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I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
LukeSP said:
I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
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Its up to you. I have it OC. Firstly, Overclocking doesnt mean that the processor is going to run at 1.2Ghz all the time. On the contrary, you can govern the speed of your processor and it runs to 1.2Ghz only when it needs to. For example, after using Voltage tool, use SetCpu and there you can set the mode to conservative or on-demand. Go to Info tab and there you can see for how long certain frequency/CPU speed was used and you will see different values are used, not just 1.2Ghz.
As for the safety part, Putting a custom ROM, Rooting etc is already the way your phone is not supposed to be used, risking the life and warranty.
So, it depends how you look at it. I recommend it.
Essence is its up to you and your choice to take the risk involved .
jje
Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
thebazman said:
theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
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So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
K to the question.
It is relative "safe" if you know how to do it, but not much point of doing it.
I used to have it Overclocked but saw only the slightest difference.
I think you better off with what you are on mate.
Unless you are bored want to try it out
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So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
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if you say theres no difference then fine. ive just explained why you can overclock a pc cpu.
a mobile phone processor and its cooling system is different dont you think?
well if someone says dont overclock your pc cause theres no need, would you follow that instruction ?
regards
btw im not saying your better of overclocking or not, its up to the individual to research or read im just pointing out theres a big difference from pc cpu and phone cpu
It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
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It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
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you keep talking as if iv said ive overclocked my phone , i havnt
i just gave a pov on the differences thats all
regards
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
How to OC SGS on Darky's ROM 9.1 with SO Kernel?
Is there any tutorial? Anybody can explain me how to OC to 1.2Ghz?
You can use Galaxy tuner app from market
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Overclocking always has risks, except on platforms designed to accommodate it. Don't overclock your phone if you rely on it for everyday use.
I have my phone at 1.3ghz for everyday use. No lagfix, its buttery smooth! I'll never go back.
I don't think its safe
Searching Google for other peoples opinion on this. I have over clocked at times and the difference is small unless you are looking at benchmarks.
I think what people don't realize is that each cpu has an average life span at its given clock speed. When you over clock i can say 100% for certain you are decreasing its life.
The decrease may be so small that the phone is going to be outdated before it dies or it could be great enough that one day in 3 months time your phone just dies and there is not really any way of knowing for sure.
So id say if you are going to over clock just be aware of that as a lot of people seam to think as long as you use profiles and don't let it get over a certain temp its doing no damage =P
martan1981 said:
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
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strange. I have played DD1 & DD2, with standard 1GHz without any problems.
I'm on insanity cm with glitch kernel, @1.4Ghz for everyday use, very smooth, web pages load in a flash, the time it spends at that frequency is tiny, if I was gaming a guide amount I would probably go down to 1.2Ghz to be safe as it would probably warm up a bit, but I monitor everything carefully, time in state, temp, etc........to me it is worth it, but of course there is a risk, but my contract is 2 years, so phone only has to last that, and if it does fry, how are samsung going to know? They will just replace motherboard, and in any event I'm kind of old fashioned, I take responsibility for my mistakes! Do it and enjoy, or don't and forever wonder!
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Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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yeah i agree,i don c the sense of oc,if u c the current market there r phones wiv 1.5ghz,3d chips an all those high fiv hardware.even a 2ghz dual-core is abt to come.the company has given sgs 1ghz ,but neva said its cool to oc it...i had tried oc once but frankly i dint notice any diff..but its as per personnel wish ,if u wanna oc then its right for u....
Its totally safe as long as you don't be ridiculous about it....I.e most people make kernels capable of oc to 1.7ghz but that's just stupid because you'll fry your processor, I'd say Max....1.5ghz.....oh and btw it eats your battery so I suppose theirs good and bad sides to it
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Hi!
I've struggled with my Incredible S for a long while now. Asked questions here and so on but haven't really got any answers.
Things went something like this: My mate rooted his and my IncS same time with Revolutionary. We both installed ARHD and overcloked to 1920mhz just for the lulz. Everything went just fine for a while for both of us, but then I decided to restore my apps sms etc from the stock rom with MyBackup (or what ever its called). Restore failed at some point and I needed to flash ARHD again.
Ever since my CPU hasn't been able to reach 1920mhz or anywhere close ever again. I've been flashing dozens for ROMs now and only few of them could be O/C to 1600mhz. Some freeze at 1152mhz instantly, others can be stable for few minutes and then crash.
My mate is running CM7 with enki-v0 kernel at max O/C without any problem. I tried CM7. It started to become unstable with default O/C after few days and I had to siwtch back to some Sense Rom that worked at normal O/C.
Why some kernels (forexmpl Quattro beta 6) allow me to O/C at 1.6Ghz and others freeze just at 1.1Ghz? (Affinity,Unity,Niks trinity, Quattro betas 7- Rc3)
And why my CPU can't reach the 1.9Ghz anymore? Could I **** something up and the CPU is broken now or is there something wrong with my rooting?
TL;DR Only few Roms and kernels allow O/C and with them its a pain in the ass cuz of unstability, why?
- And I'm not looking for solutions like "Flash to stock". I know how to get it stable, but then again 1Ghz stock ain't that cool.
How are you overclocking? I've never used CM7 before, but I do use SetCPU. Every time you flash a ROM you need to go into SetCPU and Device Selection and then Autodetect Speeds Recommended. Either that or you can try selecting Show Other Frequency Sets and pick your processor from there.
Basically the only thing I can think of is that your processor is not being recognised correctly.
BTW When you say "Everything went just fine for a while" how long is a 'while'? The only reason I ask is, how sure are you that running your processor smoothly at 1920mhz for that period wasn't just a fluke, and your phone (for whatever reason) cannot normally run at that speed? From what I understand, even phones of the same model can differ as to the speeds at which they can be overclocked. Maybe you just got lucky the first time, and now that lucks run out?
Dont you think that 1.9 ghz is a bit dumb... You might (have) damage(d) your cpu by doing that. If i would oc my 3ghz pc to 5ghz without cooling modification i would fry it in half an hour.
I mean cmmon use your brain. Oc it to smth logical like 30% (1.3 ghz) and you will not have such problems .... Sorry, but that just sounded plain stupid to me
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CyanideJack said:
How are you overclocking? I've never used CM7 before, but I do use SetCPU. Every time you flash a ROM you need to go into SetCPU and Device Selection and then Autodetect Speeds Recommended. Either that or you can try selecting Show Other Frequency Sets and pick your processor from there.
Basically the only thing I can think of is that your processor is not being recognised correctly.
BTW When you say "Everything went just fine for a while" how long is a 'while'? The only reason I ask is, how sure are you that running your processor smoothly at 1920mhz for that period wasn't just a fluke, and your phone (for whatever reason) cannot normally run at that speed? From what I understand, even phones of the same model can differ as to the speeds at which they can be overclocked. Maybe you just got lucky the first time, and now that lucks run out?
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I use SetCpu and every time it recognizes automaticly some speeds and I use them. The manual setup is bit beyond my knowledge.
The while was something like 3 days or so. Hard to remember. But still wayy more than like few minutes. I will try to set SetCPU manually, thx!
Psyloid said:
Dont you think that 1.9 ghz is a bit dumb... You might (have) damage(d) your cpu by doing that. If i would oc my 3ghz pc to 5ghz without cooling modification i would fry it in half an hour.
I mean cmmon use your brain. Oc it to smth logical like 30% (1.3 ghz) and you will not have such problems .... Sorry, but that just sounded plain stupid to me
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I know 1.9ghz is dumb. I used it back then only in short bursts. Usually scaling "interactive" between 245mhz - 1.5Ghz. Now even that is too much for most kernels. I thought that the freeze is caused by the CPU protecting itself from getting damaged or something, but not sure.
Still if the CPU was damaged, why would Quattro beta 6 kernel run at 1.6ghz without overheat or anything and RC3 kernel freezes at 1.1Ghz when try to load something more than homescreen..
I would use beta 6 kernel for quattro, but it does not support wifi in RC3.. Virtuous team made some changes to kernel at beta 7 and I would love to know what changes..
inSaN1Ty_X said:
I use SetCpu and every time it recognizes automaticly some speeds and I use them. The manual setup is bit beyond my knowledge.
The while was something like 3 days or so. Hard to remember. But still wayy more than like few minutes. I will try to set SetCPU manually, thx!
I know 1.9ghz is dumb. I used it back then only in short bursts. Usually scaling "interactive" between 245mhz - 1.5Ghz. Now even that is too much for most kernels. I thought that the freeze is caused by the CPU protecting itself from getting damaged or something, but not sure.
Still if the CPU was damaged, why would Quattro beta 6 kernel run at 1.6ghz without overheat or anything and RC3 kernel freezes at 1.1Ghz when try to load something more than homescreen..
I would use beta 6 kernel for quattro, but it does not support wifi in RC3.. Virtuous team made some changes to kernel at beta 7 and I would love to know what changes..
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have a look at the changelog and the source code, both in the thread.
Nonverbose said:
have a look at the changelog and the source code, both in the thread.
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From the source code I don't understand a single thing
and...
"New kernel V5 (new acpu table, updated GPU drivers)"
What is acpu table? GPU thing I get, but hardly it can prevent from O/C?
hey everybode!
i wanted to know i have rocket rom and i want to use setcpu to overclock my kernel
and sebastian is max to 1400 is thers good kernel that i can play with it till 1700mghz or 1900?
but it need to be stable
Abyss goes to 1700. My CPU can't take it, sadly
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but it need to be stable
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The stability is dependant on your hardware; some chips can only overclock to 1500Mhz and some can overclock all the way to 1900Mhz. It is not something the kernel has a say over.
Don't all of the notes have the same cpu? Why can some be overclocked and others not?
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kkg720 said:
Don't all of the notes have the same cpu? Why can some be overclocked and others not?
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They all can be overclocked, but how much is a different thing altogether. It's quite simple really, not every chip manufactured is of equal quality; some chips have more imperfections. The more imperfections the less it can be overclocked before it becomes unstable. It's the same thing as on PCs, too.
Stable is it when you do nothing and use it in originally form. Overcklocking need more Power more power is less time you enjoj your note!
Generally these chips are made to tolerate a certain speed, and because of variability, the manufacturer drops the speed tolerance to ensure overall quality. Some will still be able to manage 1500, 1700, or even 1900 (although rarely, I'd say). Just about all of them tolerate 1400, so very few are defective at the stated tolerance. With 5 million, you will get a few, however.
This is one of those rare occasions when statistics have a benefit in the real world!
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Generally these chips are made to tolerate a certain speed, and because of variability, the manufacturer drops the speed tolerance to ensure overall quality. Some will still be able to manage 1500, 1700, or even 1900 (although rarely, I'd say). Just about all of them tolerate 1400, so very few are defective at the stated tolerance. With 5 million, you will get a few, however.
This is one of those rare occasions when statistics have a benefit in the real world!
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I will keep mine at stock speeds because ignorance is bliss
bubu23 said:
hey everybode!
i wanted to know i have rocket rom and i want to use setcpu to overclock my kernel
and sebastian is max to 1400 is thers good kernel that i can play with it till 1700mghz or 1900?
but it need to be stable
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There are many out there that will let you overclock. Search the Android development forum.
Like most, I have flashed heaps of times, probably at least four or five times a week when I first got this wonderful Note, but in the last month or so have only been tempted to stray three or four times. Personally Franco 6 is best for me, because I favour battery life and stability rather than overclocking (1400MHz is not bad as a standard!!)
I would encourage you to try a few for a few days, as long as you backup often you should have a great experience!
Are all kernels capable of overclocking?
Is there one that overclocks the best?
How do you tell how high you can go?
Do you jusy keep overclocking until the NOte stops working?
If so, there must be a fine line.
jeffs99 said:
Are all kernels capable of overclocking?
Is there one that overclocks the best?
How do you tell how high you can go?
Do you jusy keep overclocking until the NOte stops working?
If so, there must be a fine line.
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Stock kernel isn't capable of overclocking.
One way to tell is to download things like SetCPU which detects the range of the clockspeed. Another way is to simply read the description of the kernel thread.
How high your phone can go is an individual thing. You need to overclock in slight increments (say 50mhz at a time) and run a stability test to see if the phone crashes or not.
You DO NOT pull the slider all the way to 1.9 ghz and "see" if anything happens. If you fry your CPU, do not come to us for help.
This is why I don't like overclocking, it's a waste of time to run the stability tests, etc.
In summary, you need to raise it a little bit, and run stability tests and repeat the process until your phone crashes. At that point, you'd know the last safe-stable clockspeed that your CPU can take.
PoisonWolf said:
Stock kernel isn't capable of overclocking.
One way to tell is to download things like SetCPU which detects the range of the clockspeed. Another way is to simply read the description of the kernel thread.
How high your phone can go is an individual thing. You need to overclock in slight increments (say 50mhz at a time) and run a stability test to see if the phone crashes or not.
You DO NOT pull the slider all the way to 1.9 ghz and "see" if anything happens. If you fry your CPU, do not come to us for help.
This is why I don't like overclocking, it's a waste of time to run the stability tests, etc.
In summary, you need to raise it a little bit, and run stability tests and repeat the process until your phone crashes. At that point, you'd know the last safe-stable clockspeed that your CPU can take.
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Thanks!
What do you recommend for a good stability test?
I'm on franco.kernel v10 and OC to 1600 using Tegrak. Tegrak runs the stability tests automatically and reverts to stock 1400 if unstable or a reboot occurs.
I tried 1700 but Note rebooted after about 2 minutes. Booted right back up at 1400 with no problems. Re-set to 1600 and running smoothly.
kraz
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Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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ctcx said:
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
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1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
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Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably
Hello people! I just succeded with rooting my LG Optimus 4X HD :victory: And the reason I did that was to increase the performance on my phone, but I couldn't find any good apps for that. I want suggestions about apps that can overclock EVERY CORE and not just a single one, please respond as soon as possible
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Hello people! I just succeded with rooting my LG Optimus 4X HD :victory: And the reason I did that was to increase the performance on my phone, but I couldn't find any good apps for that. I want suggestions about apps that can overclock EVERY CORE and not just a single one, please respond as soon as possible
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have u done any overclocking in your whole life ? ...
you cant overclock from settings only one core. to overclock only one core u have to do a surgery to the cpu chip........
u cant overlock if the kernel does not support it. stock rom limit is 1500
kessaras said:
have u done any overclocking in your whole life ? ...
you cant overclock from settings only one core. to overclock only one core u have to do a surgery to the cpu chip........
u cant overlock if the kernel does not support it. stock rom limit is 1500
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Dude I just rooted my phone like 2 days ago so don't excpect me to be a pro at these stuff xD (I am a noob) But you didn't really answer my question tho :s
First,You need to install a kernel that supports overclocking, and after that you can use app like trickstermod or tegra overclock. But i would strongly suggest you to read more about rom,kernel,recovery etc. before asking such questions.
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Dude I just rooted my phone like 2 days ago so don't excpect me to be a pro at these stuff xD (I am a noob) But you didn't really answer my question tho :s
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the phone doesnt have to do anything with the procedure u can overclock anything. from just a coffee machine to a kitchen , from a pc to a phone !! if a cpu has more than one core, u cant just overclock only one of them. I answered i told u the limit of the stock rom and kernel is 1500. u cant overclock. u must have a custom kernel that can support overclocking.
that means u need to unlock bootloader and flash at least a custom kernel if not a whole rom.
<<EDIT>> and just for the knowledge ! take for example samsung s3. it has a lower cpu frequency but the phone is little faster than our optimus. overclocking isnt only about rising the frequency. u can also overclock by slightly giving more voltage and faster correspondence. u have to read a lot to understand how it works. for example a mistake can make u have a slow 1700 cpu but a fast 1200 cpu. read read read read
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the phone doesnt have to do anything with the procedure u can overclock anything. from just a coffee machine to a kitchen , from a pc to a phone !! if a cpu has more than one core, u cant just overclock only one of them. I answered i told u the limit of the stock rom and kernel is 1500. u cant overclock. u must have a custom kernel that can support overclocking.
that means u need to unlock bootloader and flash at least a custom kernel if not a whole rom.
<<EDIT>> and just for the knowledge ! take for example samsung s3. it has a lower cpu frequency but the phone is little faster than our optimus. overclocking isnt only about rising the frequency. u can also overclock by slightly giving more voltage and faster correspondence. u have to read a lot to understand how it works. for example a mistake can make u have a slow 1700 cpu but a fast 1200 cpu. read read read read
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I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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Buy tegra overclock from playstore.
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I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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set governor to performance, set cpuquiet to userspace. you need trickstermod app & custom kernel in order to tune this.
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I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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And watch your battery drain in under an hour.
What have you been doing to actually have a point that you have thought a quad core 1.5ghz phone needs overclocking?
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AbdulTheInsane said:
I get it now, but I think I asked the question in a wrong way so let me tell you again how I was ACTUALLY thinking. What I want is to enable EVERY single core and make them have 1.5 GHz speed. How can I do that?
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your cores are already at 1500. to set a perfomance governor to make them run permanently at 1500 will cause u a huge battery drain and cpu overheat. when u will go play a game the heat will enable automatically the cpu to rest so u will have actually around 1000 mhz speed. the cpu HAS to rest. the phones dont have many big fans inside to cool the board and the cpu. thats why people prefer ondemand governor usually. the cpu rests until the 1st core go to 90% usage or more and then the other cores are enabled too. when the cpu usage go below 90% one core is working again and when there isnt any need for cpu usage , the core goes down to 102 mhz.
overclocking
before you get your phone overclocked you should but in consideration that you may break your phone..over heating .... battery consumption.. don't look for performance alone >> you cant get performance with out battery drain or over heating >> just thing before you do that
You should look at how often cores 3&4 are even active. It's very rarely on my Nexus
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ah c'mon he cant destroy the phone even if he wanted to. its not like he has the knowledge to decompile the kernel , change the proccessor limit to over 1700 and recompile it. so his limit is 1700 of iodak and werewolf and mokee. the thing is to understand how overclock works. he will figure it out eventually.
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ah c'mon he cant destroy the phone even if he wanted to. its not like he has the knowledge to decompile the kernel , change the proccessor limit to over 1700 and recompile it. so his limit is 1700 of iodak and werewolf and mokee. the thing is to understand how overclock works. he will figure it out eventually.
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LOL... How can we decomplie the kernel and recompile that?
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Yeah, I think the max over clock for p880 only reach 1700. Or am I wrong?
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momo95 said:
Yeah, I think the max over clock for p880 only reach 1700. Or am I wrong?
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for the developers that know what to do , max for our phone is 1700. originally the safe overclocking at any cpu since many many years , is around 20%. after that it needs cooler. the better the cooler the more u can overclock.
Hi, trickster show me that my phone don't use the 1700 MHz. Y?
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Probably it is not overclocked.
The stock higher operating frequency of p880 is 1500 MHz, and that is what your trickster diagram is showing.
So. Either your phone is notoverclocked, or in whatever kernel you are using maximum frequency is set to 1500 MHz.
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Ehm, i have iodak v08 cm10.1.3 and cwm6.0.4.4
I'll check how to overclock the CPU.
May some one also look for a how-to if i don't find anything for overclocking my CPU
Thanks and kind regards
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I've found it. Can some one explain to me how to fit this things?
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