Do you guys think it will be possible for the devs to put a good fully working flashplayer into the various ROMs? Hoping for some full on flashplayer love on CM7 or Honeycomb V4 2nd ed.
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Flash has been working on CM7 for some time.. eesssh..
Divine_Madcat said:
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Flash has been working on CM7 for some time.. eesssh..
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facepalm is right!
LOL !!!
For some reason I really like this thread
dalingrin has already said that the B&N Flash won't be included in official CM7. The Honeycomb demo (that is all we basically have) doesn't have fully working DSP like CM7 has so it doesn't benefit from this release.
With that said, I am sure someone will make a CM7 ROM with it included eventually.
Yeah, and from what I can tell, there's nothing special about B&N's flash vs the 10.2 in the Market. Then again, I don't like flash for many things on the NC, so maybe I am missing the differences. It is pretty heavy on CPU cycles. I don't deny others the opportunity like Lord Steve though.
What is special about the stock flash player vs CM7?
The 1.2 version of flashplayer has dsp decoding enabled for some video content which should improve video performance. You can extract it from the 1.2 update zip on BN.com
As already stated CM7 has always had flash support. While B&N flash can be used in CM7, it has limited benefits. B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better.
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As already stated CM7 has always had flash support. While B&N flash can be used in CM7, it has limited benefits. B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better.
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This is good to know! I noticed from sites like crackle Dolphin mini set to desktop says "This video is not optimized for mobile". So 10.2 flash with Hulu fix would be best here. Dolphin mini set to Desktop seems to play crackle well with the flash based on B&N 1.2 Froyo and Hulu fix where Opera Mobile video freezes but audio continues until I sync it. The Opera Mobile browser at crackle does not say "This video is not optimized for mobile".
When using the flash based on B&N 1.2 Froyo with the Hulu fix in Opera Mobile at the Hulu website, it does not say "This video is not optimized for mobile". Now part of the Hulu fix is to make the browser look like window/mac desktop. We also throttle the file to 288p thru settings. Do you think B&N 1.2 Froyo flash might be better here? My guess is not, it is only Opera Mobile being made to look like window/mac desktop, not hardware acceleration dsp. Dolphin mini will not play the Hulu site.
I am using the Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so for both 1.2 Froyo update and 10.2 flash. I wonder if that has any bearings? Could this actually negate the dsp acceleration of of B&N update for optimized mobile videos? I think it is modified from 10.2 version of flash. I justed loaded video from youtube website. In Dolphin mini and Opera Mobile they did not appear to have dsp acceleration. When played from YouTube app they were much better. I am going to reboot and play video's again. This will negate the Hulu flash fix and restore 1.2 Froyo update.
With the Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so and all browsers it is hard to know what is best or a method to test them all out with? To complicated matters I also have a motorola xoom bluetooth keyboard. At least I can turn bluetooth off.
What I learned.
How to optimize use of Flash 10.1 from B&N 1.2 Froyo, Flash 10.2 from Market, Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so, Opera Mobile and Dolphin Mini in CM7, specifically phiremod V6.1 OC 1300 with 4/23 kernel set at interactive 1300/300.
From Dal: "...B&N flash on 1.2 Froyo and CM7 does have DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." Unfortunately, videos that are optimized for mobile seem limited to mostly YouTube.com where you'd be better off using the YouTube app anyway. For videos that are not optimized for mobile, the newer Flash 10.2 from the market is better."
Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so can be used in 10.1 and 10.2 versions of flash.
1) In 10.1 it negates the DSP support for videos "Optimized for mobile." at sites like youtube, and makes sites like crackle perform like it had 10.2 version of flash.
2) In 10.2 it allows Opera Mobile to play back Hulu videos on the nook. Can be used with Dolphin mini as well (see edit at end of post). For ease of use at all flash sites I recommend Opera Mobile for Hulu style sites and Dolphi mini for non Hulu style sites.
Conclusion: Install 10.2 and Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so. Tweak Opera Mobile for Hulu. Redo install of Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so on each reboot. Use Dolphin min for all flash video playback at sites like crackle, cnn, etc. Sites like Hulu, Espn3, and others where flash video playback is blocked, use tweaked Opera Mobile. Opera Mobile makes these site look like it is a desktop window/mac. Use YouTube app for playback of videos at the YouTube.com website. Flash will appear to be smooth in all of the above situations.
Edit: I can now make Dolphin min work for Hulu style sites as well. But it is more functional to have one browser for Hulu style sites and one browser for other flash sites then to switch the setting in Dolphin min.
See this post for making Dolphin work for Hulu. Some details: Hit Menu - Toolbox - Settings. Uncheck Load images. Under Advanced settings - Enable plug-ins - change to Always on. Under Menu - Toolbox - User Agent Check Desktop (I use this last setting for both the Hulu and all non Hulu style flash sites).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13063918&postcount=33
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Conclusion: Install 10.2 and Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so. Tweak Opera Mobile for Hulu. Redo install of Hulu fix of libflashplayer.so on each reboot. Use Dolphin min for all flash video playback at sites like crackle, cnn, etc. Sites like Hulu, Espn3, and others where flash video playback is blocked, use tweaked Opera Mobile. Opera Mobile makes these site look like it is a desktop window/mac. Use YouTube app for playback of videos at the YouTube.com website. Flash will appear to be smooth in all of the above situations.
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Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
urufu_shinjiro said:
Do you guys think it will be possible for the devs to put a good fully working flashplayer into the various ROMs? Hoping for some full on flashplayer love on CM7 or Honeycomb V4 2nd ed.
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Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
:-D
Jiggity Janx said:
Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
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I was running the nightlies from a sd card and phiremod's version from emmc. Once cm7 and phiremod V6.1 got video working smoothly, I loaded a 16gb SanDisk SD card with lots of music and transcoded movies. So I no longer run the nightlies.
Phiremod V6.1 is based on a fairly recent cm7. To make it work with hulu I had to manually load the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix, install Opera Mobile, and tweak it configuration to get it to look like a window/mac desktop. Every time I reboot Hulu's website videos no longer work as the adobe flash player reinstalls its version of libflashplayer.so. When I change this file back to the Hulu version they work again. So unless the nightlies have a tweaked Opera Mobile and a script to replace libflashplayer.so after flash initialize the directory on reboot their is no way it can play flash videos at Hulu website. Most other flash website will play correctly. Maybe that is where people are thinking that the hulu version is baked in. Espn3 and some of the network sites are other places where flash videos only work with the Hulu modifications.
john10101 said:
Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
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For cm7 at least, it is Adobe and Hulu who are blocking some flash sites. The developers are amazing here as they have hardware acceleration working better then the B&N update 1.2 froyo has. They have better codecs, better acceleration, and have figured out ways to get the block sites to play. Plus they talk to us through the forums. I really appreciate their efforts and think most people here would agree.
It you want to make B&N flash froyo better you could take the libflashplayer.so hulu fix and replace it in a newly rooted version of the updated stock software(actually they are working on it). It would get rid of the chopiness that their 10.1 Adobe FlashPlayer has. I found this for now
"It's not a full root. But it does allow you to side-load some applications."
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1051235
It would be necessary to side Load something like File Expert to make changes to move the hulu libflashplayer.so to their com.adobe.flashplayer/lib directory and set the correct permissions.
Jiggity Janx said:
Thanks for the conclusion part of your post as that help clarify for me what content to run on what browser. However, and someone please correct me if I remember incorrectly, hasn't the Hulu libflashplayer.so fix been baked into the nightlies for some time now? Just don't want people (myself included) constantly updating something unnecessarily.
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Okay, using my hack (see sig), hulu works for both 10.1 and 10.2. 10.2 seems better (by just a little bit).
john10101 said:
Seconded, its very disappointing that these devs cant get a single thing to function properly.
:-D
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This was a joke btw, i cant say enough good things about the devs here and all the work that has been done in the nook. Im extremely happy i made the purchase, i could not ask for a better tablet.
Doh! My bad, I haven't looked into the issue since HC V4 2nd ed. I read at the time that flash wouldn't be on the NC because of a missing driver, so my thinking was that the B&N flash would perhaps allow for extracting the needed files to get it in other roms. I put CM7.0.2 on an sd card last night and WOW, I can't believe I didn't do it sooner, lol. Screw that unstable no app working HC preview, lol.
I know there's a lot of threads like these, but everything I could pull up seemed really out of date, or didn't have the information I need. The Wiki was good, but just gave a list of all the builds out there, and I can't sort out which one is currently best for what. I'm hoping someone can give me some quick answers:
tl:dr: Have a brand new Nook Color. Video will be 95% of what it's used for, little to no web browsing or games. Would like to use it to watch movies/TV shows streamed from my NAS or off the SD card. 5% of use will be viewing photos directly off my digital camera's SD cards (using converters in the cameras).
Tell me what OS/Software to use. Most files are .mkv format, usually 720p.
Currently, I've got Nookie Froyo installed on the SD card, and after a lot of frustration of how the heck to actually get files onto the SD card while also having the OS on there, I found that bootloader NookColorUMS thing, which even though it seems like more steps than should be needed, has allowed me to copy files to the SD card with the nook connected via USB cable.
I'd like to have the OS installed internally, so I'm free to swap SD cards around to quickly move data around. Also so I can pull the SD cards out of my cameras, stick them in the nook, and browse the photos.
Currently I'm using Rockplayer Lite, which plays the 480p files fine, but craps out trying to play 720p. It also is very annoying in that it it has no back button in the UI that I can figure out, so you have to use that tweek to force the status bar to always be on top, which is annoying. If there's any way to get the stock player to play the files, that would be best. I know it should be possible, my Samsung Moment plays all these files naively with the build-in movie player. But the Gallery player won't play them on this version of Froyo that I've got on here.
My questions boil down to:
-What OS should I use if I'm going to go through the trouble of figuring out how to install in on the internal memory?
-What's the best video player/codec pack?
-How do I browse/play files off my shared drives on my computers and NAS unit?
Thank you for any answers you can give, or any directions you can point me in!
Hope this helps.
-What OS should I use if I'm going to go through the trouble of figuring out how to install in on the internal memory?
CM7 - try phiremod nook
-What's the best video player/codec pack?
I've been using handbrake to convert all my video to MP4 using these settings.
-How do I browse/play files off my shared drives on my computers and NAS unit?
PlayOn works pretty good. Depending on the source video type i get some sync issues.
Easiest install method
#1 Install Clockwork Recovery Mod to internal memory from your bootable SD card.
#2 Drop your desired rom on the root of a non-bootable SD card
#3 Restart into Clockwork Recovery Mod by powering on with n button held down
#4 Backup!
#5 Flash zip from sdcard
Now as far as video... I think you might be disappointed. You are going to need to reencode each video for the nook to get best results.
I recommend Phiremod Nook 6.2
Thanks for the reply's everyone. I'll get CM7 installed tonight.
I'm REALLY hoping to not have to convert videos to be able to play them on the Nook. That was basically the reason I DIDN'T get an iPad, I don't want to have to convert videos into a specific format to play them. All of these files played fine on my Moment, I guess I made the mistake of assuming they'd work fine on any Android device.
Is there no way to just be able to browse a network, and view/play videos and pictures on them? It seems like it should be such a basic feature.
What other good video players are available besides Rockplayer? Or, how would I install additional codecs to get the build-in video player to work?
I think Vitalplayer Neon and Mobo player are pretty good for the nook.
TL;DR; ?? Reaally?!?
Not reading (repeatedly the same instructions over), being impatient and rushing headlong into things is the easiest way to muck things up. We're just lucky NCs are impossible to be permanently bricked.
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-What OS should I use if I'm going to go through the trouble of figuring out how to install in on the internal memory?
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CM7 latest nightly (n86 onwards) has the newest fix for audio and video, while being on the .32 kernel and have support for an Overclock kernel. Smoothest vid playback I've ever seen, without any mucking about in re-encoding in Handbrake, etc.
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-What's the best video player/codec pack?
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I use moboplayer. 720p vids are a touch-n-go, some are OK, some are not. But if the HW acceleration (of the .32 kernel) doesn't cut it, moboplayer has the soft-decoding option.
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-How do I browse/play files off my shared drives on my computers and NAS unit?
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Cifsmanager.
Just install, no other tweaking necessary. All extra files (mentioned in older thread abt this) have been in the CM7 ROM since n30s or n40s (or n50s, I can't remember really ).
Hello! I am not new to the concept of modifying my Galaxy Ace. However, I switched to an HTC 8x. Because xbox music is such a pain to deal with and because Android is still my favorite, I've decided to keep my Ace, even though I won't be using it for anything but browsing and music. I'm looking for a stable ROM that plays media smoothly. I'm not looking for ICS, I really don't care what it looks like. Honestly, it doesn't even need to come with google apps installed. I am running Linux, so I cannot use Odin well enough to actually accomplish anything. Can anyone point me in the direction of a ROM that will work for this? If there is none, are there any programs for creating custom ROMs on Linux?
Stock roms or Custom Stock roms (Stocklite, Mcrage {audio enchancement already has incluided}, StockEvolution...) with audio enchancements (Beats Audio, Megabass and Beats...)
You can see the link below in my sign "Ace's Audio Battle" or use the search
Hi,
I'm a Galaxy Mini user and now are almost 3 years I am using this phone.
I have flashed and enjoyed so many roms in this forum and I have been very excited about the developement of first CM9, CM10 and now CM11.
I think CM9 is the highest upgrade that our mini can reach having good performances and sufficently new stuff and interface, however, for my needs, cm7.2 is still the most stable and efficient android version, with the best battery life and performances compared to all others.
I don't really feel the need to have a newer Android version and, yes, I'm happy with this low-end phone.
The only thing I really would like to understand and the only reason which keep me looking at CM9 is the native flac support.
I think this is the only lack of gingerbread, if this could be supported, I would definitely go for that.
Now, I know there are 3party player and also that Cm7.2 player plays flawlessy FLAC files, but the problem is not with local files, stored on my SD, but with DLNA support.
The only application i found that can stream FLAC files from my NAS is BubbleUpnp but is really too heavy and cpu-stressing, making phone quite unusable.
UpnPlay was perfect and very lightweight, it was exactly what i needed but under gingerbread is unable to stream FLAC files due to unsupported file type, while on CM9 can.
Mp3 files are streamed perfectly also in cm7.2, obviously, but it is quite impossible and also absurd to have the whole media library on my server both in FLAC and mp3 format when it could be possible just to keep the highest-quality format one.
It's not a matter of quality, I know my phone wouldn't take any kind of benefict in sound quality, good music can be listened only on an axcellent hi-fi system, but of practicality.
So, is there anyone that can tell me if there is a way to implement the native support of this files? Any mod/engine? It would be very important.
I know that some others phones have customs cm7 builds with this kind of feature built-in, so I think should be possible to add the support to versions of android under 3.x, as Gingerbread.
Thanks in advance and I would really appreciate you if can give me some informations.
I've been wanting to mount a CIFS/SMB share so that I can use apps that can't normally access a network folder. File explorers can allow one particular file to be opened, but I can't do something simple like shuffle a playlist for a music player or navigate to a particular book using an app's library management features. I saw that CIFSManager was an option, but I don't know if the Droid Turbo has any kernels that support it. Is there a custom kernel that supports it, or is there a way to add that functionality to an already existing kernel?