Two days ago I purchased the Z1 from a local retailer (Tel Aviv, Israel), not realizing that it was the C6902.
The problem is that its customization version is 1278-3595_R1A (software: 1272-6084_13.1.G.2.257.)
I hadn't realized that .257 cannot be rooted prior to updating to it because the OS prompted me to shortly after I first booted it up, so I was hoping to downgrade to .535, root, and update it to 4.3, and then install a custom ROM.
However, I gather from the thread with all the FTF collections (here) that no customization versions of 1278-3595_R1A exists. Does this meant that I can neither root nor install a custom OS?
(why I figured this is important: here.)
In conclusion, I assume that C9603 will get better and quicker dev support, so should I return my current C9602 and purchase the C9603 online (Ebay) while I still can?
Bonus question: why the hell does the C6902 even exists if it's just the C6903 without the LTE? Better to have it and not use it -- no?
(Note: LTE, or any form of 4G networks, including WiMix, is and will be unavailable here in Israel for the foreseeable future - at least to the general public.)
Thank you.
Just noticed that the title should be "C6903 vs. C6902 + Customization Version". I mistakenly misplaced the two digits in C6903.
Even ordering online has some problems. but any replacement to your phone is better!
Regards,
~J2C
Just2Cause said:
Even ordering online has some problems. but any replacement to your phone is better!
Regards,
~J2C
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Better in what regard?
Agoneous said:
Better in what regard?
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you cant downgrade or root?
Just2Cause said:
you cant downgrade or root?
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That's what I'm unsure of - hence the pilgrimage for confirmation of my as of yet unverified findings thus far.
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That's what I'm unsure of - hence the pilgrimage for confirmation of my as of yet unverified findings thus far.
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You can flash ANY C6902 firmware.
I thought that there is something wrong preventing you from flashing another firmware ftf on your phone.
Regards,
~J2C
Just2Cause said:
You can flash ANY C6902 firmware.
I thought that there is something wrong preventing you from flashing another firmware ftf on your phone.
Regards,
~J2C
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Ah, then it seems I misunderstood where the different variations stand in terms of compatibility. I'll be installing the IN version soon and see how things go.
Thank you for the clarification.
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Can someone who has an unbranded Xperia Z with UK FW please dump/create a FTF and post the ROM here?
The only generic FW posted here is from a demo device unfortunately.
Thanks.
I got mine from Carphone Warehouse earlier today and I haven't touched it yet so I might be able to help. Not sure how to make a ftf from it though..
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Have you Tickled Your Android lately?
(tinyurl.com/ticklemyandroid)
That'd be awesome though it's a bit of work...
The basic instructions are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27031352
Note that doing this WILL re-flash your phone (because the update can't be stopped after it has downloaded) so you may not want to go ahead.
You will also need to use the beta Flashtool for Xperia Z to actually decrypt the files. Then you can load them up in full Flashtool and proceed to make FTF out of it (I think, didn't do this myself, I stopped after decrypting them).
I would suggest not doing this if you're not tech savvy.
+1 for this, im expecting mine to be vodafone branded, that'll annoy me pretty quickly!
frankie99969 said:
+1 for this, im expecting mine to be vodafone branded, that'll annoy me pretty quickly!
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In the meantime you can safely flash the French generic firmware posted here. It's full-retail and I've been using it. As all firmwares in this part of the world are multilingual anyway there isn't much difference.
But yeah, UK FW would be nice...
Question: if I flash non-branded firmware (French for example) and then use Sony Update Service to re-install my firmware, which firmware will it download? French unbranded? The branded one I had before from my carrier? UK unbranded?
lloydbf said:
In the meantime you can safely flash the French generic firmware posted here. It's full-retail and I've been using it. As all firmwares in this part of the world are multilingual anyway there isn't much difference.
But yeah, UK FW would be nice...
Question: if I flash non-branded firmware (French for example) and then use Sony Update Service to re-install my firmware, which firmware will it download? French unbranded? The branded one I had before from my carrier? UK unbranded?
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It will read your current version, so if you flashed french, SUS would give you french
lloydbf said:
That'd be awesome though it's a bit of work...
The basic instructions are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27031352
Note that doing this WILL re-flash your phone (because the update can't be stopped after it has downloaded) so you may not want to go ahead.
You will also need to use the beta Flashtool for Xperia Z to actually decrypt the files. Then you can load them up in full Flashtool and proceed to make FTF out of it (I think, didn't do this myself, I stopped after decrypting them).
I would suggest not doing this if you're not tech savvy.
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frankie99969 said:
+1 for this, im expecting mine to be vodafone branded, that'll annoy me pretty quickly!
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Looks simple enough. I'll have a look at doing this in a little while. At the moment, I'm just doing some modding of SystemUI which I'll post about when I'm done. Then I can sort this out for you.
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lloydbf said:
Note that doing this WILL re-flash your phone (because the update can't be stopped after it has downloaded)
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Wrong. Simply unplug after the download is complete and your device will remain untouched.
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Question: if I flash non-branded firmware (French for example) and then use Sony Update Service to re-install my firmware, which firmware will it download?
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It re-downloads the currently running one. If you already reflashed the phone and didnt note down your SI you may never go fully back to stock if you cant find the FTF of the exact firmware you were originally running.
Posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38678748#post38678748
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Posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38678748#post38678748
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awesome
I have my new XZ in my hands and it is a lovely phone.
It is currently on build number .350 - I've been looking at the tutorials and it looks like I need to upgrade to .434, root, then flash a rooted rom based on 253.
This XZ is a Three UK locked handset with Bootloader Unlock Allowed:No. My question is - do I need to flash .434 specific to Three UK or can I flash an Unbranded one?
Or failing that - does Onw Click Root or similar work on .253?
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My question is - do I need to flash .434 specific to Three UK or can I flash an Unbranded one?
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Flash whichever, and questions like this can be posted on the threads you've already read, with 500+ post you should know that already.
Apologies if any offence was caused. Thanks for your reply.
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Apologies if any offence was caused.
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None at all.
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Thanks for your reply.
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To clarify, it's irrelevant really what you flash in that respect, and no there isn't a one click solution at the moment. I've stuck on 434 and just flashed the 253 kernel, which has updated the display.
When will the 4.2.2 update be released in the UK? Seems like it's been out for a while, yet my phone still hasn't found the update using either OTA or with PC Companion on my laptop.
We don't have the insight to say. Nobody has. And no crystal balls.
4.2.2 has been out for a few days only and is clearly rolling out across the piste.
Just wait patiently or use one of the other Generic ones if you're really that desperate. They're all basically the same apart from minor app differences.
I think Vodafone has released it someone on another forum updated his to 422 via Sony bridge on a Mac.
Never.... (joking)
Considering we were left out of the last few updates wouldn't surprise me if we are the last to get this one.
So I would guess a month
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I got the update yesterday on Vodafone UK
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Any splash screens on this firmware. Also do you have the FTF ?
Thanks
My phone didnt alert me but using PCC identified and upgraded last night. On VF UK branded handset
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My phone didnt alert me but using PCC identified and upgraded last night
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You have a UK unbranded device? Customisation number 1270-7689? Or some other UK device?
Not booting up my PC to find out if this is true or not, as other methods of checking are still showing 434 as the latest available for UK unbranded.
Edit: I see you edited your post. Yes, most are aware that Vodafone have updated
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You have a UK unbranded device? Customisation number 1270-7689? Or some other UK device?
Not booting up my PC to find out if this is true or not, as other methods of checking are still showing 434 as the latest available for UK unbranded.
Edit: I see you edited your post. Yes, most are aware that Vodafone have updated
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Mines was a VF UK handset upgrade - so branded to them. The phone itself didn't report any system/software upgrades, but as soon as I ran up PCC and plugged it in, PCC kicked off the upgrade.
Just use the Sony original Japanese update it doesn't change the language or anything and everything works out is the official Sony update and u just flash it with a flash tool no wipe of data or anything and u can easily root it with doomlords rooting method. It's a one click root.
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Just change to a different generic customization. Some people seem to think that there is something special about UK firmware, but that isn't true at all (except that it seems to get updated last). All customizations contain the same baseband, kernel and core. The only difference is the bundled apps, build.prop and some overlays. I think 'Generic ES' is the best customization to change to. It contains all Sony apps (so you won't lose Video Unlimited or anything), of course it also contains all languages and it seems to get updates first.
Also, please stop asking when an update for a certain customization will be released. Nobody will be able to tell you, so it's completely useless to ask. There are ways enough to check the latest version for your customization. I have a list that I update daily or even multiple times a day, you can also create a browser bookmark to Sony's Firmware Update Server (see same thread) or you can use this web check: http://scavenger.ch/sonyupdate/.
Don't worry, it should come sometime this decade...we might even get the firmware update that everyone else has had for 2 months before 2017...wouldn't that be great?
murrayalex said:
Don't worry, it should come sometime this decade...we might even get the firmware update that everyone else has had for 2 months before 2017...wouldn't that be great?
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Instead of waiting weeks/months/ages and complaining, just change to a different firmware customization like everyone else did. What are you scared of? There's always the possibility of changing back to 'Generic UK'.
dante501 said:
Just use the Sony original Japanese update it doesn't change the language or anything and everything works out is the official Sony update and u just flash it with a flash tool
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Where can I find the Sony original Japanese update ftf?
Thanks
tonylee2000 said:
Where can I find the Sony original Japanese update ftf?
Thanks
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That doesn't exist. In Japan, the Xperia Z was only available through the carrier NTT DoCoMo, which had a slightly different version with a different model number (SO-02E).
Check this list for the available customizations: [INFO] Latest firmware version per customization (region/branding). For the UK, I would recommend 'Generic ES'.
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Instead of waiting weeks/months/ages and complaining, just change to a different firmware customization like everyone else did. What are you scared of? There's always the possibility of changing back to 'Generic UK'.
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I have xperia z hspa , and I don't want to change the customization , can I flash the TW one ?? or is there any other options for the c6602 ?
hamud.q said:
I have xperia z hspa , and I don't want to change the customization , can I flash the TW one ?? or is there any other options for the c6602 ?
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Downloading the 'Generic TW' FTF and flashing it with Flashtool, or changing your customization number in build.prop and updating with Sony PC Companion will give exactly the same result. 'Generic TW' is the only customization that has been updated for C6602. It also seems to get updates first each time. So I recommend to use that firmware.
I will sell my XZ and buy Galaxy S4 i think, its not about changing customization etc it shows how Sony treat UK customers...
qucharski said:
I will sell my XZ and buy Galaxy S4 i think, its not about changing customization etc it shows how Sony treat UK customers...
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Good luck with your (plastic) Galaxy S4 (with ugly *** TouchWiz) then. Hopefully Samsung will release updates faster to the UK
Do you really care so much about the 'Generic UK' customization? It's not like it contains any special features that can't be found in other customizations.
tonylee2000 said:
Where can I find the Sony original Japanese update ftf?
Thanks
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here you go download the whole thing unzip it flash with flashtool and ur done then use doomlord rooting and done
rom ftf https://uhub.netvigator.com/web/quickshare_filedownload.html#IaThdlku8TwZiL32NjkSjn34s::
doomlord root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327472
Hi,
Does anyone has UK generic 1276-0471 FTF? Any versions is fine as I need to flash it before I send my phone for warranty claim.
Thanks,
C
You will find it in Mega Collection.
I can't find it there.
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Yeah, I did the same thing. The correct customisation number is 1276-0875, 1276-0471 is one of the colour codes, I think it denotes black. You should have checked the service menu by entering *#*#7378423#*#* into the dailer. Read through the sticky threads for a full explanation.
Thanks for the useful advice! I can't check it anymore because I have flashed it to Nordic version but I think you are right.
And what for you want to stick with one specific customization, this is useless!
If you want to send it back to Service just flash any Stock Generic UK FTF from mega Collection, even the older once, done.
I am afraid that there are more than one UK generic FTFs and the one I have is not what tied to my IMEI. As simple as that but it looks like I think too much.
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I am afraid that there are more than one UK generic FTFs and the one I have is not what tied to my IMEI. As simple as that but it looks like I think too much.
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Yes, you think too much. I flashed Nordic Update via flashtool long time ago and I send it to Repair and I had no problem with the service if you still Stock.
cklow01 said:
Thanks for the useful advice! I can't check it anymore because I have flashed it to Nordic version but I think you are right.
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I think you will find the service menu is available in the Nordic version.
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I think you will find the service menu is available in the Nordic version.
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I mean since I have flashed it I won't be able to see the original custom ID anymore.
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I am afraid that there are more than one UK generic FTFs and the one I have is not what tied to my IMEI. As simple as that but it looks like I think too much.
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Good point about the service menu. My bad.
I use an IMEI checker when I buy phones, it is on an Australian website, it works fine.
If you intent on returning the phone for repair, just flash .518 (1276-0875_R8A), that is the one my phone came with originally.
If you are starting down the rooting/custom ROM path, flash .534 (1276-0875_R9A).
They are both in the mega collection.
gandalf_grey91 said:
Good point about the service menu. My bad.
I use an IMEI checker when I buy phones, it is on an Australian website, it works fine.
If you intent on returning the phone for repair, just flash .518 (1276-0875_R8A), that is the one my phone came with originally.
If you are starting down the rooting/custom ROM path, flash .534 (1276-0875_R9A).
They are both in the mega collection.
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Thanks for your help. I have flashed it to the latest UK generic KitKat just now and it should be fine for warranty claim I guess.
Hi All,
I have purchased a Z3+ in the UK on contract through O2, and am quite frankly sick of the O2 branding on it, as well as having to wait longer after Android Updates are released.
Where can I download a stock Z3+ Android version, and flash it into my device without rooting/unlocking and loosing any features or voiding my warranty?
Thanks in advance! :good:
Cheers,
Seb
Because there are plenty of howtos on every android related site the answer is short: Get Flashtool and XperiFirm.
With XperiFirm you can download an unbranded firmware and with Flashtool you can flash it to your device. No root, etc. required. The firmwares you download with XperiFirm are downloaded directly from Sony servers and no data is modified/added; the original files just get decrypted and repacked in a new and easy to handle format (one FTF file).
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Because there are plenty of howtos on every android related site the answer is short: Get Flashtool and XperiFirm.
With XperiFirm you can download an unbranded firmware and with Flashtool you can flash it to your device. No root, etc. required. The firmwares you download with XperiFirm are downloaded directly from Sony servers and no data is modified/added; the original files just get decrypted and repacked in a new and easy to handle format (one FTF file).
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Thanks a LOT an3k, much appreciated.
Since I am running Mac, I won't be able to use XperiFirm I'm afraid, but Flashtool works! Do you know if anyone has made the appropriate Firmware available for the X3+, even if it is slightly outdated (i.e. 5.0.1 - can update via Playstore later, no?)?
Thanks,
Seb
TinXpH said:
Do you know if anyone has made the appropriate Firmware available for the X3+, even if it is slightly outdated (i.e. 5.0.1 - can update via Playstore later, no?)?
Thanks,
Seb
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See here:
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TinXpH said:
Thanks a LOT an3k, much appreciated.
Since I am running Mac, I won't be able to use XperiFirm I'm afraid, but Flashtool works! Do you know if anyone has made the appropriate Firmware available for the X3+, even if it is slightly outdated (i.e. 5.0.1 - can update via Playstore later, no?)?
Thanks,
Seb
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You're welcome. I just got my Z3+ today but have plenty of experience with the Z2.
For the Z2 there was a stick thread that collected all the FTF files created by users and there is one (not sticky yet) for the Z3+ but it's not that well maintained and supported as the Z2 one was. In fact it only lists Asian firmwares and those are all branded.
I'll download the most recent unbranded UK firmware, create a FTF and upload it to Google Drive so you can use that one. Should be there in ~30 minutes.
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...there is one (not sticky yet) for the Z3+ but it's not that well maintained and supported as the Z2 one was. In fact it only lists Asian firmwares and those are all branded.
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In the thread I mentioned, it includes the Customized UK firmware (1295-7703). But it's the older version. Anyways, might be good for you to download the latest .24 and then share the link here.
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In the thread I mentioned, it includes the Customized UK firmware (1295-7703). But it's the older version. Anyways, might be good for you to download the latest .24 and then share the link here.
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Oh, you're absolutely right. I thought all these versions are for the asian provider "ChoiMobile" but after taking a closer look I saw it's a forum
The latest for UK is E6553_28.0.A.7.27_1295-7703_R6A.ftf which I'm currently uploading.
I'm surprised that the Z2 already got Android 5.1.1 (yesterday) but the Z3+ is still on 5.0.2
Wow thanks a lot for all this, much appreciated!
The firmware you're uploading, that's the untouched UK firmware I can flash straight away via flashtool?
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Oh, you're absolutely right. I thought all these versions are for the asian provider "ChoiMobile" but after taking a closer look I saw it's a forum
The latest for UK is E6553_28.0.A.7.27_1295-7703_R6A.ftf which I'm currently uploading.
I'm surprised that the Z2 already got Android 5.1.1 (yesterday) but the Z3+ is still on 5.0.2
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I didn't realise there are 2 UK firmwares that are on the newer .27 firmware. Most other firmwares are on the .24. Wonder what's the difference?
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The firmware you're uploading, that's the untouched UK firmware I can flash straight away via flashtool?
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Yes, you just have to activate one checkbox but everything is simple. I'll write down the things you have to take care about together with the download link once the upload is done.
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I didn't realise there are 2 UK firmwares that are on the newer .27 firmware. Most other firmwares are on the .24. Wonder what's the difference?
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Good question! Haven't seen any changelog yet!
Is .27 even official yet? Should be!