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Hi All,
I've seem several all-in-one methods to root, lag fix, remove AT&T crap and side loads. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me which method is the best and safest method.
I'm also still hesitant on rooting my Captivate. Not sure exactly why I would want to do this in the first place. But I am so tempted to do the Lag fix. I'm also wondering if I should wait until froyo comes out than root and apply the lag fix?
Mike
follow the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
and when it comes to rooting it, dont.
just go flash the unleash the beast rom and it also tells you how to enable sideloading which will let you download applications from outside the market
Unleash the beast is the first thing I do after a flash.
Then there are a few addons (like market access) from that pdf that are nice.
What is the market access for?
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mets3214 said:
follow the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
and when it comes to rooting it, dont.
just go flash the unleash the beast rom and it also tells you how to enable sideloading which will let you download applications from outside the market
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Why wouldn't he want to root?
SuperRooter does everything and the kitchen sink, but works for JH2 and JH3 firmware.
If running stock ROM from the store, Unleash the Beast works great, but doesn't address lag fix (unless it has changed since last week).
does anyone know definitively if i unlock att's locked marketplace, and enable side loading will those be reverted back to stock when i do a factory reset. i'm going ot have to do a warranty exchange within 30 days or my purchase date, but i just want to make sure that i can do these and still revert it back to stock, then reroot it for the return. i already know about being able to reroot it, but i just need to know if my device can be recrippled for the return. thanx in advance
yes you can unroot totally, back to stock with all bloatware and everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
go there read up and it is really easy actually. good luck
p.s.... i did method 4. i did not see the phone and computer screen like it shows but it does work if you do it just like he says
I used unleash the beast, and all it unleashed was force closes. I had to reflash to stock. Then I rooted only to remove the att bloatware, with Titanium Backup. As others have noted, I find value in some of the bloat, so I prefer to uninstall myself. I then flash the circle battery mod type D. Then I do the lagfix. I use taytanna (?) Lagfix ext4 version. Then I put on the fonts (there is one central font post that links to the vibrant post with 30+ fonts. I don't enable sideloading, other than the fonts there isn't anything I want that isn't in the market. I use the sideloading application from android central. Then I am good to go.
I guess I prefer to do a lot of that myself. I like to be in control, and customize it the way I want. I climbed over the wall to leave Steve's garden because I want control in the first place.
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Ok, so after having a long battle in my head about whether I should buy the iPhone 4 or the Captivate, I decided to go on ahead and buy the captivate.
I recently found out about something called "rooting" and have been reading up about it for the past few days.
I learned that people like to root especially for tethering and installing android rom updates that have not been released yet by their carriers. However, I would probably NOT use tethering because I am planning to get the $15 per month, 200mb per month, data plan.
I have installed custom Roms before on my Sony Xperia X1, so I know the general risks of installing them. However, I am new to android, and I have a few questions about rooting.
What exactly does rooting allow you to do?
I remember reading that you must root your phone in order to sideload apps (install non-market apps, right?). This was the main reason I wanted to root. However, I found this : http[:]//www[.]androidcentral[.]com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine (sorry, can't post links yet)
This program seems to solve that problem.
Next, I want to be able to install themes, like Launcher Pro especially. Is it possible to do this without rooting by sideloading the app or must I root my phone?
Third, I know that another great advantage of rooting your phone is that you can overclock to 1.2 GHZ. Does this feature really give you that much of a power boost? Also, does it, in any way, decrease your device's lifespan? If so, is it worth it?
I don't really mind the at&t bloatware, and their censorship of the market is easily passed by turning on wifi and putting your phone in airplane mode (I think).
Now, let's say that I DO decide to root my phone. If I do, I would use the "1 click to root" program, in order to minimize the risk of bricking.
Once I root my phone, I would probably go ahead and install this : http[:]//forum.xda-developers[.]com/showthread.php?t=751934
However, there are two things I am confused about: How do I make a nandroid backup so that I may restore my phone to stock and then unroot it after installing a custom rom? Also, what the hell is "odin"?
Thanks in advance, guys.
Root is a linux term, or a unix term. On older systems the root user is like the admin in windows. On some modern distributions you can't log in as root but can use the root permissions with use of a root password and a sudo command (super user do). so the term super user and root are interchangeable.
To root your phone grants you root permissions via an app that grants or denies permissions to individual apps, no password required. By adding a terminal interface you can do nearly anything that can be done on a pc with linux. It is needed for many mods and having it and knowing what to do with it can be very satisfying.
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Odin is a computer application to re flash your phone. Most mods can be done on a captivate without it but get it just in case you do something stupid! I did!
The overclock is pretty safe. It doesn't really hinder battery life much because if it goes to full speed it gets the task done faster so its back to being throttled sooner. Its stock voltage and there is likely more to come with over and under voltages. The hummingbird has a bit more potential than that. That said the phone runs great without it.
I believe a nandroid backup can be done in clockwork recovery. And my phone didn't need to side loss launcher pro. I was already rooted but I don't think root is needed either. The search on the marker doesn't always find it. Also try adw. And do the lag fix. To see what your phone can really do in quadrant.
I used the over clock with unleash the beast and the lag fix, then I set a replacement lockscreen wrong and locked up my phone, I decided to reflash it. Now I use SRE and the lag fix. But it doesn't include the wireless teather app that comes with unleash the beast.
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NeoXer0 said:
Ok, so after having a long battle in my head about whether I should buy the iPhone 4 or the Captivate, I decided to go on ahead and buy the captivate.
I recently found out about something called "rooting" and have been reading up about it for the past few days.
I learned that people like to root especially for tethering and installing android rom updates that have not been released yet by their carriers. However, I would probably NOT use tethering because I am planning to get the $15 per month, 200mb per month, data plan.
I have installed custom Roms before on my Sony Xperia X1, so I know the general risks of installing them. However, I am new to android, and I have a few questions about rooting.
What exactly does rooting allow you to do?
I remember reading that you must root your phone in order to sideload apps (install non-market apps, right?). This was the main reason I wanted to root. However, I found this : http[:]//www[.]androidcentral[.]com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine (sorry, can't post links yet)
This program seems to solve that problem.
Next, I want to be able to install themes, like Launcher Pro especially. Is it possible to do this without rooting by sideloading the app or must I root my phone?
Third, I know that another great advantage of rooting your phone is that you can overclock to 1.2 GHZ. Does this feature really give you that much of a power boost? Also, does it, in any way, decrease your device's lifespan? If so, is it worth it?
I don't really mind the at&t bloatware, and their censorship of the market is easily passed by turning on wifi and putting your phone in airplane mode (I think).
Now, let's say that I DO decide to root my phone. If I do, I would use the "1 click to root" program, in order to minimize the risk of bricking.
Once I root my phone, I would probably go ahead and install this : http[:]//forum.xda-developers[.]com/showthread.php?t=751934
However, there are two things I am confused about: How do I make a nandroid backup so that I may restore my phone to stock and then unroot it after installing a custom rom? Also, what the hell is "odin"?
Thanks in advance, guys.
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Root if you need to - if nothing you want to do requires root, then don't bother.
You can install (sideload) apps without root. Again, root access is NOT required to sideload. The wondermachine does it by using the Android SDK (they baked it in); but you can just as easily download the Android SDK, unzip it, go to the tools directory and use the ADB tool to install apps. USB Debugging mode is required for this or the wondermachine (it is a checkbox you click on the phone).
Rooting will let you sideload directly on the phone without connecting to a pc, but you need to do more then root, you need to change a db file.
Other launchers are installed without root, so you don't need root for this.
You do need root for nandroid backup, but since it will backup your present state, a restore will still be a rooted phone.
So if you want to restore to factory fresh - the ODIN one click is the way to go. It has the ROM and Odin all in one package. Other version of Odin allows you flash different ROMs.
Nandroid and RomManager are used to switch ROMs and restore all on the phone - so you can install a new ROM, but then rollback to the old with all your configuration intact - this requires root.
That 200mb plan is going to be tough to stay within on the Captivate. The background syncing with google and mail app activity will chew up alot more than you think.
Your first concern with this phone will be how to control data, not whether or not to root.
I do think controlling the data use will be easier on the Captivate than it would be on the iPhone4.
For simplicity, I think SRE 1.2.1a does the best job of "remodeling" the phone.
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
alphadog00 said:
Root if you need to - if nothing you want to do requires root, then don't bother.
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Well, this is much like there is a sexy girl in your room and people tell you to do nothing!!! People here tells you a lot of cool stuffs with being rooted, that changes "what you want to do"
PS: In my case I decided to wait until the 2.2 comes out. From now on, I just read this forum . However, I did root my phone and flash back to stock using Odin, just to see whether it is like original afterward (and it seems to be!). I believe I still have warranty with the phone then (can anyone confirm about that again for me???)
NeoXer0 said:
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
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Titanium backup, and maybe samsung kies, I know kies works for contacts, and media and synching to outlook. I thought it works for apps but I may be thinking of htc sync, I never really use either.
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cppc said:
Well, this is much like there is a sexy girl in your room and people tell you to do nothing!!! People here tells you a lot of cool stuffs with being rooted, that changes "what you want to do"
PS: In my case I decided to wait until the 2.2 comes out. From now on, I just read this forum . However, I did root my phone and flash back to stock using Odin, just to see whether it is like original afterward (and it seems to be!). I believe I still have warranty with the phone then (can anyone confirm about that again for me???)
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If you flashed back to stock no one knows you rooted so your warranty is safe.
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NeoXer0 said:
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
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Clockwork mod will let you create rom backups along with you app data
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Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.
monkeyhouse said:
Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.
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I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.
Devo7v said:
I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.
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Well, so far, my experience has been that the stock ROM is the most stable. Since I have seen HyperDrive and GPE and have even added some things from Sony Zperia, I see things I like in all of those. If I can tweak my stock and have all the parts from other ROM's that I like, why wouldn't I? There is no local Best Buy here, but I rarely take my equipment to a business for service, too many kids who don't really know what they are doing, I guess. Also, I thought I read somewhere that unlocking my phone was what would prohibit me from installing updates? But since you mention that subject, couldn't I clean the slots, un-root, remove safestrap and do a factory rest and have my original ROM? I know last week I was trying to flash a widget and I did a factory reset, wiped cache and it seemed to be stock to me. I know I had to re-setup my accounts and re-download my apps. I was able to download the last AT&T update, just couldn't install, but I still had root and safestrap. So, from what I read, I could probably install the update if I wanted to and took care of root.
So, I guess to answer your question, I get a kick out of making changes in general, whether if be with my stock ROM or an added one. I'm not a developer, but I do wish I knew more about the OS so I could help with the bootloader issue.
One thing for sure, I definitely appreciate the help I get from the folks here. Pretty fun stuff.
After towelrooting and adding safestrap, I found that Sammy's TW os is cemented into any of the roms I may want to use. So, I am returning my rooted phone to ATT and getting my money back. Getting a Nexus 5.
I need to factory image this *****. Is there a factory Kitkat image available that I can use with Odin?
Any chance of it not being detected?
Thanks for the help.:good:
The image for KK for the Note 3 has been posted here. It's rooted, so you'll have to unroot (remove busybox first) after you install it. Oh - uninstall Safestrap first. (You'll have to read threads to find the 4.4.2 file - I don't keep links to threads I don't need, but try the Odexed version at this thread. Aside from being rooted, it should look exactly like stock. You can't back up an image of the ROM without being rooted, so any image you find will be a rooted one. But SuperSU will remove most signs of root. [If Samsung wants to investigate every byte of internal memory, they might be able to detect that you once did something. But if your luck is that bad never get out of bed. The stores will turn the phone on, look around a bit and accept it as stock, even if you've put your name and email address in it, although you SHOULD do a factory reset before returning any phone.
As far as your original post, yes, you'll find the original ROM in the stock slot in Safestrap after you install it. That doesn't mean that you can't successfully run some ROMs in other slots (no guaranties yet, Hashcode is still working on the problem) or you can back up the stock slot, wipe it, install any ROM there that you like (the "plain vanilla" method of using Safestrap in Kit Kat right now).
If you can't wipe the stock slot, uninstall Safestrap, reboot to recovery, do a factory wipe, reboot normally and reinstall Safestrap. (Make sure you're using 3.75, or even 3.72. 3.71 is for 4.3, and it won't work on Kit Kat.)
The Nexus is a nice phone, but Safestrap has saved me from a few stupid blunders that normally would have required that I buy a new phone. (Try flashing a keyboard in recovery. Then boot. If you boot to the slot you flashed the keyboard in you have a pretty good soft brick. With Safestrap, just reboot into Safestrap and reflash a real ROM. Total panic - 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back, instead of $700, due to my own inattention.) I actually don't want a phone without Safetstrap or something equivalent any more. It's like a desktop you can't install an OS to that comes with multi-boot. If you screw one up, just boot into another one. Even if you only ever run one ROM, it's worth it for the safety alone.
Thread Cleaned. The childish trolling has gone far enough. An honest question was asked, honest answers should be given. Any further trolling will be met with moderator actions.
Thank you for the updates. This will be great. Just need to sit down and make sure it's done right. I appreciate the cleanup and trolling wasnt my intention.
I'm beginning to understand how good safestrap is for me. I did a little checking on how to use it further and yes, it is a good safeguard against blunders.
I'm thinking if I can get a working rom that I like that isnt so touchwiz based but still gives me good s-pen functionality, maybe the phone is worth keeping. I just hate samsung and how they've really f-ed up the os in general, not to mention the amount of crapware that comes with it.
cwis said:
I'm beginning to understand how good safestrap is for me. I did a little checking on how to use it further and yes, it is a good safeguard against blunders.
I'm thinking if I can get a working rom that I like that isnt so touchwiz based but still gives me good s-pen functionality, maybe the phone is worth keeping. I just hate samsung and how they've really f-ed up the os in general, not to mention the amount of crapware that comes with it.
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Don't blame Samsung for the bloat. Blame at&t! You can also blame at&t for locking the bootloader and not allowing us to have an factory image restore. Praise to the almighty safestrap!
Finding a non touchwiz rom with good s-pen integration is going to be hard. You can blame Samsung for that!
Digital Kat Extreme is good but the s-pen sucks. I may try this one instead: http://galaxynote3root.com/att-gala...r-att-galaxy-note-3-download-booster-working/
Tested the S5 rom works beautifully.
Tested the Note 3 rooted rom works slow, but so did the factory image. WTF???
cwis said:
Tested the S5 rom works beautifully.
Tested the Note 3 rooted rom works slow, but so did the factory image. WTF???
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So is it fast with S5 ROM? I agree with you that our AT&T Note3 is POS.
I tried many different ROMs. After installing everything I normally use, it's always a dog. Taking 1 second to turn on the screen from sleep should not happen on a Snapdragon 800. I tried removing xposed mod, it becomes bit faster but still found it lagging a little time by time.
I'm going to try the S5 ROM now that you suggest it.
edit: S5 ROM is really fast! I hate touchwiz to death, but this one is fast for real. Instant on from standby. I might actually stick with touchwiz on this instead of Nova Launcher.
edit2: Because the bootloader is locked, there is a bug where the phone never goes into deep sleep mode. I don't really mind because the battery still lasts 24 hours with 1:30 screen-on time. No lag turning on the screen is the thing I really like. I did experience another bug where the screen won't turn on for more than 30 seconds, and I had to force reboot.
I have a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910T. Ive rooted and installed some mods and before I go further I'd really like to start from a completely clean slate just to rule out any conflicts. That said, what wipe options in TWRP do I want to use, or is reflashing the stock firmware good enough? I downloaded and reflashed the stock firmware from sammobile and it went well, but I noticed that I still have all my applications installed and everything looks the same. So, what did reflashing actually do? Did it overwrite my system files? I know I had to re-root after the flash.
Anyways, the whole point is that I'm trying to get jimmydene's unlocked wifi tether mod to work and it's still counting against my tether cap. He said it's best to start from a "clean install" and I'm not really sure what this means. Plus, I may need a stock "deodexed" ROM and I'm also not clear as to what this means even after attempting to do some research.
If someone could guide me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. First and foremost I'd like to restore my phone to complete stock like it just came out of the box, just to make sure I don't have any weird files laying around somewhere from the mods I've tried. And secondly, I'd really like to get unlocked wifi tethering to work. Thanks in advance for any help offered.