Chromecast showing as internet connection SSID question... - Google Chromecast

Sometimes when I lose connection and I try to reconnect, both my chromecast would show up in the Wireless Network Connection list of SSIDs. Why does that happen sometime? Whenever this happens and someone in the neighborhood happens to see it and clicks on it, can they connect to my internet?

siratfus said:
Sometimes when I lose connection and I try to reconnect, both my chromecast would show up in the Wireless Network Connection list of SSIDs. Why does that happen sometime? Whenever this happens and someone in the neighborhood happens to see it and clicks on it, can they connect to my internet?
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This is normal behavior and Chromecast will stop broadcasting once it reconnects to your access point.
In Setup mode, Chromecast becomes an Access Point so the Chromecast app can connect to it and set the connection parameters for it to connect to your Access Point.
Since it is an unsecured AP, anyone can connect (and it supports multiple clients). However, whoever connects does not have access to your network or your Internet connection. They are connecting to that Chromecast and that Chromecast alone.
Worst-case scenario* is that someone configures your Chromecast to connect to their WiFi/WLAN and plays videos on your TV. They still won't have access to your network or your Internet connection, and since you still have the device, getting it back is as simple as doing a factory reset via the button (this clears the settings - it doesn't change the firmware/ROM).
* Rooted Chromecasts running Eureka-ROM v1.1 or earlier can potentially expose your WiFi credentials. This will be fixed in an upcoming Eureka-ROM update (and one is scheduled for very soon). To reduce the risk of attack, disable ADB, Telnet and SSH access in the web panel, and if you are going to turn off your WiFi, unplug your Chromecasts too.
Note that the core insecurity is Google's design, not Team Eureka's. So Team Eureka is actually working to add some security over Google's lack of security there. It's kind of like leaving your door unlocked and relying on the fact that your driveway is unmarked and difficult to spot... The added features of Eureka-ROM just make the driveway easier to spot, but that isn't an excuse for not locking your door.

bhiga said:
This is normal behavior and Chromecast will stop broadcasting once it reconnects to your access point.
In Setup mode, Chromecast becomes an Access Point so the Chromecast app can connect to it and set the connection parameters for it to connect to your Access Point.
Since it is an unsecured AP, anyone can connect (and it supports multiple clients). However, whoever connects does not have access to your network or your Internet connection. They are connecting to that Chromecast and that Chromecast alone.
Worst-case scenario* is that someone configures your Chromecast to connect to their WiFi/WLAN and plays videos on your TV. They still won't have access to your network or your Internet connection, and since you still have the device, getting it back is as simple as doing a factory reset via the button (this clears the settings - it doesn't change the firmware/ROM).
* Rooted Chromecasts running Eureka-ROM v1.1 or earlier can potentially expose your WiFi credentials. This will be fixed in an upcoming Eureka-ROM update (and one is scheduled for very soon). To reduce the risk of attack, disable/b] ADB, Telnet and SSH access in the web panel, and if you are going to turn off your WiFi, unplug your Chromecasts too.
Note that the core insecurity is Google's design, not Team Eureka's. So Team Eureka is actually working to add some security over Google's lack of security there. It's kind of like leaving your door unlocked and relying on the fact that your driveway is unmarked and difficult to spot... The added features of Eureka-ROM just make the driveway easier to spot, but that isn't an excuse for not locking your door.
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Wow! Thanks BHIGA! That was very informative.

Related

N1 - 5GHz Wifi?

Does the N1 have 5GHz wifi like the Samsung?
My home LAN is 5GHz only, so I don't disturb the neighbors with my video streaming.
No, 2.4 only...
Ugh.
OK so I turned on the router's 2.4GHz, but with broadcast SSID off. My N1 wouldn't even try to connect. So I turned on router SSID and it connects AES.
I do -not- want SSID broadcast on, as Windows machines' lazy active scan will find me. Sure they'll never get in, but I do not want broadcast on.
Has anyone succeeded in connecting with it off?
When I am connected wifi and open a website on the phone, does it go over wifi preferred over 3G?
I want to share the SD card with a machine on the LAN. What's the best way to do this? FTP? Reverse SSH tunnel? Is there a sshfs for Android? EDIT: NM on this one.
Yes, I remember connecting to a WiFi with SSID off, when I had Nexus.
It is pointless to keep SSID Broadcasting off. It is super easy to find your SSID anyway, and it causes all sorts of additional problems (like the one you are seeing above). Just keep the network secure and it makes life a lot easier.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
Now I find that whenever I have the phone connected to wifi, I lose -all- internet access. Just times out. 3G is still on and wifi is showing connected, but I can't get to websites. As soon as I turn off Wifi I can access the internet again through 3G.
With wifi I -can- access the wireless router's setup webpage from my phone, which tells me I am working through wifi, and I can remotely mount the phone filesystem on a LAN machine using sshfs, but I can not reach anything outside. Any idea why?
Does anyone know whether, when it's working right, it uses the wifi connection in preference over 3G?
The WiFi is ALWAYS preferred to 3G, which means - when you're connected to WiFi, all the internet traffic is routed through WiFi.
I don't understand then, why all data traffic stops to the outside when wifi is connected. The rest of my LAN gets outside fine, just not the phone.
If you can see LAN computers and exchange data with them - it's not the phone that's making problems. See if you have any restrictions in your router.
Oh FFS, my fault...
I set my IP statically for my LAN, and through some alert troubleshooting I found I can ping IPs outside but not DNs. I'd mis-set the DNS server in wifi settings. Now it works great!
I can now use sshdroid to mount my phone's filesystem on my LAN securely. Now, if I could only get it to wifi associate with beacon off...
It would also be nice to mount a filesystem on my LAN to the phone, although I consider the phone unsecure and question the wisdom of that, even with DroidWall running.
There is a market app that lets you connect to a hidden ssid
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Cool, but Market is FCing on me. I did a complete reinstall of the newest MIUI.us, and now Market's FCing again. So can't install any Market apps.
As someone else said, turning SSID off is pointless. It's like taking the numbers off the outside of your house and thinking people driving by won't see your house sitting there.
Apparently you didn't understand what I said here:
Quantumstate said:
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
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If nothing else, please just respect my decision in this regard, or give valid proof that active scanners are not the preponderance.

802.1x

Why Google you no like college students?
Hmmm this probably raises a good point, it's a bit hard to implement something like 802.1x though on a streamer device (where authentication is required per login of network prior to you having the ability to control the device).
I don't see this coming for awhile to be honest unless someone manages to hack it in - I just can't see Google releasing the ability to cache 802.1x network credential sets unfortunately due to the security implications.
Friend of mine had to buy his own router to plug in to the colleges ethernet ports in the dorm. Solved a variety of issues they were having.
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fchowd0696 said:
Why Google you no like college students?
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Beyond the lack of keyboard/interface, large networks in general fear multicast and UPnP because they have potential to easily clog the network.
Also remember that Chromecast in its current state has little security - it's designed for use within a trusted environment.
You probably don't want to be in the middle of Twilight with your girlfriend and suddenly your Chromecast switches over to SpongeBob SquarePants because someone else in the dorm decided BobsChromecast obviously wants to show SpongeBob...
Having your own router and local network will isolate your Chromecast to just your little piece of the campus network, though double-NAT might be an issue, and you should check with campus policy on use of personal WiFi router/AP hardware.
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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ninepoint said:
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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First question is whether you can use a different DNS at all (or whether your ISP is blocking somehow).
Try doing a DNS lookup from another server on your phone/tablet via Ping & DNS or another app that lets you do that.
If that's successful, then it might work - go to the Eureka-ROM web panel at http://Chromecast_IP_addresss/ and turn off DHCP-supplied DNS, Apply, then select another DNS.
You will also need to force your phone/tablet to use the same DNS - otherwise your phone/tablet may be making requests from Mars, while Chromecast tries to retrieve stuff from Venus.

Chromecast not seen on network since 16664 update

Since my Chromecast updated to 16664 (official) last week, I have had a bear of a time having any device see the Chromecast. Prior to the upgrade, I didn't have any issues with connectivity. Now the only way I can get the device to work is to do a reset to defaults and go through the setup procedure. The CC will generally work until the next power-up, then the same thing.
When this happens, the ChromeCast's home screen indicates it's connected to my WiFi network, however no Chromecast enabled program, including the Chromecast app on my phone, sees the device.
There have been no changes to my wireless network settings since it worked last. Given that I've not seen anyone else post about this, I must be the only one seeing the problem. Anyone?
I've seen some similar reports over at Plex but not here...
I myself am on 16664 and have no issues seeing my device.
try a Factory reset and see if reconnecting helps at all.
I've had a similar experience. My Galaxy SII and Galaxy tab 3 can see my Chromecast, but when I run the Chromecast app from my Kindle Fire HD, I get the message "No Chromecasts found on <network>". If I do a factory reset on the Chromecast, then the KFHD will find it, but once it's setup, I won't find it again. For me, the solution was to unplug my TiVo Premiere and TiVo Roamio from my network. Then the KFHD can find and cast to the Chromecast. But if either TiVo is connected to my network, the KFHD can't find the Chromecast. It's weird that this only affects the KFHD and not my other android devices.
SFDave said:
I've had a similar experience. My Galaxy SII and Galaxy tab 3 can see my Chromecast, but when I run the Chromecast app from my Kindle Fire HD, I get the message "No Chromecasts found on <network>". If I do a factory reset on the Chromecast, then the KFHD will find it, but once it's setup, I won't find it again. For me, the solution was to unplug my TiVo Premiere and TiVo Roamio from my network. Then the KFHD can find and cast to the Chromecast. But if either TiVo is connected to my network, the KFHD can't find the Chromecast. It's weird that this only affects the KFHD and not my other android devices.
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TiVos use mDNS advertising for their services.
Recent Chromecast firmware also seems to be using mDNS as well.
Try running Bonjour Browser and see if Chromecast is visible before/after reset or reboot.
Not sure if related but it may help.
My router has 2 channels, 2.4ghz and 5ghz, the chromecast is connected to the 2.4ghz of course, the issue is when another device is also using the 2.4ghz it wont see the chromecast for some strange reason, the second I connect that device to the 5ghz network it will see it and everything will work flawlessly.
kishke said:
Not sure if related but it may help.
My router has 2 channels, 2.4ghz and 5ghz, the chromecast is connected to the 2.4ghz of course, the issue is when another device is also using the 2.4ghz it wont see the chromecast for some strange reason, the second I connect that device to the 5ghz network it will see it and everything will work flawlessly.
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If your router has a WMM option, try toggling it - on some routers WMM implementation is broken and makes things worse when it tries to kick in and make your media streaming better.
Also, if you're streaming local content from another wireless device you may be exceeding the available bandwidth on the band - see WiFi Bandwidth and Router Considerations for diagrams on how the bandwidth usage can multiply depending on how content is being accessed.
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If your router has a WMM option, try toggling it - on some routers WMM implementation is broken and makes things worse when it tries to kick in and make your media streaming better.
Also, if you're streaming local content from another wireless device you may be exceeding the available bandwidth on the band - see WiFi Bandwidth and Router Considerations for diagrams on how the bandwidth usage can multiply depending on how content is being accessed.
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Streaming is fine (using plex with pc as dlna) it's just a weird issue that used to happen, haven't noticed it in a while because our phones always connects to the 5ghz network. WMM is on so if it happens again I'll try playing it.
Also I doubt I'm even getting close to the wireless bandwidth cap.
Thanks for your reply tho!
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Streaming is fine (using plex with pc as dlna) it's just a weird issue that used to happen, haven't noticed it in a while because our phones always connects to the 5ghz network. WMM is on so if it happens again I'll try playing it.
Also I doubt I'm even getting close to the wireless bandwidth cap.
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Weird... Might also be a more general network thing like a rogue device with a static IP causing a collision that Chromecast doesn't gracefully recover from, or a multi-interfaced device causing some kind of loop
But yeah, since you have 5 GHz, best to use that and keep your 2.4 GHz usage to a minimum to maximize available bandwidth for Chromecast..
Let me try a few of the suggestions here. I've not had any luck using 2.4 or 5GHz bands on my network...behavior is the same. Also, my router is an ASUS router with Merlin firmware. There is a new thread I've only glanced over, but I'll try some of the things there as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2599515
I had to do the factory reset trick again last night so we could watch video on the Chromecast...it obviously hasn't gotten annoying to the point where I'm stopping all other activity until I get it fixed, though. Strange this only started happening after the Chromecast update, but I can no longer remember the sequence of events that go me here (chromecast update, router update, wireless AP added for better wireless coverage, etc).
I've seen similar behavior when there are just too many devices connected to the WiFi at once.
My router maxes out at around 9-10 devices...
Doesn't matter which band they are on either.
But to be sure it isn't an IP conflict I suggest setting DHCP reservations for all your regularly connecting devices to ensure they never get a different IP (especially important to do for servers like Plex) and remove that possibility from the equation.
Just to Add I believe the new 802.11AC Standards solve this problem, But you will need to buy a new router to get it.
Using a bonjour browser, I can see the entry for the Chromecast :
_googlecast._tcp.local.
Bedroom.local.:8009
/192.168.254.193
st = 0
ve = 02
md = Chromecast
ic = /setup/icon.png
id = [a very long number]
fn = Bedroom
ca = 5
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I'm running the browser that sees that from a Samsung tablet, which is also running the Chromecast setup app that says it can't find the Chromecast.
EDIT: I've tried the factory default recovery method a number of times now. I see the bonjour record go away, then come back after the setup app says I'm ready to cast. All apps can see the Chromecast at that time, then after 3 to 5 minutes, they no longer see the Chromecast. I don't see any difference in the bonjour record when it working from when it's not working.
troycarpenter said:
Using a bonjour browser, I can see the entry for the Chromecast :
I'm running the browser that sees that from a Samsung tablet, which is also running the Chromecast setup app that says it can't find the Chromecast.
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Just a longshot....But do you have any security software that could be blocking some Apps from communicating with the Network?
It sounds an awful lot like what happens when an AntiVirus Application Monitor has denied access.
Hmm, No, I don't think so.
But I found something interesting. My laptop CAN see the Chromecast, and I can cast Chrome tabs just fine. So far it's only the Android devices that can't see the Chromecast (and at the same time the laptop can). I'm looking for my iPad (I don't use it enough to keep track of it as close as I should) to see if it sees the Chromecast or not.
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Hmm, No, I don't think so.
But I found something interesting. My laptop CAN see the Chromecast, and I can cast Chrome tabs just fine. So far it's only the Android devices that can't see the Chromecast (and at the same time the laptop can).
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That's really odd. Your network has only the ASUS router for wireless, no repeaters or extenders?
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That's really odd. Your network has only the ASUS router for wireless, no repeaters or extenders?
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I do have an extender (not a wireless repeater) in place, but it didn't make any difference before the latest Chromecast update. My next step is to try removing the extender, but I don't know if the Chromecast will see the signal coming from the other side of the house (the reason the extender was put in to begin with).
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I do have an extender (not a wireless repeater) in place, but it didn't make any difference before the latest Chromecast update. My next step is to try removing the extender, but I don't know if the Chromecast will see the signal coming from the other side of the house (the reason the extender was put in to begin with).
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It's quite possible that the update changed something about the WiFi connection that your network simply does not like. People have noted similar "introduced issues" with HDMI before. Definitely submit a report with them if you haven't already, and request that updates NOT be forced to avoid issues like this. Being able to dismiss, postpone or even roll back an update would prevent this type of thing.
If it's not the build, I'm not sure what else it might be, unless your router has somehow quarantined your other Android devices on another band or SSID somehow.
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It's quite possible that the update changed something about the WiFi connection that your network simply does not like. People have noted similar "introduced issues" with HDMI before. Definitely submit a report with them if you haven't already, and request that updates NOT be forced to avoid issues like this. Being able to dismiss, postpone or even roll back an update would prevent this type of thing.
If it's not the build, I'm not sure what else it might be, unless your router has somehow quarantined your other Android devices on another band or SSID somehow.
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Looks like I switched off TKIP and just went AES on that network at some time. I went back and turned on AES+TKIP and now the Chromecast shows up on my mobile devices again. I'll keep an eye out in case that theory doesn't hold out.

Impossible to Setup

I had 2 Chromecast working just fine for a long time,one in the main network and the other in the second network in a room that is too far from the main router.
Then one day i disabled UPNP for security concerns and soon after I realized chromecast needed it and enabled it again, however i was never able to set up it again
I tried using many phones like Galaxy S4, RAZR D3, iPhone 6, Windows 7 PC, I tried resetting the Chromecast to factory defaults many times without success, then I tried the other Chromecast and reset it to factory defaults and could not set up it either, so the problem is on my network.
My wi-fi settings right now:
11n only, it's 2.4GHz only
Channel Width automatic,
Channel is set to 11,
IGMP proxy disabled,
[WPA2-PSK-CCMP][ESS](from wi-fi analyzer app)AES with 54.000 seconds group key update period,
My password length is 13 with ! and () and numbers
WPS disabled
Mac filtering disabled,
Transmit power high,WMM enabled,
Short GI enabled,
AP isolation disabled,
beacon interval is 50,
RTS threshold is 2304,
fragmentation threshold 2346,
using a DHCP server,
UPNP enabled(again),
SPI firewall is enabled ALG all enabled but SIP ALG,
Forbid ping packet from LAN,
Ignore ping from WAN(tried without this too, so i don't think it is this),
Parental control is disabled,
My router uses google dns by default.
I don't use any VPN
My router is a TP-LINK TL-WR941ND my firmware is up to date(3.15.9 for V5 hardware) it is connected to another modem that just run as a bridge and nat disabled if i remember right i don't think it is a problem it with it and the only options related to IGMP on it is IGMP proxy and chromecast support says it need IGMP enabled + IGMP proxy disabled so how i check out this?
I also tried moving the chromecast to a TV that is right next to my router, still get 'can't see the chromecast on your network',
I also tried to give the chromecast a permanent static ip, and port forward it(virtual servers on my router) 2-65535 UDP and 2-65535 TCP but still setup won't complete, i don't know what more i can do other than just trash this stupid chromecast and back to see all my series on laptop.
Sometimes i'm able to cast my tab from a little time after a failed setup but then soon it will say 'no chromecast found', my pc runs comodo firewall however it was not giving me any problem and i tried to setup it with it disabled.
For the god sake i just want to be able to watch my series again, anyone please help me! If you need any more info just ask it, i can run wireshark and send some prints if this can help too.
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Tried today with an Ipad and has able to do the setup and got the screen ready to cast, however i see no ports open in UPNP, and the chromecast app on ipad said it was configured but was not possible to dectect it on my network, and also from time to time the screen would go back to 'connecting to your wi-fi' then go back to 'ready to cast' i was able to cast this table as i write this,will see if it will stay stable and come back.
On my Galaxy S4 GT-i9500 on my chromecast still says no chromecast found for some reason, but i'm able to cast from it, however i seems to get black tabs now when streaming to my chromecast which i don't like, verified the same for my Galaxy S5 , for my Ipad and for my Iphone 6, why????????? I can ping the chromecast too however i had 1% loss of packet on 200 pings in the same room as my router.
You mention you have a main network and a second network. Can you elaborate on how those are connected together?
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You mention you have a main network and a second network. Can you elaborate on how those are connected together?
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The main network is the network of the house and the second network is the network of the backyard, but i'm trying to run the chromecast in the main network, and the second is currently off.
The main network is the tp-link router as access point to a TG862 ARRIS in brigde mode, with firewall and nat disabled.
I think my wi-fi settings are all ok right? So why the chromecast can't setup???
I'd try changing wifi channel to 1 or 6. I'm not a network expert but I'd try that.

Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Asphyx said:
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!
Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.
I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653
I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?

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