) to avoid Dual Purpose networking devices as I have found they do neither task very good....
Unfortunately ISPs are moving towards these all in one boxes (Modem/Router/WiFi) and it Wreaks havoc on those who have their own networking gear....
Whats worse is they are locking the configs of these devices so that you can't change them easily to get it to do what you want.
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Cool. If you decide to get another router, you should be able to switch that dropdown to Bridge Only and connect your existing router's LAN port to the new router's WAN/Internet port, and it should avoid double-NAT-ing.
Essentially your existing router would only be used as a modem (and VoIP, if you're using VoIP), and you'd disable old router's WiFi and do all your DHCP, WiFi, etc on your new router.
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Sounds too simple to be true. I do have an extra router so perhaps I'll test it out at some stage during the week. Thanks for your help so far!
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Sounds too simple to be true. I do have an extra router so perhaps I'll test it out at some stage during the week. Thanks for your help so far!
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You can also try this simple test without the router to see if it works....
Connect your computer directly to the Modem/Router...
Set the Router to Bridge Only mode and if your PC gets an outside (Public) IP Address then you know it will work with an external Router.
The only issue you might face is sometimes if the ISP provided the Modem they program it not to accept that change without it coming from their side.
I connected a new router (ASUS RT-N56U) to the existing router/modem. The existing was set to Bridge Mode with DHCP off and it can connect to the internet but not cast any show (local or US) to the TV. Not sure what details are needed for you to help me getting it to work. I can cast local Netflix onto my phone and tablet. YouTube videos can cast to TV.
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I connected a new router (ASUS RT-N56U) to the existing router/modem. The existing was set to Bridge Mode with DHCP off and it can connect to the internet but not cast any show (local or US) to the TV. Not sure what details are needed for you to help me getting it to work. I can cast local Netflix onto my phone and tablet. YouTube videos can cast to TV.
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Not totally up on the settings screens for your new router but check to see what IP Address it has under the Internet settings.
Every Router has two IP Addresses, one local (192.168.x.x) and one Public (should be provided by the Modem in bridge mode),
If both are local IPs then your double NATing which will easily break Netflix. If one is a Public IP then check other settings in the new router most notably UPnP and Multicast.
Also ( sorry dumb question follows) but you did make sure to set up the CCast to connect to the NEW router not the old one?
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Not totally up on the settings screens for your new router but check to see what IP Address it has under the Internet settings.
Every Router has two IP Addresses, one local (192.168.x.x) and one Public (should be provided by the Modem in bridge mode),
If both are local IPs then your double NATing which will easily break Netflix. If one is a Public IP then check other settings in the new router most notably UPnP and Multicast.
Also ( sorry dumb question follows) but you did make sure to set up the CCast to connect to the NEW router not the old one?
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There are two IP addresses: 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.254, first one local and the other public. I can't locate UPnP and Multicast in the router.
I made sure to set the Chromecast to the new network. The old one shows but it's not connected to the internet. It's in bridge mode.
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There are two IP addresses: 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.254, first one local and the other public. I can't locate UPnP and Multicast in the router.
I made sure to set the Chromecast to the new network. The old one shows but it's not connected to the internet. It's in bridge mode.
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As I suspected...Your Double NATing is the problem....Your new Router is not actually breaching the Modem to the Internet.
This modem also has WiFi built in I bet....
The DHCP you shut off probably doesn't apply to anything directly plugged into the Modem. Just the WiFi.
You need to look for a setting that gives you the option of passing a local/internal (192.168.x.x) IP or Outside IP and set it to pass an Outside IP. (this is on the Modem BTW)
If the Router reports any IP that starts off 192.168 for Public then you are not set up correctly.
If you see the option to change from local IP to Outside IP but it is greyed out then your ISP locked it out and they must make the changes on their end.
Call and tell them your Modem is in Bridge mode but doing double NAT translation and you can't breach the Modem with your router.
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There are two IP addresses: 192.168.1.2, 192.168.1.254, first one local and the other public. I can't locate UPnP and Multicast in the router.
I made sure to set the Chromecast to the new network. The old one shows but it's not connected to the internet. It's in bridge mode.
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As @Asphyx said, there's double-NAT going on. This may be a problem, but the core problem at the moment is that new router's WAN and LAN are using the same subnet.
I recommend...
Turn off the WiFi on your old router, if you can.
Look for the stuff Asphyx mentioned.
If you get stuck, call your ISP
Ask them to enable Bridge mode and explain that you're looking for more robust routing and firewall features
Ask if there's a firmware update for your existing modem/router combo to provide this, if there is a different ISP-provided modem/router you can use that has better features, or if they can provide/recommend a modem-only device (if they don't/can't enable Bridge mode)
Ideally, you want to see is your new router getting a WAN address that is not 192.168.x.x
If you reach that point, you're done.
If not, you at least want your new router getting a WAN address that is in a different subnet from its local network.
On your new router, change the Local address to 192.168.2.2
That will switch things on the new router to the 192.168.2.x subnet. Now the new router and old router will be on different subnets.
Make sure any client devices (wired or wireless) that have static IPs set are changed to use IP 192.168.2.something and gateway 192.168.2.2
My network is double-NAT and I have not had issues with Chromecast, streaming, VPN, or anything else, but you definitely should avoid double-NAT whenever possible.