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Hi,
I am using Juice Defender Ultimate on my SXS to pump up battery life and it helps a lot. This Stamina mode on the Z - is this about the same thing offered by Sony right out of the box? W. Does it also offer detailed options to modify the settings to my liking or has is it a more radical impact on the system?
It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.
Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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It should have more impact on the device. Juice defender may have some similarities with stamina mode but let's also consider the integration of the feature.
1st juice defender is a 3rd party option and most probably has only limited things which it can do to the device itself. While the stamina mode is an integrated part of the OS so we could expect a 100% compatibility with all it's features.
It's basically like this...
Maybe you could compare it to a real life situation like this.
Battery defender = sleeping pills
Stamina mode = natural sleep
DarkKrypt said:
Thats what juice defender and power saver should've been.
You information is informative ambroos.
Your from esato? Correct me if im wrong.
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I'm everywhere Was here before I was on Esato.
There are times when Stamina Mode can't be enforced though. Then you get a notification that for example Google Plus is preventing the phone from entering Stamina Mode. Usually when those apps are doing some background syncing. But in general it works really well.
and now the big question will adding some 3rd parts app like juice defender or simmilar increase battery life even moar ??
I think installing a third party app like battery defender will interfere with stamina mode because you then have two similar features trying to do the same thing which might give you the opposite results. I think
The main problem with Stamina Mode is that it won't actually stop services/apps. Since I have Gmail and Exchange syncing Stamina just notifies me that those services are preventing sleep; obviously I wouldn't want stop those from syncing. I really wish it would just allow a set 'burst' mode, let you specify the interval and force all syncing/updates to occur during that window.
Ambroos said:
It's sort of the same, perhaps a bit more limited since it gives you less control while also being more effective. Basically when you turn it on it tries to force a deep sleep after a while in standby and it turns off the data connection if you have no exclusions.
With exclusions the data connection will most likely stay on but it'll still go in deep sleep and only wakes up for apps in your exclusion list.
I have to say it works extremely well. Battery drain in standby with stamina mode on and a few exclusions (Gmail, FB Messenger, WhatsApp, GTalk) is virtually zero.
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I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Suppose you are in a meeting or at the movies, you could save a lot of battery if g3/g4 is switched off. If you check every 2 minutes your phone I can imagine it doesn't matter although I suppose they switch the antennas off after longer inactivity
parapaul said:
I'm still struggling with this - when you wake the phone again, everything starts up again, and starts syncing. Doesn't the surge of data transfer on waking cancel out the battery saved while asleep?
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Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...
Ambroos said:
Not sure. I use it with exclusions so data stays on anyway. Not sure if it actually does anything but the battery does last long and the notifications I want still arrive...
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Are you sure the exceptions aren't Smart Connect? Stamina Mode is just a toggle, at least for me.
Try to tap the name of it, not the toggle
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Got my Xperia Z sim free on Friday. Everything was working fine initially but Stamina Mode just doesn't seem to be working properly now. Don't know if it's a software or hardware problem?
When I press the toggle, the standby time left doesn't change at all? And the figure it gives seem permanently low. I've charged it fully overnight and it says standby time left is 8 hours? That said when I have left it in Stamina Mode its told me on a couple of occasions that certain apps are preventing it from working properly (Google Sync etc) but it'd be nice to know if it was working.
Any ideas?
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Got my Xperia Z sim free on Friday. Everything was working fine initially but Stamina Mode just doesn't seem to be working properly now. Don't know if it's a software or hardware problem?
When I press the toggle, the standby time left doesn't change at all? And the figure it gives seem permanently low. I've charged it fully overnight and it says standby time left is 8 hours? That said when I have left it in Stamina Mode its told me on a couple of occasions that certain apps are preventing it from working properly (Google Sync etc) but it'd be nice to know if it was working.
Any ideas?
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Some problem here... So probably is a bug on the firmware. On the 4.2.2 probably will be fix
Same problem here was fine on first day then went all odd.
Likewise
I'm also seeing this problem. In addition it appears the Google mail client which was getting mails by push due to it being white listed in the stamina application list have also stopped coming through when the screen is in standby. Be good to see what that the situation is.
Same.... Stamina mode takes a while to update the standby from memory. I
white listed gmail and stopped getting mail. Maybe it's just not that clever or as data is off it can't truly be white listed.
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Same as of today.
Standby time has no change with toggle on or off.
Showing 14hrs off full charge.
Cleared everything out of stamina mode & reset defaults on all apps but no change.
Don't fancy doing a factory reset yet so I'll lurk here & see if it gets resolved any other way.
Same here.. But im guessing the stamina mode takes the avg time of our usage too, being a new toy we use it alot.. Hence the total time is from our usage... Only my humble opinion thou
My stamina mode seems to be working again. Yesterday it stopped and would show the same figure regardless of whether on or off. Woke up this morning, now on 75% it's showing 15hours on, 8 hours off. But nowhere near the 4 days I was getting on 90% when I first got it.
No issues here with stamina mode. I'm not sure yet if it makes a difference, but at least it's working
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Stamina Mode is buggy as hell, done a few tests and with it on my mail doesnt come through even though its white-listed. It only stops notifications coming though, it doesnt turn the data off like it says it does. Hope 4.2 fixes these problems.
My stamina mode seems to be working again, bugy things :highfive:
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My stamina mode seems to be working again, bugy things :highfive:
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What did you do?
Had this pop up today.
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DeadlyDazza said:
What did you do?
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I didn't do nothing simply start working again, its a bug thing clearly :fingers-crossed:
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Had this pop up today.
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Same here. I also have Exchange (Hotmail push) that is "preventing stamina mode from saving power"
Does anyone know whats going on here with this notification?
I didnt quite get the idea of Stamina.
Was it supposed to disable data when screen off?
or just prevent apps from using data but keeps the data connection alive?
Something is seriously wrong with this software!
I have already made a reset and a repair of the phone and everytime the result is the same...
In the first couple of days stamina is working right, after the second day (third day at the most), it stops working!
Anyone knows how to fix it?
I've thought I was the only one having this kind of issue... Well the same thing happened to me. The strange fact was, that stamina mode stopped worked after I've rooted the device. I was thinking the r00t made the stamina mode doesn't work. I guess I was wrong... Stamina mode was the coolest feature on this phone - it will be sad if we can't use it
Out of the box my stamina mode was showing 30+ hours on & 20+ off.
2 weeks later it's now showing 18 on & 12 off on a full charge.
F***ing thing!
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Guys, you should try the Sony Update Service software - it helped me.
I got 20hrs. on average and Stamina mode not working, also that fast discharging with not entering Deep Sleep. All is fixed now when I have just re-flashed the stock ROM. (May be the Stock ROM downloaded through the Sony Update Service is somehow modified and not the same version I had on the phone initially).
how to fix the xperia z stamina mode
1.switch On the stamina mode and low battery mode
2.Connect the charger and charge your Xperia Z
3.Wait until it reach 100%
4.Check the stamina mode .....
It's happen for me.......:good:
Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Stamina Mode not working?
look at my screenshots
the first two days the difference with and without stamina-mode was huge...so from 1day to 3-4 days
sync is off
facebook deaktivated
and lots of other things are deaktivated
only whatsapp is on
what could the problem be?
if stamina mode is on...every thing is deaktivated...there aren't extra apps which still will down/upld data in stamina mode
Akkuschonmodus - I do not have this enabled along with Stamina mode.
Why are you if you are on 92% ?
Should have nothing to do with this problem tho.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you
feskysvk said:
hello everyone. i have similar problems with stamina as you do.when i bought my phone and i turn stamina mod on it shows me 4 days. after few days it was only 12 hours more and now my stamina mod dont work .when i turn stamina on nothing happened, estimated time stay same. i have stock rom stock kernel ,locked bootloader and i am rooted. do anyone the same problem as me? what can i do? thank you
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yeah i have the same problem
futurama said:
Hi Guys,
I got my XZ on the 1st of march and I absolutely love it, in fact the only thing I preferred about my previous Note 2 was the larger screen, everything else on the XZ is just better.
Anyway.... I'm getting mixed results with stamina mode.
At first, after a full charge I stamina mode would report several days standby time, nut in the last week I only get about 12 hours.
Last night I didnt put the phone on charge, it had 60% battery when I went to bed, I wake up this morning (only 8 hours later) and the battery is on 4%. I checked the battery usage and it said 51% Android system (up till now the screen had been the largest user of battery)
Now I know its probabbly some app preventing stamina mode from putting the phone to sleep, but I cant work out which one.
Is there any way to see specifically which app or part of the android system is using that much power while the phone is on standby?
Are there some options I'm missing which force all apps to sleep?
Does stamina mode automatically turn off wifi and gps when the phone is on standby?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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i experienced this too
and don think any problem
cause when u use phone and apps they store lots of data that need to process (the exclude apps in stamina)
So time will reduce.
i had 4 days now i have 1day.14hrs BUT after 48hrs it didn't use even 50% of battery. (it was 54% )
anyway if u think u have problem restart ur phone with power button + vol.up (hold down 10 seconds)
and then turn on ur phone.
Or reset factory.
Hello guys. Stamina mode doesn't seem to work efficiently for me because back to the days when I just received my new phone, it was like 3+ days of standby time. But now it doesn't do anything , in best case scenario stamina mode adds no more than 2 hours of stand time according to battery usage stats. I was told that stamina mode increases standby mode by at least 3 times of normal. What is the problem?
Maybe the battery has worn out?
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Its a bug and the time it states is untrue.
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my phone (434 fw) shows similar behavior...
at first, when i activated stamina mode ... it added like 24h to the estimated standby.
but now... nothing.
but i think it still does its job (shutting down wifi and all that) just doesn't show it
once i had a notification, that gmail would prevent stamina mode from working correctly...
I switched to the other email application then... don't know if it changes anything.
but still battery stamina is very OK...
love this phone!
I believe it automatically adjusts the time remaining according to your usage.
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I believe it automatically adjusts the time remaining according to your usage.
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Stamina Mode is only affected by Reception, and apps installed/whitelisted. If it says 16 hours when you unplug the phone and the same when you turn stamina Mode off this is obviously wrong, the time calculated is meant to be standby time.
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trololo100500 said:
Hello guys. Stamina mode doesn't seem to work efficiently for me because back to the days when I just received my new phone, it was like 3+ days of standby time. But now it doesn't do anything , in best case scenario stamina mode adds no more than 2 hours of stand time according to battery usage stats. I was told that stamina mode increases standby mode by at least 3 times of normal. What is the problem?
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thr s another thread about it.
>>> Stamina Mode is learning from How u use ur phone; it s working properly and *4 battery life time.
thr s no big bug in it, it s about calculating estimated time in standby > According to how u use and how many apps u exclude.
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Hi,
Its been a week since I bought the Xperia SP. The phone came with 50% battery with an estimated standby time of 2 Days. Now, the battery discharge really quickly. With a 100% battery it lasts only for a day (Estimated standby time of 20 Hours). Well I only listen to music on my phone. Brightness is kept at 1/3rd level and mobile data and wifi aren't used at all. I do a little bit of casual gaming. Subway Surfers , to be more precise. That's all. Also when you switch on / off the STAMINA mode, it doesn't effect the battery life. Estimated Standby Time sticks to what it was before switching on the STAMINA mode.
I need help in order to resolve this situation !
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Hi,
Its been a week since I bought the Xperia SP. The phone came with 50% battery with an estimated standby time of 2 Days. Now, the battery discharge really quickly. With a 100% battery it lasts only for a day (Estimated standby time of 20 Hours). Well I only listen to music on my phone. Brightness is kept at 1/3rd level and mobile data and wifi aren't used at all. I do a little bit of casual gaming. Subway Surfers , to be more precise. That's all. Also when you switch on / off the STAMINA mode, it doesn't effect the battery life. Estimated Standby Time sticks to what it was before switching on the STAMINA mode.
I need help in order to resolve this situation !
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Bro
Read before you make threads.already many threads about battery life of xsp
For the stamina mod problem do this
Settings>apps>all apps>eco mode controler/extended standby mode controler.
Clear its data and reboot.
The stamina mod should work fine now..do this whenever you find the stamina mod buggy
Hope i helped u
dipesh1502 said:
Bro
Read before you make threads.already many threads about battery life of xsp
For the stamina mod problem do this
Settings>apps>all apps>eco mode controler/extended standby mode controler.
Clear its data and reboot.
The stamina mod should work fine now..do this whenever you find the stamina mod buggy
Hope i helped u
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Man.. don't keep saying this like theres a bug with stamina mode.
It's not a bug, the reason his stamina is giving same estimated standby is because stamina is not making a difference, clearing data won't change this....only hide the problem for another few days.
Instead we should try find why his battery life is not good but from my experience this won't be easy... I think there's a problem with the xperia sp's stock rom causing fast battery drain.
@Gamer R - First thing to do is check battery stats for an obvious case. If there isn't one my best recommendation is to restart the phone. This can reduce the battery drain for a couple of days, sometimes restarting doesn't help though.
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Man.. don't keep saying this like theres a bug with stamina mode.
It's not a bug, the reason his stamina is giving same estimated standby is because stamina is not making a difference, clearing data won't change this....only hide the problem for another few days.
Instead we should try find why his battery life is not good but from my experience this won't be easy... I think there's a problem with the xperia sp's stock rom causing fast battery drain.
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Maybe its not making difference for you.but it makes diffrence for me and many other friends(using xsp and other xperias)if stamina mod didnt make a diffrnce why would sony add it?jst an extra app?or as u said earlier for marketting?i dont thnk so...
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Maybe its not making difference for you.but it makes diffrence for me and many other friends(using xsp and other xperias)if stamina mod didnt make a diffrnce why would sony add it?jst an extra app?or as u said earlier for marketting?i dont thnk so...
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It might work for you.. but in OPs case it clearly isn't otherwise his estimated standby would be different with stamina enabled.
The phone does calculations related to your usage/battery drain to work out any benefit from stamina, if there is no benefit it won't report better standby time. Clearing data resets these calculations and nothing more...it wont fix any problem so there's no point in resetting them.
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It might work for you.. but in OPs case it clearly isn't otherwise his estimated standby would be different with stamina enabled.
The phone does calculations related to your usage/battery drain to work out any benefit from stamina, if there is no benefit it won't report better standby time. Clearing data resets these calculations and nothing more...it wont fix any problem.
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Anyways i dont want to fight with you on this...i helped him with the solution which worked for me...estimated time resets when you clear the data.clearing data is a temporary solution.
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Anyways i dont want to fight with you on this...i helped him with the solution which worked for me...estimated time resets when you clear the data.clearing data is a temporary solution.
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Okay
I think he wants a real fix though.. maybe you should give a disclaimer saying that its temporary and only fixes the estimate, not the drain
@spix123 & @dipesh1502
Well clearing data of Eco Mode did help in fixing the Established Standby Time. Time to test it whether is it being accurate or not. Right now I have 14% battery left with an established standby time of 16 hours.
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@spix123 & @dipesh1502
Well clearing data of Eco Mode did help in fixing the Established Standby Time. Time to test it whether is it being accurate or not. Right now I have 14% battery left with an established standby time of 16 hours.
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Clearing the data cant possibly have any benefit to battery life, I have a similar problem to you and already tried it several times. If it appears to improve battery life then its just the restart which helped (assuming you restarted)
Right now your stamina mode estimate is not accurate, it takes a few days for it to correct the calculation as all data has been cleared.
Gamer R said:
@spix123 & @dipesh1502
Well clearing data of Eco Mode did help in fixing the Established Standby Time. Time to test it whether is it being accurate or not. Right now I have 14% battery left with an established standby time of 16 hours.
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100% shud give u a standby of 4days21hours
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100% shud give u a standby of 4days21hours
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I've had an estimated standby of 9 days before but chance of that happening is zero
I got this by having over 4 days on battery without using stamina mode then enabling stamina showed 9 days. This was a fluke though.
What is your battery life like? How many days and what usage?
spix123 said:
I've had an estimated standby of 9 days before but chance of that happening is zero
I got this by having over 4 days on battery without using stamina mode then enabling stamina showed 9 days. This was a fluke though.
What is your battery life like? How many days and what usage?
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For me Its about 3 days. Some calls. Some angry birds. At start Stamina Mode shows for me 9 days. But stamina mode mod keep data of usage and analyze them. Thats why after some days Stand By time is reduced. Clear data from stamina mode, it will show about 9 days. Don't use (really dont) your device and it can be possibly to make SP working 9 days. WHen I charge my phone in evening with stamina mode on in the morning (after 9, 10 hours) i still have 100%.
And hundert of times. There was a lot of Threads about battery for Xperia SP on this forum, and reeeeeeally lot threads about battery life in Android at all. Just use SEARCH option.
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For me Its about 3 days. Some calls. Some angry birds. At start Stamina Mode shows for me 9 days. But stamina mode mod keep data of usage and analyze them. Thats why after some days Stand By time is reduced. Clear data from stamina mode, it will show about 9 days. Don't use (really dont) your device and it can be possibly to make SP working 9 days. WHen I charge my phone in evening with stamina mode on in the morning (after 9, 10 hours) i still have 100%.
And hundert of times. There was a lot of Threads about battery for Xperia SP on this forum, and reeeeeeally lot threads about battery life in Android at all. Just use SEARCH option.
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Are you using stock rom? I know the SP can have good battery life on custom roms.
I've searched through all the threads and none of them helped my battery problems at all so I can understand why OP made another thread even if he saw the other ones.
Yes Stock. But today I will change to existenz mod.
Wytapatalkowane z Xperia SP.
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Yes Stock. But today I will change to existenz mod.
Wytapatalkowane z Xperia SP.
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Do you have anything disabled? I don't see how you can get that battery life on stock rom. I've factory reset, tried airplane mode etc.. nothing works, battery just keeps draining mysteriously.
100% after unplugged for 9/10 hours is just impossible. Even when my battery decides to drain slowly it will still lose 5% in that amount of time with no usage.
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Do you have anything disabled? I don't see how you can get that battery life on stock rom. I've factory reset, tried airplane mode etc.. nothing works, battery just keeps draining mysteriously.
100% after unplugged for 9/10 hours is just impossible. Even when my battery decides to drain slowly it will still lose 5% in that amount of time with no usage.
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I have just disabled/uninstall pre installed operator apps, and some stock apps. Turn off bravia engine and gloves mode. And - I use 2G Network only - 3g or LTE Network cant hold battery so long. More traffic - more battery drain.
I use my phone at about 3 months and it still hold 100% during night after full load. More. When I wake up my device in the morning it still have percentage of battery which was when my XP went to sleep.
Stamina mode of course ON.
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I have just disabled/uninstall pre installed operator apps, and some stock apps. Turn off bravia engine and gloves mode. And - I use 2G Network only - 3g or LTE Network cant hold battery so long. More traffic - more battery drain.
I use my phone at about 3 months and it still hold 100% during night after full load. More. When I wake up my device in the morning it still have percentage of battery which was when my XP went to sleep.
Stamina mode of course ON.
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I tried removing most of preinstalled apps but didn't help at all, also I'm using 2g only.
If I charge phone to 100%, enable stamina then go to sleep... in 10 hours I will have lost at least 20% battery similar to what this person describes http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ometimes/m-p/474409?sl=y&sso_no_log=y#U474409
Do you have c5302, c5303 or c5306? What firmware are you using, 12.0.A.2.254 or older?
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I tried removing most of preinstalled apps but didn't help at all, also I'm using 2g only.
If I charge phone to 100%, enable stamina then go to sleep... in 10 hours I will have lost at least 20% battery similar to what this person describes http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ometimes/m-p/474409?sl=y&sso_no_log=y#U474409
Do you have c5302, c5303 or c5306? What firmware are you using, 12.0.A.2.254 or older?
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When I first time my SP on I have (before doing anything) updated it to newest firmware. Not more. Its C5303.
I cant say anything more. I dont have an issue like you.
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When I first time my SP on I have (before doing anything) updated it to newest firmware. Not more. Its C5303.
I cant say anything more. I dont have an issue like you.
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Well.. you are very lucky then I've read many other complaints just like mine on other forums
I've been trying to fix this problem for nearly 2 months with no success, there must be some bug in the phone software
spix123 said:
Well.. you are very lucky then I've read many other complaints just like mine on other forums
I've been trying to fix this problem for nearly 2 months with no success, there must be some bug in the phone software
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We have (had - I run eXistenZ now) same software. Some people have this issue some not. I think this is hardware problem. Some batt can be better than others. Its like with for example CPU for PC. Some same models U can overclock a lot, and some make reboots after few steps.