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So i currently have a T-Mobile S4 M919. I also have T-Mobile USA Service.
i want to change it up and buy an active, I was looking at the AT&T variant and the International Model.
I know the ATT one has more development and possible AWS via a thread guide, but it has a locked BL along with no root on the newest update.
The international would have an unlocked BL but development for it seems nonexistent, also no AWS(?).
In my position what should I do? I appreciate any input thanks
JaY iZz BaKk said:
Hey
So i currently have a T-Mobile S4 M919. I also have T-Mobile USA Service.
i want to change it up and buy an active, I was looking at the AT&T variant and the International Model.
I know the ATT one has more development and possible AWS via a thread guide, but it has a locked BL along with no root on the newest update.
The international would have an unlocked BL but development for it seems nonexistent, also no AWS(?).
In my position what should I do? I appreciate any input thanks
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I would go for AWS because when it comes down to it, development<Data Speeds. I don't think its cool to go from LTE speeds to norm speeds unless your area doesn't have it
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Hello everyone, based on extremely poor ATT coverage in my area comparing to T-M I plan to purchase AT&T Note 3 SM-N900A, unlock it and use with T-M SIM card.
Would I face any issues in terms of unlocking and data coverage?
toshik1 said:
Hello everyone, based on extremely poor ATT coverage in my area comparing to T-M I plan to purchase AT&T Note 3 SM-N900A, unlock it and use with T-M SIM card.
Would I face any issues in terms of unlocking and data coverage?
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Soooo.... why would you want to buy a N900A. I feel like we are missing some piece of info. What about getting the N900T and having the best of both worlds. The modem on the N900A is more restricted than the Tmobile version (surprise surprise).
mircury said:
Soooo.... why would you want to buy a N900A. I feel like we are missing some piece of info. What about getting the N900T and having the best of both worlds. The modem on the N900A is more restricted than the Tmobile version (surprise surprise).
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Really? I'm glad I asked prior to spending the $$$
Other than the firmware the phones are identical, correct?
Right now I borrowed Note 2 AT&T SGH-I317 and it seems (to me) to work OK on T-Mobile.
Yes, the Note 2 was one of the last phones before ATT went crazy and started locking down everything. You could enable the AWS bands of tmobile on the ATT note 2. Here is a guide for the N900T if you go that route. Many of us are doing it. You can use it on either carrier. If you are going to use tmobile you might as well use the wifi calling also. It's free and only on the N900T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
mircury said:
Yes, the Note 2 was one of the last phones before ATT went crazy and started locking down everything. You could enable the AWS bands of tmobile on the ATT note 2. Here is a guide for the N900T if you go that route. Many of us are doing it. You can use it on either carrier. If you are going to use tmobile you might as well use the wifi calling also. It's free and only on the N900T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
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Thank you! But the guide is for using T-Moblie phone on AT&T network, I have the opposite.
toshik1 said:
Thank you! But the guide is for using T-Moblie phone on AT&T network, I have the opposite.
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I know. My point is that the N900T works perfectly on ATT and Tmobile. It works on both carriers and is the most up to date. The N900T has had J7 for a week where the ATT model just is now getting J5. The carrier specific features like wifi calling are not on the N900A.
Also if you read in that thread I list the fcc bands that are active on the N900A compared to the N900T. They are more restricted than the Tmobile version.
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I know. My point is that the N900T works perfectly on ATT and Tmobile. It works on both carriers and is the most up to date. The N900T has had J7 for a week where the ATT model just is now getting J5. The carrier specific features like wifi calling are not on the N900A.
Also if you read in that thread I list the fcc bands that are active on the N900A compared to the N900T. They are more restricted than the Tmobile version.
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Ok thanks again, all I need is the best deal on either used or new N900T. I don't see any listed on Amazon and pricegrabber brings up three crazy deals price of $700 with signing up with T-Mobile
toshik1 said:
Ok thanks again, all I need is the best deal on either used or new N900T.
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Yes, you will definitely be happier especially if you are wanting to use it on the T-mobile network.
att sim in n900t? HSPA+<E?
Sorry for barging in just a quick question and this thread seems to be the most logical place to ask. Anyway, I have AT&T and just got the Note 3 n900a. If i got a T-Mobile version n900t and put my AT&T Sim in it if i unlock it, will i be able to use it with AT&T's data like hspa+ and LTE or will i just be limited to EDGE. Only reason i ask is because like you say AT&T is going nuts with locking everything down and Im sure its going to be a pain in the a** for the Devs to unlock the bootloader so we can (when it comes) flash custom recoveries and roms. Just like with my att galaxy s4. I was happily rooted and at the time i didnt flash a rom yet i was waiting to find one i like. (mind you i was on the MDL build) and as forgetful as i am just being stock rooted i never froze the samsung software update and it updated to MF3 build and wasnt able to fash a recovery. so i unrooted, reset flash counter and did a warranty exchange and was lucky to get one on still on the MDL build. the second i got that i rooted flashed CWM recovery and flashed a custom rom so it wouldnt update on me. I just dont want the same situation for when the devs unlock the bootloader and get a flash able recovery so just thinking maybe a tmobile note 3 with my att sim may be the way to go to avoid that. lol Not like the note 3 needs any custom rom with the beast of a phone it is but sometimes i like to switch up and use stock/aosp android.
Thanks and sorry for the paragraph here and my apologies if i asked in the wrong spot,
Dave
ddix585 said:
Sorry for barging in just a quick question and this thread seems to be the most logical place to ask. Anyway, I have AT&T and just got the Note 3 n900a. If i got a T-Mobile version n900t and put my AT&T Sim in it if i unlock it, will i be able to use it with AT&T's data like hspa+ and LTE or will i just be limited to EDGE. Only reason i ask is because like you say AT&T is going nuts with locking everything down and Im sure its going to be a pain in the a** for the Devs to unlock the bootloader so we can (when it comes) flash custom recoveries and roms. Just like with my att galaxy s4. I was happily rooted and at the time i didnt flash a rom yet i was waiting to find one i like. (mind you i was on the MDL build) and as forgetful as i am just being stock rooted i never froze the samsung software update and it updated to MF3 build and wasnt able to fash a recovery. so i unrooted, reset flash counter and did a warranty exchange and was lucky to get one on still on the MDL build. the second i got that i rooted flashed CWM recovery and flashed a custom rom so it wouldnt update on me. I just dont want the same situation for when the devs unlock the bootloader and get a flash able recovery so just thinking maybe a tmobile note 3 with my att sim may be the way to go to avoid that. lol Not like the note 3 needs any custom rom with the beast of a phone it is but sometimes i like to switch up and use stock/aosp android.
Thanks and sorry for the paragraph here and my apologies if i asked in the wrong spot,
Dave
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This thread is huge but hopefully has everything you would want to know on the topic. Look at the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
Does it matter which carrier I bought it from? I understand they all have a place for SIM right?
Republic's moto X cant be used by any other carrier correct? How about Sprint? Is there any unlock process involved? Is that any carrier that makes the unlocking process (if needed) easier?
Please include as much information as possible cause I want to be sure I'll be able to use the phone and know what steps are needed.
Thanks in advance
Brush-N said:
I live in Israel (mostly same systems as Europe) and would like to buy a moto X, I can easily get one, but my question is will it work out of the box in Israel (Just put in the SIM and call)?
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Yes it will work in Israel since it has all required 2G and 3G bands. You can see comparison of different version in the attached file. You should probably get T-mobile version since it is not SIM locked and has an unlockable bootloader.
It's important for you not to buy Sprint a Republic Wireless version 'cause they don't work with GSM carriers.
Any other is compatible with 2G/3G European frequencies. As for LTE I cannot help you as I don't what are the frequencies used by Israelian carriers.
Thank you very much, I found the table really helpful! So basically T-mobile is the best option, while Verison should also be fine. I find Sprint & AT&T ones to be the cheapest on ebay, is there any easy way to SIM unlock them?
What does unlockable bootloader mean? How is it useful?
Lastly to GSM LC, Thanks for clarifying about Republic Wireless. We don't have LTE in Israel yet, but the planned bands are 7 and 3, so I won't get support for them anyway...
1) AT&T version can be unlocked by unlocking services like cellunlocker.net.
2) Unlocked bootloader allows flashing custom ROMs.
3) Regarding LTE bands AT&T version probably supports band 7. It is not mentioned in any official spec/document but several users confirmed its presence in XT1058
I'm also planning to buy a Moto X on cyber monday.. I live in Dubai UAE, usually UK/Euro variants of phones work well here. Should i go for the Developer edition with GSM network or T-Mobile off contract version? I would prefer to buy the T-Mobile or AT n T version as i can customize it unlike the developer edition. Any help would be great Thanks.
Guys, is Verizon Moto X like D4 in terms of global unlocked capability?
I bought a D4 last year and using it on GSM without any problem. Anybody can help me?
Hi everyone,
Im thinking of getting the T-mobile Note 4 because its the most "usable" model since its bootloader is unlocked, it has different roms to choose from and can be used with LTE globally. I know there is an international model (N910f) but it seems it has trouble with LTE in the US.
So the question is, can I use the N910t (T-mobile) with another carrier right out of the box, if unlocked? Meaning the phone never touches a T-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advanced!
It will need to be unlocked, then it should work on most networks. The LTE will Not work on Verizon or sprint though.
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Be careful with the LTE network. If you want to use it internationally you better check the frequency of the local LTE carrier. Most international carriers use a different frequency. Use this page to guide you en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
itrof61 said:
Hi everyone,
Im thinking of getting the T-mobile Note 4 because its the most "usable" model since its bootloader is unlocked, it has different roms to choose from and can be used with LTE globally. I know there is an international model (N910f) but it seems it has trouble with LTE in the US.
So the question is, can I use the N910t (T-mobile) with another carrier right out of the box, if unlocked? Meaning the phone never touches a T-mobile sim card.
Thanks in advanced!
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There is very cool tool to check your phone compability
http://www.willmyphonework.net
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OK guys, somewhat of a newbie, so try and give me a break. I am looking to upgrade to a Galaxy S8 and came across an unlocked T-Mobile S8. Can I flash the AT&T firmware to this phone? If I run the T-Mobile firmware on the AT&T network, I assume I won't get any updates? What about the radios? I know both are GSM networks and with both the AT&T and T-Mobile S8 sharing the same model number, I assume this won't be a problem.
Anyway, any guidance is appreciated.
Thanks!!!
I'm looking for the same answer
I believe if it's unlocked from t-mobile, all you have to do is put your sim in it. Given they are both GSM and all the relevant info is stored on sim card and not the phone
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you will still get updates from t-mobile. i am using a note 4 unlocked from tmobile on at&t for about a year, getting my s8+ tomorrow actually. the only thing you have to do is add at&t apn settings which are easy to find if you google. i would like to know if its possible to flash another carrier and then flash back to the phone's original carrier tho
Im thinking about buying the s8+ verizon phone from samsnug direct as they have a great trade in program currently
my questions are..
Do i have to be on verizon to get updates? Im thinking of taking it to straight talk
Can i flash an unlocked firmware of this and the phone still remains working fine?
DOe sit have bands for tmobile / att ?
They are supposedly the same exact hardware. Some of us flashed the combination firmware to be able to unlock the LTE bands. If you stay on Verizon firmware, you will not get any OTA's. However you can use their update software as well as Samsung smart switch software to do manually updates. Plus you can always download VZW firmware from places like Updato.
gqukyo said:
They are supposedly the same exact hardware. Some of us flashed the combination firmware to be able to unlock the LTE bands. If you stay on Verizon firmware, you will not get any OTA's. However you can use their update software as well as Samsung smart switch software to do manually updates. Plus you can always download VZW firmware from places like Updato.
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I am interested in buying the galaxy s8 plus for verizon as well since i will be getting a good deal but I use and would like to stay using AT&T service.
I know that the verizon model is GSM unlocked and could be used with AT&T. I would need to update the APN's to make everything work correctly.
My concern is if it will pick up all the AT&T bands if the phone even supports all the bands. You stated you flashed the combination firmware to unlock the LTE bands.
Would that be exactly what i would need?
If so do you have a link ?
after posting this question I will be doing a search as well.
TIA.
You should just flash the Att firmware then. Check the switch carrier posts for detailed instructions
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