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Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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pborner said:
Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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screwed for the time being. jcase already verified there's other ways to root the update but won't release them yet. in due time I'm sure someone will release something. I'm patiently waiting too.. bought a used moto x with the update already applied. sucks.
If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.
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If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.
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Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.
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Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.
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You cannot downgrade firmware.
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You cannot downgrade firmware.
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I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.
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Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.
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Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.
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Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.
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There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).
Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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if you are on verizon and you go to a verizon store, they are typically pretty nice there. Basically, you could walk in say that you accidentally took the OTA and you wanted to root so can give you me a new one. They will probably say yes. Or you can just say your battery drain is really bad and you have spent hours trying to fix it but people on forums said you needed to return it. The guy at my store doesn't even ask or look at my phone anymore if i bring it in...
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There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).
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This is good to hear... Do you happen to know if there's been any solid progress made on a bootloader unlock for Verizon? I wish I knew the first thing about Android programming so I could help out in this effort. I love my Moto X as is, but would love to see permanent root methods so we could have access to custom kernels (and so I can try to get rid of the damn NLP wakelocks).
Anyone else still stuck on 4.4?
I have decided not to root my phone or flash any rom that has not been directly issued to my phone by Google. I'm still too happy with my device to mess around with that.
Therefore, I decided to create a thread for the people who are still using 4.4 because they haven't got the update yet. I'm in Malta... Anyone else?
What's better than the mutual anticipation for something new, right?
Sidenote: will the update fix Google Now not working on some devices?
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Anyone else still stuck on 4.4?
I have decided not to root my phone or flash any rom that has not been directly issued to my phone by Google. I'm still too happy with my device to mess around with that.
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I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.
Why not sideload it?
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I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.
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Why not sideload it?
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My laptop is not available at the moment. I am getting it repaired.
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I think you should at least consider rooting, the benefits of that are countless. I just re-wiped my phone to stock+root so I can just sideload the 4.4.2 update.
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I am also using 4.4 stock + root. Do u know how to update to 4.4.2?
koolthing said:
I am also using 4.4 stock + root. Do u know how to update to 4.4.2?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557523
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My laptop is not available at the moment. I am getting it repaired.
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Then just wait. Like 2 weeks for Google to roll out the updates. No point in this thread
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I'm still on 4.4 too. I heard you can install it without rooting though.
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I'm still on 4.4 too. I heard you can install it without rooting though.
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you need adb. that's all.
I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?
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I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?
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Because it hasn't rolled out to everyone yet. Give it time if you don't want to sideload it.
I am on 4.4 and I could have done sideloading, but I don't care much. Been doing enough nightlies with i777 (ATT SGS2) until last month when it died. I like the pure G experience more than I thought (I thought I would go for CM11 immediately after I get N5 then Omni) and I see not much issue with 4.4. I don't use my phone to take a pic much - I have Fuji XE-1 and Canon 5D for that.
I will get it when I get it. Who knows.. Google might have really started nightlies and 4.4.3 is around the corner.
Edit: Well, it looks like they have decided to give it to me just now.
I just got my 4.4.2 ota update yesterday. Chose not to sideload like I did for the 4.4.1 update. My N4 got the ota update on Mon night (it's stock, not rooted). To some degree, it's all just a crap shoot.
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I am also waiting, I am fully stock, and both my old and new Nexus 7 got the update to 4.4.2 but my Nexus 5 nothing yet, wonder why ?
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There are just different roll-out schedules. Let me put it this way, I was on custom recovery and rooted, and saw I had 4.4.2 update (was on 4.4). So not wanting to mess anything up I went complete stock, though when I rebooted I saw I no longer had it regardless of pressing the update button a million times. So I just ended up side loading it. The reason why it probably was not there, is probably this:
Why is clearing Google Services Framework data is a bad idea?:
There is a myth that has been around for a few years that clearing data in Google Services Framework will get you the OTA faster. Android Engineer Dan Morrill has taken to reddit to explain why NOT to do this and why the method I've described in this thread is the best way to get your update quickly.
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Doing this changes the primary ID by which Google knows your device. As far as the servers are concerned, the device was basically factory reset. There are many downstream effects of this, but a big one is that this invalidates the tokens used by any app that uses GCM (which is nearly all the Google apps, and a ton of third-party apps.)
How apps react to GCM IDs changing varies by app. With Play Store you have to log out and log back in, I think Gmail usually handles it transparently eventually but won't get new mail notifications for a while, etc. Some apps you may have to clear data on to recover. All apps will simply stop getting GCM push-messages, until they get a new GCM ID; some do this frequently, others rarely, and some apps use the GCM ID as an ID on their own servers (as it is opaque and basically random), so other things besides push messages may not work.
Nothing bursts into flames, but it makes a ton of nuisances on the device, including some that can look pretty mysterious. Your mileage will vary depending on what apps you use.
All of this can be avoided by just doing an 'adb sideload' if you are impatient. -Dan Morrill
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I am assuming it was no longer valid for me because my ID changed when I wiped my phone. So with that being said, your choices are to either wait, or side load.
4.4 as well ..I'll get the update eventually. No rush here.
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From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?
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From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?
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common miss-conception.
sideload is just a different channel to put the damn OTA zip on your phone. there is no higher / lower rate of issues than getting the actual OTA, you will be in the same boat.
Got tired of waiting in Dallas yesterday. I know...patience is a virtue but no a strong point of mine. Wanted to check the camera out so I side loaded both updates early last night.
My N5 has been working like a champ. Camera and speaker are definitely improved!
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From the sheer number of posts showing problems with sideloading, I recommend waiting for the OTA update. Why risk so many issues and buggy software just to get an update a few days earlier?
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There are no problems with sideloading if one hasn't messed with their phone. Issues arise when one tries to sideload the OTA and they have modified files in /system.
I was using 4.4 ( unrooted ) totally original system, and got 4.2.2 update a few hours ago. I'm in Hamilton ON, Canada.
RELEVANT TO US BECAUSE WHEN WE GET THE UPDATE, IT LOCKS THE BOOTLOADER.
IF THEY LOCK IT FOR THE S6 EDGE, THEY'LL LOCK IT FOR THE S6!
DO NOT TAKE THE OTA IF YOU DON'T WANT A LOCKED BOOTLOADER.
Unassuming Galaxy S6 edge users are in for a surprise, as T-Mobile appears to be rolling out a freshly cooked OTA based on Android version 5.1.1 Lollipop for the device. The catch, however, it is so far reported only on the T-Mobile network.
XDA forums user Sunderwear mentioned about the OTA a couple of hours back (at the time of writing this story). Urged by other users of the device, the poster also uploaded a video of his Galaxy S6 edge running the latest firmware. The video can be found at the end of this article.
As noted from the narration, the update also locks the bootloader on the device.
So, how many of you have already received the update? What do you think of it?
Source: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/29/android-5-1-1-ota-being-rolled-out-on-t-mobile-for-the-s6-edge/
Looks like someone in the Edge forum was able to downgrade the bootloader and flash TWRP but still, tread carefully.
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ok I downgraded the Bootloader ONLY and I was able to flash TWRP...dumping a system.img copy..
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Korean variants seem to be getting an app that unlocks the bootloader, I bet we start seeing that for other variants as well (except verizon/att).
This is a good thing, not a bad thing people!
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Honestly I'm caring less and less about roms but I like the option. Here is some possible good news from a trustworthy guy
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Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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Coming from the ROM Flashing mecca of HTC and finding a place in Samsung is.. weird to say the least. I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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I see you edited your signature!
If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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If/when anyone gets this update try to grab the update before taking it. Also, the bootloader Doesn't actually get locked.
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BOOM. Bootloader news is great news
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
Is it possible to do the update if we are rooted? And I mean UPDATE not flash the entire new release.
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Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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This type of thing might happen with a lot of updates. You need to remember the rooting/moding community is very small compared to the people who just use their phone as is. So if anything I think its weird that someone in this community got the update.
Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
ipaq_101 said:
Isn't it odd that just one guy has gotten the update? T-mobile has sold hundreds of thousands of these units and only one guy got an OTA?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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it's a leak...also camera is buggy...not a final version
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Hey I hope it's true, I for one hope it fixes the memory management and battery issues.
According to this guy, it looks like the XDA member was part of a "Soak Test", or he is a guinea pig. Hopefully it doesn't take months to test it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...5-1-1/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Never.... EVER... take anything from that website serious.
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Haha yeah, tech reporters are a bunch of iMorons as it is and love iCrap over everything else. I was shocked that they even knew what xda was.
Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
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Someone has the balls to try it on the non-edge S6?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6-edge/development/5-1-1-blck-tw-t3096994
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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I hope no one tries this. Both devices are TOTALLY different.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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They're really not, actually. I imagine it would boot. My guess is touch screen wouldn't work though.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Yea, I remember reading about the touch screen not working or working in reverse.
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Really? So it might work but register touches opposite of our phone?
nolimit78 said:
I find that there are only minor things I need that require root but I no-longer need the overhaul that I needed with HTC. It's too weird.
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This
Damn I wish this would leak for AT&T. 5.0.1 TW has a bigger memory leak than stock 5.0.1 on my Nexus. This needs to be rolled out ASAP, but I know it won't.
Is there no July update? Thought updates were released on the first monday of the month, but still no update for July
I know tomorrow it is fourth of July and a holiday in the USA but what about today? Everything closed as well?
TMG1961 said:
Is there no July update?
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Maybe there's nothing to update.
NLBeev said:
Maybe there's nothing to update.
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That could also be an option. But none of the supported devices have a July update. So guess that isnt the case.
I think they maybe not working today. Just a few more months and then the monthly wait for a update is over..then no more official updates for the nexus 6
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.... Just a few more months and then the monthly wait for a update is over..then no more official updates for the nexus 6
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Yes. the last update will be in October.
Every update I've compared the new system files with the previous version. Only a few files changed.
No updates ..... it's the start of a quiet period.
Time to give a look to a new device. I am keeping an eye on the Plus One 5.
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Yes. the last update will be in October.
Every update I've compared the new system files with the previous version. Only a few files changed.
No updates ..... it's the start of a quiet period.
Time to give a look to a new device. I am keeping an eye on the Plus One 5.
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I also started to look for a new device, been looking at the LG G6. But got time, my N6 stille works fine.
Most businesses are closed today in the US.
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Most businesses are closed today in the US.
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Are you serious? I doubt most businesses are giving their employees 2 paid days off for Independence Day. Some may be but saying most is quite a stretch.
TMG1961 said:
I also started to look for a new device, been looking at the LG G6. But got time, my N6 stille works fine.
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I sold my Nexus 6 a few days ago. Still a good phone but time has passed it by. Need to move up to a newer, 64 bit device. Waiting to see what my next phone will be. RIP Shamu.
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...But got time, my N6 stille works fine.
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Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.
NLBeev said:
Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.
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No any better stereospeakers yet B)
OP5 is sexy but still not worth
The only disadvantage imho is the soon no longer software support, but I don't really know what it really involves as security patches are not quite safer. (critical breaches will always be updated as XP was with wannacry)
NLBeev said:
Since decryption and debloating it's a very fast phone. Will keep it a while.
The only disadvantage is the round back. On table/desk, input is not easy when the phone is spinning.
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Never had a problem with the round back. Using a case and always lay it on table on its front, since the case is closed no problm with scratches on the screen.
Phone is debloated too. But even without debloating it runs fine and for me fast enough.
Think it is usually about the 5 or 6 th of month released if any.
July update is live now for nexus 6.
Got it! sideloaded ...............okay so far
same bootloader and radio.
just sideloaded the OTA
N6F27H
Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?
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Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?
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Not seeing anything different here.
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Anyone notice anything really different in this release? Or just the security update?
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Not seeing anything different here.
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An update on the new version, my first attempt at flashing N6F27H from the Factory Image (not OTA) ended up with the CPU running at 100% nearly all of the time with no Deep Sleep seen. I just reflashed the Factory Image for N6F27H again and I'll update whether the results are the same or better this time.
Has anyone received this?
Mine updated to B307 this morning
Size around 402MB
but still EMUI 5.0 and Android 7.0
Btw, from Malaysia here
Hi..I don't see the update officially via updates but I do see it via firmware finder ..however when I click download I see 3 files
Update.zip
Public/public_date_public.zip
BTVDL09_hw_spcseas/UPDATE_BTVDL09_hw_spceseas
Do you know if I should select all and download our anyone of the above...I am also from Malaysia
Appreciate your help
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i think you should wait for the official update dude
but if you dont mind void your warranty and know how to install via the firmware finder, then go ahead.
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Has anyone received this?
Mine updated to B307 this morning
Size around 402MB
but still EMUI 5.0 and Android 7.0
Btw, from Malaysia here
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What has changed, btw? Any screenshot?
I received B351 for the W09. Sorry for the screenshot, I had Lux on.
http://i.imgur.com/Yc8qNBn.png
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Screenshot of full about device info.
https://i.imgur.com/cXhuiqd.png
I received the b307 update via ota but it doesnt install properly
edit: reflashed b306 and b307 installed sucessfully via ota. the google patch still seems to be may5
I have BTV-DL09C100B303. Didn't see -B307 on firmware finder. Pretty strange: I'll check again.
BTW the -B303 is stil BlueBorne vulnerable and introduced some annoying bugs.
EDIT: no way still -B303).
EDIT/2: blueborn-rampant-gbye-m3-thanks-fish
I think by now we know about your panic.....go on and change and things are ok. But please stop. I have never heard, never had and probably never will have to deal with Blue-whatsit.
I for one knew beforehand that Huawei are not too keen on updating.
I also would be interested in which file needs to be used from the above....I had the same problem using Firmware Finder....
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I think by now we know about your panic.....go on and change and things are ok. But please stop.
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No quote. Who are you writing to?
EDIT: yes, I guess it's me.
First, I'm not in panic since I'v been waiting for months.
Second, that was the last check before shipping the tablet back, because I like(d) it a lot.
Last firmware check got no news, so I regret to say that it's not my problem any more because I'm not an M3 owner any more. As simple as that.
Of course each one of us is free to make its own choices, I'm not here to complain forever: I acted as a Consumer and the Producer was damaged by its own behaviour.
I'm not a zealot: I'm a second chancer, anyway. So maybe I will be back again with something else.
I hope that for that time, Huawei will have learned the lesson.
No quote because I am referring to the post before mine.....
I fear the harsh reality is that Huawei wont learn any lessons from your postings, no matter how often you point to them.
Anyway, best of luck with your next device.
I forced this update as soon as it popped up on FF today. Comes with November security patch, emui 5.0.1 (can't notice anything new btw), and low resolution power saving mode is still not working, but oh well. The changelog mentions better touchscreen calibration and improved battery life but I can't tell a difference. I'm pretty happy that it got updated, hopefully they'll fix the low res mode for power saving, back on emui 4 it made a big difference in battery life.
This version is not vulnerable to blueborne btw.
The only difference I've noticed from B303 after 5 days is an increase in standby battery drain. Very annoying.
Actually i have the 303 version whit firmware finder and I saw that there is a compatible version of 307 dated 20.10.2017. Are you reecomended to force the update?
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I fear the harsh reality is that Huawei wont learn any lessons from your postings, no matter how often you point to them.
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Well, people complaining in mass with Huawei, or better some americans suing H. for millions after being hacked because of BluBorne... I imagine those things could change Huawei's behaviour.
Anyway, best of luck with your next device.
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Thank you. I will keep an eye on Huawei products, though. By the hardware point of view they are very nice, but this Huawei's attitude of considering software security as "not so important" is anachronistic.
Hi there. I'm from Germany and use a BTV-DL09 with firmeware C100B303.
I would also like to Upgrade to B307. I saw that there are 2 Versions available in Firmeware Finder. Which one should I get? The 2,4GB or 500Mb?
500mb i think is ota, 2,4 gb is a complete rom
What should I use for updating my Mediapad? The full ota or the small one?
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What should I use for updating my Mediapad? The full ota or the small one?
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i used ota
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i used ota
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Did you notice any increase in battery life?