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Hello everyone,
I am a newcomer to the O2X world. My previous device was an Xperia X10 and having that device for a long time it was fairly easy to follow the forums and know what route to go, which rom to get or kernel, etc.. Now being introduced to Rom Manager, and this phenomenal (to me) device its like starting all over again. I flashed to CM7.1 nightly (yesterday) and the device just only seems to get better and better, although being honest, I truly loved the Music App 2.2.2 had, as well as the camera. I tinkered around a little to get those to work without any success yet.
In any event, my real question is about the kernels... running CM7.1 nightly, what is a recommended Kernel to switch to? I am not looking to overclock the device as I feel it just isn't necessary (used to the Xperia), so Im just looking to get any fixes, tweaks, been hearing about Voodoo Sound etc to just solidify the phone.. might someone be able to point me in the right direction? I had been reading the forums for days now since I got the device but still haven't found what route to go as all the features are completely new to me.
Any help would much much be appreciated! and I must add, there are mixed reviews on the O2X but my take thus far, Im completely blown away.
vorkkernel and swiftextreme
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059910 - vork
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325183 - swiftextreme
vork is good in ironing out cm and showing off large score in tests like(quantrant etc.) while
swiftextreme is very good on batterylife
but I still prefer stock cm kernel
welcome to the o2x forums btw
mvsn said:
Hello everyone,
In any event, my real question is about the kernels... running CM7.1 nightly, what is a recommended Kernel to switch to? I am not looking to overclock the device as I feel it just isn't necessary (used to the Xperia), so Im just looking to get any fixes, tweaks, been hearing about Voodoo Sound etc to just solidify the phone.. might someone be able to point me in the right direction? I had been reading the forums for days now since I got the device but still haven't found what route to go as all the features are completely new to me.
Any help would much much be appreciated! and I must add, there are mixed reviews on the O2X but my take thus far, Im completely blown away.
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hi, welcome
i stick to vorkkernel(normal version), you can get app to install in market for free.
i run it on 1,2 Ghz, with sleep profile in setcpu with 816Mhz.
gives me about 35hrs battery life and great speed in everyday use.
I am on CM7 with swiftkernel, [email protected],2GHz and I am really satisfied. I get 36-48h of normal use with 3G on and the 2x runs as hell.
Only drawback from the swiftkernel: You get a wakeup delay (1 sec.) because the kernel locks the cpu down to 256MHz when the screen is off. (Which results in a higher standbytime.
Hah, I remember my X10, used to run TripNraver MIUI on that does he even still make roms?
Anyway would stick to the stock CM7 kernel if i were you, least problems with that (no SOD, BSOD etc). On vork / swift problems keep popping up (for me at least). CM7 kernel no problems
I really dont have any knowledge about kernel!! pls help me
i am using cyanogen mod 7 and i installed swiftkernel by overclocking to 1.2 ghz wont it damage my phone??? pls do reply thank you very much in advance .....
gomzy27 said:
i am using cyanogen mod 7 and i installed swiftkernel by overclocking to 1.2 ghz wont it damage my phone??? pls do reply thank you very much in advance .....
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You always take a risk when overclocking. With 1.2 it's not a big risk, but there's always one.
Thank you so much!!! can you pls tell me which kernel is good for daily use ??? i am using cyanogen mod 7 ??? when i installed swiftkernel .. i realized that it was automatically overclocked to 1015??? is this fine???
Yo...
I'm using CM Nightly's, in last week I did the install the Vork Kernel, I think so good to diary use.
Now I'm using the #201 with Vork Kernel, all ok. No BSOD and others bugs.
You can use SetCPU with personal profiles.
I'm using max 1216mhz and Profile's Screen Off: max 816 min 216. All ok in this time.
Already did one week, no problems with this.
Just had problem with #202 CM, in #197 and #201 all ok.
so bro if i am running MIUI , what do i need to do to overclock it??
sill any of these kernals be good enough or is there any specific kernal for miui??
hello, xda people,
i am new in XDA and this is my first post. And it is a query about some Antutu scores where i saw galaxy notes clocked to 1780 mhz, 1768 mhz, etc; greater than the 1704 mhz i see on roms like rocket rom and romow rom. I am really new owner of galaxy note. I would appreciate some explanations. Thanks in advance.
Does it make a difference? The 1.2GHZ kernels for the ICS leaks are plenty fast enough, and honestly if you try underclocking your max speed to say 500-800mhz...you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. Half the reason stock Galaxy Note feels so laggy is the painfully slow animations...but maybe that's just me.
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Does it make a difference? The 1.2GHZ kernels for the ICS leaks are plenty fast enough, and honestly if you try underclocking your max speed to say 500-800mhz...you wouldn't even be able to tell the difference. Half the reason stock Galaxy Note feels so laggy is the painfully slow animations...but maybe that's just me.
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Way to answer his question. I'm curious too OP.
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Way to answer his question. I'm curious too OP.
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I don't know...just don't understand what difference some 60hz would make?
smalmagal said:
I don't know...just don't understand what difference some 60hz would make?
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Top benchmark scores?
thanks for the response, people.
i am just wondering if there are other roms or kernels that have higher clock speeds, or may be it's an ICS thing. lags will always be there even with high clocks. but i am wondering ( just saying) gadgets like PSP, which i had many years ago never had lags even if it was on CF or custom kernels or whatever those stuff were. I hope the laggy experience we get in the note will really be fixed to appreciate some sick animations or what not. well anyway, thanks a lot.
I cant even get over 1600 with AbyssNote
Whenever I get it more than that with SetCpu the phone works perfectly but as soon as I try a benchmark (Quadrant or Atuntu) my phone freezes on the cpu 1/8 part and I have to restart it... so how come you guys can go all the way to 1.78 ?
I am using rr22 and abyss note 4.2. My note can be set at 1704 MHZ. apps like games play very smoothly but of course battery saps fast. RR22 is a great rom. The highest point i got from antutu is about 7900, with abyssnote 3.9. I think abyssnote 3.9 is good, but i wanna try BLN that's why i installed 4.2... quadrant always crashes on my note. mate, it's just uberclock. overall performance on decent battery life is still the beast.
Hello guys,
I have upgraded my o2x to a CM 7.2 version. I'm really happy of it, but I'm a little frustrated because it looks like if the cpu was not completely supported by the OS. In fact, when I go to the integrated cpu set menu, I can't push it because there's no freq proposed. So this morning I tried to score something interesting on quadrant -proud of my new OS aha- and only read a poor 1950... With the stock rom I was around 2600/2700. So I noticed a really low cpu score compared to a stock o2x. So here's my question, is CM 7.2 supporting tegra 2 processors? Is there some alternative ROM which could solve this problem?
Thank you all!
You need another kernel to be able to change that values.
And when you want a better benchmark score you should install a kernel which tweaks some i/o values as well - like ETANA.
First of all thank you for answering! I'm just surprised because there's no gain at all, but what I want mostly is a smooth user experience, and a longer battery life.
Is that depending of the kernel and if it is, which one is the best for what I research?
Hi,
i use Etana since last year and it is the best for CM7/MIUI, you can find it here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427646
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
Thanks
Narwhal73 said:
That battery is a fake and has been confirmed as such. If you want a higher cap. battery get a 1500mAh or 1600mAh. I don't like messing with the clocking, good luck to you.
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Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
i'm pretty comfortable with 825 or 844 mhz
It's pretty good with 614 MHz lol
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Running smooth even on 614 Mhz.
Moderate usage.
King Android said:
Thank you for informing me that the battery is a fake ... But the seller has like 96%/100% seller rate or something?
Thanks for all your help, i hited like
Sorry for my 'Noobiness'.
What battery do you reccomend? or should i consider getting a AA battery to USB power charger?
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Right now I am just using the stock one. I personally wouldn't change my battery to anything other than stock, but people have reported that 1500mAh or 1600mAh work well. I wouldn't use anything that has a higher capacity than that though. Also, if it's very inexpensive it's probably not real.
Clocking actually goes on the rom. I've seen people having OC over 1gHz & still stable with the mad kernel but I gave up clocking as I didn't see much of a difference & also underclocking started giving me FCs on some heavy apps while it was all fair in the unclocked state. And again, there's no such thing as a best frequency. You find your own values. What works well for him might mess up your phone rebooting all by itself. Stock batteries are always fine & they also keep you under warranty. Anyone ever wondered why the phone manufacturers didn't implement clocking as a part of it ? Stability is the word. I've seen here, I've seen there. East or west, stock is the best ! Try keeping as close to stock as possible, just to have that extra touch of safety & stability
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Hello all.
I was reading this thread and became interested in overclocking. In my case my device is:
Samsung Galaxy Ace GT-S5830L (labeled as GT-S5830 by CyanogenMod)
CyanogenMod-7.2.0-cooper stable (Android version 2.3.7)
Kernel 2.6.35.7-perf-CL882825 ([email protected] #21)
I was checking in CM settings -> Performance -> CPU settings that I could adjust min and max clockspeed, but in max frequency the maximum one is the same processor's speed, 800 MHz. So my kernel doesn't support overclocking.
After a search in the forums I found there are plenty of custom kernels for this legacy device. But I'm relatively new to the kernel world, so I wanted to ask you for advise. What custom kernel could I try for my device for overclocking? Or King Android, what custom kernel are you using?
It'd the first time I do the overclocking stuff, I'd like to try it to see if some higher quality mp4 videos (which are run by MX Player only in software acceleration) can run better, as well as some games and emulators.
I'm also kind of a noob as you can see. If you want to troll/scold me...
Thank you all.
ctcx said:
Hello all.
I was reading this thread and [...]
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Hi you can try FireKernel or BlackHawk kernel. Use the search function to find them easily. Both supports Overclocking and are made for CM7. [MAKE SURE THEY SUPPORT YOUR S5830L]
At the moment I'm with Democracy ROM which is based on unofficial CM7 and I don't really feel the need of overclocking. It is all smooth with firekernel at
Min 245
Max 806
Governor smartassv2
Sent from my... oh wait, who cares?
I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
You can set it to whatever your phone can handle. Mine can't go past 844Mhz otherwise apps start force closing and such. If your phone is completely stable at 883Mhz then you're good.
As for the battery, no. It's a fake. Buy a 1500mAh like I did. Works like a charm and it brought 3. Lasts a little longer and it's really amazing. Had it for a while now. Still have one in the pack, only been using 2 when I don't get to charge my phone. Really handy.
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I did my search.
Maybe I forgot to mention I haven't installed a custom kernel before... Does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I already mentioned what CM7 I have installed. It's the "official" stable one.
Would OCing help to improve videos and games performance? i.e, faster, no lag...
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OCing helps the phone over all. But remember, without much free ram, OC won't really change much. You need a balance of ram and CPU. Like me, I use swap and OC to 844Mhz. Even if it's a low OC, it's still better than nothing.
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L with CM 7.2. Would OC work for me? Up to what frequency?
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM? Is your device really an Ace?
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
Any help?
ctcx said:
1. @SuperAce609: I have 104 Mb free RAM out of 278 Mb total RAM. Mine is Galaxy Ace S5830L...
And how can you have 600 Mb of RAM...
2. There's still a doubt I haven't been able to find out myself: does the kernel come as a file itself, or along a CM7 custom rom? And if it comes as a file itself, how can I install it? I was suggested FireKernel or BlackHawk ones...
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1.- Every Ace is diferent..some Ace's can go up to 960 Mhz while other just 844 Mhz, the thing is: try it yourself overclocking in small jumps. Swap is a small amount of memory of your SD card, that Android use it like if where RAM, but decreases SD card life...
2.- Some Kernel came Built in on Some particullary ROM's but generally cames on a CWM Flashable zip; FireKernel & BlackHawk are specially for CM7; In my opinion FireKernel is the best... And there are others like Battery Extender Kernel or NimsKernel but these Kernel are only for Stock ROM's...
I hope you find useful my info...
Thank you, Blake2893.
Then there's just 2 doubts left, if you don't mind.
There's a fair number of custom CM7.2 roms with FireKernel in the developer forum. Is there one you or someone else could say is the best in terms of stability and least number of bugs? Or is that something I should test myself in the S5830L?
The Ace S5830/S5830L has 278 Mb total RAM by default. If I understand well, you're implying I could modify SWAP partition in order to increase RAM and, probably if lucky, with this make OC work better. How can I do that? Do I also need a custom kernel/rom for that?
The best stable Roms so far are the stock GingerBread based ones... but if you aks me about CM7 there a few like Apocalypse rom(ICS styled ROM) with the FireKernel that suports swap I think...
and for Swap you only need a Kernel with Swap enabled and a SWAP Partition on your Sd card...
lets see im fine and stable with 979 mhz without reboot for 9 hours
overclock is depend on your hardware
best over clock freq.
King Android said:
Hey guys
I know their probably another thread out there with this in it but... Yeah. But go ahead troll me lol, im still a bit of a noob.:silly:
Anyways, i have a Galaxy Ace s5830. I have Beats with smooth sense ROM. I had it upto 883MHz Yesterday but after i turned it off then back on ROM Toolbox reverted it to 806MHZ. 883MHz seemed a lot faster even though some people get theirs close to 1GHZ
My phone afterwards rebooting had issues such as the phone becoming un-responsive when i was even doing nothing (maybe the overclock to 883MHz had some short term effect?) But the phone seemed fine after safely turning it off then back on several times. Still works perfectly i got scared when it started to become un-responsive. But it works well now i have also used pimp my ROM, and the scripts work like a charm. Especially the call quality one (it uses bravia engine or something?). But with pimp my ROM wi-fi and network tweaks it completely broke wi-fi saying wi-fi connecting... Then saying under the network name 'Error'. Dam it took so long to get the IP address then said error like i said lol
At the frequency 883MHZ the phone seemed stable and faster than ever before, i did change it in small increments
So just wondering, what is the safe and most reliable frequencies to set it at? I currently use 225Min and 806 Max. With the userspace governer.
I know the terms of ' Safe ' and overclock don't mix (sorta like water and my dads S2 :crying: ).
Im also considering buying a 2450MAH battery from ebay for about 5.99 AUD. Any suggestions on should it be okay and better? But i mainly would like to knwo about the overclcoking lol.
So yeah, basically what is a good frequency to set it at? Is 883MHZ okay? Am i going to fry it out or completely brick or damage the phone or cpu if i set it at 883MHZ? Would love to buy a new phone but i need to save im only 14
So yeah please help me and you could help others too. Please be welcomed to troll me
I plan on having this phone another 3-4 Months before i consider buying the S2 or Galaxy note when their cheap (like really cheap)...
Like i said please help, and feel welcomed to troll me when you do help :highfive:
Man i feel like a Rebel when i overclock
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The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
Cyb3rVect0r said:
The best and most stable overclock freq. is actually 906mhz-864mhz. It works like a charm mate! Try it.
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Using CPU high frequencies is not recommended, your device's life will be reduced considerably
Hi everybody,
i´ve started this thread because of getting a view of your experiences of good kernel rom combinations. For every user there are different expectations so i´ve decided to categorize in 3 different sections.
1. Battery Usage
longest battery lifetime - depends on each configuration sure but where did you get the best goal for you
2. Performance
based on user experience - not benchmark
3. Usabiltity
your favourite combination for daily use for balance of performance and speed
Please post for which category you provide your post and write some comments why this is the best combination for you. So let's start to share your experience
:fingers-crossed:
I will start
Battery
For until now is the best combination for battery saving for me this:
Rom: Carbon Rom 1.7
Kernel: Matr1x Kernel 9.0 (non overclocked)
Changing kernel from stock of carbon to matr1x pushed my battery life huge. At this time this is the best combination for me for battery life
carepack said:
Hi everybody,
i´ve started this thread because of getting a view of your experiences of good kernel rom combinations. For every user there are different expectations so i´ve decided to categorize in 3 different sections.
1. Battery Usage
2. Performance
3. Usability
Please post for which category you provide your post and write some comments why this is the best combination for you. So let's start to share your experience
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Nice idea but:
1. Users all have different setups regarding installed roms,apps, widgets, mods and usage.So its very hard to compare screenontime/batterylife.
2. By performance you mean synthethic benchmarks or user experience?
3. Usability! What do you mean exactly by that?
As said don`t want to nitpick but specify the parameters
Me personaly i use Stock 4.2.2 rom and Franco nightlie r148.
gee2012 said:
Nice idea but:
1. Users all have different setups regarding installed roms,apps, widgets, mods and usage.So its very hard to compare screenontime/batterylife.
2. By performance you mean synthethic benchmarks or user experience?
3. Usability! What do you mean exactly by that?
As said don`t want to nitpick but specify the parameters
Me personaly i use Stock 4.2.2 rom and Franco nightlie r148.
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it´s very difficult because of individual configurations and impressions and everybody has to test it on his own but i think it´s good to get an experience what other users prefer Please add a category if it´s possible. That would be nice!
I´ve specified the parameters a bit.
For me PA&AK kernel is the best...I came from Galaxy Nexus btw..
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Nexus 4 battery best battery life
So i'm running P.A 3.60 combined with matrix kernel 8.5 on my nexus 4. I used trickster mod to change it to 2 cpus in use only and its still silky smooth and handles all the games i play still. With Gpu overclocked and limiting the 2 cores in use to 1Ghz when i'm barely using the phone plus display set to about 50% brightness (mabye too high for indoor use but i just love the screen), i got 20+ hours with wi-fi on constantly, and using social networks (facebook, whats app, sent about 100 sms in the day, plus 4 hours of call time) with 18% left. I think thats good enough
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So i'm running P.A 3.60 combined with matrix kernel 8.5 on my nexus 4. I used trickster mod to change it to 2 cpus in use only and its still silky smooth and handles all the games i play still. With Gpu overclocked and limiting the 2 cores in use to 1Ghz when i'm barely using the phone plus display set to about 50% brightness (mabye too high for indoor use but i just love the screen), i got 20+ hours with wi-fi on constantly, and using social networks (facebook, whats app, sent about 100 sms in the day, plus 4 hours of call time) with 18% left. I think thats good enough
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thank you for your settings. can you detailed explain what modifications you've done in trickster mod?
CPU Cores max frequencies / 4 Cores or??
GPU Cores max frequencies / limited to number of cores?
I want to mess up my battery life
thank you
I use Stock ROM and faux123 15tbm kernel
In dual core mode at a maximum clock of 1728 MHz and minimum of 214 with -100mv of UV I had 16 hours of battery time. 4 hours of screen time with normal use, music, gps, chrome and what's app.
The usability its better than stock kernel.
I never had lag issues or bugs.
My best and only at the moment is CM 10.1 + Franco Kernel.
On 2G, wifi on, auto brightness , I've been getting 40 minutes of screen (browsing, on Facebook, etc) at each 10 percent of battery.
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PAC rom and matr1x kernel 9.0.
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The latest Paranoid Android and Franco kernel
saberMod + sts kernel best combination ever.
For me, I quite enjoy Trinity/Franco/Community Kernel with Carbon, or Trinity and CodeFireX. Both super-high performance ROMs.
Connor Baker
Also, I thought that "best of" threads weren't allowed.
I use latest PA and franco.
Hello. I'm on stock 4.2.2 and enhanced stock faux kernel. Stock is fast and pretty stable in this combination. I want try something different but when I try CM with faux kernel it become unstable. Why I'm using faux kernel? Because I'm using Trickster Mod. Which ROM working good with faux kernels? PA maybe?
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Connor Baker said:
For me, I quite enjoy Trinity/Franco/Community Kernel with Carbon, or Trinity and CodeFireX. Both super-high performance ROMs.
Connor Baker
Also, I thought that "best of" threads weren't allowed.
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i think it's ok. It doesn't evaluate best rom's or kernel's. It evaluate experiences. but if it's not ok - i can change thread title. Thank for the hint :good:
Guys, can you please add the section? Nobody knows for which goal is your combination good! Thanks in advance!
Stock + Franco Nightly
I want a flawless system so I stay on stock Android + I don't have the time to maintain nightly updated ROMs like CM, although I really like CM, especially its free customization... But doing those customization = Eat up my time for studying... So I decide to keep me and my N4 away from them
However I cannot accept the battery life and CPU management of the stock kernel so I chose Franco Kernel. I nearly do not play games and I accept seldom lags. My main use is browsing the web (often open up to 10 tabs ) and texting. My battery usually lasts for one day with ~5 hours of on-screen time and it's satisfying.
Running Carbon 1.7 with the latest Trinity kernel (131). Looks pretty solid so far.
Stock + Motley's kernel, with 2.5 days uptime + 3 hours SOT. Can't complain there.
Carbon 1.7, Franco latest nightlie using the BeastlyBattery power mode. On average 5hours screen on time.
Sent from my Nexus 4, the only phone approved by Patrick Star