Hello people,
in the latest Android versions the settings were made much more "simple". So we have just one toggle to change if all google-apps will have access to the GPS signal.
In my case, I´d like to disable it, except for Maps and Android-Device-Manager. But that´s not possible anymore! Because by switching this single toggle, you will enable GPS access also to PlayStore (-Services), G+, Now, Hangouts and much more datasucking applications.
But: As you can see in Maps, or in your location settings (last apps wich used your location), it still works by triangulate your GSM signal.
So, it seems that it doesn´t mind whatever you setup on the device.
What have you done? Don´t you mind about all these Applications, reading all your data and current locations?
Do you use any Apps which deactivate this behavior?
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Hi guys
I just installed facebook from android market, but when i try to check-in, the application can't identify my location. Neither can't add a new location.
If i use the browser, it works.
I have gps on, and in location & security : use wireless networks , use gps satellites, gps source internal.
any solutions?
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does this feature work for you guys?
I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
Open maps and then location settings in that and disable the report from this device option.
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If you disagree in that dialog, then your location discovery will be less accurate, because one of the 2 checkboxes on that screen will not be set.
This appears to be a location settings bug. This also happened to me but with the Facebook app.
vukis said:
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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I had Google Maps related wakelocks as well. They went away when I turned off everything that had to do with
Location reporting form Google Maps, Account Settings and GPS Settings. I'm not sure which "feature" was
causing it but there is indeed a problem.
Can anybody with this wakelock problem install Greenify app from play store. I had this problem but as soon as I hibernated maps they no longer cause wakelock and GPS and all the location settings are on. Maybe it will help same as me without a need to switch anything off.
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vukis said:
I have been in trouble for a past month. Google maps was holding partial wakelocks on sleep with all settings sync check boxes cleared in Google maps app. But it didn`t help. Settings->Battery always had google maps in here for lower or higher percentage. A day ago I started using better battery stats and noticed networklocationpassivecollector holding wakelock. So i dig into Settings->Locaion access-> Access to my location switch is on. If i switch it to off and then again back to ok dialog "Locations consent" appears when I pressed disagree the problems went away. Dialog message: Allow Google`s location service to collect anonymous location data. Some data may be stored on your device. Collection may occur even when no apps are runing.
Can somebody with google maps wakelock problem confirm this?
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
Regards
Phil
PhilipL said:
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Google uses Android phones to keep its Wi-Fi database up to date, saves driving around in a car and getting into trouble for collecting data This is why they state it may use some data even if you aren't using Maps or location services.
Disabling reporting of locations from Maps doesn't change the wake locks, as it isn't the reporting causing most of them.
So Google will use your device to scan for Wi-Fi points, plus enable your GPS if it can to get a location fix to update it's location database of Wi-Fi points. To further confuse things Google seems to have some adaptive way of using devices, perhaps after a time they give individual phones a rest from reporting, or they use more of your phone the more you use more of the service, sort of our cost for getting free location services. This means different people see different battery usage from Google Maps, and the same person will see loads one day then it suddenly stops another.
The best way of stopping it is if you have root access download an application that lets you disable apps, and then disable Google Maps, only turning it on when you need it.
Regards
Phil
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Interesting. Is this an assumption or the fact? If former, could you link up the source please?
What about this app ? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts
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Hey guys. Thanks for great advises I will try auto starts (or greenify), because after disagreeing to Google passive collector Google Now stopped working. But maps wake locks are still away
And yes Google do collects Wi-Fi routers information. I noticed that when I bring my router to other place all connected laptops web based Google maps showed that our current location is my home
I've been trying to get the GAPPs off my Z3C one by one. I root the phone, I start removing GAPPS, eventually I remove something that causes a bootloop and I have to restore the system partition and start trying again. Is there any existing ROM for Z3C which is the basic Sony ROM (as in the camera works, etc) but without GAPPS?
Thanks!
I'd also like to know this, without reinstalling or risk of bootloops if possible.
Would actually like to use features of the phone without google calling back home with timestamped records of every network ever connected on, every app used and apps calling back through gapps api so google can squirrel away location and wifi memory to your google identity forever. Maps would be useful.
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I'd also like to know this, without reinstalling or risk of bootloops if possible.
Would actually like to use features of the phone without google calling back home with timestamped records of every network ever connected on, every app used and apps calling back through gapps api so google can squirrel away location and wifi memory to your google identity forever. Maps would be useful.
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You can disable a lot of this stuff (assuming you have root) using AFWall+ and in the Apps Manager settings, I leave google play services disabled. This mostly works. Where I'm having an issue is that I'd like to install micro gms core https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616 as a replacement for some of these things, but to do that I need to get a clean rom without GAPPS.
Another big issue for me is that, like you, I don't really want Google continually phoning home and such. For me, battery life and simply controlling my own network activity is my main motivation. But anyway, I would be almost really happy to live with google play services simply disabled, and then re-enabling it every once in a while when it's useful (a lot like how I use location), but the issue is that if you try to disable google play services then you get "would you like to remove any updates and go back to the default"? If you click "yes", then reenabling that service means that you have to redownload the updates. I'd be equally happy to live with google play services if I could enable and disable them at will without having to reupdate/uninstall updates every cycle. As it stands, I just live with them disabled. Since I have them disabled, I'd love to go ahead and remove them and try a substitute, thus my question in the OP.
Hoping for some help, I've searched but can't find anything.. In order for the phone number lookup feature to work in Google Dialer, WiFi scanning has to be enabled, which is fine, but causes unnecessary battery drain. Is there any way around that? BBS shows WiFi on 100% of the time with WiFi scanning enabled. I thought about trying to use Tasker to enable WiFi scanning when Dialer is opened, but don't want to get too involved with it if it won't work. Any other suggestions? Not really familiar with IFTTT, but what about that?
Edit: The reason I put location access in the thread title is because as soon as I grant location access to Google Dialer, it turns WiFi scanning on in Google settings.
I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
Tom100% said:
I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
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Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
Adaoh said:
Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
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Can you use Waze and google translate? I've tried the open source alternative to Waze but in the country I'm living in it's too clunky to use. I haven't found an open source alternative to translate (that can scan documents and items in the supermarket, translate them and do all the other things. I might buy a degoogled phone in the future as I don't want to get into the technicalities.
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