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Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
Groid said:
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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It does affect the unlocked bootloader people, that is why some people are waiting for the sbf. If you update via the OTA, it will install the new bootloader, regardless of lock status. Once on this new 4.4.2 bootloader, it is impossible to flash any stock images before 4.4.2 (you cannot go back to 4.4 or 4.4.2).
But why would you want to go back if you have an unlocked bootloader already? I don't really see any reason to flash an image that is earlier than the latest... if I were Moto, I would let people flash the earliest system image of that version of android (4.4 kitkat in our case). This would rectify the root situation (because 4.2.2 isn't kitkat), and it would keep the people happy as well.
varxx said:
Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
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You absolutely can manually flash the system image while having the 4.4 bootloader, you can also flash any 4.4.2 stock based ROM such as the 1052 European ROM that showed up today.
I was actually running the gummy ROM 4.4.2 while still on the 4.4 bootloader without any issue
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
I have a unlocked 1058 going to be used under t-mobile. I'm wondering should I root before upgrade to 4.4.4 or vice versa? Pros and Cons?
Doesn't matter one way or another. Unlock bootloader, take OTA or flash manually, flash recovery, flash su.zip, done.
If you root(or have custom recovery) before update you have to flash manually, if you for-go rooting right away you can take the OTA. If you try OTA with custom recovery you'll boot loop (kinda, you start your phone and then it shutsdown to go into recovery after a minute or two). So avoid that if possible.
skyliney said:
I have a unlocked 1058 going to be used under t-mobile. I'm wondering should I root before upgrade to 4.4.4 or vice versa? Pros and Cons?
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By unlocked, you mean SIM unlocked, or Bootloader unlocked (if ATT XT1058 via China Middleman, if Rogers XT1058 or other via Moto web site)?
Take OTA, then root...
Why? To root you need to install custom recovery (like TWRP). To take the OTA you need stock recovery...
So... Root first is Flash TWRP, Root, flash stock recovery, take OTA. Or... Upgrade first would be Take OTA, flash TWRP and root.
If your XT1058 is only SIM unlocked, and not bootloader unlocked, then do not take the OTA as you wont be able to root it.
KidJoe said:
By unlocked, you mean SIM unlocked, or Bootloader unlocked (if ATT XT1058 via China Middleman, if Rogers XT1058 or other via Moto web site)?
Take OTA, then root...
Why? To root you need to install custom recovery (like TWRP). To take the OTA you need stock recovery...
So... Root first is Flash TWRP, Root, flash stock recovery, take OTA. Or... Upgrade first would be Take OTA, flash TWRP and root.
If your XT1058 is only SIM unlocked, and not bootloader unlocked, then do not take the OTA as you wont be able to root it.
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You guys are awesome! Thanks!
Hey there,
I recently bought a brand new 1st gen Moto X and its currently running Jelly Bean 4.2.2. When I try to update it, it says "Your device is up to date! No update is necessary at this time.".
I've never flashed a ROM before so its new to me. But could I get a factory Kit Kat image and flash it with the stock recovery? To do that, do I need to unlock my bootloader?
Any help would be appreciated! I'm very sick of Jelly Bean.
Thanks.
What model of Moto X do you have? The model number is listed on the back of the device near the bottom. It will say XT10## where the last two numbers indicate what model you have for a specific carrier.
Your carrier may not have the 4.4.4 update available yet.
Yeah I've got the XT1058 on Rogers in Canada. My sister also has an XT1058 on Rogers, but she has gotten Kit Kat OTA.
I just think it should have gotten Kit Kat by now. Is it risky to flash a factory Kit Kat image?
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Yeah I've got the XT1058 on Rogers in Canada. My sister also has an XT1058 on Rogers, but she has gotten Kit Kat OTA.
I just think it should have gotten Kit Kat by now. Is it risky to flash a factory Kit Kat image?
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Nope, not risky. That's what I would do.
Follow the instructions in the "Return to 100% stock" thread. Should take less than 15 minutes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
Since the leaked 4.4.4 sbf isn't available yet (at least not on droid-developers), I suggest flashing Rogers 4.4.2 ( here is the link: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=822 )
Afterwards, you can take the update to 4.4.4.
To answer a couple of your questions: Follow the instructions in the linked return to stock thread. Everything you need is in there. You do NOT flash from recovery - you flash using "RSD Lite" or "mfastboot". Also, unlocked BL is *NOT* required to flash your stock, signed firmware. As long as you read the instructions, this should be very simple.
Want either to cancel forced AT&T update or flash the 5.1 OTA zip without formating
Hello, recently, my step-father got a dip with's LG G2 and decide to buy a Moto X from Ebay and it came bootloader unlocked with AT&T Kitkat 4.4.4. Today, we opened it and it asked to do the update at which i heard there was some issue with the update and they pulled it off. He's an user who only want stability, so that why when he got it and i saw it was bootloader unlocked i install TWRP and roooted it.
So i have 2 choose, try to cancel the force update because he reboot to recovery for trying to install it and it's not flashing at all or simply try to update without losing the data. If i need to, i would like to flash the stock recovery of AT&T. It's not a contract phone, i buyed it on ebay and i am using it with Roger in Canada, so i don't want to get it brick. Thank you.
If you update it, you will never be able to unlock the bootloader on the AT&T phone again. It is unlockable after update. If you want to flash kit kat 4.4.4, why don't you just flash a Rogers 4.4.4 rom from xda on it? Why even take an ota to lollipop when you don't want to because of issues? You won't be able to go back. I would just flash Rogers stock modded with twrp, or in my opinion, flash eclipse 4.4.4, it has all moto stock options and is faster and better battery life. But if you want to flash lollipop ota, you have to flash back original at&T recovery.
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http://www.filefactory.com/file/2kmrq89bx1h/XT1058_GHOST_ATT_5.1_LPA23.12-21.1_cid1_CFC.xml.zip
That's the stock [email protected] rom lollipop rom. You can flash that and it will lock your bootloader, put stock recovery and unroot but you can't unlock the bootloader again and can't go back. If you want the stock lollipop KitKat rom, I can get that
Well, finally, i freezed the update module with titaniumbackup on the stock 4.4.4 kitkat from AT&T on the moto x, i will wait for a modded zip file debloated to flash later.
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
Question:
To upgrade to 5.1 do I just need to revert back to stock boot loader and do an OTA update?
Will the OTA re-lock my boot loader?
After the upgrade to 5.1 do I just reload TWRP recovery and flash SU for root access again?
No the new updates do not relock the bootloader. I suggest you first try out the Lollipop by flashing it through latest version of TWRP. If you think you can live with it than just flash complete stock through rsdlite or manually by fastboot. Reason I say that is because once you take the OTA it will update both bootloader version and the partition tables which means you won't be able to revert back to a lower Android version without the risk of bricking your device.
Sent from my Moto X
bushako said:
No the new updates do not relock the bootloader. I suggest you first try out the Lollipop by flashing it through latest version of TWRP. If you think you can live with it than just flash complete stock through rsdlite or manually by fastboot. Reason I say that is because once you take the OTA it will update both bootloader version and the partition tables which means you won't be able to revert back to a lower Android version without the risk of bricking your device.
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I don't want to go back to complete stock, I want to keep bootloader unlocked and root. Is there a stock rooted rom out there I can flash w/ TWRP without having to do OTA or flashing the recovery back to stock?
Yes there is its in the development section. You'll read the thread something like xt1053 stock flash-able. It contains only the kernel and system files so you should be good.
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
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-RanZ- said:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
Question:
To upgrade to 5.1 do I just need to revert back to stock boot loader and do an OTA update?
Will the OTA re-lock my boot loader?
After the upgrade to 5.1 do I just reload TWRP recovery and flash SU for root access again?
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First off, there is no Verizon 5.1 yet. So any 5.1 you try will be for a different model, and if you flash a full rom, it will have different radios (which don't work for CDMA that Verizon still uses for voice/3g data. If you keep your stock VZW radio files, keep in mind they will be on a different version than the rest of the rom which could cause some inconsistencies and issues. IF you do flash a FULL SBF, you will be stuck with no SAFE way to revert to 4.4.4 due to GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img (for more on this, see the link in my signature), and you'll have to wait for the Verizon 5.1 SBF to get back to Verizon's rom.
Next, to install an OTA update, when it becomes available, you need STOCK RECOVERY on your phone. The OTA also does a pre-flash check/validation of your phone before it flashes, so if anything it looks for is not what it expects, the OTA will fail. Because of that you need to be 100% stock, or very near to it.
Finally, NO, an OTA will not relock your bootloader, nor will flashing an SBF.
For more on taking an OTA, see the link in my signature on OTA Updates..
That being said, if you TRY a 5.1 rom that is out there for another model you best bet is to find one that is a TWRP back up of 5.1 installed on someone's phone, since it only updates system.img and boot.img. It may not work 100% (because part of your phone will still have the 4.4.4 files), but it will give you a taste and you could later revert back to the stock 4.4.4 which you currently have on your phone. IF you flash a FULL SBF, you might be stuck with no way to revert to 4.4.4 due to GPT.BIN/Motoboot.img (for more on this, see the link in my signature)
Hi Bushako, I've Moto X Verizon XT1060 and it's struck in 4.2.2 android. When I try to update using setting, about phone and system update it show there is no update available but the android version on it is 4.2.2
5.1 is available for Verizon Moto X 1st gen now isn't it? I am googling for a detailed process on how to update from 4.2.2 to 5.1 and keeping root but not having any luck finding anything. Is it easy to update from 4.2.2 stock rooted to 5.1? The specs of my phone are the same as the original post:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
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5.1 is available for Verizon Moto X 1st gen now isn't it? I am googling for a detailed process on how to update from 4.2.2 to 5.1 and keeping root but not having any luck finding anything. Is it easy to update from 4.2.2 stock rooted to 5.1? The specs of my phone are the same as the original post:
Verizon
Moto X 1st Gen
Android 4.2.2 - Stock rooted
Unlocked Boot loader - not DEV edition though
TWRP 2.7.1.1 recovery
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Aug 1, when I last posted in this thread, Verizon 5.1 wasn't available. It is now.
As for updating and keeping root, there are a few ways to do it. Since you say your Bootloader is unlocked, the best way is flash 5.1 SBF, and use the process of flashing TWRP and SuperSU to root and have Write protection Disabled (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217 ). If you're bootloader isn't unlocked yet, and if you are on 4.4.2 or lower and have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4 or 5.1, use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader FIRST
If you're bootloader isn't unlocked, there is only one way to root 5.1, but it doesn't disable write protection, and its risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
KidJoe said:
Aug 1, when I last posted in this thread, Verizon 5.1 wasn't available. It is now.
As for updating and keeping root, there are a few ways to do it. Since you say your Bootloader is unlocked, the best way is flash 5.1 SBF, and use the process of flashing TWRP and SuperSU to root and have Write protection Disabled (see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217 ). If you're bootloader isn't unlocked yet, and if you are on 4.4.2 or lower and have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4 or 5.1, use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader FIRST
If you're bootloader isn't unlocked, there is only one way to root 5.1, but it doesn't disable write protection, and its risky because it intentionally soft bricks the phone back to the Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader mode.
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Bootloader is unlocked, I get the warning every time I restart the phone.
Where can I find the SBF files? Every post I find from a search the links do not work.
Are the SBF files stock or from someone else's phone?
Do I flash the files with my currently installed TWRP?
When I flash the SBF does it remove TWRP so I have to re flash it?
Are there any radio upgrades/do they get done w/ the SBF?
Sorry if these are basic questions, I have not done much phone rooting since my old HTC Incredible.
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Bootloader is unlocked, I get the warning every time I restart the phone.
Where can I find the SBF files? Every post I find from a search the links do not work.
Are the SBF files stock or from someone else's phone?
Do I flash the files with my currently installed TWRP?
When I flash the SBF does it remove TWRP so I have to re flash it?
Are there any radio upgrades/do they get done w/ the SBF?
Sorry if these are basic questions, I have not done much phone rooting since my old HTC Incredible.
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There is a link in my signature to a thread containing the known places that were hosting the SBF/FXZ files. That is the only place I can suggest you look.
SBF/FXZ files I'm taking about are stock, and digitally signed by Motorola. They can be flashed on phones with locked or unlocked bootloaders. NOTE: make sure you get the SBF for your device model and carrier!!
You flash these via Mfastboot or RSDLite. When using these tools you are flashing back to stock. After you get the SBF file, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 and read the REQUIREMENTS section, and pick either Option 3, 4 or 5 to actually flash (only use one option. which ever you find the easiest. Do NOT use Option 1 or 2 as they would not apply to your situation). I usually recommend option 5.
Yes, the process of flashing the entire SBF will overwrite TWRP with stock recovery. You'll need to flash it later as part of the rooting process.
Yes there are radio updates in the newer SBF files.
So basically, you flash to stock 5.1 by using the SBF files (following the requirements and ONE of the options in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 again,I usually recommend option 5), then root by following http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217
One other tip... Make a back up of your phone BEFORE YOU FLASH. copy all data from the /sdcard area to your PC, make a list of all your apps, etc. And seriously consider erasing your UserData while flashing (wipes the phone clear), or doing a factory reset before you flash.
I only say this because 5.1 seems more stable (and less buggy) if a factory reset is done before/during the upgrade process.
EDIT: The 5.1 SBF file you want for a Verizon XT1060 is GHOST_VERIZON_5.1_LPA23.12-39.7_cid2_CFC.xml.zip and is available from -> http://motofirmware.center/files/category/11-moto-x-1st-generation/
KidJoe said:
There is a link in my signature to a thread containing the known places that were hosting the SBF/FXZ files. That is the only place I can suggest you look.
SBF/FXZ files I'm taking about are stock, and digitally signed by Motorola. They can be flashed on phones with locked or unlocked bootloaders. NOTE: make sure you get the SBF for your device model and carrier!!
You flash these via Mfastboot or RSDLite. When using these tools you are flashing back to stock. After you get the SBF file, see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 and read the REQUIREMENTS section, and pick either Option 3, 4 or 5 to actually flash (only use one option. which ever you find the easiest. Do NOT use Option 1 or 2 as they would not apply to your situation). I usually recommend option 5.
Yes, the process of flashing the entire SBF will overwrite TWRP with stock recovery. You'll need to flash it later as part of the rooting process.
Yes there are radio updates in the newer SBF files.
So basically, you flash to stock 5.1 by using the SBF files (following the requirements and ONE of the options in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61142892&postcount=2 again,I usually recommend option 5), then root by following http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-how-to-root-5-1-unlocked-t3140217
One other tip... Make a back up of your phone BEFORE YOU FLASH. copy all data from the /sdcard area to your PC, make a list of all your apps, etc. And seriously consider erasing your UserData while flashing (wipes the phone clear), or doing a factory reset before you flash.
I only say this because 5.1 seems more stable (and less buggy) if a factory reset is done before/during the upgrade process.
EDIT: The 5.1 SBF file you want for a Verizon XT1060 is GHOST_VERIZON_5.1_LPA23.12-39.7_cid2_CFC.xml.zip and is available from -> http://motofirmware.center/files/category/11-moto-x-1st-generation/
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I will give this a try if I can locate the correct SBF files, your information has helped greatly, Thanks!
nevermind, google fixed me.