What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
diego9016 said:
What features are lost after unlocking bootloader?
Thanks in advance.
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If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
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funky0308 said:
If we are talking about 4.3 version, then none.
But - maybe if someone could confirm that X-Reality will stay after unlocking and using stock/stock based ROM.
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Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
diego9016 said:
Thanks for your response. I've already unlocked bootloader (Have a TA backup just in case), but I don't see any difference in the pictures. I have no idea if I still have X-Reality.
The BIONZ thing is lost after unlocking BL? Is there a way to check it?
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BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
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funky0308 said:
BIONZ thing?
I'm sure if you are on stock ROM - you still have X-Reality engine on.
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BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
diego9016 said:
BIONZ image processor... I read somewhere that maybe that feature is lost after unlocking BL.
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I'm not sure but I know that Bravia Engine was lost when we unlocked bootloader on older Xperia devices...
So it could be...
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Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
MohammadAG said:
Yes, X-Reality doesn't work after unlocking BL.
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I never saw any difference keeping x reality on and off, so it dosnt matter to me.
Hey, if you unlock and dont see any thing strange, be happy. Dont go search for missing things
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
eclyptos said:
Many users saying about issues when unlock BL even on 4.3. When we will unlock BL and do not missing anything?
I think we have to wait new year when custom roms will find the way.
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Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
MohammadAG said:
Things like X-Reality aren't easily replicated, otherwise they won't need to wipe the related keys. However, at certain times, I found the over-sharpening of X-Reality bothersome, and I switched it off.
Anyway, I don't see any issues with keeping my bootloader unlocked. I really don't miss anything, and I doubt most people would notice something's missing till they're told about it.
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Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
eclyptos said:
Yep, I think is not a big deal X-Reality Engine so it's true when we Unlock Bootloader on 4.3 we lose BIONZ Processing and X-Reality Engine?
If yes, what consequences we can have on device?
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Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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MohammadAG said:
Honestly, my best advice is to backup TA and unlock, see for yourself, if you're not bothered by anything then you haven't lost anything you'd miss.
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I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
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I will unlock now, but I already updated to 4.3 and I can't root my phone with locked BL to backup TA. I don't care about warranty, I brought the phone with intention to come on XDA an flash, so I was aware about losing warranty.
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
I am just worry do not lost something what I will need further time and I referring about the functionality of the device.
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Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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MohammadAG said:
Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Why i need to downgrde to 534 and backup TA?, Can i upgrade to the 4.3 and backup?. difference between two methods
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Downgrade to 534 and backup TA, then upgrade again. Just backup TA in any way possible.
Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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shteren said:
Really? Somply using the TA. Backup program to restore relock the bootloader? No need to use flashtool or adb first?
Btw in older phones BE 2 stopped working for pictures but kept working for videos on unlocked bootloaders
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I don't know of any programs, I simply use dd to backup and restore, but I'm guessing any program that does that is simply a script that uses dd.
I never saw the advantages of X-Reality in photos, only saw it in videos, and I can't see it anymore.
Restoring the TA doesn't need flashtool, adb is just to make terminal access easier and transfer the backup, technically you could just use a terminal emulator on the Play Store and upload the backup to Google Drive without using a PC. You just need to be rooted.
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Restoring TA relocks the bootloader and restores X-Reality and the likes.
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Restoring TA that mean restoring the phone to factory state, that mean I can't do that if I am on Custom Rom with Custom Kernel.
Factory state I will need just for warranty or I have to choose what I want, Custom Rom with Custom Kernels without X-Reality and BIONZ or Custom Rom with Stock Kernel with X-Reality and BIONZ?
What you people will do?
eclyptos said:
Even if I backup TA I will lose BIONZ and X-Reality anyway so backup TA to me don't make sense.
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What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
benziii said:
What is this you go on about BIONZ?
What, your camera now takes raw photos or what?
How does your camera work if your image processor supposedly doesn't?
If you manage to flash your way to a custom kernel and rom, how hard is it to go back to stock and then shove your DRM keys back in there?
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BIONZ processing and X-Reality maybe do not influence much the functionality. I am just careful do not lose some pieces which I will need in the future but the only thing what people are saying is that I need the DRM for restore to stock.
Like I said, why I should go back to stock? Just for warranty, who cares! In this DRM keys is something what I have to keep?
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I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
akss009 said:
I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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It's all good now. If you backup your TA partition first before you unlock the BL you can flash the keys back and BE2 will work again. You can read the tutorial here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234627
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I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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rooting isn't the problem, but unlocking the bootloader. luckily there is a way to root your phone without unlocking the BL, but keep in mind: you can't install custom firmware with a locked bootloader (only sony based ROMs or ROM-modifications)
akss009 said:
I have heard that rooting xperia Z would lead to loss of Bravia Engine functionality and Track ID too, is it correct ?
I am thinking to root my phone.
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If you unlock your bootloader then you lose the Bravia Engine, however Track id isn't in the same category as that and will be unaffected.
There are much better replacements to Track ID anyway in the Play Store.
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rooting isn't the problem, but unlocking the bootloader. luckily there is a way to root your phone without unlocking the BL, but keep in mind: you can't install custom firmware with a locked bootloader (only sony based ROMs or ROM-modifications)
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all of that doesn't matter anymore though. SInce you can get your DRM keys back and your XZ's BL will be locked again once you flash back your own TA image.
So for now i am going only for root without unlocking BL
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akss009 said:
So for now i am going only for root without unlocking BL
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You can do what you want. Unlock the BL or not. If you backup your TA partition first you can do anything. As long as you backup your TA partition first before you unlock the BL. But if you really don't want to unlock the BL that is your call too.
shadowboy23 said:
all of that doesn't matter anymore though. SInce you can get your DRM keys back and your XZ's BL will be locked again once you flash back your own TA image.
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that's true, but maybe he just wants the root
FSN said:
that's true, but maybe he just wants the root
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Yes, maybe that's all he wants for now. Just letting the OP know that losing your DRM keys and BE2 not working anymore is yesterdays news. So the OP can do what he wants without the fear of losing the DRM keys and BE2 not working.
Thanks for your suggestion guys, since I am new to Sony so Just want to root for now and play around with stock ui, until i get bored
P.S. - Got my xperia Z last saturday , before that had Galaxy S2, and i have flashed it more than a 100 or 200 times till it went dead, dont remember.
There is a root method without unlocking your BL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
I've tested this method with my locked BL, that works like a charm.
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it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
You can try flashtool, BLU option tries to relock it if it's unlocked, theres a good chance you will brick your device!
Have fun
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AntiDroid said:
it is possible to lock it without a backup, is your camera not working anymore ?
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Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that. And... it seems that I was:
** Correction - it is Ok to relock the bootloader without having the pre-unlock data in the TA partition
** Flashing in data from any other TA partition (some other phone) seems certain to brick the phone though.
n0bleINtP said:
Are you sure this is good and/or informative advice? I thought a locked bootloader not finding valid keys in the TA will refuse to ever function usefully again - no boot, no fastboot, no flashmode, nothing, totally bricked, and no way to convert it back to unlocked and get your phone back.
I would like to know if I am wrong about any of that.
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I've never read about those damages but I read things like the known camera bug.
I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3). I flashed a Recovery and rooted it with it and my device is working like it was with a "untouched" ROM.
That's all I know.
We could wait for a dev to answer deeper questions.
AntiDroid said:
I unlocked my Z1 on .290 - the Sony release which fixed the problem (4.3).
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Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
It is impossible to get the DRM keys back, and there is no gain from relocking without them, all you're doing is locking down the bootloader without enabling BIONZ, etc, but you can certainly run a stock system if you want.
n0bleINtP said:
Yes this absolutely fine and is what I did with my Z1, ie do not unlock until after the 290 update is applied - you will see that advice on the Sony unlock website. However if you want a TA backup you need to do that before unlocking as the unlock process will wipe the keys, and you also need root in order to make that copy. (let me know if I am wrong about that)
My process was to root on earlier firmware, copy the TA, update to .290, then unlock. After unlocking full root on .290 is easy with a custom kernel and everything is good: unlocked, rooted *and* working camera.
But you *will* need a copy of the pre-unlock TA partition to regain any of the functions that use the DRM keys if you decide to relock the bootloader later.
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Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
yanbee said:
Hello, yesterday I downgraded to rooteable 4.2.2 rom in order to backup TA partition. Once I had backup, I updated to 4.3 (290) and unlocked bootloader, then flashed recovery. With recovery was easy to flash superSu. Now I have "stock" rom with root and unlocked bootloader, but I realized that x-reality wasn't warking anymore (because of the DRM keys loss).
I tried to recover TA partition, but I caused a soft-brick, wich I only could solve flashing a 290 ftf through flashtool, but I lost root. My question is: It is possible to have root and DRM keys (TA partition restored)??
Thank you very much.
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No, never.
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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So, apart from losing x-reality and some Sony apps functionalities (which I dont care). Do you lose something else? I heard about losing bionz processor, but camera still works, then I dont know how far this is true.
The incompatibility problem of root and restored TA partition, is because flashing recovery (which modifies kernel) or supersu.apk it self?
Thank you VERY much!
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
Just2Cause said:
You loose bionz, but not x-reality. I unlocked my bootloader and I have x-relity enabled.
Some ROMs won't have working camera, for example: android 4.4 KitKat ported from xperia z ultra GPe, and some other ROMs.
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I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
yanbee said:
I can see that the x-reality option is still on menu, and you can enable/disable it, but it doesn't work. Before, I could see in the first second of picture showing how x-reality improves the image (its an effect that can be seen with the naked eye), this is not happening now. By the way, its for sure that bionz stop working? How could I take pictures without it?
Thank you
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Not sure about bionz, but I guessed it as I had the x-relity option enabled. I can't tell if it works or not as I don't have camera (I'm using ported 4.4)
It would be nice of someone confirmed it.
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
AntiDroid said:
Correct me if i am wrong.
Bionz is a service which improves the pictures after a shot, isn't it ?
Bionz and X-Reality are things u can't detect that easy like "oh that effect is from X-Reality" or something else.
I thought the main reason for not working cameras on other roms was that the dev's didn't apply those 4.3 changes :S
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Bionz it's a image processor that includes xperia Z1, it process the pictures taken instead the cpu. I dont know if it's easy to detect if it's working or not. But in the case of x-reallity it's very simple, when you open a picture in Sony gallery app, you can see how the picture "improves" quality in the first second. It is no so evident in all pictures, but can be detected by a naked eye, as I do.
My only doubt is about bionz processor, I already know that I loss x-reality. But I want to be SURE if bionz processing is also lost. I want to have full root (with unlocked bootloader), and have bionz enabled. I dont care x-reality or Sony apps.
Thank you very much
Just2Cause said:
No, never.
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Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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Are you sure about that? :fingers-crossed:
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I did that and it worked
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Rekoil said:
Not true. If you have a TA backup, install .290, unlock bootloader, install a recovery, root, reflash stock boot partition, restore TA partition, you will end up with a booting, rooted, .290 installation.
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jjpro45 said:
I did that and it worked
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Thank you VERY much!!! Could someone tell me how to reflash boot partition only?? The TA partition which I must restore, could be restored in 290 if backups comes from 534?
Greetings to everyone
I have already unlocked BL & rooted my 4.3 xperia Z1 with CWM recovery installed... the camera and everything works fine
So, how to backup TA, MAC and IMEI with unlocked BL? I want to avoid any furthur losing possibility of them
Sorry If this a repeated question but I have searched a lot before posting this
thank you
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
eclyptos said:
You can't Backup your TA if you Unlocked your Bootloader. You lost your DRM keys permanently. You will not be able to re-lock you bootloader and you are not covered by your warranty. Sorry but you should read carefully before do anything.
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oh.. I hope everything will still fine .. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ?? ... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ??? and what are the risks now ?? what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
thank you
ghostman2 said:
Yeah, too late, you should have done this before the unlock....
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yeah I realize that .. I was on HTC before and I didn't know that the unlock BL is like that in SONY .. it's all my fault
Hani88 said:
oh.. I hope everything will still fine
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Should be all fine but the safest way was backup TA first because if one day happen something on your phone you can't go via warranty.
Hani88 said:
.. but I saw option in flashtool to relock BL.. it won't relock my phone ??
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You still losing your DRM keys so even if he does it's compromise, no x-reality, bionz engine and bravia.
Hani88 said:
... and what is the safe way to update my device firmware when 4.4 kitkat arrives to xperia z1 ???
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This is not a problem, the FTFs will be upload here on XDA like for .290 and Custom Roms as well.
Hani88 said:
and what are the risks now ??
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This is what we said already, the risk is if you brick the phone and the warranty will not cover that.
Hani88 said:
what I must avoid and never do ?? any advices for me ???... sure it's better to stay one 4.3 without root rather than breaking my phone
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You don't have to avoid anything just read carefully everything when you try to do something. My advice is now to wait for the confirmed and safe way to root or update. In your position you already lost the safest way so I will root, update or flash custom roms to enjoy the phone but remember, it's your own risk and responsability.
Ive done the same, came from HTC.....so I will still have all tge features unless I flash say cm11 and try to go back to a Sony based rom?
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Hello!
I've heard somewhere that if I unlock my bootloader that Mobile Bravia Engine won't work, is that true?
Thanks in advance
MARKOZD15 said:
Hello!
I've heard somewhere that if I unlock my bootloader that Mobile Bravia Engine won't work, is that true?
Thanks in advance
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Apparently yes it is
You can preserve your drm key before and restore if ever you return to stock.
Plus if you look in the development section, I believe there is a guide to getting it working on unlocked bootloaders.
Xperia Z
If you havent unlocked your bl yet, you can backup ta partition before proceeding to unlock. After you unlocked you can simply restore ta parititon.
Be aware, for backup you need to be rooted your phone. And rooting not possible without unlocking the bl on the newly versions .569 and .101 (yet)
mzyil said:
If you havent unlocked your bl yet, you can backup ta partition before proceeding to unlock. After you unlocked you can simply restore ta parititon.
Be aware, for backup you need to be rooted your phone. And rooting not possible without unlocking the bl on the newly versions .569 and .101 (yet)
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I have already unlocked my bootloader, can I relock it and do that?
Thanks to everyone
MARKOZD15 said:
I have already unlocked my bootloader, can I relock it and do that?
Thanks to everyone
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If you have unlocked bl nd did not backup ta then there is no chance you can get back drm keys bt there is a way to install bravia engine search in the forum.
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vikash1994b said:
If you have unlocked bl nd did not backup ta then there is no chance you can get back drm keys bt there is a way to install bravia engine search in the forum.
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There's no way to get back my drm keys??
So if my phone broke, I can't relock my booloader and send it to RMA?
MARKOZD15 said:
There's no way to get back my drm keys??
So if my phone broke, I can't relock my booloader and send it to RMA?
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You cant get your drm keya back but you can still relock your bootloader by flashtool
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Just one more question..
If I relock my bootloader, without restoring TA partition (drm keys), will Mobile Bravia Engine 2 still work?
MARKOZD15 said:
Just one more question..
If I relock my bootloader, without restoring TA partition (drm keys), will Mobile Bravia Engine 2 still work?
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No. No DRM keys means no BE2.
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Aaah.. I'm so pissed.. I didn't knew anything about TA partition and drm keys, now I know that I'm gonna read better next time
Thanks to everyone for help and sorry for bad english, I'm from Croatia
Cheers
Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610923
Xperia Z
Although not your original drm keys, the author claims to get Bravia engine 2 working again..
boyob32 said:
Look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2610923
Xperia Z
Although not your original drm keys, the author claims to get Bravia engine 2 working again..
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Worked for me, thanks
What does the functions do that is lost when unlocking the bootloader?
And do they make a big difference to the phones functionality?
As i gather, you lose X-Reality and Bravia Engine functionality.
If you backup your TA I think you could restore them and relock bootloader.
Also if you're on 4.2 you will break your camera. 4.3 and up fixes this problem.
Hit thanks If I helped you
I saw someone post that if you unlock on KK (4.4.2) you wont lose X-Reality and Bravia.
Only the captured images are slightly different...
what is this??
BASHARAWAD said:
what is this??
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Something what you lose when you try to Unlock Your Bootloader.
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Gnubaver said:
And do they make a big difference to the phones functionality?
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No, to me they don't but my only concern is the loss of quality in pictures, this is the only thing which stop me from Unlock my Bootloader.
eclyptos said:
Something what you lose when you try to Unlock Your Bootloader.
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No, to me they don't but my only concern is the loss of quality in pictures, this is the only thing which stop me from Unlock my Bootloader.
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But you can just do a TA Backup?
Tes, but when you restore the TA backup you relock the bootloader...
Gnubaver said:
But you can just do a TA Backup?
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Backup TA is just a Backup of your DRM keys, to not lose them permanently, so one day you want your phone back to Stock you have them and you can restore them BUT they are lost permanently when you Unlock Bootloader and they are not working, this do not effect the functionality of your phone but they affect the quality of your pictures. So apparently something they do.
eclyptos said:
Backup TA is just a Backup of your DRM keys, to not lose them permanently, so one day you want your phone back to Stock you have them and you can restore them BUT they are lost permanently when you Unlock Bootloader and they are not working, this do not effect the functionality of your phone but they affect the quality of your pictures. So apparently something they do.
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Wait a minute, first you say they are not lost permanently by doing a backup, and then you say "you can restore them BUT they are lost permanently when you Unlock Bootloader and they are not working"
wtf?
Gnubaver said:
Wait a minute, first you say they are not lost permanently by doing a backup, and then you say "you can restore them BUT they are lost permanently when you Unlock Bootloader and they are not working"
wtf?
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Just a language barrier I think
You can backup your TA (Which contains the DRM keys)
If you unlock your bootloader you lose DRM keys
If you restore your DRM keys by restoring your TA you relock the bootloader
Basically its not possible to have DRM keys on an unlocked bootloader
Gnubaver said:
Wait a minute, first you say they are not lost permanently by doing a backup, and then you say "you can restore them BUT they are lost permanently when you Unlock Bootloader and they are not working"
wtf?
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Sorry for my bad english,
DRM Keys are lost permanently "when" or "after" Unlocking Bootloader, so they will not work anymore, right? because they are lost. Your phone still working well but something apparently is affected like the Quality of the pictures.
Like @gregbradley said, If you made a Backup TA you can restore them by Relocking Booloader, they are working only with Locked Bootloader.
So why Unlock Bootloader? to flash Custom Roms with Custom Kernels. To get just Root you don't have to do it and Restore TA (Bootloader) can be done on Stock Kernel only if not you can brick your phone.
I hope I clarified.
gregbradley said:
Just a language barrier I think
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..also I wake up few minuts ago...
@Gnubaver I forgot one thing. Losing DRM Keys (Unlocking Bootloader) mean that some features will be affected or not working like BIONZ Processing, X-Reality and Bravia Engine.
Somebody said that after Unlock Bootloader on 4.4 the features still working. On 4.3 with some fix X-Reality is back, ecc...all this was not confirmed yet if it's true but I think many Devs are working on it. For sure there is a lost in Quality on Pictures because of BIONZ Processing, so at the moment I will not recommend to Unlock any Bootloader, if not on your own risk.
Well considering the losses, my bootloader is staying locked
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negrobembon said:
Well considering the losses, my bootloader is staying locked
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Personally I find no difference and think the benefits outway the losses, and I stay on stock based roms.... I just love DooMKerneL to much to not unlock...
gregbradley said:
Personally I find no difference and think the benefits outway the losses, and I stay on stock based roms.... I just love DooMKerneL to much to not unlock...
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Well you got a point
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gregbradley said:
Personally I find no difference and think the benefits outway the losses, and I stay on stock based roms.... I just love DooMKerneL to much to not unlock...
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Exactly what does DoomKernel do for "you" ?
Gnubaver said:
Exactly what does DoomKernel do for "you" ?
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Read the changelog on the doomkernel thread.
gregbradley said:
Read the changelog on the doomkernel thread.
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Yeah i could do that, but my question was directed to you personally, what the kernel does for "YOU". Why you like it so much.
Gnubaver said:
Yeah i could do that, but my question was directed to you personally, what the kernel does for "YOU". Why you like it so much.
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Are you serious?
I like it because of its features, read the DooMKerneL thread to find out what they are! Or do you want me to just copy and paste them here for you!