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[Q] Best linux OS for a newbie

So I'm guessing there is a lot of Linux guys here and I have just bought a new HDD for installing Linux. So what do you guys recommend for a total newbie (with only Linux that is) like me?
Anything else than Ubuntu
Thanks

I reckon Ubuntu is your best bet Pretty n00b friendly
Edit: lol Just noticed the big writing saying not ubuntu my bad
Try looking here http://www.linux.org/dist/
Set language to english and intel compatible and it will show all the Linux Distributions Maybe just see wht you like the look off

MacaronyMax said:
I reckon Ubuntu is your best bet Pretty n00b friendly
Edit: lol Just noticed the big writing saying not ubuntu my bad
Try looking here http://www.linux.org/dist/
Set language to english and intel compatible and it will show all the Linux Distributions Maybe just see wht you like the look off
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Thx will do
BTW how did you know I have an intel?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
Thx will do
BTW how did you know I have an intel?
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I didn't There was no AMD lol

i'm thinking about Linux now, haha, would i be able to set a dual boot on my laptop that already has XP on it?

factualpuddle said:
i'm thinking about Linux now, haha, would i be able to set a dual boot on my laptop that already has XP on it?
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Yep you would either need another harddrive or to partition your harddrive or to run in a VM

i was just gonna make another partition, and if i do, and it installs, will it automatically ask me which to boot from when i power it on?

Why not Ubuntu just out of curiosity. Don't want to start a flame war
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i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?

factualpuddle said:
i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?
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Not too big realy maybe 8GB if your not going to use it much but otherwise more

factualpuddle said:
i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?
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Ubuntu can make almost all the partition work for you

Keithod said:
Why not Ubuntu just out of curiosity. Don't want to start a flame war
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I just think it's too common and too similar to Windows I want something new

Oh okay. If you try something "exotic" let us know your feedback!! I am going to do a reinstall on my computer soon and was thinking of switching away from Ubuntu just for the sake of trying something new so I'd like to hear some objective reviews.
Have you thought about "rolling your own"?
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Keithod said:
Oh okay. If you try something "exotic" let us know your feedback!! I am going to do a reinstall on my computer soon and was thinking of switching away from Ubuntu just for the sake of trying something new so I'd like to hear some objective reviews.
Have you thought about "rolling your own"?
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What do you mean? I did write "newbie" in the title right?

Sorry I meant you can make your own. There's a site dedicated to it but you might not want to do that just yet. Have you looked at OpenSuse? Haven't used it in a while but it was good. I tried the KDE version of Federa a month or two ago. A bit buggy! Mint Linux has had some good reviews anyway just my input!
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Keithod said:
Sorry I meant you can make your own. There's a site dedicated to it but you might not want to do that just yet. Have you looked at OpenSuse? Haven't used it in a while but it was good. I tried the KDE version of Federa a month or two ago. A bit buggy! Mint Linux has had some good reviews anyway just my input!
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Personally it's only the GUI I want to have some variety in so I'm trying out "Xubuntu" which I think is Ubuntu with XDE desktop-thing-which-I-don't-remember-what's-called-thing xD I did read about openSUSE but it was too much like Ubuntu I think

For a complete noob, Ubuntu is the way to go. It'll get you started pretty quick and the interface is just a matter of choice. If you want something that's uberHaxX0rZ, try installing a tiling Window Manager such as awesome instead of Gnome (which is default in Ubuntu).
I myself use Arch Linux with gnome-panel and Compiz as a standalone Window Manager and I'm loving it!

I myself am an Ubuntu man. I'm currently digging the Ubuntu 10.10 beta. 2 weeks until the final release!

I myself is trying to use the default window manager in Kubuntu but I can't get it working It's driving me crazy :/ It just says that non of the effects could be enabled...

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
I myself is trying to use the default window manager in Kubuntu but I can't get it working It's driving me crazy :/ It just says that non of the effects could be enabled...
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This usually happens because the drivers for your graphics card aren't installed properly (or the card is ancient).
This is exactly one of the things why I personally dislike Ubuntu. If you're lucky, it'll work like a charm, but if you're not, you're gonna spend hours and hours trying to get it to work.
Either way, you can probably fix it by downloading and installing proprietary drivers for your card, since the open source ones probably don't work with your card. Though on the other hand, maybe you need to use opensource ones because the proprietary ones that installed automatically don't work? Who knows?

[Q]Ubuntu on the Atrix

I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.

Should. There was a thread in here about doing the same thing but with debian. Its probably a couple of pages back.
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I can't seem to find it. Can tell me roughly what the title was?
Also any other devs care to chime in?
Please

It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.

Sogarth said:
It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.
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Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?

RacecarBMW said:
Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?
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The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.

Sogarth said:
The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.
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Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?

RacecarBMW said:
Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?
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Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.

Sogarth said:
Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.
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ok no problem if you come along something can you please tell me.

RacecarBMW said:
I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.
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Have you seen my post on getting Debian running on the Atrix? Debian and Ubuntu are kind of similar IMO, and can run the same applications. To get it go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986071

Thank you so much that is what I wanted.
Yea I use debian on my laptop and Ubuntu on my desktop.

Glad to see I helped But the question is did it work? I know a LOT of people were having trouble with it. I did it fine with no problems, I hope it went the same way for you.

I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.

shawnbuck said:
I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.
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Thats great! Playing with Debian on the Atrix is actually quite fun. I had problems installing deb packages on it though for some reason. Have you tried installing flash on the FireWiesel browser? Failed for me. As did everything else I tried to install.

ubuntu on phones can be ported on touchpad?

So what you guys thinking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXpLUr5WB4

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So what you guys thinking?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoXpLUr5WB4
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if someone got this working for a touchpad, i would be willing to give up android and webos for this. i am actually a fan of webos and i wish it had better support. i am just a user and no dev, so in reality i am not a solution.

With most things android it will just require the right people and circumstances and it can happen. But the touchpad has had its issues with compatibility and not to short any of the devs here, it seems that there are fewer with touchpads than other devices so ya never know.

As soon as we get 13.04 fully working on the Touchpad (well, at least to a point where it is useable like the 12.10 now) then we can get Ubuntu for Phones. It's not so much the kernel because they're gonna fully open source Ubuntu for Phones by the end of this month so we only need to port the GUI over to the 13.04 base (which should be doable).
Though I'm not sure how useable it would be. I mean, it's targeted for 4-5 inch phones so will it be useable and not just a stretched lay-out like the old Android 2.3 tablets?

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As soon as we get 13.04 fully working on the Touchpad (well, at least to a point where it is useable like the 12.10 now) then we can get Ubuntu for Phones. It's not so much the kernel because they're gonna fully open source Ubuntu for Phones by the end of this month so we only need to port the GUI over to the 13.04 base (which should be doable).
Though I'm not sure how useable it would be. I mean, it's targeted for 4-5 inch phones so will it be useable and not just a stretched lay-out like the old Android 2.3 tablets?
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Considering that Shuttleworth announced ubuntu for tablets within the last couple days, I think we can be hopeful that a "tablet ubuntu" will end up on the touchpad a short time after it ends up on other android devices.

Basically, its as easy to build as CM.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/porting-ubuntu-touch-is-as-simple-as-building-cm/
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This can be done.
Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.
I will keep this page updated ad i get progress or crash and burn, Either way. Unless Divine_Madcat decides to close this thread as well.

theskymoves said:
Considering that Shuttleworth announced ubuntu for tablets within the last couple days, I think we can be hopeful that a "tablet ubuntu" will end up on the touchpad a short time after it ends up on other android devices.
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Yes, but when I posted that on February 10 there was no Ubuntu for Tablets yet. But indeed, now there is so it'll probably come to our Touchpad.

modem_over said:
This can be done.
Pulled sources this morning and cross compiled. In the emulator everything works perfectly. Will have to to wait till the USPS brings me my new tablet in the next few days to be sure. But i think i can have something ready to go fairly soon.
I have done ports before with some success. you just gotta understand, getting it running and getting the hardware support are two very different things.
I will keep this page updated ad i get progress or crash and burn, Either way. Unless Divine_Madcat decides to close this thread as well.
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Willing to test any alpha builds and such
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Its still a developer preview, I tried it on my nexus 7 and its cool and all but not groundbreaking yet.
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Waiting for cm10.1 for touchpad because I would love to give this a look.

Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Well if you do get a port working for the Touchpad please let me know. I am very interested in giving this a try.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Make a new thread once you are able to release something.

modem_over said:
Still working in this. Getting the partitioning changed on the Touchpad is a nightmare. I forgot how easy an emulator made some things.
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Did you see my scripts I made for the TouchpadBuntu project? Might be a good starting point. The install script had been verified good by many people though I think I left out a line on the uninstall script, if I remember correctly.

JesusFreak316 said:
Did you see my scripts I made for the TouchpadBuntu project? Might be a good starting point. The install script had been verified good by many people though I think I left out a line on the uninstall script, if I remember correctly.
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Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.

modem_over said:
Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.
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Exactly. I thought it was CM10.1 but the base of this is CM. It still will take effort to port, but it's not the same as other Ubuntu variants that have been releases for TP.
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modem_over said:
Most ov the content at https://code.google.com/p/hp-touchpad-ubuntu/ is not super helpful at this point. The base for the Ubuntu touch system is CM10. The native ubuntuArm project is a much more pure version of the Ubuntu system than the Ubuntu touch system will ever be that it makes half of the files unusable.
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I just meant for the partitioning part that he was having trouble with. My scripts didn't have much to do with Ubuntu itself, more terminal commands run within WebOS to create the necessary partitions for Ubuntu. I think those might help still though, if someone wants to keep Android instead of replacing it with Ubuntu Touch.

JesusFreak316 said:
I just meant for the partitioning part that he was having trouble with. My scripts didn't have much to do with Ubuntu itself, more terminal commands run within WebOS to create the necessary partitions for Ubuntu. I think those might help still though, if someone wants to keep Android instead of replacing it with Ubuntu Touch.
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Yes, I have found that to be helpful. I think with that partitioning should be finished up tonight. Who knows. Class for the next few days than back to this project.
Thanks man.
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Yes, I have found that to be helpful. I think with that partitioning should be finished up tonight. Who knows. Class for the next few days than back to this project.
Thanks man.
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Looks like someone else has this going. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175277

Unlocking and rooting

I tried all known methods for rooting but all failed.
Even when you unlock it there is still no TWRP available for the 701.
I asked the devs of twrp on their website to take a look at the 701.
If anyone has more knowledge about progress made on this subject please react here.
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Knock it Off Please
Ok, forum just opened and;
1. Posted in the development forum instead of General or Q & A (shame shame)
2. Flaming already starts
Knock it off people. Jeeze..... Things will come in good time. Unless of course you want to rush things and brick yer tabs
Keep it clean people.
MD

Now, if you have fastboot OEM unlock,
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Then perhaps you can pull your boot.img, separate zImage from Ramdisk, modify ro.secure=0, add RW comments, repack your boot.img, fastboot flash boot boot.img, then install BB and SU.
Just a thought.
MD

Moscow Desire said:
Now, if you have fastboot OEM unlock,
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Then perhaps you can pull your boot.img, separate zImage from Ramdisk, modify ro.secure=0, add RW comments, repack your boot.img, fastboot flash boot boot.img, then install BB and SU.
Just a thought.
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Sad part the "Fastboot OEM unlock" won't work cause Asus has theirs encrypted. You have to use their unlocking tool to unlock your bootloader. Given fact it can work, been trying it for 2 days now and stupid app won't unlock my bootloader. Read my S/N may not be registered in their database so emailed them complaining about another service that doesn't work.

Tiger62651 said:
Sad part the "Fastboot OEM unlock" won't work cause Asus has theirs encrypted. You have to use their unlocking tool to unlock your bootloader. Given fact it can work, been trying it for 2 days now and stupid app won't unlock my bootloader. Read my S/N may not be registered in their database so emailed them complaining about another service that doesn't work.
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They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)

I think that unlocking bootloader is bad idea. After that the warranty will be void...

Moscow Desire said:
They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)
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Yeah well tried to call them and got the usual "just send it back" well not waiting 2-3 weeks just get to get it back. Since there is something wrong with the charge port anyways just gonna send it back to amazon to have new one in couple days. Gotta love the return policy.
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I think that unlocking bootloader is bad idea. After that the warranty will be void...
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Um thats just lame excuse from companies to force us to keep their crap on the devices we purchase. All my devices are rooted and unlocked and not one has died yet. After going through and disabling 2/3rds of crap on this tablet now I want that few hundred megabytes back in space. For as much crap I disabled I wouldn't be surprised im more close to 1gb back.

Moscow Desire said:
They'll get around to it. Heck, when I had to turn in my A701 to service center, they didn't even know it had been released Tried telling me it was a "leaked and illegal" tablet.
Good luck with the bootloader mate, but root after that should be pretty straight forward. (fingers crossed)
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What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.

Snah001 said:
What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.
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Hate returns. Took 3 months to get a refund. (welcome to Russia). Honestly, it was all due to rush jobs on CWM for the 510 and 700's. Bozos were in a rush to be the first, and used the "fstab's" from the wrong device. Bricked several tabs before I put a stop to it. Basically ruined the emmc memory. Mainboard replacements.
Well, I know folks are itchy to get things going. What starts as a joke, turns into flaming.
You folks always remember, takes 2 people for an argument. You all have the "Report Post" button on the toolbar. Please use it.
Honestly, I expect you folks to help each other out. Makes for a better forum.
Carry On!
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Snah001 said:
What a morons sometimes. Strange because I had the issue with the connection between dock and tablet where the connection between the 2 for a split moment was gone when adjusting the tilt angle, I got an immediate replacement. This problem I guarantee you we will see more often showing up here.
And what the rooting concerns: when the TWRP devs have their version for the 701 finished, it will be not that hard anymore. Just takes some time before that is done.
And for the flaming thing sorry, but I don't like to get hit by childish behavior when just reporting and next to that by a guy that is probably half my age and just comes looking in here (look @ date I joined xda lol)
Thanks for removing that post.
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well next time you may want to think twice before asuming someone younger than you. guess i am to young to know where the movie that reference came from. i already have the boot.img altered and ready to try. also dont ask for it, havent tested it yet so going to have to wait till amazon gives me new one. it really isnt hard to alter, moscow already gave instructions.

Update Amazon has shipped my new tablet so may be here tomorrow (i hope) if my new boot.img works and gives me root then I will pass it on, sadly though it won't be in a format in which you can just use a custom recovery, you have to flash it manually but if it works I will post how to flash it (all i need to remember is which tools to zip up in the entire SDK) LOL.

Interesting discussion..
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Tiger62651 said:
Um thats just lame excuse from companies to force us to keep their crap on the devices we purchase. All my devices are rooted and unlocked and not one has died yet. After going through and disabling 2/3rds of crap on this tablet now I want that few hundred megabytes back in space. For as much crap I disabled I wouldn't be surprised im more close to 1gb back.
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It is VERY lame. I sold my TF700 because of the slow I/O causing lag that I couldn't live with. Of course I had the bootloader unlocked, so the warranty was void. I divulged that info in the eBay auction for the most part (I didn't say the warranty was void because I didn't know that was the case. Ignorant, I know). Anyway, the new owner of my TF700 emailed me after a couple months asking me why ASUS was charging them $280 for fixing the faulty touchscreen. They said ASUS says it's not under warranty because of the unlocked bootloader. I felt bad for the new owners, having to fork out the money. They're $800 into the TF700 w/dock at this point.
So I would say: Think twice before unlocking the bootloader on the TF701, when custom-recovery even comes out for it.
Personally, with my TF701 that I ordered on newgg today, I am going to leave the bootloader locked for awhile. I can live with the stock ROM, hopefully with root access. Maybe after a few months I'll unlock the bootloader. It would be nice to do it in a way that didn't void the warranty. What an asinine policy by ASUS. There is no way the unlocked bootloader led to the touchscreen failing on my old TF700....no way!

snake2332 said:
It is VERY lame. I sold my TF700 because of the slow I/O causing lag that I couldn't live with. Of course I had the bootloader unlocked, so the warranty was void. I divulged that info in the eBay auction for the most part (I didn't say the warranty was void because I didn't know that was the case. Ignorant, I know). Anyway, the new owner of my TF700 emailed me after a couple months asking me why ASUS was charging them $280 for fixing the faulty touchscreen. They said ASUS says it's not under warranty because of the unlocked bootloader. I felt bad for the new owners, having to fork out the money. They're $800 into the TF700 w/dock at this point.
So I would say: Think twice before unlocking the bootloader on the TF701, when custom-recovery even comes out for it.
Personally, with my TF701 that I ordered on newgg today, I am going to leave the bootloader locked for awhile. I can live with the stock ROM, hopefully with root access. Maybe after a few months I'll unlock the bootloader. It would be nice to do it in a way that didn't void the warranty. What an asinine policy by ASUS. There is no way the unlocked bootloader led to the touchscreen failing on my old TF700....no way!
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Gee thanks for the advice. Lets just say for practicality so you know when I got my Xoom 2 days later I rooted it. Couple years later works fine just slow now so time for new one. I have 701 right now and its blazing fast.
2nd let me shine some advise for you. For starters you can't "root" a device with a locked bootloader. Requires altering the boot.img to tell system to boot up differently and allow you access to the "restricted" file system. To access the flash portion of that requires you to open it up. One way or another you will have to unlock the bootloader to root the device. I myself just want root, I want to just remove the unwanted junk and free up that wasted space and install ad blocking software.
What each person chooses to do with the root is up to them, regardless if Asus wants to void the warranty or not. Just need little common sense and know how to use google to figure what you want to do. If your to cautious to do that then I highly suggest not touching it and leave it as is. To me its never a "think twice" once you root and have full access to the product you bought, it makes the device so much better to use and gets rid of unwanted bloatware. Especially the ad blocking apps which helps on phone contracts with capped data helps keep your data way down since ads use a lot of data.

Tiger62651 said:
2nd let me shine some advise for you. For starters you can't "root" a device with a locked bootloader. Requires altering the boot.img to tell system to boot up differently and allow you access to the "restricted" file system. To access the flash portion of that requires you to open it up. One way or another you will have to unlock the bootloader to root the device. I myself just want root, I want to just remove the unwanted junk and free up that wasted space and install ad blocking software.
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Your statements sound completely wrong to me. Of course you can root without unlocking the bootloader. I have rooted two phones and my TF201, all without unlocking; I rooted the TF201 soon after buying it, and only unlocked the bootloader more than a year later.
Rooting doesn't force you to forfeit warranty service, but unlocking does. (Note that you can unroot a device before sending it in for service, but you can't "relock" an unlocked device.) So it makes perfect sense as Snake suggests to hold off on unlocking, at least until you are sure all the hardware in your device is working perfectly.

Tiger62651 said:
Update Amazon has shipped my new tablet so may be here tomorrow (i hope) if my new boot.img works and gives me root then I will pass it on, sadly though it won't be in a format in which you can just use a custom recovery, you have to flash it manually but if it works I will post how to flash it (all i need to remember is which tools to zip up in the entire SDK) LOL.
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You can use a windows app called Virtuous Ten Studio (created by Diamondback ) Senior Mod and RD. It'll unpack your boot.img to allow editing ramdisk. Heck, it'll also de-odex, decompile apks with built in support for most API levels in a windows UI. No need to mess with apktools and such.
Free version in the XDA forums. Think you have to install latest MS .Net though. Can't remember. Give it a go. If you're a ROM cooker, it's a must.
An unlocked bootloader is usually 90% of the battle when getting full root (full means system RW access). Locked bootloaders is why rooting can involve finding exploits, which is why so many root apps are out there. Not saying what worked on the Acer 500/501, 510/511 and 700/701 tabs will work for the TF701, but it's worth investigating.

Moscow Desire said:
You can use a windows app called Virtuous Ten Studio (created by Diamondback ) Senior Mod and RD. It'll unpack your boot.img to allow editing ramdisk. Heck, it'll also de-odex, decompile apks with built in support for most API levels in a windows UI. No need to mess with apktools and such.
Free version in the XDA forums. Think you have to install latest MS .Net though. Can't remember. Give it a go. If you're a ROM cooker, it's a must.
An unlocked bootloader is usually 90% of the battle when getting full root (full means system RW access). Locked bootloaders is why rooting can involve finding exploits, which is why so many root apps are out there. Not saying what worked on the Acer 500/501, 510/511 and 700/701 tabs will work for the TF701, but it's worth investigating.
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Thanks for the windows tip but I use VMware with Ubuntu installed and have my harddrive mapped as network drive to transfer files between. Much easier this way. I will check out the program though may need it for some APK altering of certain app (I hope).

Tiger62651 said:
Thanks for the windows tip but I use VMware with Ubuntu installed and have my harddrive mapped as network drive to transfer files between. Much easier this way. I will check out the program though may need it for some APK altering of certain app (I hope).
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Ha, I use a dual boot (win7 and Ubuntu). Old lappy didn't run too well with VM. Need any help, shoot me a PM. Will share what I know.
There's a few other things you can do im Ramdisk, like increase read ahead cache, run a service to update lto.dat automatically (GPS) and a few others.
I only boot to win7 when I want to unpack/repack and boot images when I do kernel builds. (I'm lazy)
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Moscow Desire said:
Ha, I use a dual boot (win7 and Ubuntu). Old lappy didn't run too well with VM. Need any help, shoot me a PM. Will share what I know.
There's a few other things you can do im Ramdisk, like increase read ahead cache, run a service to update lto.dat automatically (GPS) and a few others.
I only boot to win7 when I want to unpack/repack and boot images when I do kernel builds. (I'm lazy)
MD
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Yeah that works just pain to have to shut down windows to boot ubuntu. My PC is a power house, set VMware with 4gb of RAM and still not slowing my PC down LOL.

well new tablet in and little troubleshooting seems problem is bad charge cable, new one starts to charge 1/2 way in, other little flaky. but even new tablet fresh out of box wont let me unlock it so asus tw asked for screen shot of my ids, waiting reply.

M8 Windows?

More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed

That story popped up on my BlinkFeed. It will become real news if Sprint every gets their hands on it.

Hopefully there is an m8 max

Popped up on mine also. I haven't used a window phone since the T-Mobile shadow.
method1911 M8

I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
lawnguy said:
I've become really interested in Windows since 8. This would cool in my opinion.
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cfcgasman said:
I really hope someone can dual boot the M8 between the Android and Windows.. That would be great for Windows phone operating system in general. People will get to try them and realize that they aren't that bad at all (as compared to what they used to be).
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More than likely, this will happen. Especially if the hardware is exactly the same, I foresee this for the near future.

I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.

Samsung is coming out with dual boot tablets.
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Thisismyringtone said:
I would totally be down giving windows a go on this phone. i have never used a windows phone before.
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I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?

mstrblueskys said:
I love Android and Windows Phone. I have found that as Windows machines get smaller (My Dell venue pro 8, for instance), they are making my phone more of a messaging and talking device again. It's funny how this works. I'd love to get in on the WP action.
Unless they announce a WebOS option... we can dream, right?
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I would love to see what WebOS would be like on a device like this. My first smartphone was a Palm Pixi, and the interface was wonderful. It got really slow with time, and full data wipes didn't help anymore.
But that's just wishful thinking.

Back on topic, tho. Can anyone weigh in and comment on how likely it is that we'll be able to install the version of Windows Phone that was just released on our Sprint/Android versions?

motoelliot said:
More HTC One (M8) for Windows launch details leak out
http://www.phonedog.com/2014/07/29/...=Rss&utm_medium=Latest&utm_campaign=BlinkFeed
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not really a leak....it's official...http://blog.htc.com/2014/08/htc-one-m8-for-windows/
exclusive for Verizon....not interested....Android FTW!

No, I'm not converting to WM either, even if it was to come to Sprint. However, I have never even seen WM live in person, and I wouldn't mind giving the Rom a flash.

Same here. I wouldn't buy it but if there was a port for Android m8 I would definitely flash the rom

I've suggested to HTC to make a dual boot for their top phone. So that, no matter which you buy, you can switch as you like. I guess it's gonna benefit MS more than HTC，but it could be a nice push for sale of the phone because it's just another unique feature that nobody really bothered to do.
I've used the WP 7 for a long time and like that very well. Since now the M8 takes SD card, the storage space is less a concern, so makes this even more workable.
IMO the best will be dual boot, so that you can choose on bootup, the second will be a flash, which would be harder to change. But either way, it'll be very neat.

Was just thinking the exact same thing
I've seen the buzz lately about the m8 Windows version, and when it finally clicked that they both had the same hardware I started digging around to see if I could find info on a possible port.
I did find this YouTube video, posted today, but the poster didn't give much information, only a link to what appears to be a ROM file https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FHG7Uq3a8
Maybe someone more experienced than myself could look into the .zip to see what's going on in there or maybe help me find out where it came from - I'm sure this link didn't pop up from nowhere if it is truly legit.

Video was removed

found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8

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found it file is less than 1mb .exe didnt want to risk it on my computer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHUoznxjb8
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Yeah, I checked it out and downloaded then ran it through an online virus scan, I don't trust it.
The video I posted before had a link to an 800mb file or so