I have a motox that is bone stock and up to date with the current kitkat OTA's and a locked bootloader. Is there anything out there that will allow me to wifi tether. ...As in, will pwnmymoto or rockmymoto allow me to use a root wifi tether app? I am well aware of foxfi not working on kitkat. So I am exploring my options. I am looking for the best way to do it...if there is one. I remember with my first moto x pwnmymoto wouldn't allow a root wifi app....or at least I couldn't get it to get past the subscription error.
Any suggestions for a write protection / root access method that will allow me to wifi tether. Pdanet is kicking me off of Uplay when trying to download a game, although back before kitkat, foxfi did NOT kick me off when downloading from Uplay.
Yes if you use the Kitkat root message you can use the stock app if you follow the instructions in the apps section. I am using it right now
dustin4863 said:
Yes if you use the Kitkat root message you can use the stock app if you follow the instructions in the apps section. I am using it right now
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Thanks but uuuhhh which method do people prefer for write access? rock or pwn or????
If you're on Kitkat I'd use slapmymoto. If it hasn't changed since I used it you revert to 4.2 root then reflash 4.4 then rerun the xploit then root on 4.4 this is all in the original development section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2449534
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OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
codymoto said:
OK I know pwnmymoto is the current updated root method for the moto x but it is not simply unrooted. RSDlite and flashing is required (sadly I am a noob to this). Mainly doing this to get tethering (unlimited data Verizon plan). Was thinking that I would just install the motoroot app for root instead cause then I can revert back to stock when an ota for the camera comes out with a simple factory reset as the recovery is not modified like in the pwnmymoto app. Is this a correct assumption and a smart way to go about this? Thanks for any info or advice. @jcase
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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If you used motoroot, you can just press the unroot button then uninstall the app
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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@jcase then I assume uninstalling supersu next. Figured I would not need a r/w root as your pwnmymoto if all I will be doing is rocking a tether app. Kind of looking forward to the ota for this dang camera on Verizon.
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If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
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If you stay rooted and wait for the bootstrap, you should be able to flash the updates and keep root. No ETA on the bootstrap though. Jcase has mentioned he doesn't plan on exploiting the update but you never know.
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OK I got ya. So just to clarify for my knowledge. I am safe to install OTA updates because I never messed with the recovery is that correct? And hence why you can't with pwnmymoto as it replaces the recovery. Just new to rooting and am figuring it out as I go a long. I apologize for the stupid questions haha. Soon I will become versed in this but just behind the times (haven't done any modifications like this since the old Xbox modding days).
So gotta thank @jcase for the answers and his old exploit LINK
After installing his motoroot app and then superSU. All I did was install wifi tether and followed the directions posted by @addictedhacks LINK
Happy with this route as it was super simple, did not need a PC, and got me my wifi tether for my verizon phone. The big plus and the reason I went this way was for the ability to unroot without a PC (and I believe no fear of an OTA causing issues if updated), and I really did not need the R/W ability of jcase's pwnmymoto being new to all this rooting. Gotta start somewhere. I figured I would share in case other new people out there are afraid to go forward and maybe this route is a viable option for you. Thanks.
if i update my moto x dev edition will it break foxfi. i see they just updated to 4.4 but im scared to do it hate having to use the bluetooth connection.
trinniboy68 said:
if i update my moto x dev edition will it break foxfi. i see they just updated to 4.4 but im scared to do it hate having to use the bluetooth connection.
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Since you have the developer edition, are you rooted? If so, why not use the stock framework tether? You can use the Xposed module, or the Entitlement Check remover.
Also, if you are rooted, you can use the latest experimental build of WiFi Tether for Root Users.
Is there a specific reason you are wanting to use FoxFi? The only reason I can imagine is that you are not rooted.....but if you aren't rooted, why did you get the Developer Edition?
@trinniboy68,
I agree with @samwathegreat. If you have a Dev Edition, why not unlock your bootloader and root? It doesn't void your warranty on the Dev Edition. And its pretty easy on the Dev Edition.
If you root, and all you want to do is Tether, then to make taking future OTA's easier, I suggest using Wifi Tether For Root app (See my notes about setup at the bootom of THIS PAGE. )
Another option is [APP][MOD][Root]Hotspot Entitlement Bypass v1.1 5/9/2014, but it does make changes to the build.prop, and while it undoes them, I haven't tested to see if it changes the checksum of the build.prop when it reverts its changes(if it does, that would get in the way of future OTA's)
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KidJoe said:
@trinniboy68,
I agree with @samwathegreat. If you have a Dev Edition, why not unlock your bootloader and root? It doesn't void your warranty on the Dev Edition. And its pretty easy on the Dev Edition.
If you root, and all you want to do is Tether, then to make taking future OTA's easier, I suggest using Wifi Tether For Root app (See my notes about setup at the bootom of THIS PAGE. )
Another option is [APP][MOD][Root]Hotspot Entitlement Bypass v1.1 5/9/2014, but it does make changes to the build.prop, and while it undoes them, I haven't tested to see if it changes the checksum of the build.prop when it reverts its changes(if it does, that would get in the way of future OTA's)
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i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3
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i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3
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No 'hacks' for your phone? The entire android SDK is available for MAC. We have several users here who have flashed their phones 100% with MAC.
If you download the MAC Toolkit, it includes everything you need, even though it isn't supported by its devs anymore. You just won't use any of the scripts (that's all that no longer supported). Also, since you have the DEV edition, you WON'T lose your warranty by rooting it. It's HIGHLY unlikely you will brick your phone unless you do something totally stupid that is well documented here (like: you NEVER downgrade or flash older firmwares/versions on your Moto X - this is one of the few ways you can brick it).
Since you have already unlocked the BL, all you would do is fastboot flash TWRP recovery, and it will root for you. Then you can use either method that @KidJoe and I have suggested for you. There honestly isn't much at all you can mess up.
Additionally, once you install TWRP, you can take a full backup that you could restore in the event of a problem. PLUS the SBF images are available, so even without a backup your phone could still be restored back to stock.
trinniboy68 said:
i have an unlocked bootloader. havent rooted yet cause i like the features of the moto are there roms that will dupl. the stock moto. i have verizon unlimited internet so need the ability to wifi link to my computer. as i am on the road a lot and its more secure to use my own wifi than someone elses. having a mac there arent any hacks for my phone, the one i did find the dev. isnt supporting it yet and bricking my phone i cant take right now as im fairly new to this. i rooted my s3
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Some of these sentences run together, so If I miss anything, I'm sorry.
Rooting wont remove any features of the stock Moto roms. As far as "other roms" duplicating stock, I haven't run anything but the stock rom. While there are "alternates" (like CM) if they are NOT based on stock, they will not have the Moto specific features like active display, always on listening (OK google now....), etc.
I have unlimited data too. I purchased the Dev X since I was going to have to buy an X at full retail because I wanted to keep my Unlimited (and be able to root without waiting on vulnerabilities/exploits).
All I've done is unlocked the bootloader, to root I just flashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738 although the TWRP and SuperSU versions linked are a little out of date now, they still work on 4.4 and 4.4.2). Then I use Wifi Tether for Root as mentioned earlier, greenify, Root Explorer, Quick Boot (reboot), Adree and not really much else that needs root, and no extra tweaks/hacks. In other words, I run stock, but rooted, with a few apps that need ROOT access, and nothing else modified on my phone.
The tools to flash the stock SBF files are RSDLite and mFastboot. Rsdlite is a GUI tool that flashes the full SBF/XML file, all commands, in like a batch mode. mFastboot is a command line tool that allows you to flash parts/pieces one at a time. I don't know if there is an RSDlite for Mac OS, but there is an mFastboot. So if you mess your phone up badly enough, you can usually recover with the stock images. (the only note being DO NOT DOWNGRADE your ROM!! for more see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm )
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KidJoe said:
Some of these sentences run together, so If I miss anything, I'm sorry.
Rooting wont remove any features of the stock Moto roms. As far as "other roms" duplicating stock, I haven't run anything but the stock rom. While there are "alternates" (like CM) if they are NOT based on stock, they will not have the Moto specific features like active display, always on listening (OK google now....), etc.
I have unlimited data too. I purchased the Dev X since I was going to have to buy an X at full retail because I wanted to keep my Unlimited (and be able to root without waiting on vulnerabilities/exploits).
All I've done is unlocked the bootloader, to root I just flashed TWRP recovery, and installed SuperSU (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738 although the TWRP and SuperSU versions linked are a little out of date now, they still work on 4.4 and 4.4.2). Then I use Wifi Tether for Root as mentioned earlier, greenify, Root Explorer, Quick Boot (reboot), Adree and not really much else that needs root, and no extra tweaks/hacks. In other words, I run stock, but rooted, with a few apps that need ROOT access, and nothing else modified on my phone.
The tools to flash the stock SBF files are RSDLite and mFastboot. Rsdlite is a GUI tool that flashes the full SBF/XML file, all commands, in like a batch mode. mFastboot is a command line tool that allows you to flash parts/pieces one at a time. I don't know if there is an RSDlite for Mac OS, but there is an mFastboot. So if you mess your phone up badly enough, you can usually recover with the stock images. (the only note being DO NOT DOWNGRADE your ROM!! for more see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Downgrade.htm )
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thank you for the info
I'm strongly considering switching from Tmo to RW to save some money. I have the S4 currently, which is feature packed but just feels like a llittle kids phone. Since RWs version of the Moto X uses proprietary software for wifi calling, has this made rooting the device difficult in any way? If I want to run stock android but have root access with the X on RW will I have any difficulty or limitations/
Also, I tether occasionally, maybe once every few weeks when I'm on the go and want to use my Nexus 10 and there's no wifi around. I know RW opposes tethering. How likely are they to go after someone who tethers if they stay well below their monthly data? Have any of you heard back from them after tethering? And does androids built in tethering feature/app work once rooted, or will I have to use a third party tethering app?
Thanks.
legato89 said:
I'm strongly considering switching from Tmo to RW to save some money. I have the S4 currently, which is feature packed but just feels like a llittle kids phone. Since RWs version of the Moto X uses proprietary software for wifi calling, has this made rooting the device difficult in any way? If I want to run stock android but have root access with the X on RW will I have any difficulty or limitations/
Also, I tether occasionally, maybe once every few weeks when I'm on the go and want to use my Nexus 10 and there's no wifi around. I know RW opposes tethering. How likely are they to go after someone who tethers if they stay well below their monthly data? Have any of you heard back from them after tethering? And does androids built in tethering feature/app work once rooted, or will I have to use a third party tethering app?
Thanks.
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YES! I'm on RW with unlocked bootloader (thanks middleman), and the WiFi tether app works perfectly (NO native/built-in tether ability on the RW variant). If you unlock your bootloader (see the China Middleman Back??) thread in the general sub-forum. let me know and I'll link you to the appropriate instructions.
I don't know if this will work with tethered root (PIE), but I doubt it. I only KNOW that it works if you have unlocked bootloader.
Additionally, the tether app I refer to "hides" tether usage, so likely they will assume you are using that data on the device itself. I've had no issues, but stay WELL within the 5GB limit (rarely exceed 2GB).
Good Luck
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YES! I'm on RW with unlocked bootloader (thanks middleman), and the WiFi tether app works perfectly (NO native/built-in tether ability on the RW variant). If you unlock your bootloader (see the China Middleman Back??) thread in the general sub-forum. let me know and I'll link you to the appropriate instructions.
I don't know if this will work with tethered root (PIE), but I doubt it. I only KNOW that it works if you have unlocked bootloader.
Additionally, the tether app I refer to "hides" tether usage, so likely they will assume you are using that data on the device itself. I've had no issues, but stay WELL within the 5GB limit (rarely exceed 2GB).
Good Luck
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Thanks for your reply. The tethering/mobile hotspot is completely removed from the Moto X RW ROM if I'm understanding you correctly then?
Which tethering app do you use? and please do link me to the instructions you used. Does OTA updating still work when you unlock the bootloader and apply root?
legato89 said:
Thanks for your reply. The tethering/mobile hotspot is completely removed from the Moto X RW ROM if I'm understanding you correctly then?
Which tethering app do you use? and please do link me to the instructions you used. Does OTA updating still work when you unlock the bootloader and apply root?
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OTA updating will stop working at the point you flash a custom recovery (which is required to root). You can cross that bridge when a new OTA comes out, as we will no doubt have to advise countless people on what steps to take to be able to accept the OTA. Basically it involves disabling any modifications made to /system, disabling Xposed (if installed), and flashing back STOCK RECOVERY. Being unlocked has no affect on being able to accept the OTA.
Here is the relevant thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/solved-republic-wireless-unlocked-t2755730
Be sure to use the specific wifi-tether app listed in POST # 2 in that thread. You'll notice that it didn't work for me until I did a complete return-to-stock for unknown issues. The built-in hotspot feature has somehow been disabled by RW, and attempting to use it results in the RW app immediately "stealing" back WiFi, and a message saying something to the effect of "WTF? The phone just stole back WiFi access" appears on the screen LOL! Neither the Xposed module or the entitlement bypass worked for me, with any of the options (including the Sprint-specific build.prop tweak).
PLUS, native tether does NOT 'HIDE' usage, so they might know you are indeed tethering!!! I don't suggest trying...
Good Luck, let me know if you have additional questions.
I got my Moto X a few days ago and I'm very impressed. Republic has the 30 day trial period, but I'm more 90% sure I'm sticking with it, but if I do want to return it, can I unroot/lock the bootloader? Will they check to see if it has been rooted?
Are these the instructions I should follow? I'm on 4.2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-republic-wireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233
You can always flash back to stock but you can never return the phone to its locked bootloader state. It would read "relocked" and not "locked"
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I am getting of very good price on a Moto X from AT&T. I plan to unlock it for use in Canada.
I am wondering if tethering / wifi hotspot will be available ? since the bootloader is not unlockable and even rooting might be impossible depending on what android version it comes with, i'm worried i might be stuck with it. and the wifi hotspot is a must for me.
any help would be appreciated.
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armrob said:
I am getting of very good price on a Moto X from AT&T. I plan to unlock it for use in Canada.
I am wondering if tethering / wifi hotspot will be available ? since the bootloader is not unlockable and even rooting might be impossible depending on what android version it comes with, i'm worried i might be stuck with it. and the wifi hotspot is a must for me.
any help would be appreciated.
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i don't know what ATT's policy is but if you're on a tiered data plan through VZW, tethering is enabled by default.
If you're running 4.4 you're golden can permanent root and disable write protection using slapmymoto, I did it with the toolkit, you can find it here, send me a pm if you need help. If you're on 4.4.2 you can use towelPie to root and the entitlement hack linked below the towelPie root link. I have a moto x verizon locked boot on 4.4.2 and have towelPie set to root at reboot and works flawlessly, but beware verizon is sending 4.4.4 to phones starting today, I got the update downloaded it just to see which update it was and than quickly opened FX explorer and went to the root cache folder and sent it to outerspace LOL and than went to the root/system/pri-apps folder and deleted the 3c_OTA.apk and 3c_OTA.odex files so it wouldn't ever download it again.. beware each time you rebooot you must redelete those two files since towelPie is only good til the next reboot.
After rooting with towelPie than run the entitlement hack linked below.. the dev has set it up to run at reboot, but it doesn't work currently with the 4.4.2 combo using towelPie, towelPie does run and root automatically at each reboot but the entitlement hack is running at the same time during boot and it tries to do its thing before towelPie has done its thing LOL and fails. the solution is easy just run it manually after each boot. works like a charm.
Edit: I have wrote the developer and he has informed me he is going to fix the entitlement hack by placing a time delay in the app so it gives towelPie time to finish root first, so just keep a lookout for his vers. 1.3 in the entitlement hack thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/root-towelpieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-hotspot-entitlement-bypass-v1-1-5-9-t2705152
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If you're running 4.4 you're golden can permanent root and disable write protection using slapmymoto, I did it with the toolkit, you can find it here, send me a pm if you need help. If you're on 4.4.2 you can use towelPie to root and the entitlement hack linked below the towelPie root link. I have a moto x verizon locked boot on 4.4.2 and have towelPie set to root at reboot and works flawlessly, but beware verizon is sending 4.4.4 to phones starting today, I got the update downloaded it just to see which update it was and than quickly opened FX explorer and went to the root cache folder and sent it to outerspace LOL and than went to the root/system/pri-apps folder and deleted the 3c_OTA.apk and 3c_OTA.odex files so it wouldn't ever download it again.. beware each time you rebooot you must redelete those two files since towelPie is only good til the next reboot.
After rooting with towelPie than run the entitlement hack linked below.. the dev has set it up to run at reboot, but it doesn't work currently with the 4.4.2 combo using towelPie, towelPie does run and root automatically at each reboot but the entitlement hack is running at the same time during boot and it tries to do its thing before towelPie has done its thing LOL and fails. the solution is easy just run it manually after each boot. works like a charm.
Edit: I have wrote the developer and he has informed me he is going to fix the entitlement hack by placing a time delay in the app so it gives towelPie time to finish root first, so just keep a lookout for his vers. 1.3 in the entitlement hack thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/root-towelpieroot-motorola-devices-t2825059
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-hotspot-entitlement-bypass-v1-1-5-9-t2705152
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OK, perfet. I will try that.
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armrob said:
OK, perfet. I will try that.
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and by the way you have to check the option to run those apps at reboot they're not automatically set to do it.
Hey all,
As the title aludes to, I'm totally lost with rooting my note 3 running 4.4.4. I've been pokling around this site for a few hours but I'm not really seeing what I need. Basically all I want to do is be able to tether my note 3 (it's SIM unlocked on an african Carrier,. the phone is from at&t originally though). As I understand it, i need to root my phone in order to use this feature (f*ck AT&T). Anyway, I did use the search but I can't find any info on rooting a phone that is already on 4.4.4. Do i need to downgrade or is there an a way to root 4.4.4. In any case could someone give me a full step by step or point me in the right direction? I hate to be that guy posting duplicate threads but I'm kinda stuck. Sorry/thanks in advance.
Andre... said:
Hey all,
As the title aludes to, I'm totally lost with rooting my note 3 running 4.4.4. I've been pokling around this site for a few hours but I'm not really seeing what I need. Basically all I want to do is be able to tether my note 3 (it's SIM unlocked on an african Carrier,. the phone is from at&t originally though). As I understand it, i need to root my phone in order to use this feature (f*ck AT&T). Anyway, I did use the search but I can't find any info on rooting a phone that is already on 4.4.4. Do i need to downgrade or is there an a way to root 4.4.4. In any case could someone give me a full step by step or point me in the right direction? I hate to be that guy posting duplicate threads but I'm kinda stuck. Sorry/thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the forum.
No, there's no way to root 4.4.4 that I know of yet, you have to install 4.4.2, root it, flash a 4.4.4 that won't kill your data, then it should be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117 are the 4.4.2 (NC2) files. I don't have a link to the 4.4.4 files handy, but I'm sure they're in the development subforum. (You want the 4 separate files, not the all-in-one, so your data doesn't get overwritten - in both cases.) Get into 4.4.2, root with https://towelroot.com/ then go back to 4.4.4 (if you want - I'm still running 4.4.2, so I don't have to reflash kernels to get into SafeStrap; Mobile Odin doesn't work on the Note 3 yet, and I don't want to carry a laptop around in my pocket).
I think.
I went round and round with different ROMs all last week, reflashing 4.4.2 after each one, rooting, installing SafeStrap, restoring my data, etc., etc., until I can't remember exactly what the exact steps are, but I think I got it right.
And there are a few threads her on how to root 4.4.4 - with downgrading to 4.4.2, or just flashing the 4.4.2 kernel, or something.
But no, you can't directly root 4.4.4 yet.
As for tethering, see if there's a tethering app that will work without rooting, or just go to Settings/Connections and enable Tethering and see if that works. If it does, there's no reason to go through all the trouble of rooting (which is terrifying the first time you do it - and boring by the 10th).
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Welcome to the forum.
No, there's no way to root 4.4.4 that I know of yet, you have to install 4.4.2, root it, flash a 4.4.4 that won't kill your data, then it should be rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/general/n900aucucnc2-odin-files-t2838117 are the 4.4.2 (NC2) files. I don't have a link to the 4.4.4 files handy, but I'm sure they're in the development subforum. (You want the 4 separate files, not the all-in-one, so your data doesn't get overwritten - in both cases.) Get into 4.4.2, root with https://towelroot.com/ then go back to 4.4.4 (if you want - I'm still running 4.4.2, so I don't have to reflash kernels to get into SafeStrap; Mobile Odin doesn't work on the Note 3 yet, and I don't want to carry a laptop around in my pocket).
I think.
I went round and round with different ROMs all last week, reflashing 4.4.2 after each one, rooting, installing SafeStrap, restoring my data, etc., etc., until I can't remember exactly what the exact steps are, but I think I got it right.
And there are a few threads her on how to root 4.4.4 - with downgrading to 4.4.2, or just flashing the 4.4.2 kernel, or something.
But no, you can't directly root 4.4.4 yet.
As for tethering, see if there's a tethering app that will work without rooting, or just go to Settings/Connections and enable Tethering and see if that works. If it does, there's no reason to go through all the trouble of rooting (which is terrifying the first time you do it - and boring by the 10th).
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Thanks for the info! I'll give it a try once I get home. Unfortunatly there's no way to tether on an unrooted unless at&t allows it (that I know of). And at&t cant allow it since I don't have them as a carrier right now. I've trid a couple apps from the appstore already and they either try to carrier verify or it's just a widget of the phones tethering function. I don't particularly care about flashing custom roms so if there's a way to tether in my situation then I'd love to try.