Hi guys,
I got a used Xperia Z1 that came rooted but with stock rom. That said, I have no way to know if the owner previously installed other stuff on it.
I mainly want to make sure that BIONZ (the camera engine) still works fine and enhances my images. I currently have .257 installed and the camera works fine. AFAIK the bootloader is locked - I manage to back up TA so that means it was there to be backed up.
Still, I'm not sure whether or not this BIONZ thing is working. I wanna be sure I'm getting the max quality out of my camera. Any idea how I can test it, toggle it?
If the bootloader unlock the camera simply won't work, ao if it do work you are fine.
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I will ask also here, because I will get my Z1 soon. If I unlock DRM keys are deleted, so Camera stops, I can put back the keys correct? But does the camera still doesn´t work under CM for excample?`(Even after Sony fixes the DRM problem, if ever..)
Qefx said:
I will ask also here, because I will get my Z1 soon. If I unlock DRM keys are deleted, so Camera stops, I can put back the keys correct? But does the camera still doesn´t work under CM for excample?`(Even after Sony fixes the DRM problem, if ever..)
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hopefully sony will fix camera for unlocked bootloaders otherwise we are all stuck with sony stock rom for eternity...
or at least they whould realese some app that allows our camera to work even with unlocked bootloader..
Ok, than my guess was right, we are stucked with Sony rom, sad...
Edit: Forever, DRM reading software is not possible under CM (it would violate there license) only way would be an export import of the APPS and software needed? Anyone looked into that?
Hi all,
id like to put a question; since i have a Sony device for my first time, i didnt knew about camera quality decreasing and Sony services halting with bootloader unlocking. Im very up to taking photos, and camera quality is very important for me, X-Reality too. So, since i lost my DRM keys, when i flash official ftf file, then ill lock my bootloader, and then update my FW from KK to Lollipop by official way via Software Update - will it recover my DRM keys?
Carach_CZ said:
Hi all,
id like to put a question; since i have a Sony device for my first time, i didnt knew about camera quality decreasing and Sony services halting with bootloader unlocking. Im very up to taking photos, and camera quality is very important for me, X-Reality too. So, since i lost my DRM keys, when i flash official ftf file, then ill lock my bootloader, and then update my FW from KK to Lollipop by official way via Software Update - will it recover my DRM keys?
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Sorry but once you lost the DRM keys (without backing them up) they are gone. Have you tried this "fix", it emulates a couple of functions that you lost, http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
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Actually I saw that you posted in that thread already yesterday saying that the patch worked - good for you!
charliebigpot said:
Sorry but once you lost the DRM keys (without backing them up) they are gone. Have you tried this "fix", it emulates a couple of functions that you lost, http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
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Actually I saw that you posted in that thread already yesterday saying that the patch worked - good for you!
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is it possible to backup drm keys after i lost them? i managed to backup TA-backup-20150*****.zip several days ago (but im not sure if before/after unlocking bootloader.
EDIT: well i did saw some incerasing camera quality, but x-reality didint worked. im trying to solve my issue, but it will take a long trip. how Cyanogenmod camera holding up?
If you take a backup of nothing - you still have nothing when you restore it.
If you unlocked before backing up - that's it - nothing you do on your own is going to get the keys back. Only Sony can restore keys, and likely the only way they will do that is by replacing the mother board and charging you the parts and labor for it.
If that's not an option for you - then the DRM restore is currently the only other path to follow.
Hello, and yeah, i have this not very clear, i want to root this old fam, but as far i know i cant have BOTH the drm keys and root, did i misundertood? Is there a way to have the two working a the same time? Also i have the lastes firmware from Sony
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/general/nougat-firmware-z3-e6553-6533-t3545481
yes! you can..
wake up brother, everything you need is in above link.
Gazer213 said:
Hello, and yeah, i have this not very clear, i want to root this old fam, but as far i know i cant have BOTH the drm keys and root, did i misundertood? Is there a way to have the two working a the same time? Also i have the lastes firmware from Sony
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Check this link for all the necessary information you need: Link
Hey, just after a little help
I was just wondering if there was a way to root the XZ1C without unlocking the bootloader? I didn't really see a guide
Can you still hide root or go back to stock so that apps that don't work with root won't have any issues? I know unlocking the bootloader can cause issues, not sure about just root though.
I did see this, but it seems to be a bit outdated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp.../reference-xperia-debranding-rooting-t3667368
Oh and also, is it true that the Xperia XZ1 Compact doesn't have double tap to wake? Is there no way of getting it back? Since most of you have probably had one for a while, what are some other drawbacks or negatives about the phone?
Thanks for any assistance :good:
I don't know of any ways to root without unlocking the bootloader, at least not on any Xperia. Pretty sure it's required. It didn't cause me any problems running latest stock then unlocking and flashing TWRP and Magisk. In fact it worked pretty well.
Phone is incredibly fast and smooth. I've used different ROMs. Haven't seen double tap to wake. Anyway it's the best compact phone by far, the only drawback being no raw image support so google camera isn't compatible. The stock camera app is good but not great.
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I did see this, but it seems to be a bit outdated
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp.../reference-xperia-debranding-rooting-t3667368
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I really need to update that guide as it is outdated. To answer your first question, not really, an unlocked BL is required to get the most out of the phone.
If you want to root just unlock bootloader, flash TWRP in fastboot mode, then flash magisk in TWRP. It's fairly simple. But that's only if you unlock the bootloader.
Thanks for the responses, really appreciate the help. Good to hear the phone is still fast and smooth.
I'm pretty sure I was able to root my Z3 Compact in the past without unlocking the bootloader. I think it was through flashing a stock rooted .ftf file. I was really hoping something similar would be possible here. My concern is the apps that detect an unlocked bootloader and restrict access. Banking apps for example. Doesn't it also cause issues with Sony cameras once you unlock the bootloader?
I'm fine just being on stock Rooted and not being able to use custom ROMs if that's at all possible without unlocking the bootloader?
The XZ1C fortunately doesn't have the same issue as the other previous Xperia models when it comes to unlocking bootloader and losing DRM keys for the camera. So if you unlock, the camera will behave like it does on locked stock.
If you want to root stock you'll still need to unlock the bootloader. I haven't seen any other way to do it. Maybe it's possible if someone on root stock uploads their rooted boot.img and you take that and replace the original boot.img in the ftf but I don't know if that'll work.
It's disappointing to hear honestly. Given I did it on my Z3C, I thought it'd be possible here. Oh well, thanks for letting me know!
Maybe I'll have to see if I can make do without root. Does rooting still block Sony Apps like PS4 Remote Play, or have a lot of issues been ironed out by now? I know Banking Apps are completely blocked. You can't hide it, right?
What would you guys suggest is the best guide to rooting these days on an XZ1C on Android 9?
I use banking apps regularly and haven't had any issues despite both safetynet and CTS profile failing, I'm still looking into getting that fixed. I'm not sure about Sony remote play on root.
To root stock you just need to unlock the bootloader using the Xperia Flash tool, then in fastboot mode flash TWRP, then boot to TWRP and flash Magisk. It's surprisingly pretty simple.
There's also a recent thread here that I didn't see before about rooting with a locked bootloader, you might find something there. Haven't tested it myself though.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...p-root-xz1c-xz1-xzp-including-magisk-t4047389
Thanks, I'll definitely have a look at that. I did notice it said Android Oreo when mine's on Android 9, but I assume you can downgrade using flashtool. There's probably a list of firmwares somewhere on the forum, right?
One thing I am confused about it is you mentioned you don't lose your DRM keys on the XZ1C, but a lot of guides seem to talk about backing up the keys and the TA Partition as the camera won't work otherwise. What's the reason for that? Are the guides just a bit outdated and there's no current one available?
Thanks for all the help btw, appreciate it
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Thanks, I'll definitely have a look at that. I did notice it said Android Oreo when mine's on Android 9, but I assume you can downgrade using flashtool. There's probably a list of firmwares somewhere on the forum, right?
One thing I am confused about it is you mentioned you don't lose your DRM keys on the XZ1C, but a lot of guides seem to talk about backing up the keys and the TA Partition as the camera won't work otherwise. What's the reason for that? Are the guides just a bit outdated and there's no current one available?
Thanks for all the help btw, appreciate it
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No problem. Flashtool will probably only have Pie firmware available. You could try this post for a link to the Oreo firmware for Central EU:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/b93mc9/xz1_compact_oreo_firmware_471a1620_download/
As for unlocking the DRM keys, I should clarify - I meant that if you unlock the bootloader you still lose the DRM keys but the Sony stock camera works as intended with most of features still enabled (before there used to be a green screen and glitches but not anymore for Pie, as with previous xperia models). I think some still get disabled after unlocking.
You can read more about that here: https://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-android-pie-unlock-bootloader-drm-fix-camera/
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No problem. Flashtool will probably only have Pie firmware available. You could try this post for a link to the Oreo firmware for Central EU:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonyXperia/comments/b93mc9/xz1_compact_oreo_firmware_471a1620_download/
As for unlocking the DRM keys, I should clarify - I meant that if you unlock the bootloader you still lose the DRM keys but the Sony stock camera works as intended with most of features still enabled (before there used to be a green screen and glitches but not anymore for Pie, as with previous xperia models). I think some still get disabled after unlocking.
You can read more about that here: https://www.xda-developers.com/sony-xperia-android-pie-unlock-bootloader-drm-fix-camera/
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I'll definitely try that, looks like it might be worth trying the whole temp root method from Oreo and then updating back to Pie after.
I read up on the link, it's nice to see Sony reinstated Camera functionality, but honestly I wouldn't really want to lose access to the other features too from unlocking the Bootloader. Is there a way to keep them by backing up and restoring the DRM keys? Any recommended software for that?
I clicked through and saw this link, but I'm not sure it works for the XZ1C or is the most updated version
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz...hack-mod-sony-xperia-xz-premium-twrp-t3695171
I'll have to do a bit more reading, I was looking for a more up to date guide for everything like unlock/backup/restore etc, somewhere on this forum but I've not been able to see it honestly.
Afraid I haven't seen anything recent here on DRM backup and restore cause I haven't searched but maybe someone else knows. I haven't noticed any difference myself without the keys tbh.
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I clicked through and saw this link, but I'm not sure it works for the XZ1C or is the most updated version
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz...hack-mod-sony-xperia-xz-premium-twrp-t3695171
I'll have to do a bit more reading, I was looking for a more up to date guide for everything like unlock/backup/restore etc, somewhere on this forum but I've not been able to see it honestly.
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"I've not been able to see it honestly", seriously?! Try looking harder, and in the right section. - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact
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"I've not been able to see it honestly", seriously?! Try looking harder, and in the right section. - https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact
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Yeah I was serious
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510
This seems to be the thread, but honestly I was pretty ill that week and didn't really read through it properly, so didn't notice it's got a full breakdown. I thought it was just steps to backup the TA partition.
In my defence it looks like another user on the forum was also looking for the same thing
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So I was under the influence that once you unlock your device it's byebye for DRM keys and the camera's functionality. Well, I just finished unlocking bootloader and installing Magisk yet the camera's working perfectly well. Did I miss anything...?
1xcalibur1 said:
Did I miss anything...?
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It would appear so. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...up-drm-keys-implemented.3795510/post-79734673