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Upgraded the suite of Moto apps two days ago (Moto Voice, Moto Actions, etc.). Since then, my bottom sensors are not working at all. I have to make sure the top sensors pick up my motion in order to wake the phone. I have covered the top sensors and verified the bottom ones are dead. Everything was working fine before the upgrade. Anyone else having this issue?
The bottom "sensors" never worked because they are not sensors- they are IR flashers. There is only one sensor and it's at the top. The bottom ones send out IR, the top picks it up.
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Hmm...I'm not sure about that. I don't have anything specific that allows me to refute your claim, however, anything I have found states the phone has 4 low powered IR sensors (one on each corner). Additionally, I used to be able to "approach" the phone from the bottom half as if I was picking it up and it would instantly light up the screen. Since the update this is not the case and I have to be high enough on the phone to be picked up by the top ones. This "bottom approach" is the same method demonstrated in the Moto Actions "demo" on the phone itself but just doesn't work anymore.
I appreciate your response but from what I've read, and my own anecdotal evidence, seems to indicate this isn't completely accurate.
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Hmm...I'm not sure about that. I don't have anything specific that allows me to refute your claim, however, anything I have found states the phone has 4 low powered IR sensors (one on each corner). Additionally, I used to be able to "approach" the phone from the bottom half as if I was picking it up and it would instantly light up the screen. Since the update this is not the case and I have to be high enough on the phone to be picked up by the top ones. This "bottom approach" is the same method demonstrated in the Moto Actions "demo" on the phone itself but just doesn't work anymore.
I appreciate your response but from what I've read, and my own anecdotal evidence, seems to indicate this isn't completely accurate.
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I'm telling you, it's the case. Turn off your lights and look very closely at your phone and you can actually see the emitters working with your own eyes. They turn on when Moto Display is off, and the moment Moto Display turns on, the emitters turn off. There are 3 emitters total- two at the bottom and one just to the right of the earpiece. Their purpose is to essentially bathe your hand in IR light, which the sensor then detects. That's how the system works. When documentation states that there are 4 low power sensors, it's really just for the layman who wouldn't necessarily understand the actual way it works without it being explained. Yes there are 4 devices on the face of the phone to make it work, but only one of them is an actual sensor. Like I said, the other 3 are emitters.
All that said, when you reach for the phone, your hand needs to be high enough from it when you come in from the bottom that it is within the sensor's field of view. Otherwise it won't work. It seems that 3-4 inches is the lower limit. Anything closer than that and it won't pick up your hand until it's closer to the top of the phone.
Alright. That explanation seems plausible enough. I had read somewhere that somebody else was saying their lower sensors weren't working and I started "testing" mine, so maybe I was expecting there to be an issue and ended up finding one that wasn't there. You are correct, if I ensure my hand is a minimum of 4-5 inches from the phone it seems to react just fine.
Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain it, I really appreciate it.
Huff009 said:
Alright. That explanation seems plausible enough. I had read somewhere that somebody else was saying their lower sensors weren't working and I started "testing" mine, so maybe I was expecting there to be an issue and ended up finding one that wasn't there. You are correct, if I ensure my hand is a minimum of 4-5 inches from the phone it seems to react just fine.
Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain it, I really appreciate it.
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No prob bud, happy to help!
I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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That's strange. I have the same setup except my car's BT is a trusted pair also.
No issues here.
Dusty Rhodes said:
That's strange. I have the same setup except my car's BT is a trusted pair also.
No issues here.
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Is the BT in ur car capable to read your text msg? My note 4 use do it perfect but nexus is not option is grayed out on my car screen.
My home and work are "trusted places" and it works about 50% of the time. At work it barely works...My Nexus 5 was the same way. It is probably a thing on Google's end that they need to update.
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I have Moto360 and it's supposed to keep the phone unlocked. Well, once in a while (at least once per day) it doesn't work so I decided to add a Trusted Location (my house). This made it worse because there seems to be some sort of "race condition" and I get a lot more issues at work now. Basically it seems like it's seeing that I'm not home and skips the check of Moto360 presence all-together. I also added an NFC tag (for my car in case I forget Moto360 at home). So having these 3 settings enabled at once makes this a worse experience than just with Moto360 (which isn't reliable to begin with)
Anyway, this unlocking mechanism is one big mess and hasn't been reliable for me. I understand that it's better to be safe than sorry but these are clear bugs.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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i'm not experiencing this at all. i've had it working with my N5 flawlessly (before i got my N6) as well. if your phone isn't showing that you're at home, your location services might be turned off though.
worst case is that you back up your settings and try a clean wipe/reflash and see if it's working as expected.
*EDIT* are you sure that you're not accidentally hitting the little lock/unlock icon at the bottom of the screen? that will lock it regardless of the trusted devices/location settings.
NICEGYPT said:
Is the BT in ur car capable to read your text msg? My note 4 use do it perfect but nexus is not option is grayed out on my car screen.
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Mine could work but I use hangouts as my messaging app and THAT doesn't work.
So that you know what I'm working with, I have a 2012 Mustang GT with MyFordTouch.
Dusty Rhodes said:
Mine could work but I use hangouts as my messaging app and THAT doesn't work.
So that you know what I'm working with, I have a 2012 Mustang GT with MyFordTouch.
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I have a 2014 Charger with Uconnect
Lucke said:
*EDIT* are you sure that you're not accidentally hitting the little lock/unlock icon at the bottom of the screen? that will lock it regardless of the trusted devices/location settings.
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Wow, that could be it! I didn't even realize this icon is there and I often unlock from the very bottom (old habits). I will pay attention from now on and hopefully this is exactly what it was.
Thank you!
T-R said:
Wow, that could be it! I didn't even realize this icon is there and I often unlock from the very bottom (old habits). I will pay attention from now on and hopefully this is exactly what it was.
Thank you!
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Haha I had the same problem til I realized this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrK1wQjh980
They are testing palm print and fingerprints detection by touch screen. Seems that touch resolution is enought to reconize one print from another
And this is the cool stuff: They use a nexus 5 to test... Very interesting
Are you sure it isn't a modified nexus 5?
no
i think that is modified nexus 5. i didnt saw it before
Well judging by what they describe, they are using any touchscreen as a scanner. I don't thing you need to modify anything internally, I think it's more software based.
Basically you just need to root your nexus, and have access to the digitizer directly in order to track patterns when you touch the screen.
Based on the patterns you get to track thanks to the digitizer, you can authenticate or reject an user. For me, it looks totally software based.
Remember that app you use to track how many points you can do on a touchscreen? If you press one it shows you the coordinates and so on and so forth until you reach 10. I think it's based on something like that, except it's probably much more advanced tracking since you can get patterns for fists/ears/fingers etc.
Judging by the looks of it though, I don't think it can read your "fingerprint". I don't think the resolution is enough. So, instead if reads your fist print since the resolution should be enough to calculate who's who. (I don't know if i`m making any sense right now lol).
Anyway, in short, looks okay, as long as you use fists/ears , whatever. Since Google introduced fingerprint auth, I don;t think they are going to allow fists and ears prints in their APIs so I don;t think you;re going to be able to use your fists for buying stuff from Google play, still , for a nerd like me the video is very satisfying.
its a project by Yahoo,... saw it last month i think,... for more info here
personally i think it wont be that secure and in cold climates it would be pretty hard to do that,...
chiragkrishna said:
its a project by Yahoo,... saw it last month i think,... for more info here
personally i think it wont be that secure and in cold climates it would be pretty hard to do that,...
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agreed, this is why i was thinking Google will never allow this in their APIs.
doesn't seem practical, making a fist gesture to unlock your phone or placing it to your ear to unlock or gripping the phone to unlock.
It'll be socially awkward and won't be accepted as much as fingerprint sensors, besides I don't think it'll be that secure anyway.
Fingerprint sensors are the way to go :good:
As more and more devices get these sensors, I think in the long run.. fingerprint sensors will be cheaper
Think about it, A replacement Touch ID sensor on eBay is like $5... it's just the software implementation on it.
I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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Gotta change that sig as its all wrong now, lol.
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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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Gotta change that sig as its all wrong now, lol.
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What are some of your cons for the device?
I've heard various things about it, such as there's some faint line down the side of the screen on most all models.
Some people claim that the speak on speaker call sucks.
etc etc. Anything you don't really like about the phone that could be most people's gripe about it?
Mine works great. Nothing to complain about...
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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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Gotta change that sig as its all wrong now, lol.
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First, fingerprint sensor. I need security but entering pin/code every time I wanted to unlock the phone was cumbersome.
Second, is availability at the time of purchase. It wasn't apparently available with carriers in Canada.
Third, popularity, and community development and support. Galaxy s6 has more users, and therefore, more developers working on its rom.
Fourth, availability of accessories due to Galaxy S6 owner population vs Active.
I can overlook all other points, but missing the fingerprint sensor was a deal breaker for me.
For me, the lack of a fingerprint scanner isn't a deal-breaker. I guess I'm 'old school' or something. Though I understand the convenience of it.
I'm on the edge of picking up this phone, but, kind of worried about what type of specs the S7 Active will have and will it be worth the wait.
Currently with the S6 Active, my concerns are:
No Root (not a deal breaker)
Slowness of AT&T updates (not a deal breaker if ODIN is reliable and we can get timely firmware updates outside of AT&T)
Length of time it's taking to get to Marshmellow
Quality of speaker and using the speaker phone (I've heard that it's not too hot)
Lack of accessories (agree with you on this, doesn't seem a lot out there)
What I don't like about S6 Active:
Placement of the audio jack port. Really should be on the bottom, like the S6
No expandable memory option
No removable battery option (Not really a deal breaker if the battery has no issues and will remain effective for at least 3-4 years.)
Not enough bands to support international carriers and carrier aggregation support to the fullest by having as many bands possible (Not really a deal breaker, as I'll get a few where I am).
Touch-Wiz. Rather to to some stock android OS rather than have all the crap on the phone. (relates to having a root)
But beyond all of the above, the phone looks really really nice and I'll likely pick it up anyways, for lack of anything better, IMO.
I was thinking Nexus 6P, but it's just too big for me.
Nexus 5X, just kinda of too weak for me. (has less bands than Nexus 6P, actually)
I was thinking just a regular S6, but like the Active design better.
Just bought one,for durability, came from the V10 and loving it so far.
Succumbed
Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
BlueCider said:
Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
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Add another dislike:
Samsung Touchwiz and how it handles, doesn't allow handling of LED definition.
Unfortunately, Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have blown up their Touchwiz and made it virtually impossible for applications like Lightflow, to define custom LED colors for applications.
The best that can happen is that some 'workaround' by the author of Lightflow can be used, but that just leaves the Badges and Notifications icons on the status bar for you to clear out manually, after reading your email or messages.
Price to pay to have any control over LED.....
Just one more reason I want root....
The fingerprint scanner on the Nokia 9 is terrible! Seems to only read it 20% of the time. I use face unlock sometimes which is nice but I can't always hold phone up to face. Tempted to just use smart lock with my android wear watch but there goes my security. May end up trying to add fingerprints again for a 3rd time...
Mine almost always works, but I have to apply some pressure to it. It's not like most other in-display readers that work with just resting your finger on the screen.
I have each thumb trained twice on it.
It fails completely with a glass screen protector (at least for me).
Worst scanner. Works 50 percent or less and with multiple scans of same fingerprint. Utterly useless.Ar least the Galaxy S10 plus was fixed with updates and my success rate is 90% + on that phone.
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It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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Do you know where that thumb has been since the last time you licked it??? :silly: :silly: :laugh: :laugh:
I received my phone yesterday. My fingerprint scanner seems to work just fine. There are a couple times where it did take a couple tries, but it's been nothing like I've been reading. I'm perfectly content with it. I'll also add that it's been working just as well for me with a plastic screen protector on it.
You guys never had a xiaomi mi 5s. If so, you would not complain about fingerprint scanner ?
I've had about a 75% success rate with the fingerprint scanner. I set it up in a dark room and registered both thumbs and index fingers. There are times when it won't read my fingerprint at all, which seems to be software related. Other times, it will say not recognized. In those cases, I've tried to place my hand over my phone as if I'm covering my PIN at the ATM, creating a bit of a shadow or darkness over the fingerprint area of the screen and then trying it, which seems to work a lot more often. Covering it with the other hand might be a fluke, but I am able to repeat the results again and again.
Edit: I deleted my post, because it was not repeatable. Whatever the software issue is, its too intermittent to isolate through physical means alone. Someone with programming knowledge though should be able to see what might be causing the problem and provide some insight on a workaround until then.
Right now for me, it seems to work when its being charged and battery saver seems to affect its success rate.
for me it depends on the situation, sometimes it doesn't work at all. Things like temp etc seems to be influencing the succes rate. my xz3 has a reader at the back and it doesn't work sometimes as well. they are equal in reliability. But if you are used to a Huawei (like the mate 9) it is terrible. I really had to adjust when I got the XZ3 (coming from a mate 9).
I received mine this morning and it performed a system update out of the box.
I put a glass screen protector on the phone straight away and I've had some success with using the fingerprint reader, although not so much that I would like to use it all the time.
These are my observations so far,
- The 'press harder' message is deceptive. I have never got it to work by pressing harder when it tells me to press harder in a spot where my thumb/finger already is. Instead if I use that as a cue to re-position my thumb/finger then I have much more success. When it works, I have never had to press hard at all.
- It doesn't like my thumb very much. It takes some time to find the right position with my thumb, where as my forefinger is fine.
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I've been persisting with it and have found the right amount of pressure to make it work more consistently. The message on the screen says press a little harder, and pressing it to the point where it flattens your skin out against the screen makes the chance of success better.
Moseman, i did everything you did, unfortunately its a software issue. You are right about the 'press harder' message, its not true. You don't need to press hard at all to get it to work, which i have been able to test successfully. The issue is not about pressure, its about placement. You must place your finger in the exact position that you placed it when you did the first half of the enrollment. Interestingly, i've noticed that apps that use the finger print reader as part of their login, seem to work much better. Such as ADP app or Bank apps.
You will notice that it probably works better while on charger, and works terrible with battery saver on. I tried many ways to find a workaround to get it to work consistently, but eventually it goes back to working 10% of the time. I believe they will create a fix here soon.
I've heard the face scanner login works much better. GL!
I got a good working scan by holding the phone in landscape mode while learning the scan. Might be coincidence , but i figured since the scanner is the shape of a flat rectangle it might cover more of my finger that way. (in normal use i just unlock in portrait mode, i just did the landscape thing to learn the fingerprint)
Interesting. I will try your method and see what i get. Will post an update later. Thanks Bk227865.
*Update: The method does appear to be working somewhat better. I will have to keep testing. Thanks.
*Update2: I don't know why im obsessed with getting this working. But BK you gave me an idea.
So after trying your method, i wondered if enrollment was the issue. Perhaps i wasn't doing it right, and maybe someone else did do it right, so let me know if you did the following.
I deleted all enrollments and tried again, this time with battery saver off (just to rule anything out related to that). I also made sure that my finger placement was exactly as described in the training photo. Originally and before, i had placed the edge of my fingerprints to the edge of the scanner, but actually it wants you to place the middle part on the scanner.
So when i re-enrolled using the exact finger placement the picture showed, it didn't work 100% of the time, but i do get somewhat better overall success with different finger placements.
Anyone willing to test this out?
Sliksta said:
Interesting. I will try your method and see what i get. Will post an update later. Thanks Bk227865.
*Update: The method does appear to be working somewhat better. I will have to keep testing. Thanks.
*Update2: I don't know why im obsessed with getting this working. But BK you gave me an idea.
So after trying your method, i wondered if enrollment was the issue. Perhaps i wasn't doing it right, and maybe someone else did do it right, so let me know if you did the following.
I deleted all enrollments and tried again, this time with battery saver off (just to rule anything out related to that). I also made sure that my finger placement was exactly as described in the training photo. Originally and before, i had placed the edge of my fingerprints to the edge of the scanner, but actually it wants you to place the middle part on the scanner.
So when i re-enrolled using the exact finger placement the picture showed, it didn't work 100% of the time, but i do get somewhat better overall success with different finger placements.
Anyone willing to test this out?
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I can vouch for this, great discovery, Sliksta! :good:
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After further experimenting, it seems like the results are only slightly better and this is not a permanent solution.
Wow. Really improved! Almost 8/10 now
The way I did it was placing my thumb in different angles from the beginning. Don't have a lot of troubles with it. Some times the light just doesn't switch on. Direct sunlight doesn't help its accuracy. Wet fingers doesn't help as well. But I would say mostly it works
Thanks all and Chaosdark for testing. I still believe that battery saver somehow effects the consistency of its accuracy. I would say it works more often than not with battery saver off. This might be the inconsistency you are experiencing. Can you/anyone confirm it works better w/ battery saver off?
Today I think I've found something interesting, if you go to verification option in the fingerprint section under security and touch the FP scanner to verify which fingerprint enrollment belongs to which finger, I have found that it detects and identifies the fingerprints enrolled easily and quickly and doesn't ask you to press harder as often as on lockscreen ( needs more testing from other users).
This results makes me hopeful that a software fix is possible and in the making according to Nokia CEO how vaguely suggested there will be a fix in an upcoming update.
What do you guys think?
stiebs said:
It's a painful fingerprint scanner, but I've found a way to make it reliable. Not necessarily convenient, but reliable..
Before scanning, I lick my thumb of index finger lightly, then run them together leaving them just slightly damp (just enough so they don't slide smoothly across the phone screen), then touch firmly, but certainly not hard, on the sensor patch.
Works almost first time every time. I also used this same method when training the prints.
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This works 100% without pressing harder
Incredible