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hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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U can just as easily leave xda .... it takes time to pick up extra developers. Learn yourself and put out your own rom !!!
I've started on it myself..... I know a few others who have too.... learning takes time ! ALSO FYI, We already have 2 different froyo builds, 1 honeycomb build, and Ubuntu partially functioning. I've talked with 2 people who have already started trying their hand at gingerbread. Nothing official there yet though.
Most of us have jobs and families..... time isn't so abundant. If u have the time then do something about it and stop complaining
Donating to developers is also an incentive ........
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mods please move this where it belongs.
avoid Android - get an Apple device
tswtech2 said:
hello everyone, I recently purchased a dell streak 7 and actually love it but have been disappointed in the lack of rom development for the device. it makes me feel like i purchased the device that nobody cares about. everyday i check the development section just to see the same post. there is never anything new so i was wondering why this sub-forum still open???? I dont think we really need a whole sub-forum just to see when dj steve releases an update for the same rom. One developer should not warrant a whole sub-forum. This makes me wish i would have hung on to my g-tab.
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that type of service - you got the wrong device - I would suggest you return your streak and get an Apple itouch - where everything is on silver platter for you....and rom updated for you all you do is download....
pyraxiate said:
U can just as easily leave xda .... it takes time to pick up extra developers. Learn yourself and put out your own rom !!!
I've started on it myself..... I know a few others who have too.... learning takes time ! ALSO FYI, We already have 2 different froyo builds, 1 honeycomb build, and Ubuntu partially functioning. I've talked with 2 people who have already started trying their hand at gingerbread. Nothing official there yet though.
Most of us have jobs and families..... time isn't so abundant. If u have the time then do something about it and stop complaining
Donating to developers is also an incentive ........
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mods please move this where it belongs.
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Agreed. Im working on an better kernel right now, but I am deployed to Iraq, so I got **** going on. But, hopefully something soon guys.
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binarybishop said:
Agreed. Im working on an better kernel right now, but I am deployed to Iraq, so I got **** going on. But, hopefully something soon guys.
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You are the man
Hopefully working bluetooth and overclock
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I've a Linux box and some working knowledge. I'm no Dev but if you give me a quick rundown and or pointers, I could lend a hand with compiling ..... I just haven't compiled on x86 for arm.
Kernel for what? Froyo? Hc kernel source isnt out yet for the 7 seems how it hasnt been officialy updated yet? Unless you know something i dont?
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Oh and to the op sell your 7 and get your gtab back.
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Donmotobike said:
that type of service - you got the wrong device - I would suggest you return your streak and get an Apple itouch - where everything is on silver platter for you....and rom updated for you all you do is download....
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lol...some funny stuff...
Threads like these may warrant closure.
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I feel its time to move on isnt it?
what do you guys think, the development rate has declined steadily and also there's hardly any developer left!
I guess by november its will be moved to legacy devices on XDA!!
Hmm, jellybean roms, a new transformer promised, at least or 2 or 3 excellent developers rumours of viper mod, yeah nothing left here, bye..
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this thread is 10 seconds of my life i wont get back
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Hmm, jellybean roms, a new transformer promised, at least or 2 or 3 excellent developers rumours of viper mod, yeah nothing left here, bye..
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Don't forget about Desire X port That'll be my favorite
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Don't forget about Desire X port That'll be my favorite
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If someone can extract the ROM.zip from it lol
I guess this is where the senior members step up
Like what's happening now, people new to deving are releasing stuff
We learn a lot from xda, a year ago I would not have thought I would be in the possession on a new device ruu trying to port it
our device isn't dead, its just starting to show its age. I am here until may next year haha
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If someone can extract the ROM.zip from it lol
I guess this is where the senior members step up
Like what's happening now, people new to deving are releasing stuff
We learn a lot from xda, a year ago I would not have thought I would be in the possession on a new device ruu trying to port it
our device isn't dead, its just starting to show its age. I am here until may next year haha
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Would also love to try but I'm too busy right now to do anything... school, drivers licence, more school and also I just bought FIFA 13 yesterday This stuff keeps me away from being more active on xda, but I still do my part by making banners, sigs and stuff esp for Nik right now Good enough
Can't just some random dev rise up from us and port this Desire X ROM? Man you would be treated like Jesus! Or at least his little unknown brother
why not to ask NIK for help
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Would also love to try but I'm too busy right now to do anything... school, drivers licence, more school and also I just bought FIFA 13 yesterday This stuff keeps me away from being more active on xda, but I still do my part by making banners, sigs and stuff esp for Nik right now Good enough
Can't just some random dev rise up from us and port this Desire X ROM? Man you would be treated like Jesus! Or at least his little unknown brother
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Hello,
Why you not simply ask Nik's help for porting the Desire X
if you don't have much time
ahmadx said:
Hello,
Why you not simply ask Nik's help for porting the Desire X
if you don't have much time
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I'm not a dev but I just would have given it a try if I had the time... Nik is actually busy by PX Transformer. Also his first One X ROM. And of course he has a life, too with personal stuff and he even goes to Milan soon So he has got enough work by now. And I guess he still didn't got his new IncS from our hero fjordell (sry if written wrong) since shipping can take time.
For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
I remember the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012"... it was ugly, didn't even want to visit the site half the time. But things are looking up and I'm glad I didn't return my vivid thirty days after the release date like so many did.
homeslice976 said:
For those of you that have been around these parts for a while, you may remember the State of Development updates that good ol' Gsleon3 used to update us with. These came for us at a time when development for the Vivid seemed to be at a standstill, and for those of you that were here, you remember why. For those of you who don't, let me catch you up a little (and I apologize for the bad feelings that this may drum up, but I don't want anything to get out of control again). So grab a beer and a snack, this may be a long one
It was about April, and development for the Holiday was still in its infancy. There were a few good ROMs being released, and generally, it was a good place to be. Then accusations of stealing other's work, accusations of corrupt moderators, and all around child-like behavior started, and it became the downfall of the Holiday forum at XDA. ROM threads started closing. Then came the bickering. Then the Devs left. Then the users began to play the blame game, and the "let me try to whine my way to what I want" game. All the best devs left and opened up shop in their own little corners of the internet (and I can't blame them one bit), and development for the device was no longer centralized. There were/are still AWESOME ROMs available for this device, just not on XDA. This always made me a little sad. As painful of a place as XDA (or any internet forum for that matter) can be at times, there's sooooo much good information crammed into one site that it has always been my one-stop shop, but that wasn't true any longer. I settled in, I found a home, but I kept a close eye on what else was happening across the interweb's Holiday community. I liked to keep my eye on one project specifically, synergy's CM10 project, because who wouldn't want JellyBean, right?
Now, a little more information for those of you who weren't around.. The original CM10 thread was opened at another site in July, where the project started. Syn put a lot of time and effort into it, but in the end, found it to be not worth his time to continue on a project he didn't see possible to ever be finished (mainly due to the ATT in-call mic issue and video issues), and again, who can blame him? He abandoned the project at the beginning of August. This is where mg picked the project up, and continued it with a few fixes himself, before somehow we caught the attention of h8rift. h8 has been awesome - cleaning up our trees, getting things in their proper home, and powering through anything that gets in his way It's so great to have him around.
Myself, up until October, had only ever had experience with things like making boot animations, icons, editing .xmls in .apks, and some slight .smali edits. Thanks to mg's excellent guide and a crapton of Googling, I learned out how to compile/build cm from source. Then I thought, "I wonder if I could do the same for other JB flavors?" So guess what? I tried, and it worked. Every single question I had along the way (with the exception of a few Ubuntu and git specific questions), were answered by a thread here at XDA. Cool, right?
I am very excited to see new ROMage out for this device...as I'm sure anyone who was here through the "Great Holiday Wars of 2012" would agree, I was pretty sure what we had was all we were ever going to see. Which again, would have been OK, cause there are some great ROMs out there, but I've never been the kind of dude to settle in on the same ROM for too long - that's why I came to XDA in the first place. Now as I'm sure everyone can see, through collaboration, this project is making HUGE progress! I cannot thank mg and h8 enough for keeping it going. This brings me to my last point...
I encourage everyone to participate, and offer suggestions, and share information - that is, after all, what a developer's forum should be about. The wealth of knowledge that's available at XDA is out of this world, but sometimes hiding deep within the threads, filled by off-topic chatter and users who have way to huge a sense of entitlement. Please always keep in mind that the things you're getting here are free. Hours upon hours upon hours of work go into these projects, just to be shared for very little asked in return. Wait, we ask for something in return? Yes - READ, SEARCH, and SEARCH AGAIN before posting. Like I said, there's already a wealth of knowledge here that's incomparable to other Android forums on the web, but yes, sometimes it can be trying to find that information. But it's not impossible. Also - keep an eye on the issues list. There are bugs. There will probably always be bugs. And as long as there are, they will continue to be squished to the best of our ability (though h8's ability is far beyond mine, so let's especially be nice to him )
In closing - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let this place become what it was before. So far I feel like the atmosphere around here has been a lot better, but I know how easy it can be for it to slip back to where it was. So be respectful, don't ask for ETAs, and be thankful for what we have - cause what we now have is a TON more options that we had before.
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I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
I got my vivid in april lol. when did the "wars" start? didnt really get into xda until like may or july
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Right before that...I got my vivid in late may I think and that was when the blame game was going around lol...wasn't pretty
Could not agree more with the op, lets be thankful for what we now have...and hopeful for what's to come
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seems like I got my vivid after all this happend. Got it off craigslist since I was switching from cricket
Well said homeslice. Although I haven't been as active in my participation I got the Vivid on day 1 and am really happy to see development where it is today. There were many points I thought the device was basically dead and time and time again it was revived with new life. Hopefully the few left can make sure not to repeat drama mistakes of the past.
And great job on going from a reader to a developer, very well done.
Why is my xda premium app only let me reply/post on certain sections of forums and not development??:banghead:
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Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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homeslice976 said:
Random. But how many posts do you have? Until you have 10, you won't be able to post I. Development
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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i think is not fair to close a wip thread to bring a sense 4 rom to the vivid all i wanted to do is help this device users to be on the latest software as i said in the post that was closed i wasn't going to share it to everybody i want it to share it to developers to bring this rom to all users but it got closed for "kanging" which i think is not true since venom team never released a vivid rom even thou the did for rezound which is pretty similar device but cdma and korean's make their work on the rom also to make the radio work which no body here in xda could do after many tries all i want is to help the community and specific this device owners which expect more from this device and we know is capable of running this system and much more please let the development continue we are stuck right know on sense only because someone doesn't want to share their work on other devices which is ok if you are the developer of something and you don't want to share but why stop someone who is trying to help on a device you haven't released a rom I bet that many of the vivid users would like to flash a sense 4.1 rom on their devices
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In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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i had been given a link to a rom port of venom rom for the htc vivid with sense 4 and your mods in it but it is the only rom that has sense 4 for the vivid i would like your permission to post it in vivid section since it is your work the only problem is that it was made in korea and the installer script and aroma is in korean language please think about it there are so many vivid users that would like to use sense 4 on their devices thanks for your time!!
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Sorry but we don't approve of the use of our work by non-team members and do not condone the porting of any of our roms to other devices for various reasons. One of those reasons is these roms will never meet the same level of quality and support our users have become accustomed to as such, these roms will never be allowed on xda and will also be refused Venom Hub access.
Turge
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Can it be used as a base at least since it has a working ril?
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That would be the same as porting
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Ok thanks for the time you took to answer my request!!
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Sorry it's not the answer you're looking for but we run into these request every day along with unauthorized ports.
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Don't worry i understand perfect the situation
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Turge said:
In what part of this conversation with you this morning @ 8:01 AM was I not clear about? Would you care to elaborate??
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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Btw, we're not trying to be the bad guys here... We're simply trying to protect our property. Perhaps the best way for you to achieve your objective is to reach out to the kangers to find out how they managed to port it over to your device...
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That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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This all sounds familiar...the point of this thread...
Let's just drop it. The villec2 should get its jellybean sense+ update soon, and maybe we can port it. Or maybe we can get the Koreans to share their secret. In the meantime, it appears to be elsewhere, so get it there if you must
JEANRIVERA said:
That's exactly what I want but there is a language barrier, instead of releasing could you try to make it legit here with your team? Please I know there are really good developers and they can find how to make it legit is all I ask I do not want to make an issue out of trying to help others with this device, this device is capable of running this Rom flawless just like the one x or rezound which in fact is is the same device but cdma could you help us or assign this port to one of your team members?
Or if none of you has the vivid let a vivid developer take care of it please we have really good developers here to!!
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
Let's not start more xda drama the vivid forum has already been thru this. Either find someone who speaks Korean to ask to translate or have them remove all of their tweaks like they ask. The vivid has come to far now to start drama over a sense 4 ROM
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So, the options are:
1. We remove all of our tweaks from the framework files of a kanged port of one of our roms so that you can use it as a base
2. You find a Korean translator to ask the one who got data working how he did it.
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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I'm not been sarcastic please help the vivid users to get a sense 4 Rom up and running if you can remove your framework from it that would be awesome to use it as a base I know you and your team are great developers I'm using your viper Rom on my wifes phone and I am really impressed with what you guys have done, I never wanted to start a war here or elsewhere all I want to do is give the sense 4 option to vivid owners like me!! I'm really sorry I have caused any issues.
Happy New year to everybody !!!! I hope this mess get resolved soon !!!
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You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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Turge said:
You don't understand the work effort in removing our tweaks from the framework so you'll need to follow up with the Koreans.
And I honestly hope we don't see any more links to this kang roms, either here or on rootzwiki.
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I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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I do understand, I'm sorry if it was to much to ask I also understand that you and your team can be mad because of my actions, it won't happen again I'm really sorry
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Time to find some Koreans!
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Time to find some Koreans!
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I tried to contact bananacakes but he hasn't responded yet
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This is not a rant or a moan or whatever you want to call it. This is just clearing a few things up after the last few days what i have been reading on the forum.
Firstly support for N4 will still be there after this update, and i am sure we have at least one more major update to come for our beloved device. People saying that our phone will be next are just talking rubbish. People all over the forum are crying thinking that our device will be next. Until a confirmation from Google can people please stop with the conspiracy theories.
Also regarding with the launcher. Now i am not that really bothered if it gets released or not as i do not use Google Now. But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
I love my phone and i do not see a reason why i should upgrade to the Nexus 5. I do not want though people in the forum to start moaning about things that are not official yet from the God itself which is Google. Yes they are not perfect but until the actual release gets to our device and we have things missing then fine all hell can break lose.
Oh and one last thing. Yes am gutted that we not got the update soon as the release came out but we are still the first to get it were other mega devices are not getting it at least December or Xmas the earliest..So am still thankful for the Nexus line. But that will start not meaning anything soon anyway if they carry this new strategy of there to put money first before anything else.
But till then please take a chill pill people.
This will get shut down and deleted am sure but i just wanted people to read this and seriously take it easy till there is ACTUAL CONFIRMATION by GOOGLE THEMSELVES..
Mods sorry if this should not be here but sometimes a man has enough when reading through the forums and having whiny kids whine all the time.
And to add...We are XDA...If things go missing and are not included in the build that our beloved N4 should get then people trust our great and respectful Developers here who are if you do not mind me saying better than those at Google..We will have those features that the N5 has and if not should be better build than stock...So please show your support for our devs and less whining and help this place for newbies instead of moaning all the time about something that has not been confirmed yet
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
Ignasiuz said:
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
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exactly my friend. until something has been confirmed i do not understand why people are panicking. and by the next update which will be by summer time our phone should be more than capable to handle it and i am sure we are in for that to. phones should have a support from the OS development team ie Google at least maximum two years...so why are people are stressed is beyond me.
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
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Sure there is confirmation. It is not included in the Nexus 7 WiFi KitKat update. And Google confirmed it with The Verge and said it is possible they will bring it to other devices other than the N5 someday but not initially.
Great post OP.. You know what I think it is? Purely my opinion after mulling over how absolutely weird the 4.4 rollout and release has been.
Ever been in a corporate environment where someone important is replaced? It's hell.. JBQ left and was replaced.. So here you have a new guy who is pulling the old corporate "I'm new and have to flex my superiority and change things to make it look like I'm doing something different and being productive" (ie: Fishing for his next promotion).. This happens in nearly every business.. It's hilarious to watch happen in real life because most employees know it's coming.. 3 months later after everyone hates the new guy and his useless changes everything goes right back to the way it was. I'm certain all the rumblings this is causing is being heard..
This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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No please, not again.
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forever_lol said:
No please, not again.
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Its called discussion. If you do not want to participate then don't post. Hence why the other thread got closed
Cause useless posts like yours
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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It has to do with the Ti core not being supported anymore. Also, not being supported by Ti did not meant it doesn't work for Galaxy Nexus, just means Google would not support a device without former support to its hardware.
Anyways, Galaxy Nexus got 4.4 already, go Install it
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion will be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and closed. Good luck though
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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It is not about getting many thanks..To be honest got enough already as it is. Now moving on
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This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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Notice the GSM/LTE tablets haven't got an update yet either...
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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To be honest the reason why i opened this thread is to get my opinion about the many things that i have read on the forum. Many false information that is going around by others is beyond ridiculous because they listen to tech sites most of them without any proper confirmation by Google itself...Now as to regarding the updates that are coming for our device if there is an official changelog by Google to say what are the changes from the older nexus devices compare to the N5 then i will eat my hat if it is out already stating what we are getting and missing out on..
But again people forget that XDA is here to help..Hence why we should not be ranting and raving
What am trying to say is that i want this thread to stick to a proper adult discussion about our device regarding the build that we should get..And i do not want people to give mis-information till we get it from the Big Boss itself
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I can understand your point here OP but, the purpose of forums such as this one is to allow for open discussion on a topic. I see no issue with speculation or assumption as long as people keep their heads. That is, after all, what makes things interesting and keeps people intrigued. If we went purely on the facts at hand 100% of the time, discussions would end fairly quickly and most forums would be desolate places.
Just my .02
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Soooooooooooooooooooo.......I am a patient person and I'm sorry I'm relying on others for this but w.e the point is every1 seems to be coming out with h multiple kitkat ROMs for certain devices...........maybe Devs should stop trying to produce an already produced ROM for devices like nexus, galaxy, htc and such and maybe focus on other devices........devices that actually NEED an update.......lik the NC? W.e I just see no interest in the nc on xda anymore. God I wsh I knew how to do this. Learn u say. Well that would take too long. On app, so not sure of the rules and where to post. But considering its dead most of the time lol hopefully I won't get banned. My point is its ridiculous considering the majority of people don't even have these hi end devices and I think its selfish for the focus to just be on these devices. Impo. Some1 start it up plz. And stop stalling.
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And for the devs that the first thing out of there mouth is its so easy, build it yourself........wellllllll if its so easy then just do it and post it. Thousands if not mills use the ROMs. So feel free to continue to be selfish. Sry for the gruf. But it needed to be said.
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It has been a long standing tradition in the nook color community to not release binary build of new android versions for a few months. This allows all the bugs to be worked out by the devs before anyone else has access. At least one person bricked their nook on the ics or jb alpha builds, so this tradition is to protect from that. This also encourages end users to get into the development scene. I myself am going to be building my own cm11 over Christmas break and am going to be building for my phone, all because of this tradition. So quit complaining that nobody gives you what you want and build it yourself. Who knows, maybe you will keep this device alive after all the other devs have left because you built cm11 yourself.
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NO DUH
weldawadyathink said:
It has been a long standing tradition in the nook color community to not release binary build of new android versions for a few months. This allows all the bugs to be worked out by the devs before anyone else has access. At least one person bricked their nook on the ics or jb alpha builds, so this tradition is to protect from that. This also encourages end users to get into the development scene. I myself am going to be building my own cm11 over Christmas break and am going to be building for my phone, all because of this tradition. So quit complaining that nobody gives you what you want and build it yourself. Who knows, maybe you will keep this device alive after all the other devs have left because you built cm11 yourself.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EXACTLY THE TYPE OF SELFISH PERSON I WAS REFERRING TO IN MY OPENING STATEMENT. thx for yet again tellin me to build it myself. :highfive:
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^EXACTLY THE TYPE OF SELFISH PERSON I WAS REFERRING TO IN MY OPENING STATEMENT. thx for yet again tellin me to build it myself. :highfive:
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He tries to explain it to you in a civilized tone and you insult him. You are not going to get any dev help with that tone.
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And for the devs that the first thing out of there mouth is its so easy, build it yourself........wellllllll if its so easy then just do it and post it. Thousands if not mills use the ROMs. So feel free to continue to be selfish. Sry for the gruf. But it needed to be said.
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It is easy to compile cyanogenmod, but what stops you from doing it? For the first few months when a new rom comes out, the developers make it so only DEVELOPERS AND BUGTESTERS can have at it, and see what bugs there are, and what improvements they can add to the code. This is meant for the common user(YOU) to install the rom, and have no(maybe some) problems from when they first boot the rom. From then on more bug fixes are made, and the rom becomes stable for daily use. Experimental roms can be extremely dangerous, and can even brick an entire device(Anyone here remember the AOSP incident with Mateorod?)
And please next time you rant, try to use proper grammar, and using slang doesn't really help your point very much.
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God I wsh I knew how to do this. Learn u say. Well that would take too long.
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Learn i say, and do it yourself.
Why aren't you complaining to the manufacturer?
Why are you so demanding from people who are developing by hobby and they make their work available for free?
Try to answer these questions and then you will understand why people are saying to do it yourself.
Thread closed as it doesn't serve any real purpose rather than ranting about an area that you are not experienced with.