I have a VZW moto X with locked bootloader , currently rooted using MotoRoot (jcase's first root option)
I know that motoroot and pwnmymoto will not work post-OTA upgrade.
I currently only use root for TiBu to backup a few things and disable the system stuff that i do not use.
My question is: Will the OTA (when it comes) kill all of those disables if i remove root?
Is there any way to keep motoroot or pwnmymoto through the OTA with OTA rootkeeper?
There's a thread here in q and a that is a tutorial on how to keep root and update.
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So I have the TMo X that I rooted using the RMM exploit. Worked perfectly, but it seems the exploit is permanent. I have used Moto Toolbox, RSD Lite to get back to stock and with both ways I em up still having system RW privilidges. Not that I am complaining but is that normal? I was even able to root the official kitkat after the OTA just by installing supersu.
Do you have a Dev edition?
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No the regular Tmo edition.
I am using jcase's method of rooting form 4.4 down to 4.2.2 and back to 4.4 with a stock VZW Moto X.
I am trying to get some clarification on finishing on the first set of processes.
I have followed all the instructions for the first part successfully. I have Root and have disabled WP.
I was about to take the next step and "restore to the 4.2.2 Camera update" but this confuses me.
1) Will I lose root and WP?
2) Is this necessary to proceed to a rooted 4.4?
From jcase:
"First you must use MotoWPNoMo, if you haven't then you will need to. Use RockMyMoto to gain root, then use MotoWPNoMo, and then restore to the 4.2.2 Camera update."
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You will lose root but not wp off. That's exactly what you want. No root but wp off since the root method for 4.4 is different. So yes you want to restore back to 4.2.2 after root and wp off.
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With all the talk about downgrading causing bricks, I wanted to make sure that I had the right steps for rooting my Sprint XT1056 which is currently running 4.4 (30.B2 Bootloader):
1. Flash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US (is this the "Camera Update" version?) using RSD Lite
2. Use RockMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo
3. Reflash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite
4. Use SlapMyMoto
5. Flash Android 4.4 Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite (can I do this, or do I need to wait for my phone to download an OTA?)
6. Finish SlapMyMoto
Once the Sprint 4.4.2 OTA arrives, would taking it brick my phone if I've done this root method?
ahecht said:
With all the talk about downgrading causing bricks, I wanted to make sure that I had the right steps for rooting my Sprint XT1056 which is currently running 4.4 (30.B2 Bootloader):
1. Flash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US (is this the "Camera Update" version?) using RSD Lite
2. Use RockMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo
3. Reflash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite
4. Use SlapMyMoto
5. Flash Android 4.4 Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite (can I do this, or do I need to wait for my phone to download an OTA?)
6. Finish SlapMyMoto
Once the Sprint 4.4.2 OTA arrives, would taking it brick my phone if I've done this root method?
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Forget slapmymoto or any root hack if you can unlock your boot loader. Slapmymoto has been untested AFAIK with the new 4.4.2 firmware. With any hack that involves bootloaders and system downgrades IMO will result in hard bricks , especially our moto x.
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ahecht said:
With all the talk about downgrading causing bricks, I wanted to make sure that I had the right steps for rooting my Sprint XT1056 which is currently running 4.4 (30.B2 Bootloader):
1. Flash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US (is this the "Camera Update" version?) using RSD Lite
2. Use RockMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo
3. Reflash Android 4.2.2 Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite
4. Use SlapMyMoto
5. Flash Android 4.4 Blur_Version.143.44.8.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US using RSD Lite (can I do this, or do I need to wait for my phone to download an OTA?)
6. Finish SlapMyMoto
Once the Sprint 4.4.2 OTA arrives, would taking it brick my phone if I've done this root method?
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well depending on your warranty standing you could just unlock your bootloader and install a customer recovery and SUPERSU it is alot eaiser.
ethier choice here is a link to my guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
if you decide to go the hard way here are some links for you
Blur_Version.139.14.1.ghost_sprint.Sprint.en.US(Sprint 4.2.2 Camera update)
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=18
i would recommend just using the OTA with upgrading from 4.2.2 to 4.4 when doing the SlapMyMoto root exploit
as for 4.4.2 when ever us Sprint user get it in order to take the OTA you will have to flash a complete stock 4.4 firmware and then take the OTA because if you dont your phone will get stuck in a bootloop.
as of right now the only way to root 4.4.2 is with a unlocked bootloader.
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Forget slapmymoto or any root hack if you can unlock your boot loader. Slapmymoto has been untested AFAIK with the new 4.4.2 firmware. With any hack that involves bootloaders and system downgrades IMO will result in hard bricks , especially our moto x.
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I'd prefer not to unlock and instavoid my warranty. I'm not going to send my phone back if I screw up the software, but I'd like the warranty to be there if my USB port or power button stops working.
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ahecht said:
I'd prefer not to unlock and instavoid my warranty. I'm not going to send my phone back if I screw up the software, but I'd like the warranty to be there if my USB port or power button stops working.
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I understand.
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I'm running 4.4 on first gen moto x. I am rooted with jcase method (back when it was script only..lol) I have a loss of battery life. I use to be able to run all day and come home with 40ish %.. I've ran a tad over 9 hours today and I'm at 18%. I have had touch screen issues off "center" for example.. If I'm googleing something and I click on first one pops up I may click on the 2nd or 3rd.. I'd I'm on Facebook and I click "like" it at click on the link.. I am thinking of fxzing my phone back to stock and erase it all. But my concern is 1. If it pulls update before I can stop it, is there a root out for it yet? 2nd, I have not had to root my 4.4 is there an easier way now?
Thanks for the help!!
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If you're on 4.4, why not use Sunshine to unlock your bootloader? That way, you don't have to worry about your first or second question.
To answer your questions:
1. It won't and even so, you have to choose to install the update.
2. TowelPieRoot.
I highly suggest you pony up the $25 to unlock your bootloader though.
I'm on Verizon..last I knew it was unlockable..
Edit: OK...nvm done a bit of research...this is awesome.. Only issue I'm having is I try to download sunshine and it basically says its corrupt.
Slapped my Moto
OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
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If you unlocked your bootloader you just flash twrp and it roots for you. Hopefully you didn't brick by flashing a lower firmware.
You can just use the Verizon fxz in the general section to update to 4.4.4 and then root with twrp. You are unlocked, no exploits or towel pie or slapping. Just root forever
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xpsychox said:
OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
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If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
KidJoe said:
If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
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Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
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Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?
xpsychox said:
Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
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Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?
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You used MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection. If you upgrade to 4.4.2, you'll likely keep root which was provided by SlapMyMoto, but the vulnerability being exploited by MotoWpNoMo was patched, so write protection will be re-enabled.
On 4.4.2 and up, the only way to disable write protection is unlocking the bootloader.
The Vulnerabilities used to gain root via SlapMyMoto on 4.4, and Pie, TowelPieRoot on 4.4.2 are patched in 4.4.4, and there is no root on 4.4.4 unless you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery to root.
That being said. If you have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4, you could try Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. Its $25, but it checks if your phone is compatible before it charges you. This thread discusses it -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471
And in case you missed the many posts/threads... Once on 4.4.2 or up, DO NOT DOWNGRADE or attempt to downgrade!!!! You will end up with a Brick!! (So this means if you have 4.4.4, you can't downgrade to 4.4.2 or 4.4 to try and use the older exploits/processes.)
that's actually what i did.. lol, thanks though.