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HTC One Camera - very blurry

I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?

Is the lens dirty or covered by anything? Try tapping the screen to focus. Do you have a sample to show us?
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mrkool444 said:
I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?
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The photos are grainy because of the ultra pixel system that they used in this camera. It is sort of a trade off really....in order to get those nice low light shots they had to devise a camera with larger light sensitive cells. It is like in the old film days when you used 1600 speed film for low light conditions but ended up with pictures that were super grainy. Same concept but now in digital form.

I know what the OP is talking about, this is a different issue than just having grainy pictures. Mine cannot seem to focus on anything more than 10 ft away. I'm attaching an example from a graduation last night. The focus was so bad that I will not using any of these pictures for anything.

And yes I tapped on the screen multiple times to get it to focus, this is what came out. I can replicate this basically anytime when taking pictures of anything kind of far away. It freaking sucks.

This is not due to not focusing or pics being slightly grainy
Im saying the pics are awful.. Way out of focus and look distorted, phone is only 3 days old so it's not a dirty lens
Taking this back to sprint today... Will update you guys on what they do for me..

I've had time where the front camera is blurry from smudges on the lens taking it out of my pocket. Wiping off the lens helps. It happens pretty frequently actually.
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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.

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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.
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I went to the sprint store yesterday and they exchanged it out for a new HTC one.
Same problem with the new one. Blurry images, out of focus objects, when you zoom in the images, they are too grainy/fuzzy.
I'm now beginning to understand that it's not a hardware problem, but just a bad camera on the HTC One.
I have been comparing pictures over the past 3 days from HTC One vs my 3 year old Galaxy S2 phone.
The galaxy s2 phone pictures are significantly more clear, crisp and more detailed.
The HTC One pictures are routinely blurry, noisy and just plain out of focus in certain areas.
The HTC one pictures look good when you look at them zoomed out...but when you pinch n zoom in, you begin to see fuzzy edges and blurred focus. This does not happen on my S2.
The S2 images are 3.5 MB with resolution of 3264x2448
The HTC one images are 2.17 MB with resolution of 2688x1520
So, clearly, the galaxy s2 pics are going to look better.
I love everything about the HTC one , but the camera is a total disappointment. I wish it was a hardware defect so I could swap it for a better unit, but I suppose that's just how it is

I am on badseed rom and I opened zip and replaced the camera.apk with the new one found in international roms and wiped and reflashed and my camera is 1000% better . The one I used is from cleanrom 2.0

Mine has been the same way and I use it a lot for work. I will try the different apk.

Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.

thronnos said:
Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.
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Not sure all I know is ever since I've had the phone (I've used stock, Viper, and badseed) it's been that way.

I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
It's like it only focuses in the center of the picture... everything around the center is blurry even if i touch the screen outside the center.
Here are some examples:

I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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gk1984 said:
I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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Still don't really understand the issue... Never had these problems with my GS3. And it really has nothing to do with background/foreground... Everything that is the same distance form the lens that is outside the center is blurry as %^#@.

I took another look outside the app at the pics. I think it's a shallow depth of field. Our camera is capable of a much lower f-stop than most others. The average consumer camera it around 3.5 f-stop for example. Until the HTC amaze, android phones never had an f-stop this low. I'm not sure what the galaxy's used though.
The pic of the signs tells me a lot that this is the case. Most people like this effect as it's artsy. The sign on the left is in focus and closer to the camera, the sign to the right is further away and not in focus. This is what depth of field is. Shallow depth of field is a smaller area in focus.
Now, I don't want to make excuses for HTC. The f-stop isn't a fixed number. It's supposed to be adjustable in cameras, we just may not have the option to. Try using landscape mode. That should keep everything in focus. This depth of field shouldn't be for every pic
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tkoreaper said:
I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
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If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.

themuffinman said:
If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.
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I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..

tkoreaper said:
I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..
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Oh ok, well I used root explorer to replace the apk and it worked just fine. Anyway I do see a difference with the newer apk.

New Camera for the M8

I love everything about this phone but, the camera sux. Hope HTC gives current M8 owners a special deal. I doubt it, lol
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/09/26/new-htc-one-m8-release-could-deliver-improved-camera/
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I'll pass, nothing wrong with my camera, higher Megapixels means larger file size. Pain in the ass trying to send pics through MMS. I'll wait for the M9, full glass screen looks sexy.

Once i cleaned that film off the lense the camera has been perfect.

My focus seems to lock on faster too after cleaning the lenses.
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I could have used the 13 megapixel camera the other day verses the 4 MP. Took a picture that I wanted to blow up poster sized that turned out grainy...
That is the one thing that I dislike about HTC, they keep releasing phone after phone after phone with additional features and functions. So when you paid for the latest and greatest you have outdated technology...

weidnerj said:
I could have used the 13 megapixel camera the other day verses the 4 MP. Took a picture that I wanted to blow up poster sized that turned out grainy...
That is the one thing that I dislike about HTC, they keep releasing phone after phone after phone with additional features and functions. So when you paid for the latest and greatest you have outdated technology...
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There is this other technology called a real camera if you wanted a poster size picture. Even with a 13 megapixel cellphone camera it is going to look grainy compared to a SLR camera.

benny3 said:
Once i cleaned that film off the lense the camera has been perfect.
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I did the same thing, one day the pics looked horrible then I read up on it and did the toothpaste and cotton swab trick and my pics have been great. Very strange how it went bad like that, but, as it was said the pictures for me do what I need.

Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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http://www.androidauthority.com/one-m8-eye-specs-price-535776/

robbo10 said:
Tooth paste with a cotton swab?.....hmmmm mite have to try that
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I personally had better luck with the corner of a credit card method. I tried the toothpaste and swab but I guess it wasn't gritty enough (not enough baking soda in the paste) or something. For me it just made the film on the lens worse, then I tried the credit card method and worked like a charm.
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I agree that the camera on this phone sucks. Looking forward to Nexus6.

schmeggy929 said:
There is this other technology called a real camera if you wanted a poster size picture. Even with a 13 megapixel cellphone camera it is going to look grainy compared to a SLR camera.
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Exactly. I don't know why people think higher megapixels = better pictures. This camera is fine to me.

ajones7279 said:
Exactly. I don't know why people think higher megapixels = better pictures. This camera is fine to me.
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+1 on this. Folks gotta keep in mind that the camers isnt an Olympus or a Nikon. Its a phone camera. There are alot of editing apps out there to make the pics you take with a phone much much better. I use SnapSeed for editing with some pretty impressive results.

The camera on this thing sucks. Period. The front camera is ridden with distortion as is the back camera. I have a pro camera as I am a photographer, howvwer I expect my phone that was advertised as having amazing camera. to at least take decent pics. It just doesn't. I do like take the occasional selfie, but never end up using it because there is just too much distortion. People say we expect too much from cell phone cameras. BS. I had a G2, it took excellent pics. As did all of my iPhones. This phones camera is a POS
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Success100 said:
The camera on this thing sucks. Period. The front camera is ridden with distortion as is the back camera. I have a pro camera as I am a photographer, howvwer I expect my phone that was advertised as having amazing camera. to at least take decent pics. It just doesn't. I do like take the occasional selfie, but never end up using it because there is just too much distortion. People say we expect too much from cell phone cameras. BS. I had a G2, it took excellent pics. As did all of my iPhones. This phones camera is a POS
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I honestly have no issue with the camera on this device. Ask the selfies I've taken turned it great. Maybe your camera lenses need to be cleaned?

I've had two m8's. Both have suffered from terrible distortion. Start your front camera and take a pic of yourself. Notice how if the camera Is on anything but the same plane as your face your head gets distorted. The top of your head looks stretched out, etc. There have been a lot of other people complainging about the distortion and that isn't caused by a dirty lens
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Success100 said:
I've had two m8's. Both have suffered from terrible distortion. Start your front camera and take a pic of yourself. Notice how if the camera Is on anything but the same plane as your face your head gets distorted. The top of your head looks stretched out, etc. There have been a lot of other people complainging about the distortion and that isn't caused by a dirty lens
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As a photographer you should know that even with a dslr you get distortion depending on focal length and lens.. You expect better from a front facing cell cam??I Don't personally use the front cam as I don't take selfies but rear cam has produced some great shots, but it's a cell phone so instagram is all that I use it for. Wouldn't dare pull it out to take pics of clients.
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ronniemayo said:
As a photographer you should know that even with a dslr you get distortion depending on focal length and lens.. You expect better from a front facing cell cam??I Don't personally use the front cam as I don't take selfies but rear cam has produced some great shots, but it's a cell phone so instagram is all that I use it for. Wouldn't dare pull it out to take pics of clients.
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You are absolutely right, but they also have in camera software that automatically corrects it under certain conditions. Or you fix it in post. Heck it also depends on the lens manufacturer. One lens can be 50mm with almost no distortion, the next 50mm lens could be riddled with distortion so it also depends on the lens you choose. Also with SLR cameras there a thousand lenses so it's a different ball game. This is one lens, one phone, one focal length, with absolutely repeatable results. That could not have been possibly been missed during the testing of this phone. If they wanted to keep costs low, understandable because it IS just a phone canera, but they could have easily compensated by fixing it in the cameras software It's bad enough to a point where I'm ready to switch devices... as much as I love this phone. If you don't take selfies that's fine, but for us that do, having your head elongated and your facial features distorted if the phone is not absolutely 100% perfectly parallel to your face is to me, absurd..considering there are a ton of other phones, similarly equipped camera wise, that do not suffer from this issue.
It boggles me. I can deal with a little distortion. However the distortion in the "selfie" camera is extreme. Ruins every shot. This should have been a situation in which during testing and software development, which IM SURE THEY EXPERIENCED, that they have put a script in there to fix the distortion. They knew they put a wide angle lens in the front camera assembly, and should have put the software fixes there to correct it, because every m8 experiences it (I've tried SEVERAL. and there are tons of complaints about it) Do I expect too much? NO! There are a thousand other camera phones that have wide front elements, that do NOT suffer from the same level of distortion, and if they do have it, they were smart enough to have the software fix it before it spits out the final picture to you. Flagship android device, ruined by a terrible front facing camera. My opinion
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Success100 said:
You are absolutely right, but they also have in camera software that automatically corrects it under certain conditions. Or you fix it in post. Heck it also depends on the lens manufacturer. One lens can be 50mm with almost no distortion, the next 50mm lens could be riddled with distortion so it also depends on the lens you choose. Also with SLR cameras there a thousand lenses so it's a different ball game. This is one lens, one phone, one focal length, with absolutely repeatable results. That could not have been possibly been missed during the testing of this phone. If they wanted to keep costs low, understandable because it IS just a phone canera, but they could have easily compensated by fixing it in the cameras software It's bad enough to a point where I'm ready to switch devices... as much as I love this phone. If you don't take selfies that's fine, but for us that do, having your head elongated and your facial features distorted if the phone is not absolutely 100% perfectly parallel to your face is to me, absurd..considering there are a ton of other phones, similarly equipped camera wise, that do not suffer from this issue.
It boggles me. I can deal with a little distortion. However the distortion in the "selfie" camera is extreme. Ruins every shot. This should have been a situation in which during testing and software development, which IM SURE THEY EXPERIENCED, that they have put a script in there to fix the distortion. They knew they put a wide angle lens in the front camera assembly, and should have put the software fixes there to correct it, because every m8 experiences it (I've tried SEVERAL. and there are tons of complaints about it) Do I expect too much? NO! There are a thousand other camera phones that have wide front elements, that do NOT suffer from the same level of distortion, and if they do have it, they were smart enough to have the software fix it before it spits out the final picture to you. Flagship android device, ruined by a terrible front facing camera. My opinion
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Completely understand, and maybe that's why in the new phone models they went in a different direction with the front cam.
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG V10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Fuzzy and too much contrast
all pictures from front camera are fuzzy looking and facebook picture posts or videos are blurry and very poor quality. I come from Note 4 and I never saw this

Saw some shrooms...

a_ghost said:
all pictures from front camera are fuzzy looking and facebook picture posts or videos are blurry and very poor quality. I come from Note 4 and I never saw this
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I'm having this exact issue. My photos across all three cameras are blurry and full of noise. I have a G4 as well, and my photos come out perfect. Software glitch maybe?

...all of the cameras have lenses which are flush to the exterior
Try cleaning the lens' areas and make sure there are no protective films on them.
..just a thought
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clockcycle said:
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awesome, thanks for sharing.:good::good:

Excellent picture quality and camera software.

Very good for a Cell Phone.

Always love LG's camera.

Nothing to complain

Camera
The camera is about the only think i'm liking on this phone right now....

rsfellman said:
The camera is about the only think i'm liking on this phone right now....
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Do you enjoy Music and Audio?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/782706/lg-v10-new-ess-chipped-flagship-android-phone-from-lg

perfect

Couple of question
Hey guys!
I want to buy V10 this week
I would like to know
1.Is V10 in white color going to be dirty?
2.Will LG release stock roms?
3.Which one is better in auto mode?G4 or V10?
4.Is it worthy to buy V10 instead of G4?
What do u think should I buy G4?
sorry for grammatical problems
Thanks

supersmart said:
Hey guys!
I want to buy V10 this week
I would like to know
1.Is V10 in white color going to be dirty?
2.Will LG release stock roms?
3.Which one is better in auto mode?G4 or V10?
4.Is it worthy to buy V10 instead of G4?
What do u think should I buy G4?
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Why dont you answer?

I cant stand the front facing camera's. Terrible quality. So grainy. The rear camera is much better.

garz said:
I cant stand the front facing camera's. Terrible quality. So grainy. The rear camera is much better.
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The front cameras are ok. The rear camera is awesome. I never seen such good camera on a phone. Comparable with a DSLR camera.
I have V10 H961N (rooted) and G4 H815(rooted) too. Exactly the same camera on both. The same quality. The software on V10 has more option than on G4 (almost on video)

The camera is not the worst I've seen but compared to Nexus 6p it's quite bad. Even G4 has better quality pictures, which is indeed strange. Most of the photos I take are blurry, or have weird edges around them. Even when it's a sunny day. I did expect a lot more, but I won't say the camera is complete sh*t.

Sounds like your lens is dirty.

Hannes084 said:
The camera is not the worst I've seen but compared to Nexus 6p it's quite bad. Even G4 has better quality pictures, which is indeed strange. Most of the photos I take are blurry, or have weird edges around them. Even when it's a sunny day. I did expect a lot more, but I won't say the camera is complete sh*t.
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Sounds like your lens is dirty.
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It could be scratched too. I picked up a used V10 and had the same problem. The scratches weren't easily noticeable but when you looked in the right light you could see them. I ended up ordering a new lens and it works awesome again. I have new G4 I compared the pics with and they are pretty much identical. As for the 6P taking better photos it's close but no way. I had a 6P and the V10 takes much more realistic photos with less blur. There is no manual mode or OIS so good luck with the motion and night shots. After owning many phones this is the best camera hands down, second is the Note 5. I tried the S6, Note 4 and 5, Turbo and Turbo 2, MotoX Pure, 6P, G4 and the V10 within the last month or so along with a couple not worth mentioning.

Front Facing Cameras - Is your Wide angle better than Normal?

Ok, so I really want to love this phone but I can't figure out why the front camera wide angle photos look sharp (almost too sharp) and the normal 8 Mp photos from the front camera have no detail whatsoever. Look at the attached picture and compare the clarity of the nose, eyes, and eyebrows. The difference is huge. When taking portraits, you don't have an option to take wide angle photos, so portraits from the 8Mp camera don't look good. Normal camera should be the same as the one in G7, but it's not nearly as good.
No effects / skin smoothing etc is applied, so I'm thinking mine is defective. Can you guys take some side by side normal and wide angle photos with the front camera to compare?
Thanks.
Allen K

Your “standard” camera looks unfocused, which is why it is blurrier.
That said, after some testing I do think the “wide” selfie camera looks better in general. The main thing that bothers me is the two cameras have differing color profiles. I prefer the default color profile of the wide, so that looks better to be.
The same problem applies to the rear camera as well.
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It doesn't seem to focus. When I tap on the screen, all it does is change the exposure / brightness, but there is no change in focusing. It seems that both front cameras have a fixed focus because neither adjust to tapping, but wide angle has a good bit more detail.
I stopped by the store and took two pictures side by side - store unit was noticeably better, though as good as I would've liked. I'm getting another G7 for my wife and will have to compare them.
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Your “standard” camera looks unfocused, which is why it is blurrier.
That said, after some testing I do think the “wide” selfie camera looks better in general. The main thing that bothers me is the two cameras have differing color profiles. I prefer the default color profile of the wide, so that looks better to be.
The same problem applies to the rear camera as well.
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From what I can tell, and based on some reviews I've watched, front cameras have fixed focus... maybe, due to this, the main lens has a larger minimum distance that needs to be maintained for a clearer shot. It still seems a bit off.. but I've been able to get somewhat better shots out of it holding the camera a bit farther away. I'm getting a G7 for my wife, so I'll be able to do some comparisons.
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Your “standard” camera looks unfocused, which is why it is blurrier.
That said, after some testing I do think the “wide” selfie camera looks better in general. The main thing that bothers me is the two cameras have differing color profiles. I prefer the default color profile of the wide, so that looks better to be.
The same problem applies to the rear camera as well.
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Allen K said:
From what I can tell, and based on some reviews I've watched, front cameras have fixed focus... maybe, due to this, the main lens has a larger minimum distance that needs to be maintained for a clearer shot. It still seems a bit off.. but I've been able to get somewhat better shots out of it holding the camera a bit farther away. I'm getting a G7 for my wife, so I'll be able to do some comparisons.
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Can you help me to check the camera sensor using 'device hw info' from playstore?

I can.. what would you like to know?
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Can you help me to check the camera sensor using 'device hw info' from playstore?
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Allen K said:
I can.. what would you like to know?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40/how-to/lg-v40-pentacamera-sensors-t3870789
I just wanna make sure that what I wrote here is correct. Some say that the front camera is sl846, not Sony imx219 sensor

I can post a screenshot, but everything is exactly the same as in the image you posted in the thread you linked. It doesn't say exactly which camera model it is.. only the specs..
I can say this - I just compared the front camera with a G7, and the G7 is a little brighter and clearer, at least in semi-low light situation. It's possible that the main camera on my V40 is defective, but not bad enough to worry about it right now.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v40/how-to/lg-v40-pentacamera-sensors-t3870789
I just wanna make sure that what I wrote here is correct. Some say that the front camera is sl846, not Sony imx219 sensor
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Allen K said:
I can post a screenshot, but everything is exactly the same as in the image you posted in the thread you linked. It doesn't say exactly which camera model it is.. only the specs..
I can say this - I just compared the front camera with a G7, and the G7 is a little brighter and clearer, at least in semi-low light situation. It's possible that the main camera on my V40 is defective, but not bad enough to worry about it right now.
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Do you still have G7? Is it using 3 imx351 & 1 sl846?

Yes, I got the G7 yesterday. How can I tell the model number of the camera? I don't think the Device Info HW app tells me that. It only shows specs.
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Do you still have G7? Is it using 3 imx351 & 1 sl846?
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Found it. Attached photo is for the V40. G7 lists imx351 and sl846.
Interesting to note that the 16mp rear wide angle cameras have a different focal length between V40 and G7 - 2.18mm vs. 2.38mm. Both are f/1.9.
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Do you still have G7? Is it using 3 imx351 & 1 sl846?
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Allen K said:
Found it. Attached photo is for the V40. G7 lists imx351 and sl846.
Interesting to note that the 16mp rear wide angle cameras have a different focal length between V40 and G7 - 2.18mm vs. 2.38mm. Both are f/1.9.
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Thank you so much for your help. ?
Do you find any difference in picture quality from both of these phones (the identical sensors)?
Wait... Different focal length?, I hope this isn't like LG G6 variants
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/lg-g6-wide-angle-camera-2-versions-one-t3712985/page1

Not sure about the focal length differences...but they're definitely not the same.
When taking a close-up selfie, the main camera on the G7 is much clearer than the V40's. But V40's wide angle is sharper than the main camera, and despite lower resolution, is much closer in clarity to the G7 only front camera. At a distance, the difference is a bit harder to notice.
That said, I did compare my phone to another V40 in the store, and the store demo was clearer, so I think mine might just be defective. I'm just not sure if it's worth trying to replace, since I would likely have to pay restocking and I don't want a refurbished unit from LG.
Allen K
harysviewty said:
Thank you so much for your help.
Do you find any difference in picture quality from both of these phones (the identical sensors)?
Wait... Different focal length?, I hope this isn't like LG G6 variants
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/lg-g6-wide-angle-camera-2-versions-one-t3712985/page1
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Question Camera performance

Can someone comment on camera performance, specifically indoor shots with pets. How well does it pick up fur? I've just got the S21 and I'm sending it back because the camera software is pretty bad. Wondering if it's the same story with the Ultra or not?

I think it works really with, here`s my cat

It depends if they are moving or not plus what settings you have on. I'm happy coming from a S20+.

2003vstrom said:
I think it works really with, here`s my cat
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Thanks! This is the perfect example as to what I was looking for, even down to the colour of the cat! Unfortunately it confirms to me that while it is much better than the regular S21, its just not up to scratch.
Here's my cat (Pixel 4 vs S21). The Pixel does a much better job of not blurring the fur and retains a lot of the detail and more colour accuracy.

The main camera seems to be really good and sharp and has motion tracking to maintain focus on moving subjects. I dont have pets but don't think you should have a problem. However, I find the quality from the 10X zoom camera to be really bad. I dont know if it is just my unit or if others are experiencing these issues as well. The images are soft, lack detail and are over processed. See examples below. Not sure if this is due to low light or some other reason as its been quite cloudy in the UK these past few days. Let me know what you guys think. Can my unit be defective? Look at the processing on the robins tail in the 1st image its so grainy. Also the 3rd image lacks detail looks like the bird has been painted.

yeah I know my pics are lot better coming from the S20 ultra, with close up shots lol

eldrid said:
The main camera seems to be really good and sharp and has motion tracking to maintain focus on moving subjects. I dont have pets but don't think you should have a problem. However, I find the quality from the 10X zoom camera to be really bad. I dont know if it is just my unit or if others are experiencing these issues as well. The images are soft, lack detail and are over processed. See examples below. Not sure if this is due to low light or some other reason as its been quite cloudy in the UK these past few days. Let me know what you guys think. Can my unit be defective? Look at the processing on the robins tail in the 1st image its so grainy. Also the 3rd image lacks detail looks like the bird has been painted.
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yeah here is my moon pic at 30x zoomed that wasn't even on a tripod that was a steady hand, I know the pic looks way better on my phone then regular crappy computer screen. lol

2003vstrom said:
yeah here is my moon pic at 30x zoomed that wasn't even on a tripod that was a steady hand, I know the pic looks way better on my phone then regular crappy computer screen. lol
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Wow! that looks really good. Was that on your S20 Ultra? Or the s21 ultra.

eldrid said:
Wow! that looks really good. Was that on your S20 Ultra? Or the s21 ultra.
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on my s21 ultra, the s20 ultra I had the you could never get a nice image out of the zoom

I should get a new unit while I can then. I probably have a defective unit as my pictures from the 10x zoom camera are horrible.

Camera is no where near as good as touted. Which is a familiar story. Anything other than bright light the zooms are essentially pointless. Night mode helps, but unless your taking a pic of a still scene or a sleeping pet then it's going to look bad.
Funny thing is, you snap a pic and click the photo preview and it's snapped the shot instantly and is in focus, but then it's almost like the processor catches up and gives you the blurry pic. I don't get it.
3x zoom pic in good light attached. View attachment 5206487

Aneres11 said:
Camera is no where near as good as touted. Which is a familiar story. Anything other than bright light the zooms are essentially pointless. Night mode helps, but unless your taking a pic of a still scene or a sleeping pet then it's going to look bad.
Funny thing is, you snap a pic and click the photo preview and it's snapped the shot instantly and is in focus, but then it's almost like the processor catches up and gives you the blurry pic. I don't get it.
3x zoom pic in good light attached. View attachment 5206487
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This is what I feared and it's exactly the same as the regular S21. The hardware is capable enough, just the Samsung processing can be awful. You can see the difference when switching between gcam and the Samsung camera app. How have they managed to do such a bad job?
It's a shame because other than the camera I love everything else about the phone.

steslatt said:
This is what I feared and it's exactly the same as the regular S21. The hardware is capable enough, just the Samsung processing can be awful. You can see the difference when switching between gcam and the Samsung camera app. How have they managed to do such a bad job?
It's a shame because other than the camera I love everything else about the phone.
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Yeah. I have a 12 Pro currently and bought this thinking I could have similar still performance with the added benefits of the great zoom. But my P30 Pro from two years ago took better photos than this IMO.
Samsung do not know what to do with post processing. It's painful. And I'm sick of reviewers saying contrary. Every year it's the same thing. Cameras are bigged up, Samsung "finally get it right" and then normal users get them in hand and it's the same story.
I'll be returning to my 12 Pro.

Pets yes and no. I've only had the phone since Friday, so I have a lot more time shooting on my Pixel 4, but so far, I think the P4 was better for pets. Especially for those quick shots. Now I may get used to the ultra and learn to shoot with it better, because it does take some amazing shots, but for now, I'd give the Pixel the slight edge. It gave me more confidence anyways that I would get a good shot

So are the noisy over sharpened pics from the 10X zoom camera normal then? I am thinking of sending mine back. I got the phone only for the camera.

2003vstrom said:
yeah here is my moon pic at 30x zoomed that wasn't even on a tripod that was a steady hand, I know the pic looks way better on my phone then regular crappy computer screen. lol
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What camera settings are you using to achieve it. I've tried several times to take a moon shot and mine come out horrible... Maybe it's the bright lights of the city, don't really know.

mprunty said:
What camera settings are you using to achieve it. I've tried several times to take a moon shot and mine come out horrible... Maybe it's the bright lights of the city, don't really know.
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It was default mode and I just open the camera app and zoomed it to 30x and made sure I was very steady then took the pic, I didn`t mess with any settings and it could be the the city lights I was out were there is little light pollution.

Does anyone have any S21U portrait photos they can share with a comparison to either Pixel or iPhone 11/12 Pro Max?
I will be coming from a Pixel 5 and really hoping pet and portrait photos are of comparable quality.

Tmel14 said:
Does anyone have any S21U portrait photos they can share with a comparison to either Pixel or iPhone 11/12 Pro Max?
I will be coming from a Pixel 5 and really hoping pet and portrait photos are of comparable quality.
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Judging from what I've seen and the replies in here, pet pictures definitely won't be comparable. The processing is too soft and just makes the fur look too blurry.