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No voice dialer in ICS - what we tried so far and what seems to work best.

Hi everyone.
First post but long time reader.
I have an un-rooted Vivid I updated the other day through the phone dial trick. Everything went fine with the update except all my previous apps appeared except for the voice dialer. I had a shortcut set on one of the screens and the label showed up with the little android guy as the image. When I clicked on it the message said the app is no longer associated. Sure enough I went through all the apps and it was not there.
I tried to install the apk and checked off the box to allow installation of unknown apps. It appeared it was working then I got a message during the install that the it did not install. I tried a few times just to be sure.
I also noticed that I am not able to use my bluetooth ear piece to accept a call or voice dial.
Does anyone have the voice dial app working or was it left out of the update? I tried the google voice app and that doesn't work with bluetooth.
I have a message to HTC regarding this as well. If there is no solution here, I will post what they plan to do if anything.
Edit 4/2/12 see the posts on pages 3&4 for a Voice dialer that works pretty good so far in ICS. There may be others that work just as well but I'm tired of trying to find them. Until (doubtful) google or HTC fixes this issue I'll stick with I have now.

I don't have a solution, but I have the same problem.
My Blueant Q2 headset has a command to activate the phone's voice command. The phone said my phone doesn't support that feature.
That's unfortunate because I use it all the time.
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Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.

vivid x2 said:
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Does everyone else have the voice dialer like we had in GB? If so can you post the apk?
Using bluetooth without it is very difficult to say the least. It's even more distracting than just picking up the phone and talking except that's not an option in many area I travel through.
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Few to try - this was an issue with the Inspire at times too. This is an older apk and probably won't work, but backup and try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005228
Some suggestions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314862
Also an app in the market called Hands-free voice dial that might work

After reading your post I tried messing with the voice dialer to see if I could help. It turns out it's not even installed on my phone and its not on the market. Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep at me when I hit the call button where as it brought up the dialer before. Also I held down search and tried to voice dial through voice actions and it couldn't pick up my voice through the headset. Right after I was messing with it I got a call and the caller could here me fine through my headset. So I dunno what the deal is. Oversight maybe? I'm fine with voice actions replacing the dialer but not if my button on my headset does nothing and i can't use my headset to use it.
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Okay, so it was a fluke, voice actions picks up my voice now. However, my call button still doesn't activate it. I have to unlock the phone and hold down search to activate it. I can make calls through it fine however so i think that is the solution. I believe the lack of support of a voice dialer button on a headset is most likely an oversight. Sucks but I hope this at lead helps you out for now.
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Okat HTC got back to me and here is their response. It fixed part of the issue but still no voice dialer app. I can now answer an incoming call by pushing the button on the earpiece. So far only half a fix. I'll try to find a decent dialer on the market. The google one sucks.
I can certainly help you with Bluetooth functionality on your HTC Vivid. I essentially want to clear some Bluetooth data from your phone and then see if the issue continues. First let's navigate to home>menu>settings>Bluetooth. Tap on the settings icon to the right of your Bluetooth device's name and let's select unpair.
Now let's return to settings and tap on Apps, then All. Please tap on Bluetooth share and select clear data and confirm. If your Bluetooth headset has an option to clear its partnerships, please do that as well.
We need to restart the phone. To do this let's just hold down power and select restart. When the phone boots back up are you able to pair with and properly use your Bluetooth headset?

yeah I can answer calls, and if I hold it down, it'll redial the last caller in my call log. But yeah if i just hit the button, it makes a beep and does nothing. I actually primarily use my headset for music playback, its a motorola SD-9 stereo bluetooth headset, but it works for calls too. I had to re pair it after the ICS update.

Ours do the same thing. Thanks for confirming I'm not nuts. I hope they didn't rush the update through just to be first with the update to ICS.
I have an older Moto HS850. I'm searching for a decent visor set since I now wear hearing aids. It's a bit tough to hear with the BT earpiece as it is since I have to have an aid out. Until I can get a decent voice dialer app I'll hold off on blowing money for a half assed solution.
Hope HTC comes through and develops a dialer for ICS. At least you'd know it'll be functional. So far I've tried three apps off the market and none have worked for what I need.
I guess I can always switch my phone out with my daughter if I really need to. I told her not to update yet since I was willing to be the guinea pig. She never uses her voice dialer. I would feel like taking a step back but GB was not bad at all.

I agree, gingerbread was great, I was hesistant to update but figured might as well. Hopefully HTC issues a fix for this problem quickly.

Cor-master said:
...Voice actions are supposedly alot better and I wonder if the dialer was done away with in favor of voice actions. One problem with this is on my headset it now does nothing but beep
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I tried holding down the Search to activate Voice Actions. The Vivid seemed to use my Blueant Q2 mic. However, Voice Actions definitely doesn't work as well as the Voice Dialer for dialing contacts.
I'll be monitoring this thread for solutions.

I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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willgill said:
I found a solution that isn't completely eligant buy works.
I downloaded Vlingo and setup the un-car option to auto listen for commands. Don't leave Vlingo in-car on fulltime else it will drain your battery.
However, when I signal phone commands from my header, it fires up Vlingo. Set it to default to in-car Vlingo. From the you can say "Hey Vlingo..." and speak your command. My Blueant Q2 headset still says "Feature not available" but it works.
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Vlingo virtual assistant is the best.

Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
I'm checking out the new Motorola Roadster2. There is a Moto app that is made to use for it. So far all the reviews I read did not say anything about it working with ICS or not working. Most of the gripes were from Iphone users. I may hold off a little while until such reviews start coming in.
The Voice Dialer app we had in GB was an Android app built into GB. I had a version from 2.3.4 on my retired Sony phone that I bluetoothed over to my Vivid. It installed but would not work prpoperly. I tried disabling the voice thingy from ICS and it still didn't work. When I had the GB VD installed ICS was sluggish so I removed it.
Here is the latest response from HTC:
We apologize that you are unable to use the handsfree dialing over Bluetooth. Unfortunately, the Voice Dialer app was removed with the Ice Cream Sandwich update. There is no information available as to when or if this will be added again on the device as it was a change made by Google.

This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.

zacgoesrawr said:
This might fix it,
I took the Bluetooth.apk from a Cyanogenmod and it got my wiimote to connect (see my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560647) it should lift any nasty restrictions that HTC's bluetooth version has put on anything.
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My issue isn't being able to pair my device it has to do with an app that Android left out of ICS that worked so well in GB.
Thanks for the info though. What can you do with the Vivid when it's paired with a wiimote?

vivid x2 said:
Thanks fro the recommendation for vlingo. I haven't tried that one yet. Seems cummbersome to use. The voice dialer app was so easy to use. Everything else so far takes too many steps.
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I understand vivid x2. I had used Vlingo before but then switched to the native Voice Dialer for the simplicity.
My problem with most 3rd party voice dialers is the only recognize and expect first names. With over 600 contacts, that won't work for me. Vlingo and Voice Dialer did use first and last names.
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Im having another bluetooth related issue. I primarily use my headset for listening to music. Since the ics update my music will go into random skipping sessions. It's not related to 4g or wifi as I mowed my lawn using a regular set of headphones and didn't have any issues. There is almost a pattern to the skipping actually. If kill pandora or Google Music and restart it'll fix the issue for a little bit but it'll start up again eventually. No issues before the update.
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Bluetooth Hands-Free Dialing Broken
After reading this thread, I tested my bluetooth hands-free connection in my car. It's BROKEN. My Vivid will connect to the car's audio system via BT, but it will not recognize my voice requests to call a number. It was working last week before I did the ICS "upgrade."
I expected something to not work, but I didn't expect something as critical as a safety feature. I use the hands-free dialing for obvious safety reasons. I have a feeling that HTC is catching heck about this one. They are about to catch some more from me.

I hope this isn't a case of "you got your update now shutup". Hopefully they'll release an update for bluetooth and voice dialing
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[Q]can the moto x do these things?

First I am curious about the always on mic and bluetooth does this work? Second can you make it do commands like this... For example change to the next song in Spotify.
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JustusIV said:
First I am curious about the always on mic and bluetooth does this work? Second can you make it do commands like this... For example change to the next song in Spotify.
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Fr what I have read the spotify action won't work. I think Google play music or whatever is the only supported app for music stuff and probably not even the skip to the next song part you asked about.
The BT stuff works but you have to press the button on your Bluetooth headset them talk into to activate the touches controls
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jayboyyyy said:
The BT stuff works but you have to press the button on your Bluetooth headset them talk into to activate the touches controls
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Not with mine. I just say "OK Google now" and it launches, same as it would without a BT headset
Edit*** it has come to my attention that I was incorrect... BT cannot initiate touchless without pressing a button on the headset... And the moto x has one killer mic.
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Not with mine. I just say "OK Google now" and it launches, same as it would without a BT headset.
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Are you close enough to your phone that it's actually just basing the command off what you are saying as opposed to what the Bluetooth device is transmitting to the phone?
Clearly if you are close enough to the phone or the phone is not somewhere that it cannot hear you then the phone will launch touch less controls. But I was under the impression if it were stuffed away in your bag so it couldn't hear you, you would need to press a button on your BT device before saying the command for it to work. But I could be wrong. Just trying to be more clear on what I meant earlier to make sure we are talking about the same thing.
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I guess we are both right... Touchless control doesn't work when the proximity sensor thinks it's in a pocket or bag. In that case, you do need to use a button on Bluetooth, though, it doesn't use Motorola's"touchless control" just standard voice search.
When the phone is out of my pocket and across the room, I can speak normally in my BT and activate touchless control, assuming that my phone isn't flipped over or covered.
Also, while driving in my truck I noticed, with BT, I can speak normally to activate and issue commands, where as, without BT I need to raise my voice.
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theraffman said:
I guess we are both right... Touchless control doesn't work when the proximity sensor thinks it's in a pocket or bag. In that case, you do need to use a button on Bluetooth, though, it doesn't use Motorola's"touchless control" just standard voice search.
When the phone is out of my pocket and across the room, I can speak normally in my BT and activate touchless control, assuming that my phone isn't flipped over or covered.
Also, while driving in my truck I noticed, with BT, I can speak normally to activate and issue commands, where as, without BT I need to raise my voice.
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couldn't remember where i read the info I was spouting out but I just found it on moto's website
Touchless Control will work with most Bluetooth and wired headsets. To launch Touchless Control simply touch on the talk (Multifunction) button for the accessory, and speak your command, you do not need to say OK Google Now.
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interesting that yours is picking up without you even pressing any buttons.

Does yours not? That statement by moto seems more like "another solution" as it is easier to activate with a single button (in some cases) than speaking the activation phrase.
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theraffman said:
When the phone is out of my pocket and across the room, I can speak normally in my BT and activate touchless control, assuming that my phone isn't flipped over or covered.
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Are you sure the Moto X's mic isn't picking your voice up from across the room? I just tried it from the other side of my room without a bluetooth headset and was able to activate Touchless Controls.
A true test would be to see if it still activates via bluetooth from another room.

clankfu said:
Are you sure the Moto X's mic isn't picking your voice up from across the room? I just tried it from the other side of my room without a bluetooth headset and was able to activate Touchless Controls.
A true test would be to see if it still activates via bluetooth from another room.
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Well, I feel like a horses patoot...
I tested this out and you guys are in fact correct, just always appeared to have worked through BT. I guess the good ol placebo effect worked, as for me feeling like BT was more accurate while in my truck.
Now I am astonished as to how accurate the mic is from far distances and with background noise... It always appeared as though the BT was enhancing distance and noise cancelation... Apparently, it's all the moto x... Color me impressed.
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[Q] Wired Headphones Button Not Working

I'm using wired headphones with a button. Sometimes the button will play/pause music, and sometimes it does not work. I tried using the Headset Controller App, and also had mixed results. The free trial seemed to work fine, but once I bought the app, it stopped working. I tried the free version and that no longer works all the time. I uninstalled the app, and it still works sometimes. I'm curious if anyone else is having mixed results using wired headphones? or if anyone knows a solution?
Not sure if it matters, but the headphones are Bose QC20. They always work fine on other devices. Using Google Play Music app.

I have the same problem with my moto X. Only Apple headsets and the one (crappy) that came with my moto X works, even the SOL Republic tracks air in wired mode does not work. When I put an Apple headset and use the button, for a little time, other headsets works inconsistently, but works.
I searched on the internet and found nothing.
Today I tested it with the New Moto X (2nd gen), and the same problem occurs.
A shame for Motorola.

jjmiii said:
I'm using wired headphones with a button. Sometimes the button will play/pause music, and sometimes it does not work. I tried using the Headset Controller App, and also had mixed results. The free trial seemed to work fine, but once I bought the app, it stopped working. I tried the free version and that no longer works all the time. I uninstalled the app, and it still works sometimes. I'm curious if anyone else is having mixed results using wired headphones? or if anyone knows a solution?
Not sure if it matters, but the headphones are Bose QC20. They always work fine on other devices. Using Google Play Music app.
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so here's the "problem" which i'm not sure if you're paying attention to or not:
the most current (top most) app will only respond to the button request.
example: phone call - it's the top most app, so you can mute/unmute/hangup/answer the phone call
when i go riding (cycling) and i have slacker playing the same time as endomondo, i have to leave one of the apps on top to get the desired button response result. endomondo responds to the button by giving you current information. slacker responds by pausing/resuming playback.

https://paperpc.wordpress.com/2013/...software-update-cures-wired-headset-headaches
is this update is included in 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 system update or not the os displayed in post looks like jelly bean

Smartwatch With Bluetooth Headphones?

Hi
I was just wondering if this, or any other smartwatch, can be used in conjunction with bluetooth headphones? Or can only one bluetooth device be connected to phone at the same time?
This could prove to be a massive dealbreaker for me.
Cheers for any info

Good question as I have a set of Motorola Bluetooth headphones.
Ian B

I could swear that I read somewhere someone has a note 3 paired with a gear and using some Bluetooth headphones. I believe they claim they can user the controls on either the headphones and watch to make and receive calls. So, could use the watch to answer and would be using the Bluetooth headset for the mic and speaker.
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I have been only able to connect my bt headset for music while the gear is set to phone audio. I really wish there was a way to disable that.
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I mean it doesn't really make much sense to not have that. Would be ideal being able to see who is ringing via the watch but speaking and listening via the headset.
That IMO is what it's all about. Not many people are wanting to talk into their watch and listen via a loudspeaker

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I mean it doesn't really make much sense to not have that. Would be ideal being able to see who is ringing via the watch but speaking and listening via the headset.
That IMO is what it's all about. Not many people are wanting to talk into their watch and listen via a loudspeaker
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That is not possible except if you have a Note 3 or a Note 2 with the leaked 4.3 from Samsung
I have a Note 8 3g with I use as main phone-tablet during working days, 4.2.2, and acquired a gear. Everything (more or less....) was working except the handling of the bluetooth headset. It maybe related some software piece from Samusung included on the official 4.3.
I have seen the update on 4.3 plan and my device looks not included until maybe end of the year or early next January.... uff, sami, you are loosing a customer.
Finally, after test with 2 diferent gears, I have decided to acquire a sony smartwatch sw2 which works like a charm with the note 8 3g. You can imagine for me, using the tablet 8" as phone, that no possible without a bluetooth headset. The other option was to talk through the watch and it looks stupid and no possible to have confidentiality in the calls.....

fade2black101 said:
Hi
I was just wondering if this, or any other smartwatch, can be used in conjunction with bluetooth headphones? Or can only one bluetooth device be connected to phone at the same time?
This could prove to be a massive dealbreaker for me.
Cheers for any info
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I used my LG Tones+ headset to pair up while my watch was also paired. It does work, but I had to press a button on my headset to let it know to go to that device. By pressing the headset button while in the call, the watch picked up the phone call first, then I pressed a button on my Tones headset to get it over to that. By answering the the Tones headset, it goes straight there.

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I used my LG Tones+ headset to pair up while my watch was also paired. It does work, but I had to press a button on my headset to let it know to go to that device. By pressing the headset button while in the call, the watch picked up the phone call first, then I pressed a button on my Tones headset to get it over to that. By answering the the Tones headset, it goes straight there.
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What phone and android version do you have?

Ok well its good to know it can work.. I will wait until my Note II gets updated and see if the agent smartwatch/gear 2 have to offer before I decide.
In no rush but I'll probably get a smartwatch at some point. I just don't want it to affect usage of my bluebuds x bluetooth earphones.

On my N3 I have both a Gear and my car stereo blue toothed at the same time. All works fine.
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beginner said:
What phone and android version do you have?
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Verizon Note 3 with stock 4.3.
stang9779 said:
On my N3 I have both a Gear and my car stereo blue toothed at the same time. All works fine.
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This. I forgot about this. I have Ford Sync and it works fine as well. I answer texts using S Voice on my watch and still make phone calls over Sync.

I am using the Gear in combination with a Note 3 and a Pair of Sony MDR-1RBT's and they work flawlessly. The Gear doesn't interfere with Bluetooth Audio on the phone.

fade2black101 said:
I mean it doesn't really make much sense to not have that. Would be ideal being able to see who is ringing via the watch but speaking and listening via the headset.
That IMO is what it's all about. Not many people are wanting to talk into their watch and listen via a loudspeaker
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Hi,
IF this is the case why spend a fortune on the gear and not make use of its potential? Why not purchase the new Sony 11? That would give you the notifications you require plus the ability to use a BT head set?
Just a thought.

Ryland Johnson said:
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IF this is the case why spend a fortune on the gear and not make use of its potential? Why not purchase the new Sony 11? That would give you the notifications you require plus the ability to use a BT head set?
Just a thought.
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I don't think its very feasible for the vast majority of people to use the watch as a loudspeaker/phone for privacy issues + annoying everyone else.
I wasn't planning on getting the gear anyway as I don't think it's a good buy. (Given its price). I plan to wait until the gear 2 or agent smartwatch arrive. It would also be nice to also be able to use it see change tracks, view album art/info for music too while listening to music through bluetooth earphones too.
In essence, I don't agree that being forced to speak to the watch on loudspeaker in front of everyone is using the watch to its potential. I find this more a massive drawback than a positive. Being able to use my earphones to listen is, IMO, the full potential.
Hopefully this will be the case with all these watches, as it is the most logical.

It works for me now. The gear and my BT works now since I got back on to MI9 firmware
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sliblue said:
I am using the Gear in combination with a Note 3 and a Pair of Sony MDR-1RBT's and they work flawlessly. The Gear doesn't interfere with Bluetooth Audio on the phone.
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Hey There - I have the Sony SW 2, but was thinking of selling it to get the Gear, my question is how do you pair both the smartwatch and bluetooth to work simultaneously (to have the ability to use the watch to screen calls, and the headset to answer calls)?
Thanks

Teczguru said:
Hey There - I have the Sony SW 2, but was thinking of selling it to get the Gear, my question is how do you pair both the smartwatch and bluetooth to work simultaneously (to have the ability to use the watch to screen calls, and the headset to answer calls)?
Thanks
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I use the set of NOTE3 + MW600 + Gear - so far it works fine.
However - I have MW1 headset and .... it does not work with NOTE 3 - each time You start the phone call it is necessary to manually activate "headset" on the phone!

alprazolam said:
Verizon Note 3 with stock 4.3.
This. I forgot about this. I have Ford Sync and it works fine as well. I answer texts using S Voice on my watch and still make phone calls over Sync.
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What year sync do you have? I have a 2009 Sync and mine disconnects Sync from phone audio whenever I try to make a call. Reconnecting works for 5 seconds then disconnects. Even after disconnecting the gear from bluetooth, sync is still doing this now.

I am wondering if i can use the Galaxy S as a standalone after pairing it with my N4. I would like to use a bluetooth headset paired with the watch so i don't have to use the speaker mode. IS that possible? Has anyone tried this?

On GV09 the BT headset works
fade2black101 said:
Hi
I was just wondering if this, or any other smartwatch, can be used in conjunction with bluetooth headphones? Or can only one bluetooth device be connected to phone at the same time?
This could prove to be a massive dealbreaker for me.
Cheers for any info
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On the chinese GV09s / (U8 ?) phone, you can successfully connect a BT headset directly
In BT dialer, you can select 'new device' and next put your BT headset in pairing.
The BT headset can be used for 'local music', (SIM) direct phone, radio etcetera. It works nice

Bluetooth voice commands?

I currently have a galaxy s3 running Cyanogenmod 10.2.1 and I have ran into a very annoying problem. I bought a bluetooth headset in the hopes that I could press the call button and use google now to send text messages, calls, etc. However it works nothing like this at all, sure it will let me do that if the phone is unlocked, but if the screen is off and it is in my pocket the best I get is "voice dialer".
What I am wondering is if the Moto X is able to touchless control, through a bluetooth headset, while the device is locked? If so then I am sold on the phone. lol... Or should I wait for the X+1?

reluttr said:
I currently have a galaxy s3 running Cyanogenmod 10.2.1 and I have ran into a very annoying problem. I bought a bluetooth headset in the hopes that I could press the call button and use google now to send text messages, calls, etc. However it works nothing like this at all, sure it will let me do that if the phone is unlocked, but if the screen is off and it is in my pocket the best I get is "voice dialer".
What I am wondering is if the Moto X is able to touchless control, through a bluetooth headset, while the device is locked? If so then I am sold on the phone. lol... Or should I wait for the X+1?
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yes the moto x can . the x+1 will have better features. it's probably worth the wait .
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Agreed. I can touch my BT headset button with the phone locked and screen off and say 'call (wife's name)' and choose mobile, work, etc. No unlock necessary. BTW, I'm using a Moto H17 BT headset.