http://tomhorsley.com/rants/doze-mode.html
I'm definitely reverting back to 5.1.1 when I get the time and energy to fool with it .
sounds like that was written by someone who hasn't even tried marshmallow yet. I have yet to experience any missed notifications, alarms or any issues relating to time in any way. If some apps are being affected by this then its a sign to the developer to fix their ****ty code because all of my apps relating to time at all have been working just fine and alot of them are still the same version they were on lollipop. Doze has improved my batter significantly. It sounds like this article was probably written by a developer who cant code properly and instead of improving his skills he'd rather complain and convince everyone to stay away from updates because he is unwilling to evolve. Even the article looks like it was written in paint...
I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.
That author seems to think that Marshmallow's Doze is a horrible thing that breaks all apps that rely on background services, namely alarms and notifications, and couldn't possibly be fixed in 10 years (rather than a few months) due to Google's horrible mistake (rather than devs not fixing their code).
Frankly, it sounds like a bunch of hyperbole.
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He's wrong about how doze works. And if he's in the camp that doesn't understand it nor wants to rewrite his app. Then yeh he's the idiot group that Google is targeting and was writing garbage code anyway.
lol complete nonsense, my alarm has worked everyday since i flashed M, even on dev previews...the only issues i have with M are really the "slow to connect wifi when using toggles" and the weird wifi consumption on battery stats
Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.
Kustaa said:
I had indeed a wrong time bug some days ago...really strange and worrying, a reboot fixed it. First time ever since Android Froyo that I experienced something like that.
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This actually happened with me a couple of days back, I was travelling, so I put my phone connected to a power bank and went for a nap, woke up to see phone switched off, switching it on throws me a 2nd September date set on my device. Had to manually set the date as no network was available to automatically set the date from servers.
Ubichinon said:
Another annoying issue on M is that if your leave your phone longer in standby mode (display off), wifi turns off and you stop recieving notifications until you turn your phone on again. This is with wifi set to "never turn off", etc.
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This I had been noticing these days just because of WhatsApp Web. When in standby, WhatsApp Web shows phone not connected error. Just waking the phone reconnects to the WiFi, but happens every 30-40mins.
I have a feeling that folks who never see these problems have their phones charging at night and doze mode doesn't happen when you are charging. I have no convenient way to charge my phone near my bed, so it is not charging and totally idle all night. Email and messaging completely stops. Only the stock alarm clock works. My medication reminder stops working. It might as well be turned off completely. Plus when you do wake up and turn on the phone, all the pent up alerts come through and scare the hell out of you. I hate doze mode.
Settings -> Battery -> ... (menu)-> Battery Optimization --> All apps --> Select whatsapp, etc... and select not optimized.
Test again.
You're welcome.
I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.
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I already disabled optimization in the battery settings for all the apps that weren't working. They still don't work after sitting overnight. It looks as if that setting has absolutely no effect.
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This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.
Dennis de Swart said:
This is a real problem. I tested this on a Nexus 5. The device seems to enter Doze after about 1 hour and this is what happens.
What does work in Doze mode:
- Telephone: call can be heard.
- Alarm: alarm can be heard
What does NOT work in Doze mode:
- Receiving mail notifications directly: it seems to wait for the maintenance window. There is no "ping" from my GMail. No lock screen notification until I picked it up. I turned off battery optimalization as suggested. Like Claghorn says, it doesn't make a difference. When I was sleeping, the time difference between sending the mail and getting a notification can be hours. That is not acceptable: I want to determine whether or not I get a message. I got no control over Doze, except plugging it in. Also, when it sits on the desk at work I need to pick it up or turn the screen on every so often, because I don't know if it "dozed" off again.
Works partially:
- Notification light: It works once mail passes through the maintenance window. It does NOT work before the maintenance window.
I tested all of this with a unrooted, updated Nexus 5. Topic Starter and Claghorn have good points. Why can't I turn this off? I don't want this. I want notification on time, with ping, right now. If I don't I will turn the volume off or set priorities. They could have told me this behavior in a mail or during the update. Important mail from work, family comes in hours late. Not happy with this at all.
Tried all sorts of things, nothing seems to help. And no, battery optimalization is either not enough or has nothing to do with it. I love the Nexus 5. Marshmallow seems to be much smoother than Lollipop. I was happy with the update until I discovered this. Now, I am fustrated. I expect the phone to inform me when I need to be informed. Most days I don't need to save 10% of power anyway. For the first time I want to either root the phone and go back to Lollipop or even Kitkat. I don't know what else can be done. Fustrated.
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A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
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Achilles. said:
A quick suggestion -
You may use Doze Mode Editor and edit the script so that your phone never enters Doze mode.
That way you can enjoy Marshmallow without Doze.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Thanks, I will look into that. I'd like to keep Mashmallow as a whole if possible. I think it is a good update in general.
OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?
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OK, I've looked at the doze mode editor thread and I find that the descriptions of the parameters I can set to be totally confusing, however, the flowchart pointed at in that thread seems to indicate that if I set the "inactive_to" value to something like 24 hours, then all the other doze mode nonsense is unlikely to ever happen (because I'll probably turn on my phone at least once every 24 hours). Does that seem like the best way to essentially turn off doze mode?
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I will look into this over the weekend. I find it odd that there isn't simply a switch to turn Doze off, which is a pity. It seems to me it's part of saving energy in general. A switch under Battery would do nicely. It should not be this complicated. That said, I think the UI of Marshmallow is silky smooth, much better than Lollipop. Marshmallow in general in good. It' just this that annoys me.
i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.
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i'm baffled by google's aversion to end user config. This kind of b.s. is how I found xda and drove me to become a chronic flashaholic. All or nothin I guess.
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I get the feeling Google assumes the customer is a developer. A few examples:
- The Nexus 5 does have a notification light: I didn't know until I read 5 reviews and even then I couldn't find any documentation on it. Needed an external app to get it working.
- Battery indicator: I like to have small numbers indicating battery charge: it could be done by hacking KitKat and Lollipop I think. Then at Marshmallow finally there's a (hidden) switch.
- I don't recall having any user guide in the Nexus 5 package. Not that I needed one. But some landing page doing a walkthrough would have been nice. Although there are some walkthroughs in every app
Not fatal flaws, but you wonder why does it need to be that difficult. It scares people away. Not me. I handed the Nexus 5 to some friends on numerous occasions and most found it too "empty". As for me, I want all developer stuff on. So it suprised me, there is no Doze fine tuning. Again, overall I give the Nexus a 8 or 9 out of 10. It fits me. In general I like it. So it's just constructive criticism. The empty layout and raw speed of the Nexus 5 works good in development of apps afterall.
Last night I ran an adb command (generated by the doze mode editor app) to set inactive_to to 24 hours (86400000 milliseconds). I then set an alarm for the next morning in the "Alarm Clock Plus" app (which completely ceased to function after Marshmallow showed up). This morning, the alarm actually went off on time, but the big "Dismiss" button it draws on the screen was totally non-functional. I had to hit the power button to get control (which then caused a popup saying alarm clock plus was non-responsive). I have no idea what caused all that behavior, but at least the alarm actually went off.
Also, with doze mode essentially disabled (in theory anyway), the power dropped from 100% in the evening all the way down to 97% in the morning.
With the exception to facebook and game type apps, Google's apps are the only ones I find that excessively waste resourxes and need to be forced to sleep. If they would get off the constant location polling, media scanning, and logging or at least tone it down a bit some they wouldnt need to implement thier half baked versions of solutions that they hijacked from xda devs
Ok so I'm on 6.0.1 and for the life of me I can't figure out this spastic notification behavior. When I'm using my phone, notifications come in just fine. However let's say I've left my phone on my desk and come back in an hour and pick up the phone... as soon as I turn the screen on, all the notifications start flying in from the past hour, including all the notification sounds 1 by 1 in quick succession. I've checked all the options I can to see if there is anything related to this behavior but I can't find it.
I've gotten used to iOS where my notifications are always on the screen waiting for me so I can pick up the phone and glance and put back down, without the hoopla of watching them fly in after turn the screen on and listening to all the annoying notification sounds jumbled together. I'm by no means new to Android however. I've owned many but my last was my N5 which got long in the tooth so I switched to a iPhone 6S as my daily driver and have been using my N5 just to play around and keep up with development of my favorite ROMS and apps. I saw the 6 on a really good deal so I decided to pick up it and see what it would be like to have Android as my daily driver again.
Anyhow, all that being said, how do I get the desired outcome of notifications actually coming in when the phone is idle and waiting for me without having to load after I turn the screen on? I'm guessing notifications in 6.0+ are tied to wakelock events but not sure. Any thoughts?
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Ok so I'm on 6.0.1 and for the life of me I can't figure out this spastic notification behavior. When I'm using my phone, notifications come in just fine. However let's say I've left my phone on my desk and come back in an hour and pick up the phone... as soon as I turn the screen on, all the notifications start flying in from the past hour, including all the notification sounds 1 by 1 in quick succession. I've checked all the options I can to see if there is anything related to this behavior but I can't find it.
I've gotten used to iOS where my notifications are always on the screen waiting for me so I can pick up the phone and glance and put back down, without the hoopla of watching them fly in after turn the screen on and listening to all the annoying notification sounds jumbled together. I'm by no means new to Android however. I've owned many but my last was my N5 which got long in the tooth so I switched to a iPhone 6S as my daily driver and have been using my N5 just to play around and keep up with development of my favorite ROMS and apps. I saw the 6 on a really good deal so I decided to pick up it and see what it would be like to have Android as my daily driver again.
Anyhow, all that being said, how do I get the desired outcome of notifications actually coming in when the phone is idle and waiting for me without having to load after I turn the screen on? I'm guessing notifications in 6.0+ are tied to wakelock events but not sure. Any thoughts?
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What you are seeing is androids new doze feature. It puts apps to sleep when the device has been on a flat surface for a long time unmoved. Go into settings/apps/What ever app you want and change the battery priority settings.
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What you are seeing is androids new doze feature. It puts apps to sleep when the device has been on a flat surface for a long time unmoved. Go into settings/apps/What ever app you want and change the battery priority settings.
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Ah OK. I totally forgot about doze... Want aware it was implemented in this manner. All the setting to change this would be in the app/notification section and Rick the "treat add priority" option? The description associates this option with so not disturb mode but it also affects doze too?
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Ah OK. I totally forgot about doze... Want aware it was implemented in this manner. All the setting to change this would be in the app/notification section and Rick the "treat add priority" option? The description associates this option with so not disturb mode but it also affects doze too?
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Ahh sorry had to find it again. It is under settings/battery then hit the 3dot menu for battery optimization. Then select the app. And change the settings. An easy work around is to plug it in when you will be leaving it for awhile. This disables doze.
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... as soon as I turn the screen on, all the notifications start flying in from the past hour, including all the notification sounds.
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settings - sounds ¬ifications - nofications ringtone --> none
Before I even get started, I know CM13 is outdated/discontinued/insecure. I'm aware, I'm stuck with it for a while.
I've been trying to get the notification LED on my phone to work the way I want. I had no problems doing this with Light Flow on my old Samsung GS4. Things were not so peachy until I was reminded Cyanogenmod has built in controls for the notification LED. I have everything set up just the way I want it, it demos just fine when I'm punching in the settings. The problem is it won't work reliably when I set my phone down.
With my GS4, if the screen was off and I had notifications, the LED blinked accordingly. My N6P doesn't do that. I've caught it blinking a few times throughout my day, and had friends send me notifications while it's sitting on my desk, so I know it works sometimes. But the LED won't stay that way forever, eventually it just decides my notifications aren't important enough to me and stops blinking.
I'm having a hard time really pinning down it's logic because it seems to just work when it wants to. I have a theory that the way the 6P is really aggressive about saving battery, whatever service controls the LED is being woken up when a new notification comes in and eventually being put back to sleep, but I simply don't know enough to say. While I'm at it, I don't think I have any way of assigning priority to the different notifications (a text message is more important than an email, for example), so my color code scheme might as well go out the window.
I don't know why google seems to hate the notification LED so much, every time I try to google the issue I just get tons of pages telling me how Google hid it away and you can turn it back on in the settings for AOSP. Obviously none of that is helpful, maybe someone here has an answer?
@FoxtrotZero: Wrong forum. This is the Nexus 6 forum. Your device is here.
GFDI, didn't even know there was another device called the Nexus 6. Thanks.
Got my moto g6 amazon exclusive model a few days ago. I started to notice while the phone was just sitting on my desk and gone to sleep / doze? my notifications were not coming through (around 5-10 mins after screen off). Any notifications within that time would be fine. After that if I had any new notifications, I would get them all in one go after I turned the screen on or moved my phone with moto display. (I turned off the motion sensor feature)
Just trying to get an understanding of whats going on. I have played around with some settings and currently seem to have got it back to normal by setting all my important apps (gmail/whatsapp/twitter...) to not be battery optimised. I also found some notification setting elsewhere that gave the default launcher permissions. I used nova launcher so I gave that permission too just in case, but I think the main fix was battery optimisation.
Just find it odd that I have never had to go into battery optimisation before on my previous phones (nexus 4, wileyfox swift) and notifications have come through fine after long periods of time in sleep mode.
Anyone able to suggest something else that may be causing this, or I could try. I wouldnt have noticed this problem if it wasnt for being at my PC and seeing new emails/fb messages coming in and not getting notification on my phone after the phone had gone into sleep.
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As of typing this I recieved an email that also did not notify on my phone. Only when I picked up the phone I got it instantly. Battery optimisation for apps may not have worked.
Hi,
Could you solve this issue? If so, how?
Thanks.
I had the same issue a few weeks ago after playing around and disabling apps/services I didn't think i needed . I had to re-enable the "Moto" app, go into "Moto Display" and enable "Peek Dsiplay". That fixed notifications coming through the locked screen for me.
I'm sure its something everyone has experienced, they hear their phone go off and check and nothing is there.
It happens to me every now and then, but It feels like its happening more frequently. Today I left my phone in another room and herd it go off twice but when I went to go check it was cleared. I know I herd it for sure, it was my Metal Gear ! Sound as well as my Ring Doorbell Sound.
Is there some kind of Notification Logger? Even if they are cleared.
To be honest, I have never had any issue as you describe
I had something similar, but some notifications would disappear after about 5 minutes or so. I had to turn off app power monitor in order for my notifications to stay. Although, I never had an issue with them disappearing instantly. I know also weather updates can make sounds, so that can also possibly be it. At the time before I found out about the app power monitor problem, I had installed an app called notisave and it would save every notification I would receive. Hope this helps.
I had similar, i downloaded an app called Notification History and it would show them, it was one weird app that did it but i don't recall exactly why or how.
there is also a phone setting that says "show most recent notifications only" make sure that's not on
I once disabled google assist or whatever it's called and it helped. After a few updates I abled it again. Seems some of their updates does this.