[Q] Native video call data consumption - Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I am going to get 2 i8190Ns, and I want to know how much bandwidth is used during video calls
taken with the built in option, to pick the right data plan. (I'm not asking you to recommend me a plan )
I know Skype and Tango use around 4.5MBp/s, but this info is not enough since guesstimating the relation to
the native function is not satisfying.
Does anyone have a bit more accurate info?

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Speaq VOIP

another new VOIP platform based on SIP.
But i am not able to send and receive calls.
The registration is successful though.
Let me know if anyone has success with this.
http://www.qtechinc.com/speaq_download.htm
Just tried it, in connection with a voipcheap.co.uk account, took several attempts to register with the service, when it did connect all sound came through the speakers and there was a lot of echoing on the line, the call then droped after about 20 seconds.
i think sjphone is a better option still.
Data Speed
What is the minimum data sped needed for VOIP to work?
cyberdrakula said:
What is the minimum data sped needed for VOIP to work?
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I could talk very well on an EDGE connection with:-
E61 + Truphone and
Nokia N72 + Fring
Gizmo performance on SJPhone was shaky. Skype-PPC calls on EDGE were not so good.
But that's what PPC has to offer as of now.
TiVi performance on PPC with an EDGE connection was acceptable.
Hi Vinodis,
could you let me know what device you were using, when you were having problems. Also, if possible a report on bandwidth availability using the page at http://www.dslreports.com/msp would be useful.
Since we only provide the G.711 codec at the moment, we need a reasonable bandwidth availability (70-80kbps), and SpeaQ unfortunately doesn't do a great job yet of telling the user when we have that problem. We do have plans to improve that situation fairly soon though.
thanks,
Jacky Mallett
CTO QTech Inc.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315654 for a FULL review of Fring.

TNTY II and skype

I have just installed skype which seems to be working fine. The only problem I have is that the unit has to be left switched on. If it goes into power save mode it seems to drop the WLAN connection so does not ring when someone calls me on my skype in number. Any ideas how to get this to work as the power drain on battery means that I have to leave the handset plugged into the mains.
I am also keen to change the ring tone but am unsure if this is possible as there are no options on the set up for the mobile skype.
All help and ideas greatly appreciated.
using skype, did the video camera work?
As far as I know the camera dosenst work....
Well I dont know if it's possible. But the Data connection useres alot of batery, so it may be a problem, even if the display itself is switched off.
This phone is sold as a high end Business device etc. yet its impossible to use the video camera with yahoo , sykpe etc. What is the point of offering a front facing camera designed to be used for web type use if it will not work
I still cannot believe the HTC head engineer allowed this phone to be sold with such silly issues
Skype works here on but only on speaker and not with the Telephone speaker. Is there a solution for that??
I've got a slightly different issue besides the fact we can't use the camera. I tried both fring and skype for VoIP, but in both cases the voice quality is always pretty bad. The moment I use the phone as a modem and skype with someone over a laptop, the quality is perfect.
I am currently using skype version 2.1.0.65 on the vario III, as I read somewhere that older versions work better with the Vario III. The quality seems to be slightly better than when I had the latest version of Skype Mobile installed, but it's still far from using it to have a decent conversation. I wonder how everybody else on this forum is managing to speak over skype or fring... Or is everybody having the same issue ?
Thanks
tbeatham said:
I have just installed skype which seems to be working fine. The only problem I have is that the unit has to be left switched on. If it goes into power save mode it seems to drop the WLAN connection so does not ring when someone calls me on my skype in number. Any ideas how to get this to work as the power drain on battery means that I have to leave the handset plugged into the mains.
I am also keen to change the ring tone but am unsure if this is possible as there are no options on the set up for the mobile skype.
All help and ideas greatly appreciated.
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Hi, try to use Kaiser Tweak from this forum and enable WiFi on sleep mode. Haven't tried this myself, but it should work.
Greetz,
Hans Olo
Is there a video option on Skype for Windows Mobile in the first place?!
Guys thanks for the input and help. My skype is working fine so voice calls over a wlan connection is perfect and not sure what was meant by speaker and telephone speaker but the volume controls and microphone quality mean that you can connect to skype as a phone or handsfree phone.
Will try the Kaiser tweaks to see if that does anything and will let you know.
Haven't tried the camera but I guess it doesn't work but that doesn't really bother me. Too many camera's out there these days watching ou anyway
London luke said:
This phone is sold as a high end Business device etc. yet its impossible to use the video camera with yahoo , sykpe etc. What is the point of offering a front facing camera designed to be used for web type use if it will not work
I still cannot believe the HTC head engineer allowed this phone to be sold with such silly issues
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Why do you persist in knocking this phone at every oppourtunity?
Please tell me which phone can be used with yahoo, skype etc? I won't hold my breath for a reply, because, these services are cut-down, mobile versions of the PC based software and don't even offer video calling! So why is it HTC's fault if the people who wrote the software didn't build that function in?! Maybe they should have held back releasing this phone because my Network doesn't offer HSDPA in my area, or I can't get coverage in the middle of the Pacific, or the GPS signal is crap in the middle of the channel tunnel?! Because that is clearly HTC's fault too by your logic...
And I think you'll find the front camera is designed for 3G video calls, not web type work...so frankly, you are a bit of a Paper Hat for moaning about this really aren't you?
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Back on topic, changing the ring tone, not an option unfortunately, least as far as I could find after trawling through the settings options and the registry and the actual program directories.
Personally, I wouldn't bother with Kaiser Tweak to leave WiFi active whilst is sleep mode as it will still eat up battery since the WiFi is still active. With Skype using the WiFi connection to connect, WiFi will need to be 'always-on' thus any saving you make from leaving it on during sleep mode will be negligable (I would have thought). External power (or a huge battery) is the only option.
Still it is nice to at least have the option of Skype Mobile!
Have to agree with you about the phone as I think it's awesome and the best phone I've ever bought for functionality. Don't understand the web camera thing either - just use a laptop if you want that.
Shame about the ring tone as would prefer just the normal modern skype one but it's not gonna bother me that much.
Online on the lan I actually get a decent battery life anyway when on all the time so get a good 4-6 hours on just connected which is pretty damned good.
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so get a good 4-6 hours on just connected which is pretty damned good.
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Actually last time I really used a WiFi connection seriously was approx 4yrs ago (when you could still use ActiveSync via Wifi) and my device at the time would be dead in an hour so if you are getting 4-6 hours of uptime I would view that as excellent!

magicjack voip on Kaiser?

Just curious if anyone here has MagicJack service? www.magicjack.com
Apparently, it works pretty well for 19.99 a year, lol.
Anyway, I amjust curious because from what I have read magicjack uses standard SIP protocol and you are able to get the SIP username/password etc by using a third party program (Fiddler, http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/)
Would the magicjack SIP account work with the Voip software on the Kaiser/Other WM6.1 devices? If so, having high quality Voip on the kaiser for 19.99 a year would be pretty sweet .
My cousin has MagicJack so when I can get over to his house I might try it, but just curious if anyone else has played around with it.
I have MagicJack at home for a home telephone and it works really good. VOIP sucks alot of bandwidth so I wouldn't even consider it unless you have 3g or hsdpa.
I haven't had time to dig into the software and start tinkering with it. I did set it up one time so I could spoof the caller-id to any number I wanted it to display on the recipents ends.
Your best bet is to start reading up on magicjack at http://unofficialmagicjack.forum2u.org/
This way you can learn from what others have discovered and hopefully merge it with your knowledge about the Kaiser.
Yeah, I have the Data Plan and I get good HSDPA coverage, and when I dont, I generally have WiFi available, so if I got it to work it would be good for me.
I'll take a look at that site. Thanks for the link!

[Think Tank] Wifi bonded to cell connection

With the release of the newest Skype app that supports wifi calling only, is there a way to bond the wifi connection to the cellular connection to allow for calls over 3g?
I only ask because the Skype app is pretty much useless without 3g. Might as well get on a laptop or something.
If some way an app can be written that the apps are for the iPhone then it would work. Ive been using an app called My3G and it does what the OP is asking. It basically tricks the app into thinking its on WIFI but uses the existing internet connection which is 3G.
codester3388 said:
If some way an app can be written that the apps are for the iPhone then it would work. Ive been using an app called My3G and it does what the OP is asking. It basically tricks the app into thinking its on WIFI but uses the existing internet connection which is 3G.
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That would do exactly what I would like. Could easily circumvent the need to be on wifi for Skype.
In the iPhone app, does it do this systemwide or is it application specific?
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That would do exactly what I would like. Could easily circumvent the need to be on wifi for Skype.
In the iPhone app, does it do this systemwide or is it application specific?
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app specific
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app specific
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**** man, we need this ****. lol
Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
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Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
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I was going to say, but you beat me to it... I been waiting since mid 2009 for this damn app, first on AT&T and now on my TMO Vibrant. Getting very sick of the wait, in fact this is getting down right evil of them....
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Well first we need a version of Skype that lets you log in. (It doesn't work on Galaxy S devices)
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Yeah, sadly, the ETA is when Froyo drops.
The only skype app. Other then the skype light. Doesnt allow calls only chat.
The normal skype is verizon only. What it does is call a white-listed verizon number to allow data to pass trough it for free.
There is no way up until now. Even fring is now cut off skype.
Just wait.
nimbuzz works it has skype and does calls
might just be me, but i can never get nimbuzz to work for skype calls except on Wi-Fi. the call quality is simply too ****ty otherwise. Call connects but the lag, delay, and distortion makes it unusable.
One Solution
Tether and Skype with your laptop / netbook.
I know, I know... defeats the point of the thread...
but this IS a workaround
Why not just use google voice since it integrates so well with the phone?
People keep saying to use Google Voice, but my Google Voice has absolutely no option to use the data connection to make calls. Am I missing something? All Google Voice does for me is call me from a Google owned number and connect the call... this still uses up minutes. What's the point of using Google Voice to avoid soaking up your plan minutes? Is there some way to make SIP calls with GV that I'm missing?
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People keep saying to use Google Voice, but my Google Voice has absolutely no option to use the data connection to make calls. Am I missing something? All Google Voice does for me is call me from a Google owned number and connect the call... this still uses up minutes. What's the point of using Google Voice to avoid soaking up your plan minutes? Is there some way to make SIP calls with GV that I'm missing?
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Nope. GV is NOT VOIP and it uses a standard voice call, so yes, minutes get used. I don't get why people keep suggesting it in these threads either. The only SIP I know of for Android is SIPDroid, I played with it, but I don't use enough minutes to care about VOIP on my cell. If I were prepaid or something, I would care more.
To hack Skype to bypass the wifi requirement, you will likely need to use a AOSP android build. I suspect they are using the Android APIs that include a method to see if WiFi is connected. You could change the source for that method to tell apps that WiFi is connected when it's not, I suspect you would want to check the app IDs or something to only do it for some of them though.
Another option is to try disabling the check in the app itself, but that involves decompiling or bytecode modification and gets ugly fast. Probably easier to grab the app from a foreign phone that's not restricted to WiFi.

Data Only style ROM

Was starting to wonder about this more and more as I've noticed a lot more people moving to this style of phone system such as myself. But I know windows phone is also bringing this mode to their OS in the near future. I currently do not subscribe to any voice services with my phone carrier, and I use a data only plan, such as what people would use in their tablets. I still can make phone calls like anyone else through data due to Fongo which is an IP based calling and texting platform much like Skype or hangouts can do, just it's more normal, but it doesn't work through the stock dialer. I have no need for those components to be part of the ROM. I was wondering if any developers had ever made a ROM that eliminates those extra components of the ROM or how much space it could save to eliminate those parts?

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