Is there a way I can root with 4.4? I have an unlocked bootloader but the SlapMyMoto method fails me everytime at the impactor 2222 step & even when I try to troubleshoot by using the small windows guide method provided by Jcase. I might be wrong entirely and there isn't yet a root for 4.4, if so let me know that way I don't sound too ignorant. :good:
Demorthus said:
Is there a way I can root with 4.4? I have an unlocked bootloader but the SlapMyMoto method fails me everytime at the impactor 2222 step & even when I try to troubleshoot by using the small windows guide method provided by Jcase. I might be wrong entirely and there isn't yet a root for 4.4, if so let me know that way I don't sound too ignorant. :good:
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Flash twrp recovery by hashcode and flash supersu zip and you're all done
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Is there any possibility there's a way I can root it without a custom recovery though? I understand that it is the easiest way to root, but I'd like to try and keep it stock, that's been my main difficulty thus far.
Demorthus said:
Is there any possibility there's a way I can root it without a custom recovery though? I understand that it is the easiest way to root, but I'd like to try and keep it stock, that's been my main difficulty thus far.
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No, you already unlocked your boot loader , so you're already swimming in the swallow end so you may as well swim over to the deep end
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No, you already unlocked your boot loader , so you're already swimming in the swallow end so you may as well swim over to the deep end
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Alright I'll get right on it then! Thanks x2 . Just as a side question since I've only had my Moto X for about a week and a half, will I still be able to continue to use touchless control and updates for it just as so long as I dont flash a custom rom? I want this puppy as stock as possible
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Alright I'll get right on it then! Thanks x2 . Just as a side question since I've only had my Moto X for about a week and a half, will I still be able to continue to use touchless control and updates for it just as so long as I dont flash a custom rom? I want this puppy as stock as possible
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As long as you run the stock ROM you'll have all the great features , if you use xposed framework and gravity box you'll have all the features that cyanogenmod has plus all moto's great features too, win win
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I want this puppy as stock as possible
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Why did you unlock your bootloader then?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2573212
From what I was following it appeared to be as though it was necessary, but I misinterpreted it. But, it's too late now for any changes, sadly and unfortunately.
get TWRP, xposed framework, with gravitybox and google search api. learn to use tasker and all of its major plugins, you will have a blast with the moto x. the possibilities are endless.
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I am about to get a Moto X from Verizon and I know it has a locked bootloader
I never dealt with a locked phone in the past and this will be my first moto so I am doing a lot of reading
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess the phone will come with 4.2 on it so I'll have two options:
1) Use safestrap and flash 4.4 as a second rom. I am guessing the disadvantage will be loss of disk space for the second rom (maybe other disadvantages, I don't know) but I'll be able to do nandroid backups and flash zips
2) Use the JCase method to root using SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo, etc. (I'll be rooted, but no flashing roms or zips, or nandroid backups)
In that case, which method do you guys really recommend? Do I really need custom roms on this phone since it is almost stock and I can still get xposed to do a lot of the things I'd be interested in with just the root?
If I use the JCase method, do I lose the ability to use safestrap in the future?
Thanks
The moto xs leaving moto maker for Verizon should all be 4.4 at this point. Can't whole heartedly speak to your other questions though.
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I used to be a flash-o-holic and so far I'm perfectly satisfied with just having root and xposed
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I'm rooted, using xposed and gravity box. Very happy with phone. Came from an s3 and have to say I don't miss flashing Roms. Real learning curve for me to root but JCase methods worked perfect and google was my friend through the many steps. Good luck!
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SlapMyMoto. You're not gonna want to flash roms on this phone.
Thanks for the replies.
I guess if the phone comes with 4.4 already, I only have the JCase's root option, anyway.
But reading the replies here as well as other threads, I see that most people are pretty content with the stock rom + root + gravitybox/xposed. That's great to know.
I can't wait to get the phone tomorrow
Does Safestrap load 4.4.2 roms now?
aptalca said:
Thanks for the replies.
I guess if the phone comes with 4.4 already, I only have the JCase's root option, anyway.
But reading the replies here as well as other threads, I see that most people are pretty content with the stock rom + root + gravitybox/xposed. That's great to know.
I can't wait to get the phone tomorrow
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Safestrap works on 4.4 too
But you have to have satestrapped it when you were on the 4.2 bootloader, correct? So if you took an ota or if your phone shipped with 4.4, your bootloader was updated and you can no longer safestrap
I was just Google searching hoping for some good news... And came across this posted yesterday...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Root-Moto-X-KitKat
... Any truth to that? And is it for any carrier, i.e att?
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Links to a thread on here.
Yea I saw that, but they are not the same...
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They want you to dl this http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/
Anyone know what it is?
Maybe it works for root....but write protection will be enabled. So all root changes will be lost on reboot or power down.
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kj2112 said:
Maybe it works for root....but write protection will be enabled. So all root changes will be lost on reboot or power down.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
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So here's my "dumb" question? Would apps like Greenify and Ti backup still possibly work since they just need root permissions, where as Xposed and other apps that need a reboot would be basically worthless?
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So here's my "dumb" question? Would apps like Greenify and Ti backup still possibly work since they just need root permissions, where as Xposed and other apps that need a reboot would be basically worthless?
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There's other threads where this stuff gets talked about, but im pretty sure for things like that it would probably work. But any actual changes to anything would get reversed.
I've always been unlocked....so I don't have firsthand experience though.
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I'm not too sure about that root method.
Step 11 tells you to downgrade the Bootloader (MOTOBOOT.IMG) and GPT.BIN which is part of the security stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those the main components involved with bricking when trying to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4 and lower?
But again, with a locked bootloader, as @kj2112 said, Write Protection will still be enabled.
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I'm not too sure about that root method.
Step 11 tells you to downgrade the Bootloader (MOTOBOOT.IMG) and GPT.BIN which is part of the security stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those the main components involved with bricking when trying to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4 and lower?
But again, with a locked bootloader, as @kj2112 said, Write Protection will still be enabled.
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I've been a bit confused by allusions to rooting without write protection. Everyone says similar stuff to what you guys have said--well, without write protection disabled you'll lose root on reboot. I'd be okay with that, just avoid rebooting my phone and using stuff that requires a reboot to take effect. The only thing I really want root for is to see my partial wakelocks to be able to properly troubleshoot battery issues. I really like the stock Moto X ux. If I could, I'd probably use some Xposed modules too, but all I really really want is to get better insight into my wakelock situation. Elsewhere, though, I read that root is totally impossible on 4.4.2, unless you have an unlocked bootloader (which I obviously don't). So, is it possible to get root, even if it doesn't survive a soft reset?
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I've been a bit confused by allusions to rooting without write protection. Everyone says similar stuff to what you guys have said--well, without write protection disabled you'll lose root on reboot. I'd be okay with that, just avoid rebooting my phone and using stuff that requires a reboot to take effect. The only thing I really want root for is to see my partial wakelocks to be able to properly troubleshoot battery issues. I really like the stock Moto X ux. If I could, I'd probably use some Xposed modules too, but all I really really want is to get better insight into my wakelock situation. Elsewhere, though, I read that root is totally impossible on 4.4.2, unless you have an unlocked bootloader (which I obviously don't). So, is it possible to get root, even if it doesn't survive a soft reset?
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Please see my response to you in the 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 thread.
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Please see my response to you in the 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 thread.
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Thanks, didn't realize until afterward it was the same voice in both threads.
Jumnhy said:
I've been a bit confused by allusions to rooting without write protection. Everyone says similar stuff to what you guys have said--well, without write protection disabled you'll lose root on reboot. I'd be okay with that, just avoid rebooting my phone and using stuff that requires a reboot to take effect. The only thing I really want root for is to see my partial wakelocks to be able to properly troubleshoot battery issues. I really like the stock Moto X ux. If I could, I'd probably use some Xposed modules too, but all I really really want is to get better insight into my wakelock situation. Elsewhere, though, I read that root is totally impossible on 4.4.2, unless you have an unlocked bootloader (which I obviously don't). So, is it possible to get root, even if it doesn't survive a soft reset?
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take a read of -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-LockedRoot.html
Root itself is not lost on reboot, only changes done to the /system folder and other protected places.
But yes, if you already have 4.4.2 on your phone, and can't unlock your bootloader, you won't be able to root.
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Thanks, didn't realize until afterward it was the same voice in both threads.
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Where you found another same threads ?
DANIEL AMBRUSO said:
Where you found another same threads ?
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It was just kj2112 explaining a similar issue to me. Check it out, but essentially my understanding is that there's no root for 4.4.2 if the phone never had root previously (ie, if you naively took the OTA like me without thnking about implications for root.
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take a read of -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-LockedRoot.html
Root itself is not lost on reboot, only changes done to the /system folder and other protected places.
But yes, if you already have 4.4.2 on your phone, and can't unlock your bootloader, you won't be able to root.
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Solid, thanks for the concise summary. I'd read jcase's posts a while back about a potential exploit--something about using it in a teaching session at BlackHat? He even says though, that the exploit he has will probably never be useful for the average user insofar as it would be too hard to implement and n00bz like myself would end up bricking our phones. So I'm not holding my breath on that one. Ugh. Sad I missed the window for the Chinese connection. Should have jumped on it.
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Links to a thread on here.
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Works with 4.4 and post-camera 4.2.2, but if you take the OTA to 4.-4-.2 it upgrades your bootloader and you lose the ability to turn write protection off ; root is pretty much useless at that point.
I have the Republic Wireless XT1049 and did the upgrade shown here and have 4.4.2 with write protect off.
Do not attempt this if you are already running 4.4.2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your bootloader is already changed and you run a big risk of bricking if you try to downgrade to the 4.2.2 bootloader!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233/post52348028
As usual, read the instructions carefully.
Then read through the posts! Different rooters had different issues!
AFAIK no one bricked though.
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Works with 4.4 and post-camera 4.2.2, but if you take the OTA to 4.-4-.2 it upgrades your bootloader and you lose the ability to turn write protection off ; root is pretty much useless at that point.
I have the Republic Wireless XT1049 and did the upgrade shown here and have 4.4.2 with write protect off.
Do not attempt this if you are already running 4.4.2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your bootloader is already changed and you run a big risk of bricking if you try to downgrade to the 4.2.2 bootloader!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ireless-moto-x-kitkat-4-t2738233/post52348028
As usual, read the instructions carefully.
Then read through the posts! Different rooters had different issues!
AFAIK no one bricked though.
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The steps in the thread you link to are how to use use 4.4.2 via Safestrap, which does add a layer of complexity. It is the only option to take 4.4.2 IF you have a locked bootloader and are rooted and write protection disabled. And many do have good luck with it, so it is an option IF your phone is still on 4.4.
If I understand correctly, each safestrap rom is unique for the carrier.. in other words, you can't use the Republic Wireless SS rom if you are on Verizon. You can't use the Verizon SS rom if you are on ATT, etc. (for example, they were waiting on the ATT 4.4.2 SBF to create a SS Rom for the ATT X).
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The steps in the thread you link to are how to use use 4.4.2 via Safestrap, which does add a layer of complexity. It is the only option to take 4.4.2 IF you have a locked bootloader and are rooted and write protection disabled. And many do have good luck with it, so it is an option IF your phone is still on 4.4.
If I understand correctly, each safestrap rom is unique for the carrier.. in other words, you can't use the Republic Wireless SS rom if you are on Verizon. You can't use the Verizon SS rom if you are on ATT, etc. (for example, they were waiting on the ATT 4.4.2 SBF to create a SS Rom for the ATT X).
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Yes, if you have already gone to 4.4.2 you are out of luck.
I'm using the T-Mobile SafeStrap Recovery with my RW Moto X. This was done by a Franken-ROM process that uses the 4.4.2 ROM without using the 4.4.2 bootloader and using the SS recovery to flash a zip file with some components of the 4.4.2 ROM and then flashing SuperSU. Whether or not it should be working, it is. Nothing I can, or want to, do about that.
But I am sure you are right that this resultant ROM would not work on phones from other carriers. Versions for other carriers are being developed though. It may simply be a matter of time and interest by motivated individuals until this is available for just about everyone.
Hi guys,
I recently purchased the Developer Edition of Moto X. To be honest, I am not a developer for Android, and I am very new all together to Android, coming from iOS. All of my iPhones have always been jailbroken, and I would like to root my new Android as well. My Moto X has an unlocked boot loader. If I understand it correctly, this should allow me to root the phone in a permanent way. I would like to stick with the stock Moto X room, but I want to have root for some of the apps that need it.
I have googled it and found a bunch of different guides on how to do this, but is there a better way to do it on a device with an unlocked boot loader? Something what works with 4.4.2. If you point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
- Bogdan
x0054 said:
Hi guys,
I recently purchased the Developer Edition of Moto X. To be honest, I am not a developer for Android, and I am very new all together to Android, coming from iOS. All of my iPhones have always been jailbroken, and I would like to root my new Android as well. My Moto X has an unlocked boot loader. If I understand it correctly, this should allow me to root the phone in a permanent way. I would like to stick with the stock Moto X room, but I want to have root for some of the apps that need it.
I have googled it and found a bunch of different guides on how to do this, but is there a better way to do it on a device with an unlocked boot loader? Something what works with 4.4.2. If you point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
- Bogdan
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This Guy has all these kind of tips
http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX.htm
My opinion, if you can't figure out how to root a device with an unlocked bootloader when non-stock recovery is available, you should just leave your phone stock. It doesn't get any easier unless it would come pre-rooted.
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Thanks for the tip. The procedure looks relatively simple. Is the mfastboot the utility that Motorola includes with their SDK, or is it a 3rd party utility? I have a mac, and I would like to do all of this without having to boot into Windows.
Thanks!
x0054 said:
Thanks for the tip. The procedure looks relatively simple. Is the mfastboot the utility that Motorola includes with their SDK, or is it a 3rd party utility? I have a mac, and I would like to do all of this without having to boot into Windows.
Thanks!
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I don't understand why you need to over complicate unlocking and rooting a Developer Edition. Just go here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Request the unlock code. Follow the instructions to unlock it. You can then install TWRP and root it.
Here's a complete guide here on XDA. Tho, with Mac, you may need that toolkit.
Personally, if you can use windows, I'd use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
Thanks for all the links, I think I figured it out. The mfastboot should come with the Motorola Development bundle, and the rest I have ready. Looks like the process is pretty straight foreword. I'll post a little writeup for doing this on Mac if I am successful.
- Bogdan
kj2112 said:
Here's a complete guide here on XDA. Tho, with Mac, you may need that toolkit.
Personally, if you can use windows, I'd use it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
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I used a mac without any issues. Uses fastboot instead of mfastboot. And I think I used the SDK. Don't remember now.
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I used a mac without any issues. Uses fastboot instead of mfastboot. And I think I used the SDK. Don't remember now.
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I'm sure Mac is fine. Just if there's any problems, it'll be harder to find help here with Mac stuff.
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I'm sure Mac is fine. Just if there's any problems, it'll be harder to find help here with Mac stuff.
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Its pretty much the same as Linux. Windows might actually be the odd ball in the process.
x0054 said:
Hi guys,
I recently purchased the Developer Edition of Moto X. To be honest, I am not a developer for Android, and I am very new all together to Android, coming from iOS. All of my iPhones have always been jailbroken, and I would like to root my new Android as well. My Moto X has an unlocked boot loader. If I understand it correctly, this should allow me to root the phone in a permanent way. I would like to stick with the stock Moto X room, but I want to have root for some of the apps that need it.
I have googled it and found a bunch of different guides on how to do this, but is there a better way to do it on a device with an unlocked boot loader? Something what works with 4.4.2. If you point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
- Bogdan
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You can unlock though Motorola. Then install super su from the play store. If you're not interested in flashing a custom ROM you should be good to go, however I'd advise flashing a custom recovery and making a back up. Not needed but makes things a lot easier.
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FYI: I used the Mac toolkit to get my new DE going.
Also be aware the up code goes to the email Moto has tied to the phone not the user account (email) you need to create the unlock.
first, sorry if this has been asked b4, xda/google saeearch didn't find anything.
I need xposed, and I also need root. ( both, root for other things besides xposed.)
just got my moto g2, 4.4.4., and I wanted to know, should I root now, or wait till the 5.0 update and then root? or should I root now and install xposed and not update to 5.0 when it comes out? I read online that there probably will not be xposed fully working on lollipop.
advice anyone?
Root it now, you can aways install the update on your phone, rooted or not.
Hakkinan said:
Root it now, you can aways install the update on your phone, rooted or not.
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most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?
Kobro said:
most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?
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You can be rooted and still be fully stock.
Kobro said:
most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?
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Only if you want to receive it by OTA, besides that, it doesn't matter if you are fully stock or not.
There are some known issues relocking bootloader and returning to stock at all. In most of all cases it works without problems but not in all. If you can´t get back to stock there still will be future options to get lollipop,by sideloading as a zip though recovery for example,ota is not the only way.
I am still on stock 4.4.4 and will wait for the ota,then relock bootloader and root.The Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root at once because it works really good and has farly not as much crapware as others, so I´m able to wait. But I don´t need xposed desperatly, I badly need Adway,Titanium and some others more.
It´s still not clear if xposed will work under lollipop.
So it´s your choice, it´s up to you. You can stay on Kitkat,root and install xposed. And you can update to lollipop later,when/if xposed is running.
Or you can stay stock,wait for ota and root later wich is my way.
Coming from 2 nexus devices, i can't imagine to have a phone without unlocked bootloader, root, custom rom and kernel, that's the point of android for me, customization
Thanks all for your responses! Much appreciated! Now all i have to do is find some way of rooting the thing, vroot failed- first time ever for me
To root Moto G 4.4.4 you have to unlock the bootloader,install custom recovery and flash superSU.zip.
Just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/guide-root-moto-g-2nd-gen-2014-t2874245
But use the CWM-recovery from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/recovery-cwm-philz-touch-6-moto-g-2014-t2896586
or TWRP from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/recovery-twrp-2-8-0-1-moto-g-2014-t2896165
xposed not working
Kobro said:
first, sorry if this has been asked b4, xda/google saeearch didn't find anything.
I need xposed, and I also need root. ( both, root for other things besides xposed.)
just got my moto g2, 4.4.4., and I wanted to know, should I root now, or wait till the 5.0 update and then root? or should I root now and install xposed and not update to 5.0 when it comes out? I read online that there probably will not be xposed fully working on lollipop.
advice anyone?
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plz send a link where i can download xposed for moto g 2014 tx
najm555 said:
plz send a link where i can download xposed for moto g 2014 tx
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One post above yours.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58828974&postcount=1
So, I've been using Motorola phones since the Droid X and I've been wondering if we could possibly use 2nd init to get root. More details here: http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works
Personally, I don't really care about boot loader unlock as long as I have root. This phone has a pretty good ROM already... I just want to be able to use xposed again.
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So, I've been using Motorola phones since the Droid X and I've been wondering if we could possibly use 2nd init to get root. More details here:
Personally, I don't really care about boot loader unlock as long as I have root. This phone has a pretty good ROM already... I just want to be able to use xposed again.
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Yea.. like a kexec type of thing. I dont know much about the inner workings but it seemed to work on older devices thanks to DHacker and Hashc0de.