Just saw Sprint added "Spark" coverage in Austin. http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-rel...up-to-60-mbps-now-available-in-11-markets.htm
Has anyone here connected to it?
I've enabled my Nexus 5 as described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061.
Haven't seen any difference at all. Anyone know how to tell if you are connected?
The coverage map looks pretty damn good in Austin for Spark. http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp?ECID=vanity:coverage
I've been waiting almost 4 years for Sprint 4G. First it was WiMax, then LTE and now SPARC. I'm still stuck in the dark ages with 200 kbs downloads. Maybe by the time I get something better, you guys will be on 6G or 7G technology......but I'm not bitter. :/
also in austin and have tried every combination of band/priority and no difference.
hopefully soon as sprint speeds here are simply a joke
erikivy said:
I've been waiting almost 4 years for Sprint 4G. First it was WiMax, then LTE and now SPARC. I'm still stuck in the dark ages with 200 kbs downloads. Maybe by the time I get something better, you guys will be on 6G or 7G technology......but I'm not bitter. :/
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+1 for this. I live in a metro area of about a quarter million people (not huge, but not tiny either), and we most likely won't have Sprint LTE until 2018 because our service is provided by an affiliate that owns the infrastructure and is in no hurry to spend any cash to update their backhaul. Spark would be awesome, but usable 3g would also be nice. My account has 5 lines with different contract expiration dates, so switching to another carrier would be way too expensive to even consider right now (unless T-Mobile had decent coverage here, but that's another discussion entirely).
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+1 for this. I live in a metro area of about a quarter million people (not huge, but not tiny either), and we most likely won't have Sprint LTE until 2018 because our service is provided by an affiliate that owns the infrastructure and is in no hurry to spend any cash to update their backhaul. Spark would be awesome, but usable 3g would also be nice. My account has 5 lines with different contract expiration dates, so switching to another carrier would be way too expensive to even consider right now (unless T-Mobile had decent coverage here, but that's another discussion entirely).
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Wow, same exact situation here. I live in a bustling college town with an area population of about 150,000. Sprint service is provided by a janky little network called nTelos and there is no way of knowing when they will ever step into this century. My little company only has 3 lines, but we face the same dilemma. I went so far as to grab a prepaid Tmobile SIM to experiment with, but it was 1X everywhere I tried. I didn't think it was possible to have worse service than Sprint, but TMobile (at least in this area) is pitiful compared to Sprint.
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Just an FYI the Nexus 5 needs an update to make use of spark. Even with all the bands enabled it will only connect to band 25.
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Just an FYI the Nexus 5 needs an update to make use of spark. Even with all the bands enabled it will only connect to band 25.
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I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
9878 said:
I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
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Google will release a n5 firmware update this quarter we have been told, you have no control over this.
In the past it seemed Sprint's objective was to be bought out by another carrier so they tried to expand in under served areas. Now there's rumors of Sprint's new owners wanting to buy out T-mobile.
I connected to band 41 on my nexus for about an hour once then I mucked with the settings and never got it back.
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In the past it seemed Sprint's objective was to be bought out by another carrier so they tried to expand in under served areas. Now there's rumors of Sprint's new owners wanting to buy out T-mobile.
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That will NEVER happen.
I'm in the Detroit metro with unofficial LTE. I got LTE on my gnex most everywhere. Different story on this device with the tri band. I can force LTE, but then I can't get texts or phone calls. I did however go a about fifteen miles north last week and LTE was working automatically. I am optimistic it should be working here soon also.
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Spark in Dallas
I'm in the Dallas area and have enabled all 3 bands for LTE but don't see anything other than band 25 on my N5. I've changed the priority and all that jazz but nothing changes.
Major disappointment as I got this phone for the tri-band service that was supposed to be so awesome.
I really hope the firmware update this quarter is a real thing and I hope they hurry up with it. Tired of the terrible reception and LTE speeds in and around Dallas. My wife has the S4 and she gets better LTE coverage and speeds than my N5.
I'm in Houston and we have spark here.
As for the N5 no go with all three bands enabled.
I did however get atxt from sprint that says "Over the next month the new network will be largely completed in your area making it better than ever! http://sprint.us/network1 Replay S to stop"
Hit that link and no real info.
Also we have found that the update for the N5 will enable the two extra bands and a new APN. Still trying to get the APN from the Flex since it will be rolling out with Spark enabled. I think that is all we will need but don't quote me on that.
The Nexus 5 and LG G2 are going to get their Spark Updates sometime in the future, hopefully soon.
If you really wanted to take advantage of Spark ASAP, you should have gotten a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Mini, Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, HTC One Max, or the new model of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 (Model number: SPH-L720T).
For the Nexus and LG G2, I read somewhere that LG was having problems with getting Triband LTE to work properly, but the G2 is supposedly getting their update by the end of this month. That should be a good sign that our Spark update is on the way as well, though the Nexus update needs to be pushed by Google.
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9878 said:
I spent over 45 minutes on the phone with Sprint today trying to find out what:crying: I need to do to get the update. They finally told me "No, it won't work on that phone." WTF!
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Lol... Just like every other single phone in the world out there... You can't get an update that doesn't exist yet.
metayoshi said:
The Nexus 5 and LG G2 are going to get their Spark Updates sometime in the future, hopefully soon.
If you really wanted to take advantage of Spark ASAP, you should have gotten a Samsung Galaxy S 4 Mini, Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3, HTC One Max, or the new model of the Samsung Galaxy S 4 (Model number: SPH-L720T).
For the Nexus and LG G2, I read somewhere that LG was having problems with getting Triband LTE to work properly, but the G2 is supposedly getting their update by the end of this month. That should be a good sign that our Spark update is on the way as well, though the Nexus update needs to be pushed by Google.
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Lol... Just like every other single phone in the world out there... You can't get an update that doesn't exist yet.
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And what do you know... The LG G2 Spark update is OTA ready right now!
LG G2 Updates
The Nexus 5 shouldn't be too far behind, but again, it's up to LG and Google.
metayoshi said:
And what do you know... The LG G2 Spark update is OTA ready right now!
LG G2 Updates
The Nexus 5 shouldn't be too far behind, but again, it's up to LG and Google.
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Yep just seen that! Now where is ours so the devs can get to work on that stupid icon!
Finally got some band 41. Kramer/metric area
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Band priority 41,25,26
a reboot always loses connection to band 41. Update prl always gets it back for me.....even though the prl version stays the same per the phone status
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so i recently tried out the lte apn setting on my n4 and boom!
the speeds arent THAT impressive, but considering that i was only getting on average 5-7 mb down,
this is a HUGE upgrade.
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so i recently tried out the lte apn setting on my n4 and boom!
the speeds arent THAT impressive, but considering that i was only getting on average 5-7 mb down,
this is a HUGE upgrade.
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Hate to break this for ya, but your speedtests are HSPA+.
That's not lte its HSPA+ your upload speed isn't high.
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I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused
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I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused
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Neither can I. The LTE network isn't commercially live and T-Mo simply doesn't want us on it. I have no other explanation. They've had the security system implemented for a while, and if your device isn't provisioned for internal testing, you shouldn't be on. There is too much information we can gather from it, the amount of bandwidth used, frequency, and what they care mostly is the speeds. The speeds are their selling point, money makers, and what we're seeing when we connect is nowhere near what T-Mobile would like to have talked about.
To prove my point, remember the GigaOm, TmoNews story that popped up about 10 days ago covering my speedtests from Astoria, NYC, with speeds up to about 18mbps?
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/t-mobiles-lte-network-spotted-hiding-in-the-urban-jungles-of-nyc/
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobile-2/
Well, the next day T-Mobile called in a Press Briefing with CNET, LaptopMag, Verge and Engadget writers and setup an internal 2x10Mhz LTE cell site in NYC to showcase their speeds that were 62mbps.. http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57574614-85/t-mobile-equips-galaxy-note-2-with-fast-4g-lte-powers/ They've embargoed the story until monday morning at 9AM when all four blitzed the media. Bravo! :good:
Bottom line, they extremely care about their image which has been hurting, as their CEO has been announcing the best network since sliced bread. My speed tests weren't very hot and they had to prove their point.
3oudreaux said:
I managed to get a couple speedtests in before the network disappeared. These were taken near Pearland, which is just south of Houston, Tx with a N4.
@Milan I've been lurking in the threads over at howards, you seem to be well versed in this subject. Perhaps you know why i cant seem to stay connected for more than a few minutes.??:confused
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I've seen the lte network visable on my nexus 4 for close to 2 weeks now. Yet to allow me on but once or twice for all of a few seconds before kicking me off.
Yea that gots to be Hspa+ speeds thats too low for Lte
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Neither can I. The LTE network isn't commercially live and T-Mo simply doesn't want us on it. I have no other explanation. They've had the security system implemented for a while, and if your device isn't provisioned for internal testing, you shouldn't be on. There is too much information we can gather from it, the amount of bandwidth used, frequency, and what they care mostly is the speeds. The speeds are their selling point, money makers, and what we're seeing when we connect is nowhere near what T-Mobile would like to have talked about.
To prove my point, remember the GigaOm, TmoNews story that popped up about 10 days ago covering my speedtests from Astoria, NYC, with speeds up to about 18mbps?
http://gigaom.com/2013/03/15/t-mobiles-lte-network-spotted-hiding-in-the-urban-jungles-of-nyc/
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/t-mobile-2/
Well, the next day T-Mobile called in a Press Briefing with CNET, LaptopMag, Verge and Engadget writers and setup an internal 2x10Mhz LTE cell site in NYC to showcase their speeds that were 62mbps.. http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-57574614-85/t-mobile-equips-galaxy-note-2-with-fast-4g-lte-powers/ They've embargoed the story until monday morning at 9AM when all four blitzed the media. Bravo! :good:
Bottom line, they extremely care about their image which has been hurting, as their CEO has been announcing the best network since sliced bread. My speed tests weren't very hot and they had to prove their point.
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If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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Hmmmm... Where are you at? Im in Racine and get pretty consistent hspa, same in Kenosha where I work. Only time I drop to edge is when I go into stores and such.
Where in Houston are you guys getting LTE and how? I live in Clear Lake/League City and can't seem to connect. Help please?
kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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Wait, you're the one that said that lte.tmobile.com APN works and you're getting 7Mbps Up/Down. Were you joking?
i've noticed that some people have H+ what does it mean? mine always says H and average speed is around 12mbps which i find pretty fast for my needs although i wish i had better ping :laugh::laugh::laugh:
and btw i mostly spend my worthless life in Manhattan
probably on a stock rom possibly?
kthejoker20 said:
If that's the case they better get working on southeast Wisconsin. T-Mobile is horrible here constant switching to edge.
Another month of this and I'm going back to sprint.
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I have friends up in Grafton, WI i visit and I've noticed they expanded the 4g a LOT but now it appears grafton is just one big 2g dead zone. (Literally! on https://maps.eng.t-mobile.com/pcc-retail-default.php ) Just odd that they would take away a LOT of 2g coverage that's always been there!
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i've noticed that some people have H+ what does it mean?
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HSPA+ implemented on TMOUS as HSPA-42mbit. People call it HSPA-DC(Dual Channel)as well. Normally means faster speeds although the best I've seen on H+ is 14mbit.
This is in San Francisco I did have my LTE on but as you can see it's not getting LTE it's on hspa your 1900mhz band has probably been upgraded that's all, if you get LTE you should be seeing higher speeds
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This is in San Francisco I did have my LTE on but as you can see it's not getting LTE it's on hspa your 1900mhz band has probably been upgraded that's all, if you get LTE you should be seeing higher speeds
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SJ is going to be a launch market in three days so it makes sense SF has it too.
From what I've been reading over on HowardForums, yeah when they install the 1900mhz HSPA gear it's probably LTE ready as well. From what my 3GS is showing me, I have 1900mhz HSPA here in LA but I doubt it's getting LTE for a long time...I remember it took almost a year until I got H+.
I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
I think you did.
Why does it matter?
Enjoy the endless options of optimization that the n4 offers you!
To me, yes. For me it's nexus > everything else.
If you wanna take back the soft key part, flash PA and use PIE.
I sold the nexus 4 last night and I bought myself a HTC one.. .... Jk yeah right I fell in love with this phone after unlocking/rooting/flashed my first ROM last night and there are endless ROMs I don't know what to do. Its like a buffet
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I had pie on my lgog using vanilla aokp root box rom and I kept thinking what was pie for since it was utterly useless feature for the lgog. Now it make sense that its meant for the nexus 4.
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I'm new to the Nexus 4. I'm coming from the ATT LG Optimus G which I know is pretty much the same phone. But just wasn't for me. I couldn't get LTE at all with that phone no matter what I did. Apn's, build.prop, radio's, hidden menus, nothing gave me LTE. Development was a little lacky since only a few roms are active. A friend of mine told me to just get a Nexus 4, root it, unlock the bootloader, flash a good rom, flash a .33 radio, change the icon on the to get the 4G LTE and you will get LTE since it has AWS. I had an horrible experience converting the LGOG to Nexus 4. I had so much freaking bugs here and there and lost 50 percent performance of the phone. It was a nightmare.
One downside I did notice about the Nexus 4 that both LGOG and Nexus 4 share the same sizescreen,but the Nexus 4 has on screen soft keys and LGOG has dedicated soft buttons which makes the LGOG a plus one on the screen side since it has more room and the screen looks bigger for some apparent reason.
So what do you think guys? Did I make the right choice? I think I did
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I don't believe the nexus 4 has a lte chip in it anyways. So even if T-Mobile had lte don't think it picks it up due to the fact the phone has to have a lte chip to connect. I'm pretty sure Google didn't put one in ....unless its there jus not activated. But I don't think so.
Lockrings//Softkeys//GlowDots...and much more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40240608
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tmobile lte on my nexus 4 in queens, ny. the n4 does have a lte chip, but its not officially there since the lte chip was never approved by the fcc. so google disabled lte in the latest radio. but, with an older radio, you can use lte.
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Be sure to reflash the entire stock ROM via fast boot alone (then flash whatever ROM you want). I got an extra 1.5 hours screen on time doing that. No idea why...just a suggestion if you're struggling to get 3 hours screen on time daily (like I was). I now average 4 hours screen on time daily.
I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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If you can wait....definitely wait it out. Operative word being....if.
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does tmobile have lte up in your area? if it doesnt, there nothing you can do thatll give you lte.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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In terms of LTE support on ATT, you might you might not get it depending on the coverage area band/s ATT LTE runs in your area. N4 only has AWS 4 band LTE, so if ATT doesn't have that in your area, you can switch to Tmo which does support AWS 4. Check out the ALL LTE & Tmo threads to find out more.
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I've been on that thread. I was directed to that thread on the ATT LGOG section. We have LTE in Phoenix,AZ. I should have stated that the phone was unlocked for any sim and me being a T-Mobile customer and all.
Either way for now T-Mobile is kicking ATT's butt in LTE coverage and speeds,but I also heard that ATT are investing over a billion not millions,but billions of dollars into towers and boosting up their LTE speeds.
Not that LTE really matters,but just a nice feature to have and LGOG was not supporting T-Mobile LTE's bands.
Here is a screenshot of my LTE on my Nexus. " Note that the 4G is really LTE on the Nexus 4" I changed the icon and used the LTE settings from the market. Shows that I have LTE on the network type.
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I'm with T-Mobile,but Ive been always a fan on AT&T Phones since they always have better mid level phones than T-Mobile. I use to have the ATT Motorola Atrix HD unlocked. I slap my sim card on that and didn't even have to change any APN settings. Immediately picked up LTE. And to answer your question. Yes we have LTE in Phoenix, AZ.
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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I keep going back and forth whether to buy it or not. I have an HTC amaze with cm 10.1 on it. It reboots itself sometimes. But it has a micro SD which doesn't have anything on it. All my apps videos and pictures saved to internal with about 2 GB left I think.
Nexus 4 has lte. Not sure if I get it or just wait out the amaze which battery dies in 5 hours and wait for nexus 5. Or get the nexus 4 and sell the amaze now
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Sell the Amaze and get the Nexus 4 and call it a day. Nexus 4 are cheap if you score one on Craigslist. I bought mine for 250 dollars semi new 16gb unlocked already from Craigslist. Seller bought it from Google Play store and she didn't like it. She was a apple fan girl. Only sad part that is I had to drive 20 miles to pick it up. WORTH IT!
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on the nexus 4 you have to change the apn. it doesnt come with default lte apn settings.
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Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
Z33type said:
Whatever APN settings I put on my LGOG was backed up by google and transfered to my Nexus when I logged on to my google account.
fast.t-mobile.com and all other proxy, ipv's mmsc. has been transfered over.
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oh cool. then you need either the .33 radio or .27. also, theres a build.prop edit you need and an edit for sound during calls(ill link a flashable), and you need to change the phone/radio to lte/gsm.
flash this, it should take care of the build.peop edit and in call sound https://www.box.com/s/h16b3wlrq8op6us7ifsv
Beat you to it already with the .33 radio as you can see on the previous posts that I posted a screenshot of my lte. But the in call sound I shall do but so far I am not experiencing any bugs with the in calls on the .33 radio.
.27 radio doesn't lock so well on the GPS as the .33 does. Wish the .48 had lte and also wish that developers can play with radios but its illegal to even hack radios to begin with.
Now my next issue is. I remember seeing a site or thread somewhere on how to make lte stick even on after booting. I keep having keep changing the prefer network as it sticks to wcdma every boot.
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Reading your first post, I thought u were gonna somehow flash Optimus G firmware onto the Nexus 4 to get LTE under ATT.
I'm glad you got it working under T-Mobile LTE.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-lg-g2-ota-enables-spark-status-bar-icon
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http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-lg-g2-ota-enables-spark-status-bar-icon
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we can enable it on are own rite? thought i seen a thread on how to enable it
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we can enable it on are own rite? thought i seen a thread on how to enable it
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Yeah, I know and I have them enabled and I am in NYC which is Spark enabled but I don't get no stinking Spark on my N5... I have read many other people in Spark enabled areas standing next to a Spark tower that cannot connect to the other two bands even though they have enabled all the bands on their N5. I think there is an APN setting or something that we must get via some type of update for us to take advantage of the Spark towers.
Here ya go Raistlin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061
I just have to get my MSL number from Sprint and I am good to go for NYC Spark.
CDKJudoka said:
Here ya go Raistlin.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530061
I just have to get my MSL number from Sprint and I am good to go for NYC Spark.
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I have had those bands enabled since I got the N5 by using that thread, but I still don't get Spark. I am pretty sure that we are going to need an actual update in order to connect to the Spark towers even though we have enabled all the bands on our N5s.
It varies. Even if you have the bands enabled, it doesn't guarantee that you'll connect to Spark. I was lucky to connect to Spark and got around 60 - 70 Mbps.
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UndeadNexus said:
It varies. Even if you have the bands enabled, it doesn't guarantee that you'll connect to Spark. I was lucky to connect to Spark and got around 60 - 70 Mbps.
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Yeah I have read very mixed results with this, some people swear they have connected and then some people say they are standing next to a Spark tower with all bands enabled but their N5 does not connect to Spark.
I just know that I have all my bands enabled and in various placed throught NYC I never connect to those bands. I am just hoping that there really is some update that will solve this for people who cannot connect.
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
I've been working in the sticks and been getting 3g and today it all LTE . my buddy's HTC one is still on 3g
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reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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I agree that we need an update, that is why I posted this thread about Sprint pushing the Spark update to the G2. I pray that you are correct and that we will see an update for Spark soon, since I work in NYC I would benefit from this.
Will Sprint push an update for Nexus I was under the impression that only updates through Google will fall through. I mean isn't this the reason why us T-Mobile users are sh out of luck when it comes to WiFi calling?
This is speculation and not fact. Would love for Sprint users to benefit especially since their 3G sucks
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PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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md1008 said:
Will Sprint push an update for Nexus I was under the impression that only updates through Google will fall through. I mean isn't this the reason why us T-Mobile users are sh out of luck when it comes to WiFi calling?
This is speculation and not fact. Would love for Sprint users to benefit especially since their 3G sucks
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PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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Spark is simply a term Sprint drummed up for their Tri-Band LTE. Currently LTE is only on one band so when they are all enabled you are supposed to get LTE speeds upwards of 50Mbps or more.
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[/COLOR]PS what is spark exactly is it like LTE just better? Is it exclusive to only Sprint or would other carriers likely be adapting to superior data?
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Spark is Band 41 TDD-LTE which Sprint has been deploying for the better part of the last year over the existing Clearwire Wimax network. Band 41 TDD-LTE uses 20mhz TDD carriers in a 3:2 configuration which is slightly superior to a 10x10 FDD-LTE configuration on the downlink side and slightly weaker on the uplink. Theoretical max is ~90/25 but Sprint advertises 50-60 and provisions their sites for that speed.
Current Sprint LTE is on FDD-LTE 1900 PCS G block using a 5x5mhz configurations with theoretical max of 37.5/12 DL-UL. The other is FDD-LTE on eSMR 800 mhz which is either 3x3 mhz in areas with spectrum squatters or public safety rebanding or 5x5 mhz in areas with no spectrum squatters and public safety cleared.
LTE 800 gives the coverage aspect while Band 41 TDD-LTE is "Spark".
LTE 800/1900 =/= Spark
TDD-LTE 2500 = Spark
I got some Band 41 on my Nexus 5 today in downtown Fort Worth
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4...o-demo-its-25ghz-network-technology/?p=274671
afazel said:
I got some Band 41 on my Nexus 5 today in downtown Fort Worth
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/4...o-demo-its-25ghz-network-technology/?p=274671
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Wow!! That is almost as good as my home FiOS service. I can't wait for it to work where I am in Manhattan.
reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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How does one know there in a "spark area"?
edit: i see Sprint updated their maps...my job also says im in a TURBO Spark area (LOL) but im still connecting to band 25 (im currently set to prioritize on 41)... Will test this further...
CDKJudoka said:
Wow!! That is almost as good as my home FiOS service. I can't wait for it to work where I am in Manhattan.
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I am in Midtown and unfortunately my office is in an LTE deadzone, but if I go outside and over half a block in either direction I can get decent speeds around 10Mbps. LTE is not consistent in Midtown, but to be fair no other companies LTE is consistent in Midtown either.
Raistlin1 said:
I am in Midtown and unfortunately my office is in an LTE deadzone, but if I go outside and over half a block in either direction I can get decent speeds around 10Mbps. LTE is not consistent in Midtown, but to be fair no other companies LTE is consistent in Midtown either.
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Yep, I am on 42nd and Lex and i get about 4mbps down in my office. Right outside I get about 10. Spark would be nice though.
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Yep, I am on 42nd and Lex and i get about 4mbps down in my office. Right outside I get about 10. Spark would be nice though.
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52nd and Lex for me and my LTE doesn't really work at my desk. It shows I am connect to LTE but when I run a speedtest or try and load say FB, it says no connection. I have to switch it over to 3G and then my data starts workiing again, its kinda annoying actually.
reddragon72 said:
Spark will not work on the N5 by simply enabling those bands. I have mine enabled and no spark and my desk sets next to a window dead in a perfect Spark area.
I researched more and found that there are new APN's and a new radio and updated APK that allows the phone to use the multiple bands for data.
We are about a week or so away from getting the update. LG finally sorted out their issues with Spark and dumped it on the G2. Right now google has it and they are working it into the rom and testing. I've been told one to two weeks if any issues occur with testing.
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awesome. been waiting for the update to hit my nexus 5. i live in houston and hoping to have better lte coverage. looks like we're close to the 2 week period. maybe we'll get the update at the end of this week?
I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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Funny - never noticed this before either, but AT&T reports mine as the 821 also.
I have the 820 model.
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I thought this was kind of interesting...
I bought my Nexus 5 from Tmobile (north america), found out that I have very little (read: zero) coverage between my home and work, so I had to cancel. I went ahead and paid off the N5 and switched to AT&T.
Oddly enough, the myAT&T screen shows me as having a LG 821, which, I believe, is the international version!
I found that concerning as I thought Tmobile might have worked better for me if I had the correct phone... but my bootloader shows D820.
Anyone else have the same quark on their myAT&T page?
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My wife and I both have Nexus 5's on at&t. I bought her's from google and mine from tmobile. Ours both show 821 too, but they are 820's. If they were 821's, you would have no LTE. Im in atlanta with lte everywhere.
LG 821 too, bought it from the Google store. I can use the wap.cingular apn only. No LTE for me.
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!
You only get throttled (or more accurately, your usage is only metered in the throttling system) when using PHONE or PTA apn. Using a galaxy nexus without lte, you're most likely on wap.cingular (which you can do on a phone with no lte). Once their system detects you're imei and determines you have an lte capable device, you're blocked from using wap.cingular, and this your usage will be monitored (as you'll need to use phone or pta). I can trick the system by putting my sim in my old non lte GS2 (i9100), doing "restore apns" then sim swapping back to my nexus 5. THEN I can use wap.cingular, but unfortunately after a day or two they do an imei sweep and I get locked out again On the bright side tmo just announced they'll be eliminating edge and upgrading everything to lte by 2015 so I'm looking forward to dumping ATT very soon.
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schwin97 said:
Do any of you get throttled on AT&T with the Nexus 5? I have the Galaxy Nexus, but a cracked screen and now water damage is making me purchase a new phone, and I have yet to be throttled while regularly using over 5G/month.
Thanks!
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No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.
Not sure if the International has a different structure for the ESN/IMEI but its quite possible the 821 is what they have in their system as the Nexus 5. They do have traveling customers on the device but more likely prepaid customers. Interesting one indeed.
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No throttle. On 6gb family share plan now. I can get over 50mbit/s in SpeedTest with full LTE signal. 95% of the time I'm on WiFi so to boot LTE speeds don't really matter. My data usage last month was a whole 500mb.
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He's asking about the UNLIMITED plan being throttled I'm sure, and yes it will after 5gb, unless you're on the wap.cingular apn as I described above.
I should mention that the Nexus 4 will NOT be blocked from wap.cingular as it does not have LTE, so if true unlimited data is that important maybe the Nexus 4 might be a better choice.
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ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.
mistahseller said:
ATT sent me a message saying I would be throttled at 3GB even though I have "unlimited data", and being throttled sucks, its awful.
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Should be 5gb on an LTE device. I'd call in with your imei to get put on an LTE unlimited plan if you're not already (hspa plans throttle after 3gb.). Note that you don't need to be on LTE or even have an LTE device, you just need any att compatible imei to give them so you're on the right plan.
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I got mine from Google, it's the unlocked version, and AT&T is also saying it's an LG 821.
How Do I Check The Model Number?
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.
I tried to use the phone on PTA or Phone APN but it only accepts wap.cingular, because I switched from a 3G phone. The CS rep said my plan is not compatible with LTE, and nothing can be done. I am stuck with HSPA. Oh well, the plus side, I am not throttled.
WoodburyMan said:
LG821 here as well. I have LTE using attphone APN. I had a Galaxy S4 (LTE) before it, just kept that plan so it all works. Have to have had a LTE capable phone before you get the N5 for it to work properly with your plan to access LTE>
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This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.
KedarWolf said:
Hi,
Bought my phone from Google Play. How do I check the model number other then the boot loader?
I checked in 'About Phone', can't find it.
Edit. XDA really has to stop ads from playing with audio with while on the site, drives me nuts.
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Did you try looking at the box?
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Jerryatric said:
This is not true. My wife has a T-Mobile N5 and I have a play store N5. Just started ATT service yesterday and we both have LTE. Also both devices show up as LG 821.
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This is true in some cases. It depends on the person that sets your phone up. Search. When they provision the phone, some AT&T workers, since the Nexus 5 is officially not in their provisioning software, have to select a generic template. If they are smart and do the right thing, you get set up with a LTE capable provisioning for your phone that works perfect. Some however don't know what they are doing and set the phone up with a plan that cannot access 3G for whatever reason. It completely depends on the person provisioning your phone. With phones that are in AT&T's system that might be unlocked but are in their system, such as Galaxy S4 Google Edition or something, it works no problem since the S4 is in their system. However with "oddball" phones like ours that AT&T doesn't officially support you run into issues as some workers may not know how to handle them.
Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
ElementalWindX said:
Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
cwhiatt said:
I have been on tmobile for years. The Samsung galaxy series has been easy to root and mod. If you live in a rural are the coverage can be spotty. They do have tbe wifi calling though as well so that is an added plus. Speeds work fine for me normal use.
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Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
ElementalWindX said:
Any chance you could run a speedtest.net app and tell me the results? I know it wont be the same in all areas but it's nice to see what they are capable of.
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I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
I switched to T-Mobile last year I used to have Verizon and the speed and service was great but they didn't offer unlimited data and that is what I wanted so I switched but in my area they need more antennas because it gets to congested at times to the point that data isn't working and my average speed is 15 mb
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cwhiatt said:
I can give it a go tomorrow when I am out and about.
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile myself, and am totally glad I did.
Pros:
- cheaper
- offers an unlimited data plan, free international 3G data and texting (invaluable service when you travel; I've taken advantage of this too many times), many music/video streaming services don't count against your data bucket (if you don't have unlimited)
- no contracts
- the Jump/upgrade program is pretty good if you switch phones regularly
- phones can be unlocked at anytime, as long as you have paid off your phone
Cons
- I travel quite a bit, and have found that their coverage isn't consistent in rural areas (urban cities are mostly fine though)
- S6 still hasn't received the Marshmallow update (though with Verizon updates took just as long), so software updates are slow
- speeds are not as fast as Verizon, I usually average 10% slower than when I was on Verizon (personally it doesn't feel significantly slower to be annoying)
Switched couple months ago and couldn't be happier. For what I was paying verizon for a locked phone for myself I get two unlocked phones for myself and the little lady with tmobile. with binge on and free streaming music I barely have any other data use 2.1gig last month. my average for the music alone is 8gig and that doesn't count anymore . And i get better signal at home ! Verizon unusable in my house tmobile is better plus can use wifi calling so now thinking can finally drop landline.
Switch as quickly as you can and don't look back
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No service at the house? haha. That's not looking good for T-Mobile
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I live in a brick and stucko house. No one gets great service in the house regardless of provider.
T-Mobile's service is much better with a band 12 phone, like the S6. I was amazed by the significant reception improvement over my S4 (non-band 12). Even T-Mobile's old band 4 LTE signal is much better on the S6. I work in the center of an office building (1950's building with brick, stucko, and asbestos ) and I get amazing LTE reception with my S6, whereas my S4 got no reception.
Stick with Verizon if you travel a lot or are in rural areas. I live near Los Angeles, so reception is not a problem.
ElementalWindX said:
Can you guys tell me the pros of moving to t-mobile vs sticking with verizon? My main motivation is the fact that Verizon keeps selling locked bootloader phones so I can't ever mod them. Seriously frustrating. Is it true that all of t-mobiles phones are unlockable or already come unlocked? Also what are the average LTE speeds you guys see when doing speed tests on the tmobile network?
Thanks.
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T-Mobile's connection and speeds aren't always reliable. I think Verizon is way better and you should stick with them if you had the money because I know I would. I'm going to go stock anyways because I want MM (no roms for that on S6 T-mo yet) and Samsung pay. Plus, some roms have apps that work a little differently (not a deal breaker, but annoying for me) and I cannot pickup calls sometimes (deal breaker, very frustrating).
I absolutely love tmobile. I like what the company is doing and most importantly there customer service. At one point a better service plan came out that was cheaper but still all of the same features... and they had zero issues switching it over. What company does that? Most will say its only avaliable to new customers.. not tmobile. Yes service can be limited in some area but they are still in the middle of switching off old 2g and replacing it with LTE. Major improvements in the past 6months. That all said no other carrier can match tmobile speeds at my home or work.
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If you travel a ton... stick with Verizon or wait another year.
I should add the new s7 has locked bootloader on tmobile so mods are limited... Aka no root yet.
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