Possible to downgrade from 4.4? - Moto X Q&A

I'm having significantly worse battery life on 4.4 than I was before I took the OTA. I have r/w but the bootloader is locked. Is there a way to downgrade? I'm not worried about apps/data so if I have to wipe it that's fine.

corywf said:
I'm having significantly worse battery life on 4.4 than I was before I took the OTA. I have r/w but the bootloader is locked. Is there a way to downgrade? I'm not worried about apps/data so if I have to wipe it that's fine.
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Just flash this though RSDlite https://mega.co.nz/#!It8gBaYD!Q2RzzhhCSkzZPy7n4D1BQSUl6OFQUxldiyqqHIMz3PM
thats the way i did it.
remember to erase the line on the XML file

can you flash factory image without unlock bootloader?

keda said:
can you flash factory image without unlock bootloader?
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Yes

PityOnU said:
Yes
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what about flashing Verizon firmware to TMO Moto X? Can you do it without unlocking bootloader?
TMO MotoX doesn't support Chinese language. Thanks for your help.

No.
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[Q] Possible to re-lock bootloader?

Wondering if it's possible to re-lock the bootloader. Would it be the same as a Nexus device?
bootloopz said:
Wondering if it's possible to re-lock the bootloader. Would it be the same as a Nexus device?
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Yes however it will leave the tamper flag and if you used the dev site it will still be logged.
tw1tch175 said:
Yes however it will leave the tamper flag and if you used the dev site it will still be logged.
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I know this is an older post but I've been unable to find the instructions for re-locking the bootloader. Any help would be appreciated.
I had the electrify m, the RAZR m for us cellular, and I unlocked it through Motorola. I was giving it to someone else and wanted to relock it and never found any instructions to do so. I contacted Motorola and they said once it was unlocked the was no way to relock. I would guess it's the same with the moto x.
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fastboot oem lock doesn't work?
It does. Fastboot OEM lock. Just go back to signed software before, m Kay ? Else you won't boot
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I tried it with my electrify m and it wouldn't work.
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https://plus.google.com/110773150384694258853/posts/XUF8UP9iVfi
Here's how from p3droid
tw1tch175 said:
Yes however it will leave the tamper flag and if you used the dev site it will still be logged.
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Has anyone tried re-locking a non-dev Moto X? If so, does it get rid of the "bootloader unlocked, warranty void" message that you get every time u boot ur phone?
mschumacher69 said:
Has anyone tried re-locking a non-dev Moto X? If so, does it get rid of the "bootloader unlocked, warranty void" message that you get every time u boot ur phone?
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Makes no difference, even when you flash the sbf firmware the logo warning still pops up, so you're best just flashing a new logo.bin file . you'll find them in the themes section, fastboot flash logo (name).bin and your done. If you need to rsdlite at any time in the future, just remove the line flash logo bin from the XML file
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flashallthetime said:
Makes no difference, even when you flash the sbf firmware the logo warning still pops up, so you're best just flashing a new logo.bin file . you'll find them in the themes section, fastboot flash logo (name).bin and your done. If you need to rsdlite at any time in the future, just remove the line flash logo bin from the XML file
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Even if u re-lock the bootloader?
bootloopz said:
Wondering if it's possible to re-lock the bootloader. Would it be the same as a Nexus device?
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tw1tch175 said:
Yes however it will leave the tamper flag and if you used the dev site it will still be logged.
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planktoid said:
It does. Fastboot OEM lock. Just go back to signed software before, m Kay ? Else you won't boot
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Has anyone tried re-locking the bootloader of their Moto X??
mschumacher69 said:
Has anyone tried re-locking the bootloader of their Moto X??
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Does not work for me. I get:
No valid PIV block in SP for system
chaoslimits said:
Does not work for me. I get:
No valid PIV block in SP for system
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Did u try re-locking on your model/carrier stock rom, a stock rom from another model/carrier or a custom rom?
Thanks
mschumacher69 said:
Did u try re-locking on your model/carrier stock rom, a stock rom from another model/carrier or a custom rom?
Thanks
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Went back to stock 4.4 via RSD Lite then tried to relock.
chaoslimits said:
Went back to stock 4.4 via RSD Lite then tried to relock.
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Which model/carrier do u have?
mschumacher69 said:
Which model/carrier do u have?
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Vzw Dev Edition
chaoslimits said:
Vzw Dev Edition
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Have u tried this?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
mschumacher69 said:
Have u tried this?
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Yes. That (minus userdata removal) is what RSD Lite does. I tried with fastboot and mfastboot as well.
chaoslimits said:
Yes. That (minus userdata removal) is what RSD Lite does. I tried with fastboot and mfastboot as well.
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Weird. So is ur phone bricked now or it just did not lock?

Is it okay to unlock Bootloader while rooted 4.4 slapmymoto?

I'm currently rooted with 4.4 using the slapmymoto method. I'm ready to void my warranty by unlocking my bootloader via Motorola. Is it recommended to unlock the bootloader the way the phone is set up now, or should I go back to factory 4.4 and then unlock the bootloader? I'm just trying to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Thanks
biggiestuff said:
I'm currently rooted with 4.4 using the slapmymoto method. I'm ready to void my warranty by unlocking my bootloader via Motorola. Is it recommended to unlock the bootloader the way the phone is set up now, or should I go back to factory 4.4 and then unlock the bootloader? I'm just trying to make sure I don't brick my phone.
Thanks
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Doesn't matter how you do it. It will work fine.
Just know that unlocking the bootloader will WIPE YOUR DATA. That means everything that was stored on your SD card is not gone.
zerogun said:
Doesn't matter how you do it. It will work fine.
Just know that unlocking the bootloader will WIPE YOUR DATA. That means everything that was stored on your SD card is not gone.
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Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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biggiestuff said:
Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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That's a good question! What does slapmymoto do to recovery? very curious..
biggiestuff said:
Doesnt slap my moto remove the recovery? So if I unlock the boot loader will it not ve able to wipe and factory reset?
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Humm.... Not really sure. I thought it loaded a modified version of the stock recovery, but with write protection disabled. If this is the case, then it will still wipe your data.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge chimes in. I have not used slapmymoto since I unlocked my bootloader.
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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Dark9781 said:
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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Even though you unlocked nd day rooted on 4.4 do you still have white protection off?
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JGoN86 said:
Even though you unlocked nd day rooted on 4.4 do you still have white protection off?
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Once you unlock your bootloader write protection is disabled.
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Dark9781 said:
Once you unlock your bootloader write protection is disabled.
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Awesome thanks
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Dark9781 said:
SlapMyMoto 1.0 does not touch the recovery. Your recovery is completely stock. MotoWPNoMo disables write protection for the system. I unlocked my bootloader while rooted via SlapMyMoto and retained root so I did not have to flash a custom recovery to gain root. However, there is nothing wrong with playing it safe and flashing back to stock and then you unlocking your bootloader.
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So use rsdlite and flash stock 4.4 and unlock boot loader after ?
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biggiestuff said:
So use rsdlite and flash stock 4.4 and unlock boot loader after ?
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You can if you want to play it safe, but if you are already rooted with SlapMyMoto then you really don't have to. The only issues you may run into is if you modified the system and there is an ota update.
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[Q] factory reset

Do I loose root and does it lock my bootloader again if I factory reset my stock rom?
bravho said:
Do I loose root and does it lock my bootloader again if I factory reset my stock rom?
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The Bootloader unlocked, is to use Custom rom, if you block it, the root and rom stock, will continue.
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bravho said:
Do I loose root and does it lock my bootloader again if I factory reset my stock rom?
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Yes you will lose root. I do not know if it locks the boot loader but if it is unlocked I do not think it would lock. Why are you factory resetting, just out of curiosity?
ardentis said:
Yes you will lose root. I do not know if it locks the boot loader but if it is unlocked I do not think it would lock. Why are you factory resetting, just out of curiosity?
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Maybe I sell the phone at somebody who wants an unlocked bootloader, twrp and root.
bravho said:
Maybe I sell the phone at somebody who wants an unlocked bootloader, twrp and root.
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Alrighty. It may be better if you wipe the phone and then flash the modified stock ROM because it is debloated and you will already have root.
ardentis said:
Alrighty. It may be better if you wipe the phone and then flash the modified stock ROM because it is debloated and you will already have root.
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There is no such rom for d405n (there is one for d405...)
bravho said:
There is no such rom for d405n (there is one for d405...)
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My apologies. I just checked and saw that it was only for the D415. Isn't the only difference between the D405n and the D405 was NFC so couldn't it work?
I doesn't work is said in the thread.

Will unlocking the phone prevent OTA updates?

I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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Your question is not stupid. Yes, you can unlock your boot loader and OTA updates will still install.
you will lose root after OTA
dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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OTA`s can only be installed on a non-modified system, rooting will prevent the OTA to be installed as the system is modified. An unlocked bootloader is no problem. Once you unlocked the BL you can flash the image or OTA yourself in recovery/sideload.
gee2012 said:
OTA`s can only be installed on a non-modified system, rooting will prevent the OTA to be installed as the system is modified. An unlocked bootloader is no problem. Once you unlocked the BL you can flash the image or OTA yourself in recovery/sideload.
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root will still get ota...
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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Yup, but it can not be installed.
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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It won't install. Rooting changes system files. It will fail the check and abort the ota
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dalegg said:
I want to unlock my phone so if and when I root it I won't wipe all my data. Can i unlock the phone, root at a later time and get OTA updates in the interim. I hope this question is not too stupid.
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Unlocking bootloader is not a problem. Locked bootloader is like a locked door of a house and consider root as the person who is supposed to enter to the house but if you open the door and the person doesn't enter into the house then it's not a problem But if there is root, the update will be downloaded but the root will prevent it to get installed Hope it clears your doubts
jedi5diah said:
root will still get ota...
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That *used* to be the case before Lollipop.
How does ota work? Is the update something my telephone provider sends? If so if you are using an unlocked phone on a non provider network what happens
Currently UK vodafone N6 but it wasn't locked so I'm using a three network sim.
leekeene said:
How does ota work? Is the update something my telephone provider sends? If so if you are using an unlocked phone on a non provider network what happens
Currently UK vodafone N6 but it wasn't locked so I'm using a three network sim.
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With a Nexus device or GPE device, all OTA's come direct from Google. With other phones, it's up to the OEM and cell service provider.

Its possible to adb sideload Android M to a completely stock AT&T Moto X XT1095?

Im using an Unrooted completely Stock Android 5.1 AT&T Moto X XT1095 and i really want to have Marshmallow.
Its possible? Thanks
ImBuGs said:
Im using an Unrooted completely Stock Android 5.1 AT&T Moto X XT1095 and i really want to have Marshmallow.
Its possible? Thanks
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Not through sideload no. You can flash it with RSDLite or fastboot, but only if your bootloader is unlocked.
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AGISCI said:
Not through sideload no. You can flash it with RSDLite or fastboot, but only if your bootloader is unlocked.
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The problem is that my bootloader is locked and CANT be unlocked due to at&t (fastboot cant get unlock key)
So I cant install a custom recovery, is there ANY way I can get Android 6?
ImBuGs said:
The problem is that my bootloader is locked and CANT be unlocked due to at&t (fastboot cant get unlock key)
So I cant install a custom recovery, is there ANY way I can get Android 6?
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No.
However you can unlock your bootloader with sunshine. After you unlock it, then you can do it.
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AGISCI said:
No.
However you can unlock your bootloader with sunshine. After you unlock it, then you can do it.
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I know about sunshine but i dont have a credit card much less a PayPal account to pay for it, if there isnt any other way, well i guess i'll wait until i get a new phone. Thanks for your help

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