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Unlocked Moto X question

I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo?
And if no, then my next question would be if I used it on AT&T, do I lose LTE? I was told mixed things, that I would and I may not have AT&T 4G LTE.
Because then I may just get the Nexus 5.
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justinisloco said:
I am in the market to get either the nexus 5 or moto x. Finally switching off of Verizon and thinking of going to AT&T.
I want to MotoMake my own Moto with the unlocked (T Mobile) option, if i do so, is there bloatware or carrier logo? ...
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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).

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There is no carrier branding or bloatware on the T-Mobile version (XT1053).
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Thanks, would you be able to answer the second question as well?
~The agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog~

You don't lose LTE. You may have to call up AT&T to make sure AT&T lists it as a LTE device, as a few people here have done.
Sent from my Moto X

I'm using the T-Mobile variant on straight talk and I pick up LTE off of at&ts towers
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So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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justinisloco said:
So !y last question would be updating/rooting. So would I get a upgrade close to the date of when Motorola releases it? Or when AT&T approves it, even though its carrier unlocked?
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.

chrstndsgnr said:
Which upgrade are you taking about? If you mean the 4.4 KitKat, then you'll probably see it soon after you turn on the phone unless it ships with it already. Any subsequent updates you should see soon after T-Mobile releases it no matter the carrier.
If you're talking the two year upgrade for a new phone, then it's two years from the date you sign the contact. Although that doesn't matter if you're buying your device outright.
For the last question, the only devices that have a safely unlockable bootloader are the dev devices, not the MotoMaker ones. You can unlock the bootloader on the T-Mobile phone, but in doing so you will void your warranty. Unlocking the bootloader on Dev device will not void the warranty
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Edit: clarifying my train of thought after just waking up.
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Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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justinisloco said:
Thanks, yes I meant the kit Kat, but I'm thinking future updates (like 4.4.1) would I get it when AT&T gets it or when TMo gets it, although I'll be on AT&T.
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You'll get it when T-Mobile releases it. I've never been on their service and I got the notification for kitkat about 10 minutes after I inserted my straight talk sim card that's using at&ts towers
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Can't get straight answers!....HELP if you please
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
Another question:
Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.

justinisloco said:
And would the bootloader come unlocked?
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No, you have to get an unlock code from Motorola and it voids your warranty.
Why not just get the GSM Dev Ed and keep your warranty after you unlock it?

I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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Zcam said:
I've been doing research and making a lot of calls to both AT&T and to motorola regarding the GSM unlocked(Tmo) version of the MOTO X on the ATT network. Specifically, I have asked ATT about the 850 Mhz LTE band (which is not supported on the GCM unlocked X) and how, If at all, would my service be affected by the lack of this freq. NO one at ATT seems to know anything. I asked moto(numerous times) before I ordered and was told it's the "same phone" or that it "will work". No one seems to be able to tell me specifically if not having this band will adversely effect my ability to get service as I travel the country(US). The phone arrives wed and I'll post again with the results. After I update the APN settings(if needed) we'll see what happens. The only reason I opted for the GSM unlocked version is to be able to use PDA NET + to tether and use another carrier if I desire. (grandfathered unlimited data).
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AFAIK, the 850MHz band is only used for 2G/3G, which is usable by the unlocked X. From my research, I don't see anyone with any plans to use LTE on that frequency.
Short answer: If AT&T or one of their roaming partners has service, you should be fine.
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Will I need to root the phone to use PDA net, or can u I just use native tethering on the GSM unlocked on the ATT network. ?? Thanks in advance.
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You would not be able to use native tethering unless you pay for the tethering service to the best of my knowledge.
From what I remember of PDA.net from years ago was that it did not need root to function.
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Thraxzzz said:
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was/is the original stance by Motorola. They got a bit of backlash and reversed the decision for the Dev devices only.
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Thraxzzz said:
I bought the Dev edition and inside there's this piece of paper that says that after requesting the unlock code, it'll void the warranty, weird
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That was their old policy. Motorola has reversed themselves on that policy.

Motorola ID can't connect

Anyone else experience issues with motorola Id not connecting? I tried to clear the data on some of the moto apps and no luck, it immediately goes to this "unable to connect" as if it didn't even try to.

Same issue here. Are you using it on T-Mobile by any chance or are you on Verizon. Either way its very annoying

GriffenD said:
Same issue here. Are you using it on T-Mobile by any chance or are you on Verizon. Either way its very annoying
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T-Mobile. Though I can't imagine that would be an issue.

gordonzhao said:
T-Mobile. Though I can't imagine that would be an issue.
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I don't imagine it would be either but on T-Mobile and having the same issue

What happens if it dosn't connect? I was thinking of removing it altogether, I'm pretty sure it in no way exists for my benefit.

Krab, the issue is that I want to use connect, it's the only way to use the stock watch faces on my moto 360 and be able to customize the stock ones. Connect also allows you to reply to text messages from your computer on chrome through the extension.

Ok, so it does have a use then, thanks. I think I'm going to freeze it and see what happens if anything, I don't use chrome nor have any wear devices.

Ya its annoying to say the least but I'm going to activate it on Verizon prepaid when the kit gets here for it and do a factory reset to see if that's the issue. I'll go back to T-Mobile after I get a fix for it

I have the og sim from vzw, which you gave me an idea. I wonder if it'll work if I use that and wifi to activate connect then put the tmobile sim back in
Update : no luck, I'm beginning to think it's not the network as why would an app that is universal be network dependent? It uses the same motorola id, which logs in fine on my moto g and connect logs in fine on my moto g too.

That's a bummer. Ya it works fine on my moto x and my wife's moto x and my aunts moto g. Shame it won't connect...

The other thing I don't understand is, connect is used for the moto 360 as well, so it'll work on the G, but the G doesn't support the chrome extension. Which at the least it should work for the turbo...

I troubleshooted with moto care today and they had me register my device on the site and then wait a bit before attempting to reconnect it. I'll report back if it works

GriffenD said:
I troubleshooted with moto care today and they had me register my device on the site and then wait a bit before attempting to reconnect it. I'll report back if it works
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Is there some sort of registration thats different than the app? Though I think I have gone to the website and had the phone registered too, anyways, keep me posted. Thanks

failing on droid maxx too
gordonzhao said:
Is there some sort of registration thats different than the app? Though I think I have gone to the website and had the phone registered too, anyways, keep me posted. Thanks
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i have been trying to connect on my droid maxx but getting same error as OP

Got mine to connect. Did a factory reset and activated the phone on a Verizon Sim and after it connected switched my T-Mobile Sim back in and I'm in business

I've been having the same issue. By chance are any of you using 2-factor authentication on your google account?

jpolzner said:
I've been having the same issue. By chance are any of you using 2-factor authentication on your google account?
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Yes. Though I'm already logged in on my phone so it shouldn't request for 2 step. My moto g doesn't.
GriffenD said:
Got mine to connect. Did a factory reset and activated the phone on a Verizon Sim and after it connected switched my T-Mobile Sim back in and I'm in business
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That's bs that it would need a vzw sim to start, and I'm not going to get a prepaid from vzw just for that...I'm getting a maxx anyways f it.

gordonzhao said:
Yes. Though I'm already logged in on my phone so it shouldn't request for 2 step. My moto g doesn't.
That's bs that it would need a vzw sim to start, and I'm not going to get a prepaid from vzw just for that...I'm getting a maxx anyways f it.
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Ya I agree but it is a Verizon phone intended for Verizon. You could always get a friends Sim. That's what I did anyways. Best of you luck to you!

GriffenD said:
Ya I agree but it is a Verizon phone intended for Verizon. You could always get a friends Sim. That's what I did anyways. Best of you luck to you!
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True, if everything goes accordingly I should have my moto maxx by next week

Yep, it's the who vzw bs. I'm using the Maxx right now and it's working just fine

question.

I have a Nexus 6 I bought from a 3rd party. Its a TMo variant so its Sim unlocked and whatnot. When I put my VZW Sim in I get LTE and such. I can't call nor send texts messages from said device. From what I get from threads on here I should request a new Sim card and stuff from VZW but if that doesn't work how would I go about fixing this issue. I mean I've already tried the whole calling the Verizon and having them elevate the case but that doesn't do anything. Eh. I mean I still have my M8 so I've been using that but it seems like this phone just doesn't want to work on VZW.
Are there any special things I should do to my phone to make it work. Or any special APNs I should use
Thanks
-ElChibo

Please could you describe your question in the thread title? Maybe something a bit more descriptive like "using Verizon sim in TMO N6 - no calls or sms"? That way you will target the people who may know the answer whilst saving people who don't the time spent on reading the thread?
Thanks for your consideration

The phone is going to be blocked via the IMEI.
I don't see it happening on Verizon. Maybe after they roll out the Nexus on their network we would know more.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...or-that-carrier-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
Sent from my Nexus 6

DebianDog said:
The phone is going to be blocked via the IMEI.
I don't see it happening on Verizon. Maybe after they roll out the Nexus on their network we would know more.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...or-that-carrier-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Mine was purchased from Motorola and activated just fine on VZW. Used a cut down sim card from my last phone. Phone was purchased in November.
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My N6 is from Sprint. Installed my Nano Verizon Sim and it works perfectly.

trickster2369 said:
Mine was purchased from Motorola and activated just fine on VZW. Used a cut down sim card from my last phone. Phone was purchased in November.
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Yes direct from Google or Motorola has always worked. I have one from Google myself on Verizon.
lukesdiesel said:
My N6 is from Sprint. Installed my Nano Verizon Sim and it works perfectly.
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This surprises me maybe Verizon has decided to stop being such douchebags.
Sent from my Nexus 6

The N6 is carrier unlocked except the AT&T version and that's easily remedied, it's got to be APN related. Try a ROM that includes all of the Verizon APN's like Chroma and see if that helps.

If you have a SIM that was already activated then there probably won't be a problem -- it should work fine in any N6 (except I hear the AT&T is network locked).

Verizon bought Nexus on different carrier?

Hi,
From what i've seen it sounds like Verizon no longer locks their LTE phones. So am I correct in believing that if I got a nexus 6 through verizon, I would be able to just plug in a t-mobile SIM and use it without issue?
Would wiping completely and flashing all the stock google images remove any verizon bloat/bootscreen?
THanks

530farm said:
Hi,
From what i've seen it sounds like Verizon no longer locks their LTE phones. So am I correct in believing that if I got a nexus 6 through verizon, I would be able to just plug in a t-mobile SIM and use it without issue?
Would wiping completely and flashing all the stock google images remove any verizon bloat/bootscreen?
THanks
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Yes should work fine, but why get it from Verizon?

akellar said:
Yes should work fine, but why get it from Verizon?
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My GF had a verizon upgrade she didn't care to use. So figured it would be nice to pay $350 vs $650. First time i've bought a phone off a carrier in like 4 years. Can't believe they charged a $40 upgrade fee. Tmobile FTW!

530farm said:
Hi,
From what i've seen it sounds like Verizon no longer locks their LTE phones. So am I correct in believing that if I got a nexus 6 through verizon, I would be able to just plug in a t-mobile SIM and use it without issue?
Would wiping completely and flashing all the stock google images remove any verizon bloat/bootscreen?
THanks
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Thats not necessarily true some carriers still can sim lock until device is paid off or contract is complete.
Edit: AT&T did this

the_rooter said:
Thats not necessarily true some carriers still can sim lock until device is paid off or contract is complete.
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Yeah, I know from my ATT days. However as far as I can tell, I believe Verizon doesn't follow this tactic.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/commitment/safety-security/device-unlocking-policy.html
Device Unlocking Policy
Postpay Device Unlocking Policy:
We do not lock most phones or tablets that are activated with our postpay service, either during or after the term of your service contract or Edge installment sales agreement.
We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.

530farm said:
Hi,
From what i've seen it sounds like Verizon no longer locks their LTE phones. So am I correct in believing that if I got a nexus 6 through verizon, I would be able to just plug in a t-mobile SIM and use it without issue?
Would wiping completely and flashing all the stock google images remove any verizon bloat/bootscreen?
THanks
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Be careful about this assumption. The Droid Turbo boot loader is still locked an there is no root, while the Droid Moto Maxx (International Turbo version is unlocked) . Most verizon phones can go from Carrier to carrier if they are a global phone so from that perspective they are not locked and can be used on other carriers but it doesn't guarantee the boot loader is unlocked and root is available.

Verizon
I got a Verizon Nexus 6 activated on Sprint yesterday. They just dropped the last digit of the IMEI and it activated with no issue. No SIM lock either. Store was very reluctant to try but 1 guy there had a Nexus himself and wanted to see if it worked.

jaydg81 said:
I got a Verizon Nexus 6 activated on Sprint yesterday. They just dropped the last digit of the IMEI and it activated with no issue. No SIM lock either. Store was very reluctant to try but 1 guy there had a Nexus himself and wanted to see if it worked.
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Were you able to root your Verizon Nexus 6? I haven't seen anyone comment on that.

rsalas187 said:
Were you able to root your Verizon Nexus 6? I haven't seen anyone comment on that.
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I have not tried to yet.

Need Help Unlocking ATT Moto X 2014

I need help unlocking my att Moto X 2014.
What I have done is place a tmobile sim card in the devices. I received a but it just goes away. I have place the correct apn setting in the devices but a signal doesn't show up.
Can someone help me get this phone unlock to use on Tmobile?
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TheGman125 said:
I need help unlocking my att Moto X 2014.
What I have done is place a tmobile sim card in the devices. I received a but it just goes away. I have place the correct apn setting in the devices but a signal doesn't show up.
Can someone help me get this phone unlock to use on Tmobile?
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Believe it or not, lots of people have successfully gotten ATT to unlock their on contract and Next phone simply by requesting it through their online portal. If you are not currently an ATT customer, you select non-ATT Mobility customer.
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
If the phone was bought on contract and the line is currently under contract, it is YMMV. Same if it is a Next device. But if the phone is not on contract or purchased with a Next plan, they will definitely unlock it for you.

Andrew K. Sterling said:
Also, you can always try an unlock code provider. There are a couple of very reliable services online which will definitely unlock your Moto X.
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I appreciate that but I am not getting the option to apply a unlock code to my devices.
I am trying to see if anyone else is having that issue?!