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Guys I have contacted a few case manufacturers to see if they will produce cases or covers for this tablet as its going to be a popular device I hope they will listen and so do it quick.
I contacted Rock cases that do the quicksand series which is absolutely beautiful, and contacted Beyza cases as they do very elegant designs for good prices.
yeah, of course, in fact, many cases have been produced,
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yeah, of course, in fact, many cases have been produced,
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But not of high standard that I come to expect from Rock or Beyza, there is allot of the bulk produced cases which have the same design but different branding but nothing out of the ordinary has been made yet.
I think in the next coming month or so, higher quality/better cases will start to be produced. We just have to be patient
Some very high quality cases are available for custom order already:
Portenzo
Treegloo
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Some very high quality cases are available for custom order already:
Portenzo
Treegloo
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beestee those are too similar bookstyle, there isnt any backcover style that rock does or slip in cases like beza's out there at the mo but I do agree those cases are quality but I dont want to add bulk so I rather the other styles.
It'll take time for the more known manufacturers to decide or make cases for the Nexus 7.
If you want a quality case, just be patient and buy a cheap one for now.
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Yeah that what I am thinking of doing, but impatient as always
IMO
Usually, unless for some unforeseen reason, manufacturers have a plethora of case options selling well before an item's release.
Probably, my theory here is; they didn't know when it was coming out, it was all too quick, not enough buzz, they don't see a large market demand, time money invested would be more than their return due to low number of preorders/orders, they didn't get the dimensions/sample early enough to have them ready, considered the existing universal 7" case options would be sufficient.
Consider most screen protector companies didn't even have them ready and became available for preorder after the fact.
I'm trying this one for now: moko case it's relatively cheap, but one of the problems I have with almost all of the cases on the market at the moment is that they wrap the entire bezel, which is just lame. This one at least, is only attaching at a few points. Plus it has the auto wake magnet in the cover (despite the one reviewer's statement that apparently he was shipped the wrong one).
I'll update when I get it.
This one has got my vote so far; but since it won't be in stock until August 20th I'll be looking for other options until then.
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Portfo...UTF8&colid=34IOBDUA8QYLA&coliid=I3SDQI9PTYL6A
Try to hold off as long as possible, remember most places that are taking orders haven't even delivered units yet.
I'd say mid-August early September would be the best time frame to expect an abundance of cases to hit the market.
There may be some reluctance to make an expensive case for a cheap tablet that so far has not been explicitly marketed to the image conscious. It is not really a fashion accessory like an Apple product might be. So they may be waiting to see if the market develops.
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Yes! I bought this one (was $3 less at the time). It's not great. N7 slips a slight amount to make the camera hole off, or the sides look angled. Adds some weight. No out-off. I may just buy a pouch, I like the feel with no case much better.
Just curious if there has been any information released about a snap-tight case that would protect against spills/drops in water, dust-proof and possibility drop/shock proof. I know that the odds of a case like this being produced depends on how many of the devices are sold along with customer request.
So are there any companies out there that are saying they will produce one? Or is it time to start sending mass emails to request them to make it? Thanks!
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Just curious if there has been any information released about a snap-tight case that would protect against spills/drops in water, dust-proof and possibility drop/shock proof. I know that the odds of a case like this being produced depends on how many of the devices are sold along with customer request.
So are there any companies out there that are saying they will produce one? Or is it time to start sending mass emails to request them to make it? Thanks!
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I was amazed they are starting to make life proof cases for the gs3! Really doubtful they will make one for the note.
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Just curious if there has been any information released about a snap-tight case that would protect against spills/drops in water, dust-proof and possibility drop/shock proof. I know that the odds of a case like this being produced depends on how many of the devices are sold along with customer request.
So are there any companies out there that are saying they will produce one? Or is it time to start sending mass emails to request them to make it? Thanks!
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Is this even possible with an S-Pen? We may not get anything water proof, but something drop/shock proof is coming in the form of Otterbox cases. You can find those here: http://www.otterbox.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-cases/samsung-galaxy-note-2-cases,default,sc.html
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Is this even possible with an S-Pen? We may not get anything water proof, but something drop/shock proof is coming in the form of Otterbox cases. You can find those here: http://www.otterbox.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-cases/samsung-galaxy-note-2-cases,default,sc.html
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Well, I guess that you wouldn't be able to take the S-Pen out with a snap-on water-proof case. That's more or less a given.if you want it to be water-proof.
Yeah, I've been eyeing up the Otterboxes as usual which will help out in case of drops.
They could make cap on the s pen part like the one the iphone one has for the charging port which we could remove take the pen out and close it back up and such that way it would be sealed tight and still functional. I for one would really love a lifeproof for the note to come out.
LifeProof will never come out with a case in the galaxy note series due to the fact that the stylus is a major feature in the line. If they make one, losing the stylus feature kinda defeats the purpose of getting phablet like this. I can see them making one for the galaxy s3.
Well there are many ways to seal the device up without taking away the functionality of the stylus they would just need to really think of the best one. I mean seriously a cap that works like the port covers on most cases should work fine and keep it sealed but yeah i doubt they will make anything and yeah i know that the S pen is pretty much the point of buying a Note.
That would be awesome
Having paid full price for this thing I would love to get a waterproof case for it. I was thinking today about what I'd want in a rugged case. Since we have bluetooth/wifi I only have to plug it in to charge it, so some wireless charging solution would close off that port, as well as the headphone port. They could make another place to put the pen, triggering the internal sensor might be tricky. For now you can go to an outdoor store and get a waterproof pouch and put it in there when needed, but realistically it does rain sometimes so not needed to do that would be great.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/121112234399?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar try this
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http://compare.ebay.com/like/121112234399?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar try this
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I would be very cautious buying cheap waterproof cases. Wouldnt put my phone in there.
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I would be very cautious buying cheap waterproof cases. Wouldnt put my phone in there.
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Yep, not to mention it's only $20... A real shovk/water proof case will most certainly cost more than that.
For everyone else you can forget the speculation, there have been many of us contacting various companies about making such a case and the answer is invariably NO.
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When I had my Note 1 I looked for hours for a case, couldn't find one I liked just just ordered a cheap crappy one until I could find one I liked, in the end I found an okay one, but was still cheap and just rolled with that. But it wasn't what I really wanted. Ending up selling the phone a few months later, not based on the case.
Today I have ordered my Note 2, and the same case problem has arisen. I've spent a good 2 hours watching reviews, searching the web and I haven't found anything I like. The one in this thread is okay: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030149 But link was to US Ebay and auction has ended. I searched elsewhere but cannot find. But still would be like my Note 1, kinda cheap and just go with it.
But it's still not good enough. With the iPhone that I currently use, although not perfect, there are a number of top cases and is a little easier to pick a case. So my question is, is a case really needed? I'm not clumsy and rarely drop my phone, but always buy a case just incase. But looking at the Note 2 cases, I just cannot find one that suits my needs. Low profile, but good overall protection. Those otterbox cases are huge, plus the phone is huge itself.
I've looked through the "what case do you use" thread and I didn't see a single one I wanted to get.
A phone that big, you definitely need a case, unless you have hands like André the Giant.
You can't tell me that you perused the Note 2 accessories forum and couldn't find something that would suffice? I come across good TPU stuff on eBay all the time. Look harder, they are there.
Scott from DBA Cases is selling that case on his website if you are interested in getting that one. He has about 20 left. I dropped my phone once and it cracked the back cover, so I'm always going to be rolling with a case from now on.
I think that choice is up to you, but based on what you said I think you answered your own question. I'm in the same boat right now tho, except I know I atleast want some protection for the chrome trim. There are atleast 5 iphone cases Ive seen and would have bought if they made them for the note 2
http://www.dbacases.com/note-ii-cases.aspx
Dba cases sells em. Plus the owner can help you if u have any concerns.
If you want an awesome case (I have it for my S3, so I'm sure on the Note 2 it'll be huge), check out Urban Armor Gear. Their cases are awesome. Cases for the Note 2 are about to come out.
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http://www.dbacases.com/note-ii-cases.aspx
Dba cases sells em. Plus the owner can help you if u have any concerns.
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UK shipping cost is the same price as the case
Short answer, NO, you don't "need" a case. Whether you want one is up to you. All my phones run naked through the wilderness, and I have yet to have any break in the rare drop I've had. IMO It's a bit of insurance, and like extended warranties that stores, car dealers etc are always pushing I quit buying them years ago, and figure the money I've saved on all those little insurance policies will more than pay for whatever it is I have that may break, and I'll just buy a new one. Of course I am am in a stable financial position to be able to do that and if everything I own broke at once I would have issues, but that's my thoughts.
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I feel ya its the same shipped to canada. Contact scott for a coupon or maybe buy tje jlg screen protector with the case to offset the shipping cost.
Just dropped my brand new Note 2 in the parking lot and cracked/spidered the entire screen. $200 through insurance for a replacement.
So yes, a case is worth it.
Normally I forgo the case. This is the first phone that I have one for. The thing is the chassis is made with %10 butter. It's gotta be the slickest phone I've ever held. If I could find a backplate that's made with that hard rubbery material and a kickstand I'd probably go with that.
I ordered that case from DBA Cases, thanks for the info or damages. Not sure it will fully protect even from a drop, but it's worth a go. Still a little disappointed by the lack of really good cases though. There doesn't seem to be that in the middle perfect spot like some other phones.
I have never dropped my phone. I can also say that a big part is due to the case. My cases usually add some grip. Just in case I ever drop my phone, the case is already on there. I never run naked more than the 20 seconds it takes me to take it off, clean off my phone for dust or debris, and then put on another case.
END OF STORY!
Don't be a fool, wrap your... Phone...
Once again, Urban Armor Gear is probably the best case you can get for the S3 and Note 2.
You need food water and shelter. You dont need a case.
It is a good idea though
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
It only takes one good drop and your screen could crack. The choice is based on the amount of risk you are willing to take (and if you have insurance)
God forbid you do actually drop it you'll kick yourself for not buying one....especially after writing a post about it!
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When I had my Note 1 I looked for hours for a case, couldn't find one I liked just just ordered a cheap crappy one until I could find one I liked, in the end I found an okay one, but was still cheap and just rolled with that. But it wasn't what I really wanted. Ending up selling the phone a few months later, not based on the case.
Today I have ordered my Note 2, and the same case problem has arisen. I've spent a good 2 hours watching reviews, searching the web and I haven't found anything I like. The one in this thread is okay: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2030149 But link was to US Ebay and auction has ended. I searched elsewhere but cannot find. But still would be like my Note 1, kinda cheap and just go with it.
But it's still not good enough. With the iPhone that I currently use, although not perfect, there are a number of top cases and is a little easier to pick a case. So my question is, is a case really needed? I'm not clumsy and rarely drop my phone, but always buy a case just incase. But looking at the Note 2 cases, I just cannot find one that suits my needs. Low profile, but good overall protection. Those otterbox cases are huge, plus the phone is huge itself.
I've looked through the "what case do you use" thread and I didn't see a single one I wanted to get.
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I had a similar torrid time trying to find a case that I like and I agree that the bulk Otterbox adds totally turns me off. In the end I just settled for a standard TPU case until I can get my hands on a UAG.
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Just dropped my brand new Note 2 in the parking lot and cracked/spidered the entire screen. $200 through insurance for a replacement.
So yes, a case is worth it.
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Depends. A thin case won't do anything to protect against drops. It's more for scratch protection and for 99.9% of the people out there, it's just for style/fashion.
It depends. I've never used a case. I've had cell phones for more than a decade and I've never broken one.
You can't make it totally impossible to break your phone. But if you're careful enough, breaking a phone will be such a rare event that it will cost you less than all the years of buying cases would have cost you to try to prevent the rare breakage. And cases don't always prevent breakage anyway.
Beyond the matter of protection, some people prefer the aesthetics of cases, while others have the opposite preference. So it's really up to you.
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I've looked through the "what case do you use" thread and I didn't see a single one I wanted to get.
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I assume you have looked at Mobile Fun Galaxy Note 2 cases. They have about the best selection in the UK. I went for one of the Zenus cases. I have liked them since I first had one on my original Galaxy Tab. I like the one I have as it is quite low profile but protects nearly all parts of the Note. The only thing i don't like is that they have used a press stud for the closure rather than the magnetic clasp they used on my Galaxy Tab case.
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But it's still not good enough. With the iPhone that I currently use, although not perfect, there are a number of top cases and is a little easier to pick a case.
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EXACTLY what I say all the bloody time! The only thing I miss about the iPhony device is the sheer number of quality cases and accessories for it.
You know what, after having purchased multiple cases for all the phones I have used; GS3, GN2, GS2, GNex, N4 yada yada, I have come to the conclusion that with the exception of iP5, every single phone looks better WITHOUT a case. Just as the manufacturer intended it to be. Everything else just looks like an appendage. Sure, you run the risk of dropping your phone and breaking it, but then hey, you also run the risk of killing yourself every single day when you drive. Doesnt stop you from driving, does it? Doesnt even make you get a tank of a car just to be safe.
Here's to running butt naked :good:
I kayak fish a lot, and I've started participating in tournaments which use a phone app for submitting a measuring board photo of your fish. So I've been using a dry bag style "case" for a while, but it's cumbersome and doesn't really protect the phone very well from impacts, which can easily happen in a kayak. Anyway, someone finally made a LifeProof-ish/Obex-ish case for the Note 2:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NTXWR2E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I bought one and will post how well it works.
It has loop for you to attach a lanyard or strap -- I'll probably put one of the floating Pentax wrist straps that I have for my GoPros on it. Because the most waterproofed phone in the world isn't going to do you any good when it's lost at the bottom of the ocean.
I've been a long-time buyer of Seidio cases, but was VERY disappointed when they didn't make an Obex case for the Note 2 ("because of the S-pen"), but then made one for the Note 3. :silly:
Where's the review
Oops! Sorry! Thanks for the remind!
The case works PERFECTLY! Can't emphasize that enough. It's really easy to install it and use it, the touchscreen works very well, no leaks, the ports are relatively easy to access while also doing a great job of keeping water out. I've used it twice now fishing from a kayak, and it's really protected the phone well, while allowing full use of the camera as well as all other phone functions. Several people posted reviews on Amazon that the microphone doesn't work well, but I highly suspect that's because they don't have it lined up properly in the case because it works perfectly for me.
Just FYI, this is actually a "Redpepper" branded case rather than "EasyLife". If you Google "Redpepper Note 2" you may be able to find it for even cheaper than it is on Amazon.com. I'm not sweating it, though. The price I got on Amazon was already a fraction of a LifeProof case, and this is the only waterproof case I've found for our Note 2, anyway, so I don't mind rewarding them with a little extra just for that.
Here it is for less than half the price in case anyone else wants this case.
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Here it is for less than half the price in case anyone else wants this case.
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Just FYI, there's feedback on that specific seller for it taking over two months to receive the case. There are several other sellers who are also close to that price, though. Good luck.
Recently upgraded my Galaxy S4 to a Note 8, and since I'm a contractor, well... Felt the need for a solid case that is both dustproof and waterproof. My S4 has spent its life in a Seidio Obex case, and I've managed to keep it fairly pristine because of that fact.
The use case for a smart phone for a contractor pretty much implies that the phone is going to see a lot more abuse than average; the implication that follows is that a solid, waterproof/dustproof/drop-proof case is an imperative. Either that, or a very understanding insurance program...
The lack of seals on the case is a deal-breaker when it comes to ruggedized cases. Because of that, I've gravitated towards the ArmorX case, and ordered one for $59.99. They ship from China, and while customer service is excellent with that company, the delay inherent to shipping led me to acquire a cheapie Lanwow case from Amazon for $21.99 while I waited for the ArmorX. The Lanwow waterproof case is a pretty good value for the money, and appears to maintain the water- and dust-proof integrity that I wanted. If you're looking for something to put your phone in while doing something that would require that sort of protection, I'd suggest it.
What's interesting is that when the ArmorX case showed up, it appeared to be a note-for-note copy of the Lanwow case, which I found somewhat annoying. Closer examination shows, however, that the ArmorX version has a bit more in the way of internal bumpers around the buttons, and it has different moldings for grips on the sides of the case. Who copied who, or what the exact provenance of these two cases are, I can't say, but they're basically very similar: A front half that the phone drops into, with a full plastic screen protector, and a back that has the o-ring seal in it. Port access is virtually identical, and you're going to have a bunch of fun prising the S-Pen out of its happy little home, unless you've got some nice, long fingernails. So far, both cases seem to be very similar in format, with flexible plastic backs and very similar screen protectors. I'm pretty happy with them, although I sort of wonder about the price on the ArmorX--The value the company placed on it for customs was $12.00.
Overall, the sound quality hasn't suffered at all--Both cases allow you to hear the speakers quite well, and nobody has complained about what's coming from my end. After I have a bit more time with this case, I'll update this, but so far, so good.
Time will tell, and I'll update on this case. Several others on Amazon seem very similar in design, to the point where I wonder whether or not the same company is producing them.
I am also somewhat dubious as to the protection and durability factor, what with the flexible clear plastic back. I'd have preferred something a bit more substantial, but you get what you get with this design. A thicker and stiffer back wouldn't allow it to flex enough for it to seal properly.
As is, the case isn't that much bigger than the phone, appears to protect it well enough, and fits into the Night-ize XXL Clip Case Hardshell Holster. Between the two, I think I'll be able to keep this phone protected and working damage-free in a fairly harsh environment.
Ultimately, however... I'm probably going to shell out the $300.00 or so for a Juggernaut case, once they're available, and call it good. A thousand-dollar phone needs solid protection around my workplace, and the investment is more than worth it.
Good evening, I wanted to ask you what are the main defects of this case ?? The photos with the flash are perfect ?? The sound that the interlocutors perceive, is it perfect or low? When we speak, do we perceive "eco"? Thanks in advance.
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Good evening, I wanted to ask you what are the main defects of this case ?? The photos with the flash are perfect ?? The sound that the interlocutors perceive, is it perfect or low? When we speak, do we perceive "eco"? Thanks in advance.
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So far, I've found no major defects or game-stoppers with this case. The pictures taken with it are more than adequate, the flash works, and the sound is fine, without echo.
Overall, I think this is a good, solid design. It works with a Samsung wireless charger, although it does make placement a bit finicky. Also, removal of the on-phone stylus may be a bit of an issue, but since I mostly use another stylus for working with it, due to my preference to a larger size, I personally don't have a problem with that fact.
I think this is an excellent case, for what it is. I'm still likely to move over to Juggernaut, should they ever get a Note 8 case out on the market, but that's due to a desire for having something as bombproof and durable as possible.
Phone manufacturers are really missing a bet, by not building really well-ruggedized designs in the first place. The old Casio g'Zone phones had a market niche, and it's one that hasn't really been filled to anyone's satisfaction.
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Recently upgraded my Galaxy S4 to a Note 8, and since I'm a contractor, well... Felt the need for a solid case that is both dustproof and waterproof. My S4 has spent its life in a Seidio Obex case, and I've managed to keep it fairly pristine because of that fact.
The use case for a smart phone for a contractor pretty much implies that the phone is going to see a lot more abuse than average; the implication that follows is that a solid, waterproof/dustproof/drop-proof case is an imperative. Either that, or a very understanding insurance program...
The lack of seals on the case is a deal-breaker when it comes to ruggedized cases. Because of that, I've gravitated towards the ArmorX case, and ordered one for $59.99. They ship from China, and while customer service is excellent with that company, the delay inherent to shipping led me to acquire a cheapie Lanwow case from Amazon for $21.99 while I waited for the ArmorX. The Lanwow waterproof case is a pretty good value for the money, and appears to maintain the water- and dust-proof integrity that I wanted. If you're looking for something to put your phone in while doing something that would require that sort of protection, I'd suggest it.
What's interesting is that when the ArmorX case showed up, it appeared to be a note-for-note copy of the Lanwow case, which I found somewhat annoying. Closer examination shows, however, that the ArmorX version has a bit more in the way of internal bumpers around the buttons, and it has different moldings for grips on the sides of the case. Who copied who, or what the exact provenance of these two cases are, I can't say, but they're basically very similar: A front half that the phone drops into, with a full plastic screen protector, and a back that has the o-ring seal in it. Port access is virtually identical, and you're going to have a bunch of fun prising the S-Pen out of its happy little home, unless you've got some nice, long fingernails. So far, both cases seem to be very similar in format, with flexible plastic backs and very similar screen protectors. I'm pretty happy with them, although I sort of wonder about the price on the ArmorX--The value the company placed on it for customs was $12.00.
Overall, the sound quality hasn't suffered at all--Both cases allow you to hear the speakers quite well, and nobody has complained about what's coming from my end. After I have a bit more time with this case, I'll update this, but so far, so good.
Time will tell, and I'll update on this case. Several others on Amazon seem very similar in design, to the point where I wonder whether or not the same company is producing them.
I am also somewhat dubious as to the protection and durability factor, what with the flexible clear plastic back. I'd have preferred something a bit more substantial, but you get what you get with this design. A thicker and stiffer back wouldn't allow it to flex enough for it to seal properly.
As is, the case isn't that much bigger than the phone, appears to protect it well enough, and fits into the Night-ize XXL Clip Case Hardshell Holster. Between the two, I think I'll be able to keep this phone protected and working damage-free in a fairly harsh environment.
Ultimately, however... I'm probably going to shell out the $300.00 or so for a Juggernaut case, once they're available, and call it good. A thousand-dollar phone needs solid protection around my workplace, and the investment is more than worth it.
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I have never heard of Juggernaut cases before.... looked them up and those are some real cases, but the price is half that of the phone.
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I have never heard of Juggernaut cases before.... looked them up and those are some real cases, but the price is half that of the phone.
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True, that... But, which is cheaper? A $300.00 milspec case that could probably be dropped out of a C-130 during airborne operations and still have the phone inside be functional (true story related to me by an end-user of one of their products--They used the "find my phone" app to locate the damn thing on the drop zone. Case was scratched, phone inside still completely intact...), or buying a new phone every time something happens to it?
They don't make ruggedized phones with Note 8 features. So, the only option is, buy a case that gives you the durability and ruggedness you need, while letting Samsung provide the phone...
One of these days, the manufacturers will get their acts together on this, and start building phones that aren't fragile little technologic flowers. Something about like the Panasonic Toughpad FZ-X1, but with state-of-the-art OS and hardware and an affordable price...
Thanks so much!!! What are the best or worst things compared to "Lanwow"?
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True, that... But, which is cheaper? A $300.00 milspec case that could probably be dropped out of a C-130 during airborne operations and still have the phone inside be functional (true story related to me by an end-user of one of their products--They used the "find my phone" app to locate the damn thing on the drop zone. Case was scratched, phone inside still completely intact...), or buying a new phone every time something happens to it?
They don't make ruggedized phones with Note 8 features. So, the only option is, buy a case that gives you the durability and ruggedness you need, while letting Samsung provide the phone...
One of these days, the manufacturers will get their acts together on this, and start building phones that aren't fragile little technologic flowers. Something about like the Panasonic Toughpad FZ-X1, but with state-of-the-art OS and hardware and an affordable price...
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I really miss Nextel Phones...... Sprint needs to stuff it.
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I really miss Nextel Phones...... Sprint needs to stuff it.
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I keep hoping someone will start looking at this market segment again, and doing something original. I'd be happy if someone just started building their damn consumer phones with an eye towards integrating them with a ruggedized case, and then built from there. There's a lot of stuff that's less than optimal, when you look at how the phones integrate into the cases, which the manufacturers could easily rectify--If they were interested.
Problem is, the market isn't entirely rational. Too many folks want to have their "fashion phones", with all the bling, and too few want the features with the durability. As well, the market for "rugged' is too small and niche-oriented, like with the Panasonic line.
Still don't understand why Panasonic isn't marketing the hell out of their ToughPad line of phones, though--If they were available, and reasonably priced, well... I think they'd sell a lot of 'em.
Thanks so much!!! What are the best or worst things compared to "Lanwow"?
Post some photos, pls...