Well, will this work? I can get prime videos to play through mobile firefox, but that is as far as I've gotten. I've tried but I don't know that I am using it right. Is there some way, with the new apps, to get Amazon Prime video streaming from my phone/tablet to my chromecast?
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Well, will this work? I can get prime videos to play through mobile firefox, but that is as far as I've gotten. I've tried but I don't know that I am using it right. Is there some way, with the new apps, to get Amazon Prime video streaming from my phone/tablet to my chromecast?
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I'm betting for now that the answer is NO...But there may be ways with a Hacked Rooted CCast.
I would be guessing but I expect there to be DRM in those that requires a player that can decode the DRM stream.
Netflix has one for the CCast and until Amazon supports CCast natively I wouldn't expect it to work without direct streaming whatever is on the Tablet screen directly to the CCast via Allcast or some other app that requires a Rooted CCast..
You can use vget with the full version of Avia
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You can use vget with the full version of Avia
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I have the full version of Avia. How can I use it with Amazon prime videos?
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I have the full version of Avia. How can I use it with Amazon prime videos?
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You probably can't, I'm guessing it has some kind of drm.
I meant using vget for sites like putlocker or other storage sites.
What I do is use vget as a dlna server and read it through avia.
Works as a charm MOST times.
For some reason some files won't play through dlna or streaming, and I have to download them with vget
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As far as I know...Anything that can only be played through a proprietary portal and their proprietary software (This includes NetFlix, GPlay, and Amazon) are most likely protected with DRM so that they can only be played on their proprietary player.
Which means it is pretty much up to them to incorporate Casting to CCast before you can cast those content items.
No way around it that I can think of.
Netflix activates an app on the CCast that knows how to decode their DRM encryption to play.it's streams.
It's a safe bet GPlay does this too and Amazon will need to create the same system they use.
While we all want Screen Mirroring and Local casting...The truth is the DIAL technology was always meant to be used in the way NetFlix uses it.
Thankfully it is flexible enough that we can get those other things as well.
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As far as I know...Anything that can only be played through a proprietary portal and their proprietary software (This includes NetFlix, GPlay, and Amazon) are most likely protected with DRM so that they can only be played on their proprietary player.
Which means it is pretty much up to them to incorporate Casting to CCast before you can cast those content items.
No way around it that I can think of.
Netflix activates an app on the CCast that knows how to decode their DRM encryption to play.it's streams.
It's a safe bet GPlay does this too and Amazon will need to create the same system they use.
While we all want Screen Mirroring and Local casting...The truth is the DIAL technology was always meant to be used in the way NetFlix uses it.
Thankfully it is flexible enough that we can get those other things as well.
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That makes sense. I just hope that sooner, rather than later, Amazon decides to open up their videos to all the android users...I mean for crying out loud, there is an app for the Wii and nothing for Android yet. Ridiculous.
primetime34 said:
That makes sense. I just hope that sooner, rather than later, Amazon decides to open up their videos to all the android users...I mean for crying out loud, there is an app for the Wii and nothing for Android yet. Ridiculous.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for Amazon too... can already do it on my TV, but my TV's interface is klunky.
I think they will get there but it's a huge company whose software divisions are pretty much focused on their Kindle and Internal stuff.
Unfortunately I don't see them listed under the Dial Registry Database at all right now...
http://www.dial-multiscreen.org/dial-registry/namespace-database
Now that posting could be out of date and it may not mean they aren't working on it just that they haven't registered their Name yet.
They may be waiting for the public release of the SDK. Not sure how close they are with Google as far as development goes to be right on top of it.
I tend to avoid buying any music or content with DRM. I would rather buy the disc and rip it into a DRM free format so I can keep it on the Media Server or NAS.
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I tend to avoid buying any music or content with DRM. I would rather buy the disc and rip it into a DRM free format so I can keep it on the Media Server or NAS.
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Totally my attitude as well though recent life changes have pushed me to more of a "wherever, however" methodology, heh. Still won't pay for DRMed stuff as I've been burned too many times in the past, but I'll rent/subscribe for streaming now. Scary. I finally subscribed to Netflix... but mainly because I had the code from Chromecast. Nice bonus, the $8.99 1-month DVD+streaming gift card I bought years ago redeemed for two months of streaming service ($15.98 value). :victory:
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Totally my attitude as well though recent life changes have pushed me to more of a "wherever, however" methodology, heh. Still won't pay for DRMed stuff as I've been burned too many times in the past, but I'll rent/subscribe for streaming now. Scary. I finally subscribed to Netflix... but mainly because I had the code from Chromecast. Nice bonus, the $8.99 1-month DVD+streaming gift card I bought years ago redeemed for two months of streaming service ($15.98 value). :victory:
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Netflix is a pretty good value when you get right down to it. I just signed up for the first time last month as well. Not sure I'll keep it but at the time Plex didn't support CCast! LOL
Truth is I got it as much for my Mother to use the account as for me! I may only keep as long as the MidSeason Break is on because there is nothing but crap on until January! LOL
Netflix is worth every penny imho.
Well, American Netflix. The other ones ain't so hot but if you have an open mind, there's plenty to watch.
If you are more of a 'up to date' guy, then Hulu might be the better alternative.
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Google blocks Chromecast app that let you stream your own videos...
"Google hasn't provided a clear answer on whether Chromecast will eventually let users stream their own local videos and music to the TV screen. But if early updates for the $35 dongle are any indication, the company doesn't want third-party developers trying to deliver that functionality. The most recent Chromecast update has broken support for AllCast, an Android application that previously allowed users to stream their personal media to a TV. AllCast (also known as AirCast thanks to a trademark dispute) could play back files stored in a phone's gallery, Dropbox, or Google Drive. Developer Koushik Dutta accomplished the feat by reverse engineering the Chromecast's code. He'd released several betas of the app, even planning a release on Google Play, before Google's latest software update broke things — "intentionally" in Dutta's opinion."
Read more...
http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/25/4...chromecast-app-that-let-you-stream-own-videos
They blocked these two apps so far:
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/G3jF2JynLc2
https://plus.google.com/117916055521642810655/posts/23BrB267QHJ
Let Google know exactly how you feel about this issue. If you're not happy downgrade and comment on their official Chromecast app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.chromecast.app&hl=en
xuser said:
They blocked these two apps so far:
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/G3jF2JynLc2
https://plus.google.com/117916055521642810655/posts/23BrB267QHJ
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Those apps were never approved and on the app whitelist. ALL apps are blocked by default. Only approved apps will run on the Chromecast. What those apps were doing was reverse engineering the Chromecast and using a hack to get around it. Google fixed that hack.
New names for Chromecast:
iCast
Castrate
ClosedCast
CastOff
OutCast
Sucks that now only YouTube and Netflix are the only things that'll play. Enjoyed the ability to play local media.
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New names for Chromecast:
iCast
Castrate
ClosedCast
CastOff
OutCast
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I'm calling mine Ebaycast.
I've got a Roku3 that does everything I need..
Very disappointing! I was at a friend's home and he was showing off mirroring his iclone through Apple tv. Was hoping Chromecast would top that.
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After getting Aircast and fling to work, I ordered 2 more Chromecast dongles. Just cancelled them.
Hopefully Google is just temp blocking until ready to officially supporti 3rd party apps. If not, back to Roku.
I don't know if anyone else noticed but casting a local video file from a chrome browser tab actually plays smoother now. But aircast provided the easiest way to cast a video file from an Android phone.
After getting Aircast and fling to work, I ordered 2 more Chromecast dongles. Just cancelled them.
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I have no interest in buying another Chromecast until this gets sorted out either.
So everyone is disappointed that it doesn't do something they never said it would? A lot to do about nothing if you ask me.
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So everyone is disappointed that it doesn't do something they never said it would? A lot to do about nothing if you ask me
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Mostly because it was more useful when AllCast and Fling worked. Kind of back in the ballpark with Google TV now in that it doesn't do a lot (for me anyway). Nothing more, nothing less.
Disappointed
akellar said:
So everyone is disappointed that it doesn't do something they never said it would? A lot to do about nothing if you ask me.
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I'd say we are disappointed because it appears Google is intent on heading off the kind of innovation and creativity that has made the Android platform so wonderful. Google should let developers do what they do best: reverse engineer, hack and create, to turn Chromecast into the most powerful and versatile device it can be. They should let people root the device, they should let people work around the limits.
The disappointment is more that this is a sign that Google is not interested in fostering a creative, innovative developer community for Android. The disappointment is more that Google seems so short sighted in thinking they need to lock everything down. I thought they knew that a large part of the appeal of the platform has always been how open it is.
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So everyone is disappointed that it doesn't do something they never said it would? A lot to do about nothing if you ask me.
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It may never have been announced to be able to do it, but to most it was obvious that the device was capable of doing it and that with dev support a lot was possible. It is disappointing to see how restrictive Google is being in taking away support for a function that the chromecast can handle. That being said, there will always be a way to accomplish this, it is just a matter of how inconvenient Google is going to make it.
While Google is within their own rights to change parts of the software that was never intended to be used for 3rd party, it's a massive mistake for Google to do this just to kill off those 3rd party apps. There must be a good reason for it and Google should make a public announcement as to why. There's probably a good % of sales of Chromecast specifically because of the functionality AirCast gave. I was going to buy a ChromeCast only because of the functionality AirCast gave but without this, a ChromeCast is useless for me.
I won't be buying until this functionality is officially supported or Google provides an official API/support for 3rd party applications that do provide this functionality.
Such a shame as Google had some much promise behind this product but that seems to have disappeared.
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jamosjamos said:
I'd say we are disappointed because it appears Google is intent on heading off the kind of innovation and creativity that has made the Android platform so wonderful. Google should let developers do what they do best: reverse engineer, hack and create, to turn Chromecast into the most powerful and versatile device it can be. They should let people root the device, they should let people work around the limits.
The disappointment is more that this is a sign that Google is not interested in fostering a creative, innovative developer community for Android. The disappointment is more that Google seems so short sighted in thinking they need to lock everything down. I thought they knew that a large part of the appeal of the platform has always been how open it is.
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The SDK isn't final. And in this case the developer hacked around one of the most essential parts (the app whitelist). No offense, but I don't want Netflix, HBO, etc to pull their content off the Chromecast so Google can let hackers design apps to stream content from my phone in a non-standard way that was never intented. How about we all wait until the SDK is final before judging Google. All they did was fix a security hole in the device.
Techno79 said:
While Google is within their own rights to change parts of the software that was never intended to be used for 3rd party, it's a massive mistake for Google to do this just to kill off those 3rd party apps. There must be a good reason for it and Google should make a public announcement as to why. There's probably a good % of sales of Chromecast specifically because of the functionality AirCast gave. I was going to buy a ChromeCast only because of the functionality AirCast gave but without this, a ChromeCast is useless for me.
I won't be buying until this functionality is officially supported or Google provides an official API/support for 3rd party applications that do provide this functionality.
Such a shame as Google had some much promise behind this product but that seems to have disappeared.
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I agree.
I purchased the ChromeCast only for the purpose of wireless playing movies from my laptop to my HDTV. I currently use a HDMI cable, but thought wireless would be ideal.
I never use Netflix.
I never use Utube.
I wasted $35 plus shipping, because google refuses to allow me to use the hardware I purchased the way I want to.
It just arrived a few days ago, and I can root it.
But I don't think rooting it will help.
It's just a paperweight now.
Maybe I can return it to Google for a full refund?
ddiehl said:
I'm calling mine Ebaycast.
I've got a Roku3 that does everything I need..
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Yeah, I just love DLNA support on my Roku3.
jamosjamos said:
I'd say we are disappointed because it appears Google is intent on heading off the kind of innovation and creativity that has made the Android platform so wonderful. Google should let developers do what they do best: reverse engineer, hack and create, to turn Chromecast into the most powerful and versatile device it can be. They should let people root the device, they should let people work around the limits.
The disappointment is more that this is a sign that Google is not interested in fostering a creative, innovative developer community for Android. The disappointment is more that Google seems so short sighted in thinking they need to lock everything down. I thought they knew that a large part of the appeal of the platform has always been how open it is.
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I hope you sent this as feedback, very well put. The corporate device manufacture, including Google has benefited from free private development. A lot of the features that come on devices today started with the devs witch in turn busted sales from their innovation and put android where it is today.
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I don't under stand what the problem was. I mean, I was just using AllCast to watch videos of my kids on the TV. I'm not willing to spend time to upload videos to YouTube just to do that (nevermind privacy concerns and the fact the world doesn't care about my kid doing backflips off the couch).
I already have an HTPC for media playback, there's only personal content on my phone.
This was probably disabled because it wasn't using the actual SDK and was more of a hack. Was neat while it lasted.
So I recently bought a chromecast and now I am looking for apps to use with it. Avia caught my eye so I will try to buy it however are there any free or useful apps to use with Chromecast. My chromecast isnt rootable so I guess I will use officially supported apps only. My main purpose for chromecast was to stream locally stored mp3s on my phone to my TV and home theather so are there any other apps that will do the job. Also do suggest any free alternatives or ways to get Avia support for free since google wallet isnt supported in my country even though paying 3 dollars for an app isnt much trouble.
kaibaa said:
So I recently bought a chromecast and now I am looking for apps to use with it. Avia caught my eye so I will try to buy it however are there any free or useful apps to use with Chromecast. My chromecast isnt rootable so I guess I will use officially supported apps only. My main purpose for chromecast was to stream locally stored mp3s on my phone to my TV and home theather so are there any other apps that will do the job. Also do suggest any free alternatives or ways to get Avia support for free since google wallet isnt supported in my country even though paying 3 dollars for an app isnt much trouble.
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I'm not aware of any free apps, maybe Google play music ? I don't know.
Avia does support streaming mp3s and stuff , I've used it myself from my dlna server.
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Well yeah I am aware of Avias capabilities and have also used Google Music but Google Music manager isnt supported for my country yet again so I cant use that. Avia seems like the best option for me but because it requires me to use a google wallet account it may be impossible to buy it in my country.
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I'm not aware of any free apps, maybe Google play music ? I don't know.
Avia does support streaming mp3s and stuff , I've used it myself from my dlna server.
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You could subscribe to plex pass through their website , which doesn't use Google play and the app is free to download, but you need a plex pass account.
4usd a month or 75usd lifetime.
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drivenby said:
You could subscribe to plex pass through their website , which doesn't use Google play and the app is free to download, but you need a plex pass account.
4usd a month or 75usd lifetime.
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FWIW, Plexing to Chromecast will be available to non-pass members once it is out of early access stage.
mdamaged said:
FWIW, Plexing to Chromecast will be available to non-pass members once it is out of early access stage.
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He can't use the play store
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He can't use the play store
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Oh, only saw him state that he can't use Google wallet, they accept credit cards too, or do they region lock those too? Maybe contact Plex and see what they can do, they are usually pretty accommodating.
I'm currently using Plex Media Server on my desktop to host my music (app is free for the PC) and then use Avia on my phone or tablet to access the Plex Media Server and stream to my chromecast on my home theater. Its a good work around until chromcast features are free on Plex.
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If he can't use wallet he may issues with aVia too...Doesn't it require an In App purchase to get the Chromecast support?
I'm betting that purchase goes through Google...
Oh yea good point Asphyx!
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Asphyx said:
If he can't use wallet he may issues with aVia too...Doesn't it require an In App purchase to get the Chromecast support?
I'm betting that purchase goes through Google...
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Yes, it does. Mine got declined at first till I figured out it was using an credit card that was stolen and had been changed.
kaibaa said:
So I recently bought a chromecast and now I am looking for apps to use with it. Avia caught my eye so I will try to buy it however are there any free or useful apps to use with Chromecast. My chromecast isnt rootable so I guess I will use officially supported apps only. My main purpose for chromecast was to stream locally stored mp3s on my phone to my TV and home theather so are there any other apps that will do the job. Also do suggest any free alternatives or ways to get Avia support for free since google wallet isnt supported in my country even though paying 3 dollars for an app isnt much trouble.
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Hello there!
I hope this helps
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3006709?hl=en
kaibaa said:
Also do suggest any free alternatives or ways to get Avia support for free since google wallet isnt supported in my country even though paying 3 dollars for an app isnt much trouble.
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Avia is on Amazon App Store too, and that version should use Amazon's in-app purchase rather than Google Wallet.
Can you get Google Wallet to activate using a Google Play redemption code, rather than credit card, or is it completely unsupported for your country?
Seems the first purchase (even a $0.00 purchase) requires adding some funds either through credit card or Google Play redemption code.
I can use amazon but Avia requires an in app purchase which is only available through google wallet. And Plex is the same story since its only available on the app store and not on amazon. I hate that google restricts regions like this. This is exactly the same reason why I had to buy my Nexus 5 for about $500 rather than for $450 through the google store.
bhiga said:
Avia is on Amazon App Store too, and that version should use Amazon's in-app purchase rather than Google Wallet.
Can you get Google Wallet to activate using a Google Play redemption code, rather than credit card, or is it completely unsupported for your country?
Seems the first purchase (even a $0.00 purchase) requires adding some funds either through credit card or Google Play redemption code.
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I can use amazon but Avia requires an in app purchase which is only available through google wallet.
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Uninstall the Play Store version and install the Amazon version. The Amazon version uses Amazon's in-app purchase which does not require Google Wallet. It would be it required Google Wallet it would be fairly pointless to have it on Amazon.
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And Plex is the same story since its only available on the app store and not on amazon.
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I see "Plex for Android ($4.99)" on Amazon.
Yeah I guess when I searched the entire Amazon store I didnt find it, I looked harder and found it in the dedicated section for apps. Will give it a try though. However which one do you think would be better. I did manage to find a way to get Avia as well, through a friend's credit card living in the US.
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Uninstall the Play Store version and install the Amazon version. The Amazon version uses Amazon's in-app purchase which does not require Google Wallet. It would be it required Google Wallet it would be fairly pointless to have it on Amazon.
I see "Plex for Android ($4.99)" on Amazon.
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Yeah I guess when I searched the entire Amazon store I didnt find it, I looked harder and found it in the dedicated section for apps. Will give it a try though. However which one do you think would be better. I did manage to find a way to get Avia as well, through a friend's credit card living in the US.
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It really depends on what your media library looks like.
In actuality they aren't head-to-head competitors much at all.
Avia is better if...
All your media is in a Chromecast-compatible format, or you are willing to convert it to a Chromecast-compatible format
You have a lot of media on your phone/tablet that you want to play and is Chromecast-compatible
You have a DLNA server that is not a Plex server and you want to cast content from it
You don't want to have a media server running (you don't have a server, or a system you're willing to have running for media playback)
Plex is better if...
Your media is not in a Chromecast-compatible format or you have no idea what that means
You have no clue what transcoding means, or you know what transcoding means, but you are unwilling to transcode your media library to make it Chromecast-compatible
You are okay with running Plex Media Server on a system for media playback
You have multiple playback devices (Roku, etc) that you use
Note that Chromecast support for Plex is currently limited to PlexPass members, but is planned to be released to the general public later.
I could be mistaken, but I believe someone said they use Avia to cast from Plex Media Server?
That actually made things really easy, Avia is the choice for me since I mostly only play mp3s and have my library stored on my Nexus 7 or 5. I wanted to ask, if I use a friend's credit card from the US and buy the app on my account would I be able to use the app outside the US or would I be able to download it on my device while staying in my country which doesnt support google wallet services.
bhiga said:
It really depends on what your media library looks like.
In actuality they aren't head-to-head competitors much at all.
Avia is better if...
All your media is in a Chromecast-compatible format, or you are willing to convert it to a Chromecast-compatible format
You have a lot of media on your phone/tablet that you want to play and is Chromecast-compatible
You have a DLNA server that is not a Plex server and you want to cast content from it
You don't want to have a media server running (you don't have a server, or a system you're willing to have running for media playback)
Plex is better if...
Your media is not in a Chromecast-compatible format or you have no idea what that means
You have no clue what transcoding means, or you know what transcoding means, but you are unwilling to transcode your media library to make it Chromecast-compatible
You are okay with running Plex Media Server on a system for media playback
You have multiple playback devices (Roku, etc) that you use
Note that Chromecast support for Plex is currently limited to PlexPass members, but is planned to be released to the general public later.
I could be mistaken, but I believe someone said they use Avia to cast from Plex Media Server?
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kaibaa said:
That actually made things really easy, Avia is the choice for me since I mostly only play mp3s and have my library stored on my Nexus 7 or 5. I wanted to ask, if I use a friend's credit card from the US and buy the app on my account would I be able to use the app outside the US or would I be able to download it on my device while staying in my country which doesnt support google wallet services.
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Well if your only trying to stream content on the unit I do not see how location restrictions apply.
Apps aren't usually the reason for locations restrictions, The Content that the App makes available is usually why it's here but not there!
and it should be pointed out to everyone who complains about Google not making things available outside of US that is usually because of Import restrictions the EU has enacted not because Google doesn't want to make it available or can't!
So if you buy the App I see no reason why where you use it is going to be an issue especially since your intention is to stream your own content.
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I could be mistaken, but I believe someone said they use Avia to cast from Plex Media Server?
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Yes this is what I do currently until the Plex app's chromecast feature works for free.
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That is for non plex pass members?
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why dont you email them and ask, then come and post it here so everyone knows.
I wouldn't expect them to make it public until they have all the bugs worked out.
Most notably the issues with the transcoder.
And even then they might wait until Music and Picture support is implemented.
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why dont you email them and ask, then come and post it here so everyone knows.
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Sometimes folks here have information others are not privvy to. But thanks for that helpful reply.
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The Plex employees in their forums won't speculate, but they definitely aren't implying that it's soon. The more experienced long-term Plex users seem to be suggesting to expect around 6 months based on past experience. But for all we know it could be tomorrow, and they're just doing a really good job of keeping it quiet.
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The Plex employees in their forums won't speculate, but they definitely aren't implying that it's soon. The more experienced long-term Plex users seem to be suggesting to expect around 6 months based on past experience. But for all we know it could be tomorrow, and they're just doing a really good job of keeping it quiet.
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Thanks for the replies.... I haven't kept current with the forums and was a bit curious....
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You could always become a monthly member for 3.99 until it's opened to everyone.
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VanillaG0rilla said:
You could always become a monthly member for 3.99 until it's opened to everyone.
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Truth is the Plex Pass fee is really only required for the Plex Player apps...
The Server is free! And truth is the Server is the most important part of that system because it works with any DLNA/UPnP player.
Right now aVia is the only player other than Plex that can play to CCast.
But it won't be the only one for long....
So it makes a ton of sense to be running a Plex Server (or any transcoding DLNA server for that matter) despite the fact you won't get all the features of it until a better player app that supports DLNA and CCast fully (With transcoding) comes along.
I'm using the Plex for android and stream media to my CC without any problem for about a week or so. It worked after they made an update recently. you just need to buy the app which is about 5 bucks.
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I'm using the Plex for android and stream media to my CC without any problem for about a week or so. It worked after they made an update recently. you just need to buy the app which is about 5 bucks.
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No just buying the app isn't enough...
CCast support requires PlexPass account. You can run the app and stream to your device but the CCast streaming shouldn't not work unless you have a PlexPass subscription.
I will note someone had a link to a developer version of the Plex App that bypassed this requirement but I wouldn't trust it...
I have had Plex for some time now and they are right, it is a anyone's guess when the support opens for casting. The developer version works just fine in my opinion as well. Avia does most of what I want anyway so if you want to put your money in the right place now, get the avia app honestly.
Isn't a month membership only like $3.99? I imagine that would be worth it for the time being. Just pay the few dollars dude. Not a big deal.
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Srambo217 said:
Isn't a month membership only like $3.99? I imagine that would be worth it for the time being. Just pay the few dollars dude. Not a big deal.
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Exactly what I did. It's only 3.99 people !
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Exactly what I did. It's only 3.99 people !
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It's not the cost... I purchased the plex app. That is what is needed for my use. I have also purchased the a avia app as well. I don't want to pay four bucks a month for a service that I rarely use. Four kids in college and all that.
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third son said:
It's not the cost... I purchased the plex app. That is what is needed for my use. I have also purchased the a avia app as well. I don't want to pay four bucks a month for a service that I rarely use. Four kids in college and all that.
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Quite Understandable....I'm not even sure you can buy just one month as I thought the Sub Options were a Year and Lifetime.
I understand why CCast support is PlexPass only at this point. If you're a regular visitor to the Plex Forums you would see a myriad of issues being reported regarding the transcoding and specifically surround Audio. This is on top of the usual problems we talk about here such as loss of control, Network, Router and Connection issues.
Right now the PlexPass users are sort of acting as the Beta Testers for this since they are the most familiar with Plex and it's workings.
To open it up to the Public right now would probably overwhelm the support forum rehashing the Bugs they already know about and add the reports of things that are not broken just because the user didn't know there is a setting in Plex set wrong they didn't know exists.
I would guess that when the Transcoder is running perfectly you might see CCast support go Public.
But they may also wait until they finish their Music and Picture support which at this point does not exist at all.
aVia does work provided your library doesn't need transcoding but if you do then it might be worth paying for the PlexPass at least until they release it publicly.
Plex right now is the only system that works exactly as Google intended it to when they developed the CCast.
Mobile App tells the CCast to load a player app and play a stream direct from a server without needing the device that launched it once it starts.
Plex is the only system that transcodes local files for playback as RealPlayer requires you to upload to their cloud to get a transcoded stream back.
Perhaps the announcement about the 10 Apps with CCast support being added was a bit of stretching the truth for Christmas Shopping Marketing Purposes...
Cause lets be honest none of the options for Local Content are perfected or issue free. aVia has had at least 10 Updates since the announcement maybe even more....
Most of the work on the Plex side has been done to the server side because I haven't seen any updates to the Android apps itself, certainly not as many as the aVia Player has....
All the Local playback App options do the job better than CCast did before they were released...
But thats about all you can really say about them. They are all still learning how to crawl at this point and none are what I would call a perfected and Mature option that does everything we expect they should yet.
It's going to take time...What CCast does it much more complicated than what Miracast, Roku and Airplay do.
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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Nothing wrong with it, in my opinion. One of them might come up as the ultimate Chromecast app. So far for me, top stop is reserved for BubbleUPnP, but I would change in the heartbeat if something better comes out (tough ask).
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..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I was about to post the same thing. So far it has been very redundant and underwhelming. We need mirroring ASAP. And I'm still waiting for that app that makes me say, "Wow, I never thought of using the chromecast that way!"
Don't get me wrong, I love my chromecast. Best bang for the buck in the history of computers/electronics. I'm just spoiled. LOL!
I've never been opposed to choice. In fact it's why I own Android products and not an iPhone.
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I stated that in my post. I am all for free market.
I would just hope that someone can think of something better than all these local media streamers.
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abuttino said:
..... Are there way to many local media casting apps?
It seems another one pops up every few days.
I am all for a free market but, c'mon, let's get some originality!
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I think it's just a matter of those apps being the most logical early adopters for CCast support cause once one media player supports CCast the rest have to make sure to follow or lose marketshare.
And I wouldn't discount Google and the Whitelisting for reasons why we aren't seeing more innovative Apps for the CCast.
Players are pretty straight forward and other Apps are probably getting a bit more scrutiny from Google before getting approved for Whitelisting since those operations actually require a more complex code on the CCast side than the Local Player apps do.
The only thing that I'm disappointed in is the fact that none of the Local Stream Devs are doing much to expand the capabilities of the player on the CCast side. Bubble has probably done the most with it's subtitle support, and Plex's latest release has added a ton of features including Music Photo and some Eye Candy during navigation.
The Most popular Android player apps were popular due to the extra container and codec support they had but unless they can add that support to the CCast side player (difficult I know) their supporting CCast really isn't going to help them retain Market.
As for Mirroring you probably have two forces at play holding it up.
First the Operating System support has to be there which means only devices with 4.2.x or higher will likely be able to run it,
and Second would be the security issues (@bhiga mentioned early on) that could be triggered by some malware that could trigger your unit to mirror to someone else and violate privacy.
Even if someone finds a way to do Mirroring well I would expect Google to go over it with a fine tooth comb before they whitelisted it and lets be honest they may NEVER allow 3rd party Mirroring Apps and prefer to control that function all on their own. Perhaps as part of future versions of Android which currently the SDK seems to have the code for it but is not being used by anyone at the moment.
My chromecast has sat in my bottom drawer for at least the last 2 months. It wasn't overly useful to me, seeing as at home I have HTPC's everywhere, and I have a NAS that isn't powerful enough to host a Plex server and do OTF trans-coding for when I travel. I could use Plex server on the HTPC's, but they aren't exactly the most energy efficient when compared to my NAS. It also isn't worth the hassle of converting all of my vids to chromecast friendly format that my NAS could handle.
Synology just released the 5.0 software, with chromecast support for streaming videos. So now I have my entire movie/TV collection on my Synology NAS, which I can pull up on my Nexus 4 and stream the video's on my chromecast. It has OTF bandwidth/conversion, and so far has been running wonderfully!
Finally, my chromecast is useful. Big props to Synology for making this happen.
Sorry, this is mostly just me being a fanboy for Synology since they made such an obscure device a relatively high priority and have done so better than anything else out at the moment! (no, I do not work for them).
Nice. Good on Synology for supporting Chromecast! With millions of Chromecast shipped and now being shipped internationally I'm pretty sure it's no longer being considered obscure.
bhiga said:
Nice. Good on Synology for supporting Chromecast! With millions of Chromecast shipped and now being shipped internationally I'm pretty sure it's no longer being considered obscure.
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What is Synology?? Could you give a small brief description? Isit like a 24/7server. Or is it something else Does it cost
Krisshp said:
What is Synology?? Could you give a small brief description? Isit like a 24/7server. Or is it something else Does it cost
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It's an NAS Manufacturer with built in Media Server.
Not sure of it's ability to transcode but I do know there is a version of Plex made for some of their NAS units.
This is going to become a bigger use in the future. I used the readyNAS plex server package on my zyxcel nsa320. Works great!
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shelby04861 said:
This is going to become a bigger use in the future. I used the readyNAS plex server package on my zyxcel nsa320. Works great!
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Plex for NAS works well but it can get overcome if heavy transcode is needed.
Agreed. I just keep it all one format to minimize the need.
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Agreed. I just keep it all one format to minimize the need.
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I highly recommend an NAS to anyone who wants to stream Media. If you find you need better Transcode later on you can always add a server and map the NAS to it.
I have a Beefy HTPC that I was already running XBMC on with a Seagate 16TB NAS with Raid mapped to it. Installed Plex to that machine and it has pretty much been smooth sailing ever since.