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I have noticed that when I use Pandora on Froyo the audio quality is significantly worse than it was on stock 2.1 or cyanogenmod 5.0.7.1.
I am aware of the High and Normal settings in the preferences however it does not help.
Under 2.1 (stock and cyan) Normal would sound alright and High would sound fantastic.
Under 2.2 (froyo) High sounds bad and normal is horrible.
Has anyone else noticed the sound quality drop in pandora moving to Froyo?
This is independent of the song being streamed and is very noticeable when using good headphones.
Are you using the stock 2.2 kernel or one with the audioboost patch?
I have tried using multiple kernels including stock, cyan 2.6.34 and ravens avs 2.6.33.4 kernels. Does not effect the problem at all.
I'm running Paul's pre-root (including 4.06 radio and kernel that came with it) and sounds great to me, same as before (CM 5.0.6+oc/uv+audio mod+desire cam). In fact I'm not sure if I've reset it to stay on High with 3g yet since I updated. (Tmo USA N1 if it makes a difference ).
Wish I could give helpful input other than its possible. I know I wiped everything I could and flashed it over CM.
Running Paul's root with IntersectRaven's .34 kernel and Pandora sounds as good as it did with his kernel on CM5.0.6.
Haven't noticed a difference.
pokey9000 said:
Running Paul's root with IntersectRaven's .34 kernel and Pandora sounds as good as it did with his kernel on CM5.0.6.
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same here.
Hmmm, I will look into this more and report back if I find anything.
Thanks for the help guys.
I as well noticed this problem, tried resting/full wipe, restarting, toggling settings to no results. Terrible audio quality even in high. Other sounds are not affected it seems. Running kernel that the update brought.
Am I the only that has actually plugged the phone into an fm transmitter to use with my car stereo? Of course i am, you kids all have your bluetooth radios and your xms and syriusnessess. When using Pandora, the bass is much much louder in froyo than it was in all previous roms. Kernel with modded sound or not, the bass is big. So, yes, the sound is very different from what it used to be. Mids are too high and highs are meh... nonexistent. It doesn't sound bad on the phone or through earbuds, but unless you like rap, you probably won't like the sound coming through your car. But, I don't think that's anything some decent equilizer software can't fix. Personally, I think the sound is an improvement despite the focus on the lower end of the spectrum. In previous versions, it was to light and airy with no lowend.
mempf said:
I have noticed that when I use Pandora on Froyo the audio quality is significantly worse than it was on stock 2.1 or cyanogenmod 5.0.7.1.
I am aware of the High and Normal settings in the preferences however it does not help.
Under 2.1 (stock and cyan) Normal would sound alright and High would sound fantastic.
Under 2.2 (froyo) High sounds bad and normal is horrible.
Has anyone else noticed the sound quality drop in pandora moving to Froyo?
This is independent of the song being streamed and is very noticeable when using good headphones.
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I am on Froyo, and I notice it.
Also, I notice that songs frequently stop playing in the middle or near the end, and then Pandora seems to fail to recover and skips to the next song. Does that happen for you?
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Also, I notice that songs frequently stop playing in the middle or near the end, and then Pandora seems to fail to recover and skips to the next song. Does that happen for you?
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The same thing happens to me while on 3G, and happens mostly while moving. If I stay still, I can play continuously with no problems. But while walking or driving, I usually can't finish a song before it skips. This also happens on any other internet radio app, like DroidLive and Slacker.
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I am on Froyo, and I notice it.
Also, I notice that songs frequently stop playing in the middle or near the end, and then Pandora seems to fail to recover and skips to the next song. Does that happen for you?
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Yes, I've noted that, as well as fairly frequent brief pauses that do resume and continue to play the current song without skipping to the next. (The combination of my ears and my stereo system are not sufficiently discriminating for me to detect any difference in the audio quality, though.)
I've noticed that I can't control the next song, play/pause with the Bluetooth controls anymore. I hit next to skip a song and my music player starts playing while Pandora is still playing.
I use Pandora often in my car and I also can confirm the audio quality is now horrible for me on Froyo.
If I nandroid back to my CM backup it sounds fine but under Froyo it sounds horrible.
I also have noticed a decrease in audio quality, but that might be due to changing ROMs from CM to Stock Froyo leak... (don't really know how the builds differer audio wise)
@ maxawesome
I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing problems with Pandora. Often my music just stops... sometimes it won't continue streaming either... It worked flawlessly with CM 5.0.6 (though i only use it in my car...)
I am also confirming that after the Paul's Froyo zip update the audio quality has decreased dramatically. It almost seems like the sample rate is much lower affecting mostly higher frequency sounds like voice or instruments that produce higher frequencies. The bass sounds ok, but there is alway a small hiss noticable.
Also, when my screen turns off while Pandora is playing I noticed audio drop out over the BT connection. When I force the screen on this does not seem to occur.
Had the desire rom on it before and audio was stunning, almost CD quality.
Hope someone finds a fix or workaround soon.
anosis said:
I am also confirming that after the Paul's Froyo zip update the audio quality has decreased dramatically. It almost seems like the sample rate is much lower affecting mostly higher frequency sounds like voice or instruments that produce higher frequencies. The bass sounds ok, but there is alway a small hiss noticable.
Also, when my screen turns off while Pandora is playing I noticed audio drop out over the BT connection. When I force the screen on this does not seem to occur.
Had the desire rom on it before and audio was stunning, almost CD quality.
Hope someone finds a fix or workaround soon.
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Agreed, happy to know I am not alone with the issue. For now I have reverted to Cyan 5.0.7.1.
i don't know about pandora, but the stock music app sounds a ton better to me, both through headphones and through my car speakers (using the POS 3.5mm to tape adapter, lol)
The other day I plugged my N1 to my car and noticed the quality was a lot worse. At first I didn't think much about it or even the fact that it was because of Froyo until I came upon this thread. But yeah, the quality is a lot worse now. I am thinking Pandora needs a update.
I installed the CyanogenMod by Maclaw - " Jellybean 4.2.2 (CyanogenMod 10.1) 20130826 "
The audio has changed somewhat now for me. I've noticed that for some individuals the audio is so low it's hard to hear what they say if there is any ambient noise. However, this is only for some of them. For instance, when I talk to my brother in law I can hear without a problem.
Still, overall the audio has dropped, for some contacts quite significantly. And I do have maxed the audio, checked what settings I can think of too.
Is this fixable in some way? Can't find anyone with this problem that got it fixed
Sincerly,
/martin
broman.m said:
I installed the CyanogenMod by Maclaw - " Jellybean 4.2.2 (CyanogenMod 10.1) 20130826 "
The audio has changed somewhat now for me. I've noticed that for some individuals the audio is so low it's hard to hear what they say if there is any ambient noise. However, this is only for some of them. For instance, when I talk to my brother in law I can hear without a problem.
Still, overall the audio has dropped, for some contacts quite significantly. And I do have maxed the audio, checked what settings I can think of too.
Is this fixable in some way? Can't find anyone with this problem that got it fixed
Sincerly,
/martin
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2373165
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2373165
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Thanks you SO very much for that link! :good: It changed for those that was too low, but the ones that had a decent volume level was kept at that. So now I can once again hear what they say!
Well, this just sucks. It didn't change anything at all. It turned out to be only in-calls that had low volume, and it still does.
Also, noticed today that when I make a call and the audio is good, and then turn on loudspeaker it goes really low. Quite annoying..
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Well, this just sucks. It didn't change anything at all. It turned out to be only in-calls that had low volume, and it still does.
Also, noticed today that when I make a call and the audio is good, and then turn on loudspeaker it goes really low. Quite annoying..
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i would recommend that next time you spend a bit more time reading up on posts before using a ROM
you should possibly considering moving to one of the stock based custom ROM's
i would recommend that next time you spend a bit more time reading up on posts before using a ROM
you should possibly considering moving to one of the stock based custom ROM's
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stock base custom rom aren't anyting like cyanogenmod. they are buggy, each developer changes the look of it the way he likes it. i don't like most of them. i know what i say. tryed all of them. used Dmod V5 a while, and then it totally fu...ed it up in last version.
i got used to the problem. waiting for a fix from maclaw or oliver.
I'm currently using the carbon rom, but the problem came up with the early kitkat releases. Basically the hd+ speaker seems to work pretty well, but when I plug a pair of headphones / in ear / everything, the audio becomes incredibly bad.
I don't have nandroid backups, sigh. How do I restore the audio out quality?
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I'm currently using the carbon rom, but the problem came up with the early kitkat releases. Basically the hd+ speaker seems to work pretty well, but when I plug a pair of headphones / in ear / everything, the audio becomes incredibly bad.
I don't have nandroid backups, sigh. How do I restore the audio out quality?
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You could boot into recovery, make a full backup, then try any rom flavor and if you don't like at any time then just restore and continue where you left off. Titanium backup free for quick app restore in any new installed rom if you like it.
Headphones sound normal on cm official feb 4th build. Could be carbon rom.
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You could boot into recovery, make a full backup, then try any rom flavor and if you don't like at any time then just restore and continue where you left off. Titanium backup free for quick app restore in any new installed rom if you like it.
Headphones sound normal on cm official feb 4th build. Could be carbon rom.
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I will try that and report back asap.
I will try the latest 10.2.1 stable (1 february)
sandsofmyst said:
You could boot into recovery, make a full backup, then try any rom flavor and if you don't like at any time then just restore and continue where you left off. Titanium backup free for quick app restore in any new installed rom if you like it.
Headphones sound normal on cm official feb 4th build. Could be carbon rom.
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Thanks, it seems to have worked . If anything bad happens, I'll post here.
Nope, audio problem is still there. I used a pair of big headphones and sound was somewhat better, but when I used the in ear headphones, the bad, noisy quality revealed itself in all its dark magnificence.
So we can somewhat exclude it's a rom related issue, I think.
So the problem did not solve. Any other thoughts?
I had same problem with audio from the phone jack. Made high bitrate mp3 sound like 64kbps stream. I honestly don't know what I did to fix it. I think it was just updating to a newer cm11 nightly build.
hello,i'm experiencing the same problem too.especially when i turn to volume up,i try to fix it using apps like v4a but not a real success so far.i'd like to somehow a fix for this prob.
Hello people. It's somewhat heartwarming to know that there's someone else that has got the same problems. I've, too, tried to fix this with V4A, but without success.
Leapinlar told me that going from jb to kk and getting back can be problematic and we should probably try to wipe system manually (CWM>wipe system).
I'm currently using a Carbon JB ROM. I will try to re-install it today, by performing every single wipe available and report here to let you know the outcome. Wish me luck :silly:
So I did all wipes and installed cm11 but the problem is still there, even wiping system manually. I don't really know what to do
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So I did all wipes and installed cm11 but the problem is still there, even wiping system manually. I don't really know what to do
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Did you try a different music player? Try something like Rocket Player. Also, maybe you should flash pure stock, just so you can better isolate the problem. If it's still there with pure stock, then it might be a hardware issue. If it isn't there, then you know it's the ROM or some type of app conflict.
I have CM11 nightlies on my HD and notice no audio problems whatsoever. I am pretty picky about audio, love the sound on my HD, and would have gone right back to stock or something else if I found any audio problem with CM11.
metropolitans said:
Did you try a different music player? Try something like Rocket Player. Also, maybe you should flash pure stock, just so you can better isolate the problem. If it's still there with pure stock, then it might be a hardware issue. If it isn't there, then you know it's the ROM or some type of app conflict.
I have CM11 nightlies on my HD and notice no audio problems whatsoever. I am pretty picky about audio, love the sound on my HD, and would have gone right back to stock or something else if I found any audio problem with CM11.
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NEW DETAILS: sound quality is actually normal. With a pair of headphones I have no problems, BUT when I plug in the stock in-ear earphones from my sony ericsson xperia arc s sound quality lowers significantly.
Being that I study audio engineering and I'm becoming more and more experienced with sound, the sound output is really similar to sound in which there are some huge phase cancellation problems going on.
So the volume of different frequencies lowers significantly as they just get cancelled out of the output, forcing me to raise the volume until I hear a really bad, full of background noise sound.
However, when I use the earphones on my nook, and keep pressed the headset button used to pause/skip tracks or to respond to an incoming call (when I use it on the smartphone), sound goes back to normal! If I release it, sound goes back to being bad.
So, my theory is that when we connect a common TRS connector (like the one used by my headphones) we have no problems with the audio output. However, when we connect a TRRS connector (like the one used by my in-ear earphones), some bad stuff happens, like, bad circuitry stuff.
So I think that the TRRS connector is either not compatible hardware-wise with the nook (wouldn't surprise me, as it wasn't designed to be used as a phone), or the nook software is simply not correctly programmed to handle a TRRS type connector, like the ones used on smartphones
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NEW DETAILS: sound quality is actually normal. With a pair of headphones I have no problems, BUT when I plug in the stock in-ear earphones from my sony ericsson xperia arc s sound quality lowers significantly.
Being that I study audio engineering and I'm becoming more and more experienced with sound, the sound output is really similar to sound in which there are some huge phase cancellation problems going on.
So the volume of different frequencies lowers significantly as they just get cancelled out of the output, forcing me to raise the volume until I hear a really bad, full of background noise sound.
However, when I use the earphones on my nook, and keep pressed the headset button used to pause/skip tracks or to respond to an incoming call (when I use it on the smartphone), sound goes back to normal! If I release it, sound goes back to being bad.
So, my theory is that when we connect a common TRS connector (like the one used by my headphones) we have no problems with the audio output. However, when we connect a TRRS connector (like the one used by my in-ear earphones), some bad stuff happens, like, bad circuitry stuff.
So I think that the TRRS connector is either not compatible hardware-wise with the nook (wouldn't surprise me, as it wasn't designed to be used as a phone), or the nook software is simply not correctly programmed to handle a TRRS type connector, like the ones used on smartphones
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I wonder if your Sony earphones are somewhat proprietary in their wiring. TRRS seems to work fine with a generic pair of Scosche headphones I use on my tablets and Nexus S phone. The button works too, unlike on my 2012 Nexus 7.
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I use high end earbuds and Bose headphones, the nook hd+ on cm10.2 or cm11 sounds great. Cleaner than any other android I've used.
Are you at max volume or 2nd to max? Those have been very slightly crackly since verygreen bumped audio gain back in august. those settings are in audio.primary.ovation.so. I edited mine.
I don't use my nook as a phone, seems ridiculous.
Hello,
I have installed CM11 on wifes mini 2, but the sound is very distorted at higher volumes. I read that I should install viper4android, which I have done, but I cant seem to stop the distortion. Also, when I am tweaking settings in Viper, I don't hear any difference. This is in both Apollo and Google Play Music.
Message alerts are also piercing and distorted.
Any help much appreciated
i have just spoken to someone in the cyanogenmod irc and it turns out that the amp in the phone gets put into bypass mode when flashing a non stock rom. They said that there was nothing they can do about it and that, as far as they are aware, there is no fix.
Surprised that no one else has noticed anything with flashed roms.
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i have just spoken to someone in the cyanogenmod irc and it turns out that the amp in the phone gets put into bypass mode when flashing a non stock rom. They said that there was nothing they can do about it and that, as far as they are aware, there is no fix.
Surprised that no one else has noticed anything with flashed roms.
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People did notice it, usually referred to as 'Sound Crackling'. They are right in saying there is no fix ATM. It is one of the things that keeps me away from CM11 and CM12, besides the camera.
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People did notice it, usually referred to as 'Sound Crackling'. They are right in saying there is no fix ATM. It is one of the things that keeps me away from CM11 and CM12, besides the camera.
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Sorry, the camera??? My wife has said that she is pleased with the camera as it is now very responsive. To be honest the sound is not a major issue, it is only really noticable when the volume is cranked up high. A little lower and it is still better than my nexus 5.
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Sorry, the camera??? My wife has said that she is pleased with the camera as it is now very responsive. To be honest the sound is not a major issue, it is only really noticable when the volume is cranked up high. A little lower and it is still better than my nexus 5.
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The camera app is what troubles me. I still have not found a replacement for the stock sense camera app in my usage scenario
Hey guys,
Running PA 7.2.3-RELEASE currently.
Android 7.1.2
I've been having 2 issues with my phone lately:
1. I'm able to play music through my phone, to my car radio using bluetooth.
When I try to make a phone call, I can dial using my car radio, but there is no sound through bluetooth. (or a horrific noise)
2. This issue has persisted across a few different roms - Whenever my phone gets below 50% battery, it seems to disable 2/4 cores. This causes the phone to act sluggishly and really ruins the experience.
I don't particularly care for the phone deciding whether I care more about battery life than performance, so how the heck can I fix this? Can I use Franco Kernel with PA?
Cheers,
Hereric