My galaxy gear has Null 22.1 installed, stock launcher running, no full ui. Cpu and governor options are set to the default. Min is at 200 max at 600. My gear has not been worn, but it does receive bluetooth notifications for calls, sms and gmail. In 4 hours it will have been 3 full days and my battery is currently at 35%. I assume the battery life would be worse if I was wearing it all day.
What tips does everyone have to squeeze the most life out of this?
- Is the default cpu and governor options the best to use?
- Is 200 min/600 max the best combination for cpu?
- In battery manager 66% says phone idle, 12% screen, 11% android system, 2% bluetooth, is that the optimum thing to see?
- I have brightness set at level 3, is 3 the optimum?
- Are there apps that should be removed that could add extra battery life?
One of the biggest battery killers of all is the wake on motion function.
I was thinking of flashing null v19!so that would use the stcck kernel 800mhz instead of the duel core I think this affects battery life a lot but I can't find null 19 anyone knows where I can get it.
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One of the biggest battery killers of all is the wake on motion function.
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Yup if you dont use that function with null 22.1 it will sip battery.
I turned that function off yesterday before work as a test and im still at 100% 18 hours later. I dont have bluetooth tether on either right now.Testing what the battery is like with that on today.
The current version is null 22.1 not 19. I assume the dual core is off by default or else it would crush the battery. Can anyone confirm that?
No duel core is always on its in the new triangulam kernel I find stock 800mhz has much better batterylife but null 19 was the last firmware with stock kernel that's why I am trying to source it.
Wow then you are right we all need that. We should be able to flash a kernel in TWRP instead of having to downgrade to Null 22.1. At least you can on any other device in clockwork or TWRP
I don't see the reasoning behind going to 19 for this kernel.... everyone agrees that 22.1 is much better on battery life than 19 was...
you could use the kernel from 19 on 22.1 I guess... but I would think that the ROM is set up to use the new kernel better now so that might not be a good idea either.
If I have the wrist motion off i never go below 90% battery in a day at work now (with it on i stay above 80%), does it really need to be any better than that?
The only thing we were looking for was a way to turn that second core off to test battery life.
I tested time and time again I am back on stock now and battery life is much better the watch was never designed for duel core use even though it can use it.What lets it down is the battery too small if we could get some undervolting going things could be different starve the CPU bare min to save battery life.
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I tested time and time again I am back on stock now and battery life is much better the watch was never designed for duel core use even though it can use it.What lets it down is the battery too small if we could get some undervolting going things could be different starve the CPU bare min to save battery life.
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Im going on 24 hours on battery half that is bluetooth tether. Right now im sitting at 69%
care to share what your settings/apps loaded are?
i've reflashed without gapps,turned off motion, but with BT connected (non tethered) i can't last more than 5 hours. Is your BT always connected
i do have FBQuickview app enabled so i get FB updates but even without that i was not lasting too long
QUOTE=carajean;50530689]Im going on 24 hours on battery half that is bluetooth tether. Right now im sitting at 69%[/QUOTE]
My best is 15 hours but that is with bluetooth on all the time, with GPS bluetooth going, and tablet talk and google voice being used regularly. I would like a little better life but that is good enough to make it on an average dsy at work.
Although my battery life is nothing to brag about, when others are getting multiple days of use, in the spirit of the original post for tips:
Disable Watch Styler and use a standard clock theme. Apparently, custom watch faces eat up the battery quicker than a stock theme.
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As the title states, whats your average battery life?
Myself, I barely see the day out and my usage isn't as heavy as it could be, low calls and texts, low use of whats app, two hours of music and half an hour of gaming (candy crush) on the way to work, I get to around 8 o'clock and i'm on low battery, so thats about 13 hours, with an average of 2 hours screen time, which i wouldn't mind but i'm actively trying to save battery with little luck.
Had the HTC One now since release, my only real gripe these days is the battery life, i've eliminated pretty much anything else I can think of which may cause drain, I use:
autostarts
power saver
I switch off wireless controls when not in use
I have my brightness on low ish
I avoid ad supported apps like the plague
I have 2 email addresses one yahoo on manual sync and gmail which i leave alone.
Blink feed only has facebook and gaming linked.
I don't use any task managers besides the one thats are built in.
I have very few active widgets and no unwanted bloat at all.
I'm running viper rom, with elemental kernel at 1.7Ghz with the appropriate radio.
I'm rooted, s-off, red writing removed.
I've tried better battery stats and as far as i can see there aren't any wakelocks, could be me doing it wrong though?
Any input and answers to battery life length would be great
Cheers.
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because of that ^^
I have a problem with my battery, let's say that I recently installed infinirom but without the removelaucher. There are now three days since I installed it but I notice that the phone has a significant consumption.
Not how to improve the durability, I use the greenfy and sd maid and many other small methods, (how to get up to max of 30/20 charge and then recharge 100), I did immediately after the installation of the rom battery calibration once.
At this point I do not know what to do, I have to change rom and istallarne a new or take other measures?
Help me = (
My battery life is now, for example 20h duration on screen with less than 3h
riccim said:
I have a problem with my battery, let's say that I recently installed infinirom but without the removelaucher. There are now three days since I installed it but I notice that the phone has a significant consumption.
Not how to improve the durability, I use the greenfy and sd maid and many other small methods, (how to get up to max of 30/20 charge and then recharge 100), I did immediately after the installation of the rom battery calibration once.
At this point I do not know what to do, I have to change rom and istallarne a new or take other measures?
Help me = (
My battery life is now, for example 20h duration on screen with less than 3h
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Something is draining your battery alot.
Mine last atleast 6+ hours on screen.
- Go install betterbatterystats and then check up on it after a day too see if something constantly wake's your phone. then eliminate it!
- Go into applications in settings and disable everything you dont use example: (car mode, google maps,tags,nfc,) you can always enable them when you need them.
- You could also get a cpu manager so you can clock down the cpu. 2 ghz havent been a need for me, only with high graphics games. 1600 mhz is running all smooth too!
totex71 said:
Something is draining your battery alot.
Mine last atleast 6+ hours on screen.
- Go install betterbatterystats and then check up on it after a day too see if something constantly wake's your phone. then eliminate it!
- Go into applications in settings and disable everything you dont use example: (car mode, google maps,tags,nfc,) you can always enable them when you need them.
- You could also get a cpu manager so you can clock down the cpu. 2 ghz havent been a need for me, only with high graphics games. 1600 mhz is running all smooth too!
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ok i t'll try the batterystas and i'm checking the apps wake or olther, thanks =)
I'm at the end of my rope struggling with this battery. My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours and I cannot seem to improve that. I've tried everything. Romming, disabling everything, running clean installs, no apps, etc. I think I've wiped this phone more than my..... Probably 10 times trying to improve this battery life. In 2 weeks.
I have wugs kit installed. I will match your settings, I will go appless, I'll root, remove stock apps, I'll do whatever you tell me to. I don't want to go back to my z3 but I need some decent sot in my life.
Just looking for one person with stellar battery life and a little bit of time.
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I'm at the end of my rope struggling with this battery. My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours and I cannot seem to improve that. I've tried everything. Romming, disabling everything, running clean installs, no apps, etc. I think I've wiped this phone more than my..... Probably 10 times trying to improve this battery life. In 2 weeks.
I have wugs kit installed. I will match your settings, I will go appless, I'll root, remove stock apps, I'll do whatever you tell me to. I don't want to go back to my z3 but I need some decent sot in my life.
Just looking for one person with stellar battery life and a little bit of time.
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3.5 to 4 hours sot? or the battery in general even the phone is sleep?
My average sot is 3.5 to 4 hours.
You borrowing someone else's settings isn't going to do anything because everybody uses their phone differently. Just because you get 3.5 - 4 hours of sot doesn't mean anything because your cellular signal is going to be different to other users, the better cellular signal you have the less battery it'll drain (and vice versa), if you're on WiFi all day then your battery life will be better.
As a good start, I'd recommend getting a app such as BetterBatteryStats to check for any apps that can be causing wakelocks.
Flash a custom kernel such as LeanKernel and underclock the phone's CPU/GPU frequency while disabling mpdecision.
Download App Ops (unless your ROM has it embedded) and deny permission to "Keep Awake" for Google Play Services. Google Play Services drain battery when having Keep Awake permission.
I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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You're not listening to what I said. You cannot just borrow someone's settings, it doesn't work that way because there is no universal setting that works for everybody. Perform the two other battery tips that I've mentioned.
Flash LeanKernel B10 and disable mpdecision and underclocking your CPU/GPU frequencies to a lower clock such as 1.5 GHz max CPU and 389 max GPU will help significantly as well as the Google Play Services permission deny as well as lowering screen off max freq to 960MHz or 1.2GHz.
Using black/dark backgrounds help as well since N6 is a AMOLED screen. Whites consume more battery, disable ambient display as well.
Don't use Gapps that include all the Google bloatware with Google+ etc. If you have BBS, then you aren't looking at it right. You need to look at partial wakelocks as well as alarms.
Greenify helps with apps that you need but consume a lot of battery (e.g. Facebook)
Disable sync for Google for the apps you don't need.
Make refresh interval for your apps longer or refresh manually (e.g. Twitter, weather apps)
FMMFL said:
I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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4 hours of sot is not bad. Mine is the same as you. The only thing that made me not returning that phone is the fast charging. This thing is fast I had a note 4 and it was not charging fast like this one. So battery is not a problem for me when I can put my phone on the charger for 15 min and get 50%.
zephiK said:
You're not listening to what I said. You cannot just borrow someone's settings, it doesn't work that way because there is no universal setting that works for everybody. Perform the two other battery tips that I've mentioned.
Flash LeanKernel B10 and disable mpdecision and underclocking your CPU/GPU frequencies to a lower clock such as 1.5 GHz max CPU and 389 max GPU will help significantly as well as the Google Play Services permission deny as well as lowering screen off max freq to 960MHz or 1.2GHz.
Using black/dark backgrounds help as well since N6 is a AMOLED screen. Whites consume more battery, disable ambient display as well.
Don't use Gapps that include all the Google bloatware with Google+ etc. If you have BBS, then you aren't looking at it right. You need to look at partial wakelocks as well as alarms.
Greenify helps with apps that you need but consume a lot of battery (e.g. Facebook)
Disable sync for Google for the apps you don't need.
Make refresh interval for your apps longer or refresh manually (e.g. Twitter, weather apps)
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Thanks for your help.
I've installed lean kernel b10, installed appops (and disabled gp services wake), disabled google syncs I don't use, underclocked CPU/GPU to your recommended values with kernel tweaker, installed a pure black wallpaper. But I do not see where I disable mpdecision.
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Thanks for your help.
I've installed lean kernel b10, installed appops (and disabled gp services wake), disabled google syncs I don't use, underclocked CPU/GPU to your recommended values with kernel tweaker, installed a pure black wallpaper. But I do not see where I disable mpdecision.
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You have to use a app such as trickster mod which you can find it on the play store. Set the cpu gpu mpdecision as well as other kernel settings there.
Don't forget to flash the set min mpdecision zip from the lean thread so the gpu cpu frequencies stick.
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I've tried bbs, even posted logs in the main battery thread, but nothing ever sticks out.
I've tried lean kernel on rasta rom. That's how I got the actual four hours. I'm also on wifi all day, every day. Probably 99% total time is on wifi.
But right now my phone is a clean slate and I'm looking to borrow settings.
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on wifi is when i get my worst battery life. wifi is like your network signal quality, it can be great quality, and it could be lousy quality. the worse the quality of your wifi signal, the worse your battery will be, no matter what. not using, i can lose 10-15% battery on wifi in about an hour. yes, not doing anything with the phone at all. on my network signal, i easily get 6h+ sot a cycle. so, repeating, your issue is probably your wifi.
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on wifi is when i get my worst battery life. wifi is like your network signal quality, it can be great quality, and it could be lousy quality. the worse the quality of your wifi signal, the worse your battery will be, no matter what. not using, i can lose 10-15% battery on wifi in about an hour. yes, not doing anything with the phone at all. on my network signal, i easily get 6h+ sot a cycle. so, repeating, your issue is probably your wifi.
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Interesting. What kind of router are you using? I have a netgear R6300 which has been solid in every other aspect of wifi.
I had my sim out of my phone yesterday while I used my Z3 and noticed, when I picked it up later in the day, it had used about 1% every three hours. This was turned on, connected to wifi, with my usual apps running. So it seems like my problem would be the opposite. Seems like I run into issues once I pop my sim into it.
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Interesting. What kind of router are you using? I have a netgear R6300 which has been solid in every other aspect of wifi.
I had my sim out of my phone yesterday while I used my Z3 and noticed, when I picked it up later in the day, it had used about 1% every three hours. This was turned on, connected to wifi, with my usual apps running. So it seems like my problem would be the opposite. Seems like I run into issues once I pop my sim into it.
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well, then your wifi is much better than what i have around, for sure. what do you keep your brightness at? that could also make a huge difference in battery life. i keep mine around 15-20%. if i raise it to about 40-45%, ill get about an hour less screen on time.
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well, then your wifi is much better than what i have around, for sure. what do you keep your brightness at? that could also make a huge difference in battery life. i keep mine around 15-20%. if i raise it to about 40-45%, ill get about an hour less screen on time.
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Yeah I definitely wouldn't suspect the wifi at this point but I will try to run tomorrow without it to see if anything changes.
I usually have my brightness around 40% but today it is down closer to 25% while I test the changes I've made.
Hi people,
Can someone give me and opinion of the battery drain with a note 9 on pie?
I bought my Note 9 four days ago and updated to 9.0 pie right out of the box, I think that battery is still optimizing for usage but I find it very bad with battery life and SoT. I'm posting a screenshot, if you have some tips ?
I'm with exynos, 50% brightness display, exynos version, Bluetooth off
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Hi people,
Can someone give me and opinion of the battery drain with a note 9 on pie?
I bought my Note 9 four days ago and updated to 9.0 pie right out of the box, I think that battery is still optimizing for usage but I find it very bad with battery life and SoT. I'm posting a screenshot, if you have some tips
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You answered your own question! Battery is still optimizing for usage! You have to give it 10 or so days before it battery gets better! Also turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, 4G, Sync, turn the screen off turn everything off lol messing with you 2/3 weeks mine took to settle down!
I'm having the same problem. Android System was waaaaay lower before. It's always at the top of the list now. :/
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I'm having the same problem. Android System was waaaaay lower before. It's always at the top of the list now. :/
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Please can someone give a tip to make Android system's drain lower?
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Please can someone give a tip to make Android system's drain lower?
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There's plenty that can be done, especially if you have the exynos version of the phone.
-Unlock bootloader and install Dr Ketan's rom, it is fantastic.
-Then apply endurance kernel.
-Use Magisk manager to apply module: Universal GMS Doze
-Use Mtweaks to apply a few kernel tweaks
I haven't gone this far just yet as I'd like to see how the phone goes without it for a few weeks but you can also install greenify or if you want to really get serious, greenify xposed module. Personally I find the battery life of the note9 to be fantastic but you must keep in mind that the screen is enormous and hi-resolution. Whenever you are using the screen, especially at a high brightness level the battery is going to drain - it can't run on good intentions.
Try turning down the brightness. If you are absolutely serious about battery life over everything else, you can disable auto-sync, remove the official facebook apps if you have them and replace them with faceslim and lite messenger and modify the notification settings.
Doing all of the above and only turning the phone on when you need to make a phone call or use navigation etc should net you an easy 4 days+ of useage but then again, you may as well have bought a $30 powerbank phone.
Tripping Knox hardly sounds like a good idea if I'm honest.
If your Android System is high then something in the background is wrong. You could try clearing cache then give the phone a couple days to settle
Battery life varies significantly with any phone and any version of Android.
Often we assume, wrongly in my opinion that a very large factor in battery life is the version of Android , hence the numerous posts on this forum who wish to or have gone back to Oreo, for reasons I consider delusional.
What apps you have on your phone and how often you use them are significant, playing games that use lots of cpu and gpu is going to impact battery life.
Web browser and YouTube rather less so.
I have experienced lower and higher screen on time and standby time with the same apps and version of Oreo, and Pie (both on beta and released)
I am on Exynos Note 9
Bought and used since release date Aug 24 2018, haven't used so called battery life friendly charging (20% to 80% etc)
Can run battery down to 0% on occasion and charge to 100% using fast charge, often left on charge overnight.
Yes there are some optimisation that may help and I use a few, I couldn't tell how much they help though as just varying usage is a greater factor in my opinion
Battery performance from yesterday
18.5 hours total usage with 9.25 hours screen on time
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
bandario said:
Morning all.
Something that has been slightly bothering me since I got this phone....it has a massive battery, it can be heavily customised with roms, xposed modules, magisk modules and all manner of tweaks. Probably one of the most open and dev-friendly devices I've ever had.
Yet, no matter what I do the only way I have ever been able to get more than 2 days out of a battery is to literally not use the phone.
I have had devices in the past such as Xperia Z3 Compact, S7 Active and others with smaller battery that were easily able to push 3 days with regular use. Hell, the Z3C was able to get up to 5 days with a little bit of trickery turning off radios when not in use etc.
Is the extra diagonal inch of screen realestate really enough to destroy the battery longevity? Typically with normal usage I am seeing 2 days with about 4.5 hours of screen-on time.
I've experimented with just about everything to push this out including no official facebook apps, decreased resolution, medium power-saving mode, kernel tweaks (currently using TGP rom and kernel), auto-sync turned off. Going beyond this I feel like you may as well just use a push-button device.
Any devs care to comment? What is the main factor that eats the battery on the Note 9? Is the exynos processor just not that power-efficient? Am I missing some hidden gem?
I guess the next step would be to transition to an AOSP based rom where the customisation is not constrained by baked-in samsung features but again, this is giving up a lot including proper s-pen functionality.
I recently kitted out an LG V30+ for my wife and it is just insane to me that a phone which only has a 3300mah battery can get the same life as the Note9 or better.
Is there some strategy I have missed or is this really the best we can hope for? Seems like an extremely inefficient use of 4000mah to me.
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This is what you get when you use a high performance chip.
If it was like cars.. just because the gas tank is big (battery) doesn't mean that the engine won't consume the fuel faster than a more Efficient engine (cpu) with less power.
Other phones might be able to last 3 days, but they also dont have the performance capabilities. Turn on extreme power saving and see how long the phone lasts ...
I'm using stock unbranded ROM. I also adp uninstalled all the Facebook system apps (devil-ware). With Pie + OneUI + Night mode + Dark UI apps, it's the first time I love stock. I bet your non-stock ROM + TGP is the culprit.
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
gruuvin said:
I charge nightly on a wireless charge pad; easy on the battery. In Device Care, I run the default "Optimized" setting. I use it moderately for the first 12 hours of my working day (meetings phone calls), and I often have 85-90% charge left at that point. I then use the phone HEAVILY for the next 4 hours (watching video, reading, etc.), and at that point I am never below 50% (often 60-70) when I put it back on the charge pad, go to sleep, and start the whole thing over again. I have the US version (Snapdragon), darkmode and auto brightness is always on, and I use Automate to toggle my wifi off when not home and back on when home. Other than that, I have gps, bluetooth, and phone data always on. Bluetooth pairs with my watch and car, and gps auto-toggles by the kernel whenever I load maps or whenever my Life360 app updates my location (every few minutes).
That's all fairly normal use with a bit of power-savings thought into it. If you cannot get similar performance without your screen brightness jacked way up and wifi always on (that eats battery as you move around), then maybe you have a power-hungry app. Check your Device Care section of Settings, and start watching your "Usage by apps".
Also, it's better to slow-charge than fast-charge (wears it out more quickly). And you are better off charging nightly than waiting two days until it's very low.
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A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
Bober_is_a_troll said:
A lot of people don't realize the huge difference that your cellular connection strength makes a difference on your battery.
Try working in a all brick/stone bank building, where 250kb/s is a good 4g download speed... Then see what your battery looks like after a few hours.
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YEP!
And same goes for wifi.....
wifi and cell radios can really eat up battery if they are trying to maintain a connection in areas where wifi/phone signal is weak. And app like Tasker or Automate can toggle these on and off, depending on your location, and really save battery.
Well, that probably explains a few things. I moved in to a SOLID brick building recently with double glazing everywhere and multiple solid brick internal walls. First time I've ever battled for cell and wifi signal...that does explain a lot. I guess 2 days is still pretty good. Might end up with one of those 10,000mah Chinafones eventually ;p