I just purchase, less than a week ago, two LG G2 phones on Verizon. Awesome phone. I am curious about the root flag in the units. If I root the phone and it sets the flag does a complete flash back to stock reset the root flag back to unrooted? Secondly, where can I find the VS98012B stock ROM (non-rooted) files to reflash the device?
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So I'll be getting a Verizon Moto X soon and I plan to root via SlapMyMoto. My question is this: If my device ever needs to be serviced for warranty or resold at a later date, will I be able to unroot with ease back to 100% stock 4.4 without a trace of the rooting? The process is so convoluted that I worry it breaks certain things and I won't be able to switch back to pure stock. Has anyone tried this?
"100% stock without a trace of rooting"... No. You can easily flash back to the stock 4.2.2 image, But the system write protect that "WpNoMo" disables, does not revert back (meaning, the system wp will remain disabled). So, it will be nearly indistinguishable from stock, but a trained expert could easily detect it (a single command sent over adb will tell you wp is off).
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I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my 32g VZW Moto with Slap 1.0, but just received my Dev Edition from the $100 off sale. My plan is to return the original back to stock and sell. Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
trrubicon06 said:
I was wondering the same thing. I rooted my 32g VZW Moto with Slap 1.0, but just received my Dev Edition from the $100 off sale. My plan is to return the original back to stock and sell. Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
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This. For all practical purposes, will the phone pass a warranty test and be resellable to act like a normal phone with OTA updates and the like?
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Will the stock recovery return when flashing back to 4.2.2? I wanna make sure the buyer can upgrade OTA and whatever like stock.
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Yes it will. Like stock depends on whether or not you disabled write protection completely.
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This. For all practical purposes, will the phone pass a warranty test and be resellable to act like a normal phone with OTA updates and the like?
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I believe the answer is yes because the 4.4 OTA tripped the counter.
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Yes it will. Like stock depends on whether or not you disabled write protection completely.
I believe the answer is yes because the 4.4 OTA tripped the counter.
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What does that mean? Apologies for my relative ignorance in this field.
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What does that mean? Apologies for my relative ignorance in this field.
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From what I've read, the 4.4 OTA trips the flash counter within the bootloader as if you had flashed something yourself manually. What I gathered from that is there's no way to distinguish a previously rooted Moto X from a completely stock Moto X with the 4.4 OTA.
That's good to hear. So I'll be able to root 4.4, unroot, and get whatever the newest OTA is (probably 4.4.2) without any issue?
gerodive said:
That's good to hear. So I'll be able to root 4.4, unroot, and get whatever the newest OTA is (probably 4.4.2) without any issue?
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when ever you want to go back to stock you just need to download the stock firmware and flash it via RSD Lite or Fastboot and then take the OTA
So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
Although lollipop is making it difficult to root, you would still be able to unlock your BL on lollipop. Since it appears you don't have a need to root right now, I would just wait until lollipop. The reason to wait is if you install a recovery or freeze apps, you won't be able to install OTA until you restore stock recovery etc.
As long as you have an unlocked / unlockable BL, you will always be able to install a custom recovery / root.
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Hi all, I was wondering if it would be less of a hassle to keep my BL unlocked Moto X stock until Lollipop OTA comes out OR if it might actually be harder to install recovery, root, etc when 5.0 is on the phone? IIRC KK made some changes that caused hassles on rooting, recovery install for some phones. I have Dev Edition, thanks
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it depends.
With an unlocked bootloader we should continue to be able to flash a custom recovery, and custom rom.
However, there are several unknowns right now, including when will we see Lollipop for the X? Which variant of the 2013 X (Dev vs ATT vs VZW vs Sprint, etc) will get it first? When will soak tests start? When will the carriers finally push it, etc?
Then we don't know how hard or easy it will be to root. At first a custom kernel was needed to root Lollipop, but now it seems Chainfire has found away around that http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...w-to-root-lollipop-without-a-modified-kernel/ Until we see L on a 2013 X, we wont know for sure.
In any case, its always less hassle to keep your phone STOCK if you want to take an OTA. The OTA's need stock recovery on the phone in order to install. Also, diverting from stock can mean changes which will cause the OTA's pre-flash validation checks to fail, and the OTA to not install.
US Cellular is STILL on 4.4.2 lol 5.0 seems a hundred miles away still. Glad I'm unlocked, rooted and stock (Xposed Gravitybox) best combo IMHO.
I've searched and found variations on these questions in other posts, but I didn't come across any pertaining quite to my situation, so I wanted advice before I do something wrong and brick my phone.
I have a Sprint Moto X, unlocked & rooted, running 4.2.2 (I think pre-camera update). I'd like to upgrade to stock Sprint Lollipop (when it comes out) & stay unlocked & rooted.
My understanding of the steps that need to be taken:
1. Unroot my device
2. Re-lock my device
3. Flash TWRP and boot to recovery
4. Flash stock Sprint Lollipop
5. Unlock, then re-root device
Is any of this extraneous, or am I leaving anything out? Do I need to upgrade to KitKat before going to Lollipop?
I also have Xposed installed and I have tweaked the PRL on my device ... this shouldn't complicate the upgrade, right?
Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
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Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
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i have a sprint X and if i am going to update this is how i have allways done it with no issues at all.
you can leave your bootloader unlocked that is no a issue. but i always take OTA's and you cant take a OTA with a modded system. so i allways just flash my stock firmware package. that way it removes my custom recovery. Root, and all Xposed changes. Then i take the OTA and just reinstall TWRP, then SuperSU then what ever else you want.
this is the safest way i have found to update, the nice thing about Unlocked Sprint phones is we can easily Root are phones via TWRP and SuperSu.
just my .02 you can do it how ever you like but this is how i am going to do it when the OTA finally comes out if it ever does.
I have the unlocked T-Mobile, 2014 Moto X - Great phone the way it is, currently running 5.1. I realize root is possible but just had a few questions for any experts out there....
1. Will OTA updates still be doable if I root?
2. Can I unroot and get back to 100% normal if I want?
Thanks all
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terrapin69 said:
I have the unlocked T-Mobile, 2014 Moto X - Great phone the way it is, currently running 5.1. I realize root is possible but just had a few questions for any experts out there....
1. Will OTA updates still be doable if I root?
2. Can I unroot and get back to 100% normal if I want?
Thanks all
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First there's a Q&A thread already here to ask any question without the need of making a new thread. This is the Moto X¹ thread not the 2.
1. Yes OTA maybe could be doable but you'll lose root if they are successful.
2. Yes.
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direct me to the thread kind sir?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think you can't go back to 100% stock right now. If you are rooting you need a custom recovery which overwrites the stock one. Since there is no way to backup the stock recovery without prior rooting you running into trouble. It's not possible to go back to the stock recovery without sbf file. Motorola did NOT released any sbf files for 5.1 yet. So there is no way to go back to 100% stock. Also future OTAs could fail since you are not completely stock and it may check if the recovery matches.