I have a Verizon moto X DE with TWRP recovery installed. I was wondering is it possible to install safestrap recovery also? Or if I wanted to install safestrap recovery would I have to re wipe and start over?
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Why would you want to install Safestrap Recovery, if you have an unlocked bootloader and TWRP already installed.
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Why would you want to install Safestrap Recovery, if you have an unlocked bootloader and TWRP already installed.
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In order to switch from stock rom to another rom without reloading things.
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Swimboy46163 said:
In order to switch from stock rom to another rom without reloading things.
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Just make a nandroid back up. That's what nandroids are for and it does the same thing as what you're wanting to do.
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Just make a nandroid back up. That's what nandroids are for and it does the same thing as what you're wanting to do.
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Not as quick. You have to load and reload apps.
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Swimboy46163 said:
Not as quick. You have to load and reload apps.
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I don't know what you are referring to by loading and reloading apps, I guess. Here's the procedure for both recoveries for installing and switching between ROMs:
TWRP:
1. Set up Stock OS they way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
3. Perform nandroid backup of Stock ROM.
4. Wipe System/Data
5. Install Custom ROM
6. Boot system and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
7. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
8. Perform nandroid backup of Custom ROM.
Now you can switch between Stock and Custom without having to reload any apps. Once you restore, everything goes back to the way you saved it, apps and all. You can load as many Custom ROMs as you want and just keep them as nandroid backups. Then when you want to switch, you just restore the appropriate nandroid.
Safestrap Recovery:
1. Set up Stock OS the way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into Safestrap
3. Back up Stock (Safe) side
4. Activate Custom side.
5. Create slot for Custom ROM
6. Install Custom ROM
7. Boot System and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
8. Reboot into SafeStrap Recovery
9. Perform nandroid back up of Custom ROM.
You can add different ROMS to each slot, and switch on the fly, but you still have to download apps and set everything up the first time for each ROM. Plus, by creating slots, your are dividing the devices resources such as storage and memory between each slot and the stock side, so less is available.
Keeping nandroid backups allows you to do the same exact thing without keeping a stock ROM and a custom ROM both loaded up on the device at the same time sharing resources.
Safestrap was merely a workaround for an unlockable bootloader, and an ability to quarantine your stock ROM, so if you mess up the custom ROM, you can just switch back to the Stock side. This was necessary, because without an unlocked bootloader, you couldn't always just flash back the factory image. Having the bootloader unlocked and the availability of factory images direct from Motorola eliminates the need for Safestrap.
Believe me, it is much more advantageous to have TWRP and just make nandroid backups, BUT if you insist on using Safestrap, then you will likely need to flash back to stock and lock your bootloader through mfastboot. Then you would treat your Moto X like a consumer version and follow the appropriate instructions in this forum for rooting and installing Safestrap. That's a lot of work and you're giving up the main advantage for having an unlockable bootloader, but that is your choice.
Swimboy46163 said:
Not as quick. You have to load and reload apps.
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Nope. Phone is exactly how it was when you did the backup.
However....is this twrp restore working? I'd be sure of that first. I had to use cwm ...only thing I could get restores to work with.
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I don't know what you are referring to by loading and reloading apps, I guess. Here's the procedure for both recoveries for installing and switching between ROMs:
TWRP:
1. Set up Stock OS they way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
3. Perform nandroid backup of Stock ROM.
4. Wipe System/Data
5. Install Custom ROM
6. Boot system and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
7. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
8. Perform nandroid backup of Custom ROM.
Now you can switch between Stock and Custom without having to reload any apps. Once you restore, everything goes back to the way you saved it, apps and all. You can load as many Custom ROMs as you want and just keep them as nandroid backups. Then when you want to switch, you just restore the appropriate nandroid.
Safestrap Recovery:
1. Set up Stock OS the way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into Safestrap
3. Back up Stock (Safe) side
4. Activate Custom side.
5. Create slot for Custom ROM
6. Install Custom ROM
7. Boot System and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
8. Reboot into SafeStrap Recovery
9. Perform nandroid back up of Custom ROM.
You can add different ROMS to each slot, and switch on the fly, but you still have to download apps and set everything up the first time for each ROM. Plus, by creating slots, your are dividing the devices resources such as storage and memory between each slot and the stock side, so less is available.
Keeping nandroid backups allows you to do the same exact thing without keeping a stock ROM and a custom ROM both loaded up on the device at the same time sharing resources.
Safestrap was merely a workaround for an unlockable bootloader, and an ability to quarantine your stock ROM, so if you mess up the custom ROM, you can just switch back to the Stock side. This was necessary, because without an unlocked bootloader, you couldn't always just flash back the factory image. Having the bootloader unlocked and the availability of factory images direct from Motorola eliminates the need for Safestrap.
Believe me, it is much more advantageous to have TWRP and just make nandroid backups, BUT if you insist on using Safestrap, then you will likely need to flash back to stock and lock your bootloader through mfastboot. Then you would treat your Moto X like a consumer version and follow the appropriate instructions in this forum for rooting and installing Safestrap. That's a lot of work and you're giving up the main advantage for having an unlockable bootloader, but that is your choice.
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How does TWRP back up the downloaded apps, system files, and all other miscellaneous files that's about 8 Gb into a 3 Gb package
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Swimboy46163 said:
How does TWRP back up the downloaded apps, system files, and all other miscellaneous files that's about 8 Gb into a 3 Gb package
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It doesn't back up your sd card. but if you don't wipe the sd card it stays safe when flashing.
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Swimboy46163 said:
How does TWRP back up the downloaded apps, system files, and all other miscellaneous files that's about 8 Gb into a 3 Gb package
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Same way Safe strap does it. It makes a system IMG of the current ROM, apps, and settings and restores it all just how you left it.
I've never seen an 8GB nandroid back up file...they are usually between 1GB and 2GB. And I'm not sure what 3GB package you are talking about...The DE is a 32 GB model, so you have plenty of storage available.
The nandroid backup is 2.6 Gb and the total system is about 8 Gb. And when you do a nandroid back up how does it know not to delete the backup when you wipe the systen
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Same way Safe strap does it. It makes a system IMG of the current ROM, apps, and settings and restores it all just how you left it.
I've never seen an 8GB nandroid back up file...they are usually between 1GB and 2GB. And I'm not sure what 3GB package you are talking about...The DE is a 32 GB model, so you have plenty of storage available.
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The nandroid backup is 2.6 Gb and the total system is about 8 Gb. And when you do a nandroid back up how does it know not to delete the backup when you wipe the system
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I don't know what you are referring to by loading and reloading apps, I guess. Here's the procedure for both recoveries for installing and switching between ROMs:
TWRP:
1. Set up Stock OS they way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
3. Perform nandroid backup of Stock ROM.
4. Wipe System/Data
5. Install Custom ROM
6. Boot system and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
7. Reboot into TWRP Recovery
8. Perform nandroid backup of Custom ROM.
Now you can switch between Stock and Custom without having to reload any apps. Once you restore, everything goes back to the way you saved it, apps and all. You can load as many Custom ROMs as you want and just keep them as nandroid backups. Then when you want to switch, you just restore the appropriate nandroid.
Safestrap Recovery:
1. Set up Stock OS the way you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
2. Reboot into Safestrap
3. Back up Stock (Safe) side
4. Activate Custom side.
5. Create slot for Custom ROM
6. Install Custom ROM
7. Boot System and set up ROM how you like it. Settings, apps, etc.
8. Reboot into SafeStrap Recovery
9. Perform nandroid back up of Custom ROM.
You can add different ROMS to each slot, and switch on the fly, but you still have to download apps and set everything up the first time for each ROM. Plus, by creating slots, your are dividing the devices resources such as storage and memory between each slot and the stock side, so less is available.
Keeping nandroid backups allows you to do the same exact thing without keeping a stock ROM and a custom ROM both loaded up on the device at the same time sharing resources.
Safestrap was merely a workaround for an unlockable bootloader, and an ability to quarantine your stock ROM, so if you mess up the custom ROM, you can just switch back to the Stock side. This was necessary, because without an unlocked bootloader, you couldn't always just flash back the factory image. Having the bootloader unlocked and the availability of factory images direct from Motorola eliminates the need for Safestrap.
Believe me, it is much more advantageous to have TWRP and just make nandroid backups, BUT if you insist on using Safestrap, then you will likely need to flash back to stock and lock your bootloader through mfastboot. Then you would treat your Moto X like a consumer version and follow the appropriate instructions in this forum for rooting and installing Safestrap. That's a lot of work and you're giving up the main advantage for having an unlockable bootloader, but that is your choice.
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So no need for a titanium backup of all my apps and texts or anything?
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Swimboy46163 said:
The nandroid backup is 2.6 Gb and the total system is about 8 Gb. And when you do a nandroid back up how does it know not to delete the backup when you wipe the system
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I have a nandroid backup on my phone right now that is 1.8 GB, but you may have more apps than I do. But that 1.8GB is a total system image. It includes all system files, apps, data, settings.
As far as deleting the nandroid, it is not stored in /system, so wiping that partition will not touch the nandroid backup file. The backup file is stored in the /media portion, same as your pictures, videos, and music files. Unless you choose to wipe Internal Storage in TWRP, you will not delete the nandroid backup file.
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Swimboy46163 said:
So no need for a titanium backup of all my apps and texts or anything?
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The nandroid is basically a photograph of the ROM when you backed it up. Any changes you make after the backup will not be saved. It best to do a backup right before wiping and flashing. Just remember, when you install the new ROM or restore the backup of a different custom ROM, none of that carries over. I back up my texts through the MySMS app, which syncs it accross devices. You can still use titanium back up to restore app data (and ONLY app data...never use it to restore system data) if you're concerned about losing your place in a game, etc... I believe there is also an option in TWRP to selectively restore the data portion of your backup, which would include all downloaded apps and the data for them.
Out of curiosity, is this the first phone you've owned with an unlocked bootloader? (Nexus, OG Droid, etc...)
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I have a nandroid backup on my phone right now that is 1.8 GB, but you may have more apps than I do. But that 1.8GB is a total system image. It includes all system files, apps, data, settings.
As far as deleting the nandroid, it is not stored in /system, so wiping that partition will not touch the nandroid backup file. The backup file is stored in the /media portion, same as your pictures, videos, and music files. Unless you choose to wipe Internal Storage in TWRP, you will not delete the nandroid backup file.
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The nandroid is basically a photograph of the ROM when you backed it up. Any changes you make after the backup will not be saved. It best to do a backup right before wiping and flashing. Just remember, when you install the new ROM or restore the backup of a different custom ROM, none of that carries over. I back up my texts through the MySMS app, which syncs it accross devices. You can still use titanium back up to restore app data (and ONLY app data...never use it to restore system data) if you're concerned about losing your place in a game, etc... I believe there is also an option in TWRP to selectively restore the data portion of your backup, which would include all downloaded apps and the data for them.
Out of curiosity, is this the first phone you've owned with an unlocked bootloader? (Nexus, OG Droid, etc...)
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Yeah. Thanks for the help. Just trying to learn all there is to learn.
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Swimboy46163 said:
Yeah. Thanks for the help. Just trying to learn all there is to learn.
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No problem. I think you'll find this much better than using Safe strap and other workarounds. I've had an OG Droid, a Galaxy Nexus, a Droid RAZR, a Droid RAZR MAXX, a Galaxy S3, and a Note II, so I've got a little experience flashing and rooting on locked and unlocked boot loaders.
I suggest reading as much as you can, then rereading it, and ask questions until you understand. Search the forums first, but never be afraid to ask if you can't find the answer. A lot of times Google is your friend when looking for answers too.
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No problem. I think you'll find this much better than using Safe strap and other workarounds. I've had an OG Droid, a Galaxy Nexus, a Droid RAZR, a Droid RAZR MAXX, a Galaxy S3, and a Note II, so I've got a little experience flashing and rooting on locked and unlocked boot loaders.
I suggest reading as much as you can, then rereading it, and ask questions until you understand. Search the forums first, but never be afraid to ask if you can't find the answer. A lot of times Google is your friend when looking for answers too.
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Btw does mysms have quick reply messages like chomp does? It's not very clear
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Swimboy46163 said:
Btw does mysms have quick reply messages like chomp does? It's not very clear
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Yes. Its called popup notifications in the settings and is turned on by default.
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Yes. Its called popup notifications in the settings and is turned on by default.
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Ok seriously thanks for the mysms suggestion. I've been trying to find a replacement for Google voice forever. I hate google voice lol
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Swimboy46163 said:
Ok seriously thanks for the mysms suggestion. I've been trying to find a replacement for Google voice forever. I hate google voice lol
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No problem.
Related
I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it
I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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This :good:
can i restore a nandroid backup if i flash some other rom??
app data will also be restored i.e games levels etc..??
Nandroide is a image/snapshot that is stored on your SD card, that you always can flash back to later, after you e.g. have flashed another ROM.
this means i will be back on older rom..for backing data of apps use titanium backup??
There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
Cheers!!!
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There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
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thanks.got it now.wish i asked it earlier before losing data :-(
mandeep294 said:
thanks.got it now.wish i asked it earlier before losing data :-(
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What do you mean by "before losing data"? Did you do nandroid? If so, you still have everything on you.
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What do you mean by "before losing data"? Did you do nandroid? If so, you still have everything on you.
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no didn't for my first flash
mandeep294 said:
no didn't for my first flash
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Oh oh... Thats not a good news.
Well, just in case, take a look at this thread... it has got a collection of Factory shipped ROMs, may be your version of IS is one of them and so if you want to go Stock, you can probably get back to Stock without not much of hassle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922
And also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287111
Take a look at this link also, it has got a plenty of information about pretty much everything and also as per OP, its been updated weekly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136463
Besides, I don't think there are much complications if you don't have Nandroid. Nandroid is basically a tool to go back to stock mostly in case of warranty repairs, but if your phone is not crapping out on you, as long as it works, you don't probably need Stock.
Hope you will not run into too many troubles.
Good Luck
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already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
mandeep294 said:
already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
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After restore from nandroid, you do not need to restore apps from titanium.
It will keep a snapshot of your current rom, hence include your apps. It didn't include radio though, it is separate entity.
Your backup through titanium is save in sd card though.
creativedevil said:
There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
Cheers!!!
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I think this answers my question: I backed up my stock ROM before I S-OFF and rooted so, if I needed to go back to stock ROM for say warrenty issues, I should just be able to restore this backup, rather than have to download and flash a stock RUU? This will put me back to S-ON and unrooted? If so, pretty glad I did that
mandeep294 said:
already downloaded d stock one.actually quite easy to get back to stock..
one more q after i restored from nandroid, do i still need to resore apps from titanium??
and do i need to backup apps on sd card as card remains untouched during flash?
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No, if u restore it from nandroid, you dont have to restore any app data. Thats the benefit of nandroid. Its got everything as is including the background, the way you had it set up.
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I think this answers my question: I backed up my stock ROM before I S-OFF and rooted so, if I needed to go back to stock ROM for say warrenty issues, I should just be able to restore this backup, rather than have to download and flash a stock RUU? This will put me back to S-ON and unrooted? If so, pretty glad I did that
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Wait, how did u manage a backup before s-off?
The steps are,
Get s-off
Get root access
Install clockworkmod or any other recovery program
Boot into recovery
Backup ur current rom - aka nandroid
Enjoy flashing - for some reason if flashing goes bad, you will be safe and can restore and bring back ur phone to life with nandroid
To get back s-on for warranty repair, nandroid wont help. There are a couple of threads which explains how to do so. Check the links i have posted in one of my previous comments.
Good luck.
Cheers!!!
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Wait, how did u manage a backup before s-off?
The steps are,
Get s-off
Get root access
Install clockworkmod or any other recovery program
Boot into recovery
Backup ur current rom - aka nandroid
Enjoy flashing - for some reason if flashing goes bad, you will be safe and can restore and bring back ur phone to life with nandroid
To get back s-on for warranty repair, nandroid wont help. There are a couple of threads which explains how to do so. Check the links i have posted in one of my previous comments.
Good luck.
Cheers!!!
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Bloody good point! Getting way too confused with alot of this...need to take a break Don't need to go back to S-ON anyways, but have read around that some people are having problems showing S-ON once they have flashed back to stock RUU.
Thanks for putting me straight
creativedevil said:
There are 2 types of backups.
Nandroid is created using CWM recovery, which is an image file of everything you have got on ur phone. This backup is useful if u flashed another rom and for some reason you want to go back to original/stock rom. This is like recovery disc for ur windows computer, used for to go back to factory settings. Dont ever flash something else on ur phone without creating a nandroid backup. This is also useful in case of warranty repairs.
Second is app and data backup through titanium or such applications. This is more used if you want to backup all the apps u have installed on ur phone, so that for example, i have 200 + apps installed, i flash 3 different roms in 1 week, i dont want to spend time keep installing those apps again and again each time i flash a different rom, i will use titanium to backup all those apps n just restore those apps once i flash a new rom.
Hope this clears any doubts.
Cheers!!!
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Where is the thanks-button?
Just to clarify it more in a question.
Nandroid takes an image of your active OS with all the programs/settings/phonebook/calendar/facebookcontactlinks saved into it. So if you restore that image, your phone is back like nothing happened with all your hours of settings and apps included at point of image taking? Not even a factory reset?
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Where is the thanks-button?
Just to clarify it more in a question.
Nandroid takes an image of your active OS with all the programs/settings/phonebook/calendar/facebookcontactlinks saved into it. So if you restore that image, your phone is back like nothing happened with all your hours of settings and apps included at point of image taking? Not even a factory reset?
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Thanks button is right below my post. Lol.
Anyways, answer to your question is, yes, it does back up everything as you have set on your phone.
It includes things like your wallpaper, your wireless passwords, your images and settings in camera, your games and game progress data, your contacts, your messages, even your emails, your notes... anything and everything you can think of, which is done by you on your phone, nandroid will create an image of everything as of the moment you create a backup.
For example, if you created a backup on 1st, then your flashed another rom, you didn't like the custom rom you flashed, so now you want to go back to the factory rom, you restore your phone from nandroid on the 10th, once the restoration is finished, you will be same as it is as you were on the 1st when you created a backup.
Hope this clears out any of the doubts.
Nandroid Backup is really powerful.
Good Luck.
Cheers!!!
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VaderXI said:
Bloody good point! Getting way too confused with alot of this...need to take a break Don't need to go back to S-ON anyways, but have read around that some people are having problems showing S-ON once they have flashed back to stock RUU.
Thanks for putting me straight
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Thing is, you will never need to go back to S-On until and unless your phone is legitimately broken and you have warranty and needed it fixed.
If everything is running smooth without any hiccups, you are better off with S-Off forever as long as you use your phone.
But, because you are now S-Off, first thing you want to do is to have a nandroid, which is your savior at the end.
So, my 2 cents worth suggestion would be, get S-Off, get root access, install CWM, boot into CWM and create a nandroid. Mount your SD Card, go to /ClockworkMod folder and copy that backup file from your SD Card to somewhere safe, probably on your computer. Once you did this much, do whatever you want to do with your phone. You can flash any ROM you want... Play with it... etc...
Good Luck
Cheers!!!
going back to stock dosent do s-on back
creativedevil said:
Thanks button is right below my post. Lol.
Anyways, answer to your question is, yes, it does back up everything as you have set on your phone.
It includes things like your wallpaper, your wireless passwords, your images and settings in camera, your games and game progress data, your contacts, your messages, even your emails, your notes... anything and everything you can think of, which is done by you on your phone, nandroid will create an image of everything as of the moment you create a backup.
For example, if you created a backup on 1st, then your flashed another rom, you didn't like the custom rom you flashed, so now you want to go back to the factory rom, you restore your phone from nandroid on the 10th, once the restoration is finished, you will be same as it is as you were on the 1st when you created a backup.
Hope this clears out any of the doubts.
Nandroid Backup is really powerful.
Good Luck.
Cheers!!!
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Thing is, you will never need to go back to S-On until and unless your phone is legitimately broken and you have warranty and needed it fixed.
If everything is running smooth without any hiccups, you are better off with S-Off forever as long as you use your phone.
But, because you are now S-Off, first thing you want to do is to have a nandroid, which is your savior at the end.
So, my 2 cents worth suggestion would be, get S-Off, get root access, install CWM, boot into CWM and create a nandroid. Mount your SD Card, go to /ClockworkMod folder and copy that backup file from your SD Card to somewhere safe, probably on your computer. Once you did this much, do whatever you want to do with your phone. You can flash any ROM you want... Play with it... etc...
Good Luck
Cheers!!!
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Yup, had all this for a while now, just had that original question about restoring a backup and thinking it would put me back to S-ON, not that I need to or have any intentions to do so.
mandeep294 said:
going back to stock dosent do s-on back
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You got it mate, no it doesn't bring S-ON back. Its a different procedure all together.
Read my other posts in this forum and you will know what I mean.
Cheers!!!
So in my infinite wisdom I deleted com.android.providers.media using titanium backup. I thought I had backed the file up but apparently I didn't. Either that or it didn't actually back the file up. Either way elements of my phone are now totally burned as you would imagine. No gallery, no music in my music player, and no ringtones. So my question is even if I do a factory reset will that help? Yes this was the stock ROM yes I tried installing a stock image on top of the ROM but the installation froze and I had to reboot and restore my nan droid. No I didn't have a nandroid of before I started dicking around. And finally yes I am a complete idiot. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Actually if some one would just be willing to use titanium backup to backup that file then post it here I could probably just restore it? Hope some one can help
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
Sweet thanks man. So would u say that I should safely be able to install over the stock ROM? Or should I wipe then install? Also since these are stock I can install them to ROM slot stock right?
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
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Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
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Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
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That's where I'm at. On my stock rom, /system/etc/safestrap was added, logwrapper was modified to execute 2nd-init. AFAIK, that's all that was added. I'm so used to the Defy bootstrap method that I'm having a hard time getting used to SS - Defy BS was clearly laid out on what was executed and when that was done -- I've even looked at the SS source and its scripts and still can figure out what's the first script called by the 2nd-init loader....makes me feel super noob .
Well supposedly hash code said that after every restore and flash to the safe slot (stock) safe strap will reinstall itself on /system so if that's the case restoring any backup to that safe slot should be OK. But if that were the case no one would be able to brick. And I've seen people brick with and lose safestrap, and have to use RSD. Which is the road I don't want to have to go down. Really wish I had a definite answer because it seems like it should work but I don't want to do it unless some one who knows more about this than me confirms it.
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I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Philipp_94 said:
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Dirty vs Clean install
sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.
My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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sauprankul said:
Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.
My phone's vibrate does not work anymore, and I believe it to be a hardware defect.
Is there any easy way to backup my data AND reset my phone back to factory settings? I have xnote 4.3 dual booting next to the stock 4.3 using safestrap.
No, I have not tripped the warranty void flag.
Your in Development thread. This should be in Q&A
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DrShenanigan said:
My phone's vibrate does not work anymore, and I believe it to be a hardware defect.
Is there any easy way to backup my data AND reset my phone back to factory settings? I have xnote 4.3 dual booting next to the stock 4.3 using safestrap.
No, I have not tripped the warranty void flag.
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You have four options:
1. Use safestrap to back up "data" only. And that only works if you're going to be using the same rom after factory resetting your phone.
2. Titanium back up app. Backs up everything you have. Once you're done your factory reset, restore. This might cause some issues if you restore the apps with their data. Try restoring apps only.
3. Helium app. It does the same thing titanium does, but with a very little chance of issues and it's easier to use.
4. Ask the mods to move your thread to where it belongs, because this is for the big guys only (developers....). lol
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K-alz said:
You have four options:
1. Use safestrap to back up "data" only. And that only works if you're going to be using the same rom after factory resetting your phone.
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Not even the same version ROM. I've backed up 4.4.2 data and restored it to Note 4 Evolution and to 4.4.4 stock.
2. Titanium back up app. Backs up everything you have. Once you're done your factory reset, restore. This might cause some issues if you restore the apps with their data. Try restoring apps only.
3. Helium app. It does the same thing titanium does, but with a very little chance of issues and it's easier to use.
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Good choices if you don't have SS, but a SS data backup does everything in one shot, and with 4.3, installing SS (root, install Busybox [very important, or you'll drive yourself crazy], install SS) is kind of trivial. I spent last week on a new hobby - bricking my phone. (Not intentionally, but I bricked it about a dozen times playing with ROMS.) Back to stock rooted 4.4.2, Busybox, SS, restore data, wash, rinse, repeat.
BTW, make one system backup also. Then you don't have to Odin back to stock. (And keep your backups on a computer and, if you have toe space, on a cloud account. "Too many backups" is words that have no meaning.
Thank you Hashcode. I wish you were still able to keep SS updated. I'm on 4.4.2 because it's too much hassle to flash a 4.4.2 kernel, back up my data and flash a 4.4.4 kernel every time I think I should do a fresh backup.
I dun goofed.
I flashed the stock mj5 rom on top of safestrap, and checked "NAND Delete All" in odin thinking that it would delete all my apps like in itunes.
That was not the case, and my phone will no longer boot. How can I get safestrap removed from my phone while also allowing my phone to boot again?