Alright it's a new year, CES is just around the corner and rumors regarding the One 2 are steadily coming in. One in this article says the camera will have two lenses for low light and regular light pictures.
Let's make this the official thread for rumors as to not clutter up the forum
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/htc-on...have-separate-camera-lenses-rumor-02-01-2014/
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Alright it's a new year, CES is just around the corner and rumors regarding the One 2 are steadily coming in. One in this article says the camera will have two lenses for low light and regular light pictures.
Let's make this the official thread for rumors as to not clutter up the forum
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/htc-on...have-separate-camera-lenses-rumor-02-01-2014/
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It'd be nice if they would simply make an 8-ultra-pixel camera, I only skipped the "One" simply because of the resolution limitations & memory-expansion.
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It'd be nice if they would simply make an 8-ultra-pixel camera, I only skipped the "One" simply because of the resolution limitations & memory-expansion.
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Memory expansion was a big deal and I almost didn't get the one because of that.
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Memory expansion was a big deal and I almost didn't get the one because of that.
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Was? Curious, is it still an issue for you? I almost passed on the one for the same thing. And even though there are times I wish it was there, not having it hasn't been as annoying as I thought it might be.
Not likely to be a big factor in any future phone purchases for me since I've learned to get on without it
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It would be out sometime q1 of 2014. By the time Verizon gets it along with other carriers it would be even longer.
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http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/532005/20131228/htc-one-m8-2014-roundup-specifications-launch.htm
This article says 10 ultra pixel camera
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Was? Curious, is it still an issue for you? I almost passed on the one for the same thing. And even though there are times I wish it was there, not having it hasn't been as annoying as I thought it might be.
Not likely to be a big factor in any future phone purchases for me since I've learned to get on without it
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I've learned to manage. I also have a galaxy note 8.0 which gave me 48 gb dropbox so that has helped too. I'd pay an extra $100 for a 64 gb One 2
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http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/532005/20131228/htc-one-m8-2014-roundup-specifications-launch.htm
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That is great news!
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That would be sweet. The cam definitely needs more geebeez under the hood.
via my sexy phONE.
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http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/532005/20131228/htc-one-m8-2014-roundup-specifications-launch.htm
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Also says it will have Beats. HTC no longer holds shares in Beats, so it won't have it. Kind of throws the validity of the article off.
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All articles are just rumors and speculation so none have much validity. You can Google HTC m8 and find articles that mention 10 ultra pixel camera but don't say anything about beats
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All articles are just rumors and speculation so none have much validity. You can Google HTC m8 and find articles that mention 10 ultra pixel camera but don't say anything about beats
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I've seen a lot about the 10 ultra pixels.
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I've seen a lot about the 10 ultra pixels.
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U guys do realize the only way to get a UltraPixel larger than 4 we will need a thicker phone to keep the sensor to pixel ratio similar since that's all the UltraPixel is
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Also says it will have Beats. HTC no longer holds shares in Beats, so it won't have it. Kind of throws the validity of the article off.
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Glad someone else saw that slip up there by them....
Gonna be in HTC best interest to not rush this device here and make sure its perfect top to bottom...
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Also says it will have Beats. HTC no longer holds shares in Beats, so it won't have it. Kind of throws the validity of the article off.
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They(HTC) no longer hold a stake in the company itself, but that doesn't mean they don't still have licensing. From what I heard, Beats will continue to be offered.....but, that could just be rumor too.....
According to these articles, it sounds like the M8 isn't going to be much better than our current device. 2GB of RAM, UltraPixel camera (no reference about actual pixel count)
I hope these specs are not correct because I will not be getting it if they are.
HTC you need to step up your game on this device.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/01/alleged-htc-m8-specs-leaked-2/?utm_source=mobilerepublic
http://www.t3.com/news/htc-m8-specs-leaked
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Yeah I hope they don't go the apple route and add a few things here and there and call it something new.
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I'm ok with the rumored specs, my main concern is what size battery is HTC going with? Anything less than 3000mAh would be an epic failure.
Short battery life was the single reason I got rid of my ONE and ended up with a LG G2.
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I'm ok with the rumored specs, my main concern is what size battery is HTC going with? Anything less than 3000mAh would be an epic failure.
Short battery life was the single reason I got rid of my ONE and ended up with a LG G2.
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The phone would need to be a bit bigger for a larger battery. I think that battery life on my DNA is awesome. Although I do run a custom rom and kernel (latest cr-palmer kernel). I really don't think that they should use a smaller battery either, hopefully it will be more advanced.
I have a feeling (other elevate members will know what I'm talking about) HTC is considering going back to removable batteries.
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I have a feeling (other elevate members will know what I'm talking about) HTC is considering going back to removable batteries.
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I just wanted a SD. The only real world significance SGS4 has over this HTC in my hand is signal strength, battery, & SD option. My S4 isn't rooted, but signal way better
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Hey guys, pretty straight forward.
Just to let you know, I really don't want an HTC one x, or any other phone with poor battery life.
Things that matter:
Screen size: 4in+
Processor
Camera quality
HARDWARE in general
Overall feel of the phone in your hand
I would prefer the least amount of plastic on the phone as possible.
Thanks guys
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HTC sensation or galaxy s 2
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Plastic is a nice thing....
Do you have a carrier preference? Are you wanting to stay with VZW?
HTC EVO 4G LTE.
Outstanding battery life.
16GB internal storage and a micro sd slot.
Blazing fast processor.
It feels solid as a rock.
It has the best screen of any phone I have ever used, 4.7 inch.
The camera on this phone is phenomenal. Here is a thread with pics from it.
All in all this is the best phone I have ever owned.
The evo 4G is very intriguing.
As far as carrier, I don't care at all.
So far the phones in the race are:
Sony xperia ion
HTC evo 4g
Samsung galaxy s3
These are just so far. Feel free to offer any handset as a suggestion. I'll put up a poll when I get into the preliminaries.
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Wait for the HTC phone that's coming to Verizon
It has a 1080 p screen so everything would be awesome
It also has an adreno 320 cup
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Wait for the HTC phone that's coming to Verizon
It has a 1080 p screen so everything would be awesome
It also has an adreno 320 cup
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What phone is that if which you speak?
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As far as carrier, I don't care at all.
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I'm jelly of ya'll that have more than one carrier with service in your area.
Does the Nexus not even get a honorable mention simply because it gets the newest Android versions before any other phones? I agree that there is better hardware on the market, but I love showing off all the new features before anyone else gets them. My buddy just posted on fb how he got ICS on his RAZR, I replied "It can't do a barrel roll." Its fun to be smug about firmware lol.
I got my hands on a SGSIII and I liked it allot, big good looking screen, felt good in my hand, fast and smooth. I rooted it and gave it back to my buddy. Plus the Galaxy S phones have good development so you wont be waiting too much longer than Nexus for custom ROMs and such..
The nexus was in the running, but the camera threw it out for me.
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If you want to be certain you'll get 1st party updates without waiting them definitely Galaxy Nexus. The camera, however, isn't too good.
Personal suggestion is S2. I haven't found one con from this phone, it's fast,I like its screen,a lot of development here, camera is excellent. It also packs a 1 6GB flash memory and a micro SD slot.
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Whatever phone that stops you from OPing threads like this before searching. There are stickies for this in other sections.
Sent from your phone you lost the game.
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Whatever phone that stops you from OPing threads like this before searching. There are stickies for this in other sections.
Sent from your phone you lost the game.
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Yes, but this was specifically for more recent phones, and I'm gonna add a poll soon for fun.
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Galaxy s3
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Galaxy s3
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You understand that post is useless because you don't provide any info about why you recommend that one...
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its rumored
HTC is crap. Go Samsung GSIII. Its nice overall hardware and software!
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Gs3 is too big... I I think I've decided on the ion... I I don't hate htc... But i do hate Microsoft lol
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Agreed! HTC is good with designs and Sense 4.0 is good...its the hardware that lags
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I'd pick HTC over any phone. Not to keen on the Incredible 4G for Verizon though. Its nothing like what the other carriers got. I'll be sticking to my Droid Incredible 2 so long as Dev's continue to support it.
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Does anyone know when HTC will ship new batches of the One? The defects (gap and raised screen) will probably be fixed by the time the 2-3 batches are released so does anyone know when they will be shipped? I upgrade in July and am hoping all these problems are gone by then
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Does anyone know when HTC will ship new batches of the One? The defects (gap and raised screen) will probably be fixed by the time the 2-3 batches are released so does anyone know when they will be shipped? I upgrade in July and am hoping all these problems are gone by then
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I didn't want to take the risk of getting the new Microphone set up they have to do because of the lawsuit with Nokia and the company that makes the mics for the one..
But there was word about ramping up production double in May
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-production-capacity-double-may
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I didn't want to take the risk of getting the new Microphone set up they have to do because of the lawsuit with Nokia and the company that makes the mics for the one..
But there was word about ramping up production double in May
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-production-capacity-double-may
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Hopefully they fix all the defects before they start making them
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Hopefully they fix all the defects before they start making them
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What defects? Sorry im a bit confused about this thread. I sell these phone and work with them daily and I really havent noticed any kind of physical defect. I'm actually pretty impressed with this device and it's design.
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What defects? Sorry im a bit confused about this thread. I sell these phone and work with them daily and I really havent noticed any kind of physical defect. I'm actually pretty impressed with this device and it's design.
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Sometimes they have gaps between the plastic and the aluminum, is it a huge deal? No. My girlfriend's one has a small gap but she doesn't care because she has a case on it anyway.
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Sometimes they have gaps between the plastic and the aluminum, is it a huge deal? No. My girlfriend's one has a small gap but she doesn't care because she has a case on it anyway.
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Yeah sometimes its not a huge deal but a lot of people have been reporting pretty big gaps and the screen not being placed in the right spot. And some are reporting dead pixels
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So you never had the One? And you're gonna wait on a "better" batch? I've had two and never had any issues. My first one was stolen.
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edub186 said:
So you never had the One? And you're gonna wait on a "better" batch? I've had two and never had any issues. My first one was stolen.
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This is a differ one .. there is a gap issue a rep opened a new one and it had the gap
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I wanted to get the HTC maxx but after seeing that it is going to come with an s4 pro I'm going to have to pass. My info is based from evleaks on blink feed. They are normally right.
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s4 pro? are they serious?
hmmmmm
edit: this article says evleaks said it would come with the s800 http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-max-specs-fingerprint-sensor-confirmed-again-picture-104571/
There's no way in hell that phone would sell if it came with the S4 pro. I think they may have received a false tip on this. I'm still believing in seeing an 800 in it.
I'm passing if it's not s800 and 64gb
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I'm passing if it's not s800 and 64gb
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It'd have to be with an S800 and at least 32GB w/ expandable memory.
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There's no way in hell that phone would sell if it came with the S4 pro. I think they may have received a false tip on this. I'm still believing in seeing an 800 in it.
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Yeah i'm agreeing with you. No way that' it's releasing with a s4. They would literally be shooting themselves in the foot if they did that.
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s4 pro? are they serious?
hmmmmm
edit: this article says evleaks said it would come with the s800 http://www.christianpost.com/news/h...rprint-sensor-confirmed-again-picture-104571/
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That's what he first said. Now today evleaks stated that it will come with s4 pro. It's on blink feed right now. Says he's positive http://androidspin.com/
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I hope htc one max come with bigger battery 3000+ and s800 but still have same size 4.7 inch :thumbup:
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vandim said:
I hope htc one max come with bigger battery 3000+ and s800 but still have same size 4.7 inch :thumbup:
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There's no room in a device of the One's size for a 3200mAh battery.
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It'd have to be with an S800 and at least 32GB w/ expandable memory.
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Thatd be even better. It's just that HTC is leaning away from external sds now
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Thatd be even better. It's just that HTC is leaning away from external sds now
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Some of the early leaked shots of the max show a removable back with SD card slot.
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That's what he first said. Now today evleaks stated that it will come with s4 pro. It's on blink feed right now. Says he's positive http://androidspin.com/
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I just find this highly unlikely.... Guess we'll see.
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I just find this highly unlikely.... Guess we'll see.
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I hope it has s800. My upgrade is real soon
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I hope it has s800. My upgrade is real soon
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Yeah mine is in January. I'm gonna cry if there's no s800 in it.
I don't think HTC can afford to give the Note 3 the advantage.
Impossible, no device has S4 Pro. Budget handsets now have Qualcomm S400 dual core chips.
It is IMPOSSIBLE that an unannounced device will ship with that
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I hope htc one max come with bigger battery 3000+ and s800 but still have same size 4.7 inch :thumbup:
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They're not gonna call it a "Max" with the same screen size. Plus, photos were already shown and it has a way larger screen.
However, I'm on the same page as most of you guys. I'd love to have it, but if it doesn't have the 800 in it, I won't get it. My plan was to get the Note 3 and get rid of that when the Max came out, but maybe I'll just keep my One and hang on to the Note 3. It just doesn't seem possible that there wouldn't be an 800 in the Max. I guess we'll see.
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Everyone is wrong sometimes.... Football had even said the One was gonna have the S4Pro too before its release back then.....
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the amount of trololol....
S4 pro sadly
I know that on paper the moto x is just a "mid range" device and i love the htc one in every single way...but sprint and its crappy service is even worst with my one. Idk if is just because is metal but my wifes galaxy s3 get better sigan everywhere we go. I heard motorola is really good with radios and anthenas and to be honest is the only phone on sprint's line up thats not a crappy samsung or an icrap that i would like to get...anyone has any input on this?
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Well allegedly there is a bug fix coming for how the one handles the 3g/4g switching. I would wait and see how 4.3 works.
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Well allegedly there is a bug fix coming for how the one handles the 3g/4g switching. I would wait and see how 4.3 works.
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So u wouldnt consider the moto x at all?
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Well I would at least wait the couple of weeks and see if things improve rather than splurging and buying another phone and paying an etf.
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If I was switching I'd consider the motox or gnote3
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So u wouldnt consider the moto x at all?
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Honestly, even with the features on the Moto X, the HTC One is the better phone. If I had my upgrade today instead of two months ago, I would still go with the One. Just my opinion though. Go to a store and try out the Moto X. See which one you like more!
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I experience the same issues as you. Wife's s3 holds onto signals better just about everywhere we go, Wi-Fi included.
the customization options for the Moto x had me drooling...until I noticed that was for the AT&T variant only.
I would hold out until 4.3 drops for sure.
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I experience the same issues as you. Wife's s3 holds onto signals better just about everywhere we go, Wi-Fi included.
the customization options for the Moto x had me drooling...until I noticed that was for the AT&T variant only.
I would hold out until 4.3 drops for sure.
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My wifi speeds are slower on my One than my S2. It's probably the metal but I don't think the iPhone has this problem. My speed test shows that I have 16 Mbps but the pages load as if I am getting 1 Mbps. Weird. Hopefully this is addressed in the 4.3 update if it's fixable
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Flash a ROM and lock it in roaming, enjoy great service until you get that termination letter. Switch carriers...profit.
Why would you downgrade lol
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Why would you downgrade lol
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because you give a lot of oil massages.
http://youtu.be/2_JQxm53114
I have a One and a Moto X and my One has been off an in my backpack for 2 weeks now. Just throwing that out there.
Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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I dunno about moto being the one who makes good modems/attenas, but I know Samsung is known for having very good ones... I don't know why you wouldn't even consider a GS4 or a Note 3. Hell, if you're gonna switch carries why don't you just keep the ONE??
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Hey I just updated to 4.3 and the camera issue is still there so Idk dude. Your call
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I don't know why people were calling this a software issue. I think the software issue they were talking about fixing was the blur.
Is the X unlockable? After the photon/atrix fiasco I vowed never to touch another Motorola device.
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I switched from the moto from the One today. I switched because of the purple camera issue. 4.3 didn't fix it. I have to say I like it a lot more.
720p screen isn't bad at all, can't really tell. Its thinner than it seems in pictures. Runs really smooth. Cam is alright but havent taken any outdoor pics, just indoor so it may look better outside. The touchless controls and notifications aren't gimmicky, you'll use and like them. Moto assist is pretty good. The only thing I miss is the speakers in front.
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I switched from the moto from the One today. I switched because of the purple camera issue. 4.3 didn't fix it. I have to say I like it a lot more.
720p screen isn't bad at all, can't really tell. Its thinner than it seems in pictures. Runs really smooth. Cam is alright but havent taken any outdoor pics, just indoor so it may look better outside. The touchless controls and notifications aren't gimmicky, you'll use and like them. Moto assist is pretty good. The only thing I miss is the speakers in front.
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Don't know why you would do this without trying to fix your ONE first... It's obviously a hardware issue, not software. You can do all those things on the ONE so technically it is a gimmick. You basically just downgraded.
Its the second one I've had with the issue. Just got tired of it. Doesn't feel like a downgrade at all. Only on a spec sheet comparison. Its not aluminum but built very nice, feels great.
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Don't know why you would do this without trying to fix your ONE first... It's obviously a hardware issue, not software. You can do all those things on the ONE so technically it is a gimmick. You basically just downgraded.
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No, actually. Active notifications alone are a god damned good reason to never go back to my One. It's life changing. Touch less controls are fantastic. AOSP + those two things, boot loader unlockable, rom interchangeability with all carrier, equally if not more smooth experience than the one plus better battery life, higher resolution camera, and the phone is repairable. My one will stay in my backpack as a backup phone, thanks.
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I haven't even unlocked or rooted mine. There's nothing to fix here.
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Hi all grabbed a Nexus 5 from Carphone warehouse this morning £5 cheaper than google! Stock was going fast when I was down there earlier.
This is a first look at the Nexus 5 and Android 4.4 Enjoy
Does it have a LED Notification light?
If so, where is it located?
can you share battery life after some time of use.. ?
Cool, thanks for the vid!
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Does it have a LED Notification light?
If so, where is it located?
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should be at the bottom like nexus 4 maybe?
i want some battery life compared to the nexus 4 test to.
battery life and camera samples - all I care about. Go!
Just got mine from cpw , battery just fully charged so will give so feedback when I can. This thing is fast, very fast. Huge improvement over N4!
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Is there a removable SD Card?
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Is there a removable SD Card?
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No.
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Thanks for the video. Great review.
Screen is good not as good as HTC one, colours not as rich and blacks not as black, video play back not as smooth as HTC one but better than my n4. Quadrant benchmark (not that this really affects daily use) is half of HTC one at 6600. Web browser very quick via chrome. Camera OK, better than n4 not as good as HTC one. (I know I'm comparing to the n4 & HTC one but these are the phones I have to compare too) .
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Hi all grabbed a Nexus 5 from Carphone warehouse this morning £5 cheaper than google! Stock was going fast when I was down there earlier.
This is a first look at the Nexus 5 and Android 4.4 Enjoy
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Could you please try if and how the USB OTG is working? I am curious if LG and Google havent made the same mistake like with Nexus 4. Thanks.
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Some battery test (when it ll be stabilezed), and some news about the speaker(s), thank you
Can't you use nexus 4 color calibration
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Jazd71 said:
Screen is good not as good as HTC one, colours not as rich and blacks not as black, video play back not as smooth as HTC one but better than my n4. Quadrant benchmark (not that this really affects daily use) is half of HTC one at 6600. Web browser very quick via chrome. Camera OK, better than n4 not as good as HTC one. (I know I'm comparing to the n4 & HTC one but these are the phones I have to compare too) .
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Its worse than the HTC One Camera? That camera is horrible, the HTC One had visible noise in daylight shots, the Nexus 5 has to be better than that. Based on the camera samples I have seen, I would say the nexus 5 has a pretty good camera.
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Yes I'm also very curious if USB otg works
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RedWingsFan said:
Does it have a LED Notification light?
If so, where is it located?
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Yes at the bottom of the device
duckied said:
Yes I'm also very curious if USB otg works
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Ive not been able to get it to work yet.
msavic6 said:
Its worse than the HTC One Camera? That camera is horrible, the HTC One had visible noise in daylight shots, the Nexus 5 has to be better than that. Based on the camera samples I have seen, I would say the nexus 5 has a pretty good camera.
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I was talking about low light performance where The One does very well