[Q] Losing Root - Moto X Q&A

Has anyone had problems with their Moto X losing root? Maybe like every 2 or 3 days my phone loses its root access. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason on why it does. If i reboot my phone, my root access is back and works fine for the next few days and then its gone again until another reboot. Its so weird. It doesn't matter which app that I run. I'm running kitkat now. I had no problems rooting it. I don't recall having the problem when I was running on 4.2

No issues here, I've been rooted and stable for a few months now.

The only time I ever lost root on a phone was when I installed Airwatch for corporate email and apps and stuff. I didn't -know- I was losing root or I never would have done it. Strangely everything that was previously granted SU access worked, but any new requests were not processed.
Have you installed any apps or changed anything else in your system? What method did you use to root?
Is SuperSU just being removed, or it stops working? Sounds strange for sure.

It sounds like you're having the same problem I had, I could be wrong though. Here's the thread I created, give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558916

Turbocom said:
It sounds like you're having the same problem I had, I could be wrong though. Here's the thread I created, give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558916
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This seems to make sense. I would bet that most people that root are also running MotoWPNoMo (or whatever it is..) as well because things like Xposed and other apps that install as system apps won't work without this, or booting through recovery as described.
I ran it right away because Xposed wouldn't work, and haven't had any issues.

You're not losing root... The issue is that JCase's rooting method uses an exploit to disable write protection, and sometimes the write protection comes back.
If you're on 4.2.2, just run MotoWpNoMo from this thread - > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551113

I don't have any crazy apps or new frameworks installed. That motowpnomo is that for KitKat or 4.2.2?
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[Q] New Roots...

So I rooted my Froyo Captivate today, I've never rooted a smartphone before, and I'm loving it. I got rid of all the AT&T garbage and to my surprise my phone actually seems somewhat snappier. I'm looking forward to using tethering and side-loading apps, but I have a newbie question about root access on the phone. Normally under Windows and Linux a user would not want to stay rooted all the time. Is that different on Android? Is it ok to just stay rooted all day long? So far what I've done is use Super One Click to root, installed Titanium Backup, removed the crap from AT&T, then unrooted the phone. Everything seems to be working beautifully except that Ti needs root.
How does everyone else handle this? Just root when you need to use Ti or some other app? I also deactivated the Market filter AT&T put on, so does that stick when not in root?
Thanks for the feedback.
You can stay rooted. Anything that needs root permissions will ask for it when it needs it.
The differance being that you don't have to open up a terminal and type su blah blah. You just hit ok when asked. OR NOT
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leave root access there. it doesnt mean you are running everything as root

[Q] Question moving My Verizon App

I have an odd issue with the My Verizon app. To start off, I'm on a Verizon Moto X DE. I originally installed Jcase's Pwnmymoto to gain root access, and while I had that exploit installed I was able to move My Verizon to a user app so I could Greenify it.
But now I've finally unlocked my phone (just wanted to make sure everything worked on my phone for awhile before voiding warranty), I restored everything to stock beforehand using RSDlite and everything went smoothly, flashed TWRP and made backups and whatnot.
Now the odd thing is if I try to move My Verizon to a user app, it won't "stick". I've even tried uninstalling it but that won't "stick" either after a reboot. I've been using TiBu and even tried another app Systemcleanup I think, but its the same thing each time, after a reboot My Verizon is back to a Vendor App.
I have even tried moving it with Root Explorer but I just get the message "file transfer failed" or something along those lines.
I've converted several other apps to user apps with no issues, including Youtube and Google Maps, both of which stick fine after reboots.
The odd thing is while I was running JCase's exploit I had no issue moving My Verizon, but now just the stock unlocked DE can't seem to accomplish this task.
I'm guessing this could be accomplished via ADB or Fastboot, but I'm not sure if its possible, nor would I know the commands to do so.
Jexx11 said:
I have an odd issue with the My Verizon app. To start off, I'm on a Verizon Moto X DE. I originally installed Jcase's Pwnmymoto to gain root access, and while I had that exploit installed I was able to move My Verizon to a user app so I could Greenify it.
But now I've finally unlocked my phone (just wanted to make sure everything worked on my phone for awhile before voiding warranty), I restored everything to stock beforehand using RSDlite and everything went smoothly, flashed TWRP and made backups and whatnot.
Now the odd thing is if I try to move My Verizon to a user app, it won't "stick". I've even tried uninstalling it but that won't "stick" either after a reboot. I've been using TiBu and even tried another app Systemcleanup I think, but its the same thing each time, after a reboot My Verizon is back to a Vendor App.
I have even tried moving it with Root Explorer but I just get the message "file transfer failed" or something along those lines.
I've converted several other apps to user apps with no issues, including Youtube and Google Maps, both of which stick fine after reboots.
The odd thing is while I was running JCase's exploit I had no issue moving My Verizon, but now just the stock unlocked DE can't seem to accomplish this task.
I'm guessing this could be accomplished via ADB or Fastboot, but I'm not sure if its possible, nor would I know the commands to do so.
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i can tell you how to use adb to move it. not that difficult at all. But if you successfully moved it with TiBu and then it moved back after you rebooted then I doubt adb would fix the problem. I can't think of why pwnmymoto would allow you to do this and TWRP doesn't. I bet that verizon has so many other things built into the phone that it runs checks on boot to make sure my verizon is somewhere and then moves it if it isn't. There isn't even a myverizon.apk so I'm not sure what you are moving (at least not on my phone). You would need to move the apk and the odex as well I'd assume but that might be wrong. You could try freezing it with TiBu then moving it with root explorer. I know the google maps and youtube are just apks with no odex files so that could be your problem but again im not sure.
Yeah that's the odd thing, it worked in pwnmymoto but doesn't now, that's why I'm a little confused on it. I definitely have Myverizon.apk on my phone, in fact it shows up in at least 2 spots on Root Browser. One in system/vendor/app and the other just in vendor/app.
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Still haven't gotten any farther on this, just decided to leave MyVerizon frozen for now, which really doesn't matter too much I guess since I have unlimited data anyway.
Unless someone else comes up with a solution as to why this is happening?

Losing Root after installing XPosed

So, I am using PIE from jcase and everything seems to go smoothly until I install XPosed.
Once I soft-reboot in the xposed installer, the device comes back to life but then after the screen is turned off for about 1 minute or more, I lose all root privileges. Funny thing is, any root checkers I run say that my phone still has root.
I really have no idea what could be causing this.
any ideas?
Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
Already talked to him. He doesn't have any clue either..
I got my B/L unlocked today and have full time root. This is no longer needed.
KJ said:
Why not ask in the PIE thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Jcase posted he didn't want talk about Xposed, tethering, safestrap, etc... ( HERE ) in that thread... He wanted to keep it just about Pie itself.

[Q] Lost root after installing safestrap

I installed 3.75 B03 safestrap on my S5A from AT&T. After I backed up my stock rom, I noticed that Safestrap was disabled and I lost my root on my phone. Does anyone know what might of happened? I have no custom roms or that sort of thing on my device. Please keep in mind that I just switched from IOS to Android a few weeks ago and am trying to learn everything via google. Thanks for any input on this matter.
When you say sfaestrap is disabled do you mean while your phone is booting it shoss the safestrap splashscreen with a red [Safestrap: disabled] because in that case safestrap is working that just means you aren't currently booted in to a rom slot which is fine. As for loosing root, what all have you done to verify this? Have you considered just rerooting?
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Rakuu said:
When you say sfaestrap is disabled do you mean while your phone is booting it shoss the safestrap splashscreen with a red [Safestrap: disabled] because in that case safestrap is working that just means you aren't currently booted in to a rom slot which is fine. As for loosing root, what all have you done to verify this? Have you considered just rerooting?
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Yes, you are correct. It shows red [Safestrap: disabled]. I used root checker from the play store to check if I was still rooted. It determined that I was not. The weird thing is, I rebooted my device and got root access again. So I rebooted it yet once again and I lost root access. It seems to be an intermittent problem. If I keep rebooting, it will eventually give me root access again. I was also able to successfully backup my stock rom and restore the device to give me root access again as well. I've just been playing around with it to try and figure out what is causing it to lose root access. Any ideas? I do have a 64gb evo samsung class 10 card if that makes any difference.
citron2k1 said:
Yes, you are correct. It shows red [Safestrap: disabled]. I used root checker from the play store to check if I was still rooted. It determined that I was not. The weird thing is, I rebooted my device and got root access again. So I rebooted it yet once again and I lost root access. It seems to be an intermittent problem. If I keep rebooting, it will eventually give me root access again. I was also able to successfully backup my stock rom and restore the device to give me root access again as well. I've just been playing around with it to try and figure out what is causing it to lose root access. Any ideas? I do have a 64gb evo samsung class 10 card if that makes any difference.
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Do you have supersu or superuser or any root manager app like that? If not install one and ser it up(install binaries, etc) and give it another go. If yiu do what exactly happens when you check, does any popup come up asking if you want to grant or disallow access?
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Rakuu said:
Do you have supersu or superuser or any root manager app like that? If not install one and ser it up(install binaries, etc) and give it another go. If yiu do what exactly happens when you check, does any popup come up asking if you want to grant or disallow access?
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I already had supersu installed. I don't recall ever having to set anything up. So I think everything is set at default. Should I "install SuperSu into /system"?
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I already had supersu installed. I don't recall ever having to set anything up. So I think everything is set at default. Should I "install SuperSu into /system"?
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That shouldnt be necesaary. So i assume everything ran smooth with installing busybox(required for safestrap) and any other root applications? The dialogs came up and such? You never answered my question last time, have you already allowed root checker root access, or has it ever asked for it at all?
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Rakuu said:
That shouldnt be necesaary. So i assume everything ran smooth with installing busybox(required for safestrap) and any other root applications? The dialogs came up and such? You never answered my question last time, have you already allowed root checker root access, or has it ever asked for it at all?
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Yes, I did allow root checker root access. Sorry I missed that question. Further, everything ran smoothly with busybox. I'll just keep an eye on it. I hardly ever have to reboot my phone. Its just a minor hiccup that I have to deal with for now. Thanks for your help in this matter.

Lost root access after a week, possibly by entering "smart manager"

I got a note 5 SM-N920W8 Telus last week. First thing i did was to upgrade to marshmallow, and then root it. I rooted it fine, wiping the phone in the process of installing the custom recovery. Now i've used plenty of apps that require root, and all have worked fine. About 15 minutes ago I try to go in "Ad away" to disable it temporarily to check if firefox was gonna to react faster on loading pages (it seemed so fast last week, but sluggish lately) only to find out Ad away is complaining I dont have root access anymore. So I go and check in SU , and sure enough, he also complains I don't have root. Marshmallow 6.0.1
Who deleted my root?
The only thing different I recall doing on my phone recently, and could coincide with me not noticing it between 2 apps that need root, was that in the settings, I went into "Smart manager". In there, I was curious to see what this "Device Security" (deactivated) could hold.
Anyone else has had their root removed? Or is there anything else I should look out for , background process or something , that targets my root? I just reflashed it, and it works fine again, but that just never happened to me before..
I have the same problem?? Did you get any answer from any body? Do I have to re root again?
Just flash super su in recovery. Same thing happened to me and i don't know what is the cause of the problem
Roamin64 said:
I got a note 5 SM-N920W8 Telus last week. First thing i did was to upgrade to marshmallow, and then root it. I rooted it fine, wiping the phone in the process of installing the custom recovery. Now i've used plenty of apps that require root, and all have worked fine. About 15 minutes ago I try to go in "Ad away" to disable it temporarily to check if firefox was gonna to react faster on loading pages (it seemed so fast last week, but sluggish lately) only to find out Ad away is complaining I dont have root access anymore. So I go and check in SU , and sure enough, he also complains I don't have root. Marshmallow 6.0.1
Who deleted my root?
The only thing different I recall doing on my phone recently, and could coincide with me not noticing it between 2 apps that need root, was that in the settings, I went into "Smart manager". In there, I was curious to see what this "Device Security" (deactivated) could hold.
Anyone else has had their root removed? Or is there anything else I should look out for , background process or something , that targets my root? I just reflashed it, and it works fine again, but that just never happened to me before..
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Im having similar issues. 6.0.1 on my tmo note 5 rooted perfectly using Max Lee's method. However as soon as I rooted and transfered all my data back I did a nandroid backup. Happen to wipe my phone the other night and and restored the nandroid backup and as soon as it restored I lost root. Happens everytime I restore even a newer nandroid in twrp. Never had this happen on any root method on any note.
WTF..
It's happened again this morning.. Root dissapeared by itself. The only recent thing I can think I did , was buying a game (The cave) from play store last night.
Any way to identify what is removing SU ?
Flash SuperSU 2.74 and delete 'SecurityLogAgent'
I also lost root
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 on the Sprint Network. I just now noticed that my applications that require root access, including Titanium Backup are reporting that my device is no longer rooted. Weird. This has never happened in the past when I had rooted Samsung phones. I will re-flash the Super User file as instructed in this thread and see if that resolves the issue.
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Per your insstuctions, I reflashed SuperSU 2.74 using TWRP. Then once my Note 5 rebooted, I launched Titanium Backup and found "SecurityLogAgent" and uninstalled it. However, in order for me to access TWRP I have to reinstall it using ODIN and immediately after I get the green "PASS" light in ODIN I have to quickly do the 'three finger' button press to launch TWRP. Weird....
Anyway, so far so good.
Thank you.
Battlehero said:
Flash SuperSU 2.74 and delete 'SecurityLogAgent'
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Has a permanent solution been found? I am suffering the same inexplicable loss of root. International N910F on stock.
Bosbouer said:
Has a permanent solution been found? I am suffering the same inexplicable loss of root. International N910F on stock.
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Yes, follow Battlehero's instructions (post #6) worked fine for me.
Roamin64 said:
Yes, follow Battlehero's instructions (post #6) worked fine for me.
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Thanks that worked to a certain extent. Titanium requesting root privileges for backup would still pop up as failed. Checking root would show as unrooted. The Superuser app was updated on the 5th of July 2016. Since I applied that update, i have not lost root on any of my devices.

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