Using TWRP recovery with non-rooted phone? - Moto X Q&A

Hi Guys,
My company uses Good For Enterprise for email, which requires a phone to not be rooted. Well I was using Xposed and Rootcloak to hide root, but it appears an update patched that exploit. So I flashed the SBF for 4.4.2 and have Good running. Well I wanted to be able to use TWRP to go back to my rooted backups, but once I push TWRP to my device, my STOCK unrooted fresh SBF'ed received a "SuperSU Installer" in my apps and also a persistent notification wanting me to install SuperSU through Google Play or TWRP. Good then failed the Root check and locked me out. So I thought I could push the stock recovery back and it would go away, but nope, no dice. Any ideas? FWIW I'm running a DE Moto X from Verizon, unlocked bootloader on 4.4.2 system and bootloader.

dkoon1987 said:
Hi Guys,
My company uses Good For Enterprise for email, which requires a phone to not be rooted. Well I was using Xposed and Rootcloak to hide root, but it appears an update patched that exploit. So I flashed the SBF for 4.4.2 and have Good running. Well I wanted to be able to use TWRP to go back to my rooted backups, but once I push TWRP to my device, my STOCK unrooted fresh SBF'ed received a "SuperSU Installer" in my apps and also a persistent notification wanting me to install SuperSU through Google Play or TWRP. Good then failed the Root check and locked me out. So I thought I could push the stock recovery back and it would go away, but nope, no dice. Any ideas? FWIW I'm running a DE Moto X from Verizon, unlocked bootloader on 4.4.2 system and bootloader.
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Seems you did everything right BUT when TWRP ask if you wanna install root or superuser.. forget which it says. Just say no. Then you should be root free. Hope that helps!

drago10029 said:
Seems you did everything right BUT when TWRP ask if you wanna install root or superuser.. forget which it says. Just say no. Then you should be root free. Hope that helps!
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Thanks, but when I was in TWRP recovery it did ask me to root, and I said no; but it still had the "SuperSU Installer" in the app drawer, and couldn't be removed.

dkoon1987 said:
Thanks, but when I was in TWRP recovery it did ask me to root, and I said no; but it still had the "SuperSU Installer" in the app drawer, and couldn't be removed.
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hmm, well if you say you came from stock, flashed TWRP and SU installed itself. than maybe just removing root would work. There's a guide for that, probably in the general thread. also, I read that there is a way to load multiple ROMs that's stickied in one of the threads. That could be exactly what you need!!
Don't remember which thread so you have to find it.

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Sent a new phone with 4.3....what would you do?

So I was having issue with my note 3 ( bluetooth issues ) I upgraded to 4.4.2
AT&T sent me a new / refurb phone and it has 4.3 on it.
So Im curious on what you guys would do?
Upgrade to 4.4.2 and stick with all this stupid bloatware
or
Root, and rom it?
If that latter, does anyone have any links to do that ( I used to do it with my S2, S3 and S4 )
thank s
Root it. It's not worth the grief to upgrade it to 4.4.2.
You can root it and use safestrap to install custom ROMs, or just enjoy the stock setup with root.
Sent from my locked down Note 3 via the tapatalk app
ROOT AND ROM it!
I was ROOTED and ROM'd, but I got bit by the OTA Upgrade bug... I went through all the hassle of downgrading, unrooting, resetting, then upgrading.
Now I've got the fresh new bloated OTA official 4.4.2 and NO ROOT.
Should I use Kingo? is that still safe for the Note 3 on 4.3?
well I rooted it with Kingo, However I'm having issues with SafeStrap.
Downloaded the APK and Busybox.
Installed SafeStrap and installed the recovery. When I manually reboot or reboot into the recovery via the app, it just boot as normal
Root it!
I rooted with Kingo, no problems, the first day I got the Note 3 and took the Nb4 update. I was so lucky to catch the KK update and froze it mid-download with ttb. I am so glad!! I wouldn't be able to use this thing without root. I have installed safestrap and roms without issue. (staying on 4.3 roms mind you)
scojosmac said:
well I rooted it with Kingo, However I'm having issues with SafeStrap.
Downloaded the APK and Busybox.
Installed SafeStrap and installed the recovery. When I manually reboot or reboot into the recovery via the app, it just boot as normal
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try uninstalling ss then install it again, make sure it is 3.71 not 3.72. 3.71 doesnt need busybox if im not mistaken.
scojosmac said:
well I rooted it with Kingo, However I'm having issues with SafeStrap.
Downloaded the APK and Busybox.
Installed SafeStrap and installed the recovery. When I manually reboot or reboot into the recovery via the app, it just boot as normal
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I am going to use Kingo tomorrow as well I think. How does get root? Will it have superuser on it after it roots or do you have to put it on the phone yourself?
Thanks.
Krunk83 said:
I am going to use Kingo tomorrow as well I think. How does get root? Will it have superuser on it after it roots or do you have to put it on the phone yourself?
Thanks.
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kingo installs supersu. when supersu installs, click on it and choose disable knox, presto!
i upgraded to nc2 and want to downgrade to mj5 now.. any method ?
anuragsodhi1 said:
i upgraded to nc2 and want to downgrade to mj5 now.. any method ?
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no downgrades from official ota nc2 sir, no root method and no unlocked bootloader.
scojosmac said:
well I rooted it with Kingo, However I'm having issues with SafeStrap.
Downloaded the APK and Busybox.
Installed SafeStrap and installed the recovery. When I manually reboot or reboot into the recovery via the app, it just boot as normal
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Did you try rebooting into recovery via a power menu? That is what the tutorial says it should do. Hold power to bring up the menu and it should then have an option to reboot into recovery. I am going to try safestrap too I think.

No root access for sense lolipop

Well i flashed some lollipop roms & i have a huge prob...I've lost root access for most apps.SuperSu app show them as greanted & actually no Su access..Any solution please..Well now im on latest official lollipop update...
also i got this " erofs (read-only file system)" when i tried to modify system file.
crazykas said:
Well i flashed some lollipop roms & i have a huge prob...I've lost root access for most apps.SuperSu app show them as greanted & actually no Su access..Any solution please..Well now im on latest official lollipop update...
also i got this " erofs (read-only file system)" when i tried to modify system file.
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Which rom exactly? There are currently a total of 3 including the RUU. On the Superuser app check if there's a update for the binary.
luigi311 said:
Which rom exactly? There are currently a total of 3 including the RUU. On the Superuser app check if there's a update for the binary.
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RUU in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-one/general/sprint-htc-one-android-5-0-coming-soon-t3001541.
Thanks i'll check that out
Is there a root method for lollipop yet? S-OFF, unlocked, and TWRP installed, just waiting for a method to root and disable write protection.
Robert542 said:
Is there a root method for lollipop yet? S-OFF, unlocked, and TWRP installed, just waiting for a method to root and disable write protection.
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Does TWRP ask you to install SuperSU when you try to exit it? I haven't tried on Lollipop yet, but I know when I've been running stock unrooted in the past, TWRP would prompt me to root when I restarted to system.
coal686 said:
Does TWRP ask you to install SuperSU when you try to exit it? I haven't tried on Lollipop yet, but I know when I've been running stock unrooted in the past, TWRP would prompt me to root when I restarted to system.
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This method seems to work just fine for me. After installing supersu in TWRP then opened supersu selected TWRP and it downloaded the latest binaries and flashed in TWRP and worked fine after reboot.
I RUU'ed today to the newest Sprint M7 version. After downloading TWRP Manager got message that TWRP needs root permissions. Downloaded WinDroid, used it to flash TWRP. then used it to gain root access. WinDroid did not work for me on Windows 10 Tech Preview. Went to other hard drive with Win 7, and worked great. The thing I have noticed is that Root App Delete will not uninstall the Sprint bloat, or the Google crap (movies, TV, books, etc).
coal686 said:
Does TWRP ask you to install SuperSU when you try to exit it? I haven't tried on Lollipop yet, but I know when I've been running stock unrooted in the past, TWRP would prompt me to root when I restarted to system.
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Unfortunately it does not. I even tried Philz to see if it would root and it's still a no go. Philz said I was rooted and just needed to download superuser from the play store. I downloaded super user and it says I need to root my phone.
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retiredtrebor said:
I RUU'ed today to the newest Sprint M7 version. After downloading TWRP Manager got message that TWRP needs root permissions. Downloaded WinDroid, used it to flash TWRP. then used it to gain root access. WinDroid did not work for me on Windows 10 Tech Preview. Went to other hard drive with Win 7, and worked great. The thing I have noticed is that Root App Delete will not uninstall the Sprint bloat, or the Google crap (movies, TV, books, etc).
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Write protection needs to be disabled.
Robert542 said:
Unfortunately it does not. I even tried Philz to see if it would root and it's still a no go. Philz said I was rooted and just needed to download superuser from the play store. I downloaded super user and it says I need to root my phone.
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Write protection needs to be disabled.
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And how does one go about disabling write protection?
retiredtrebor said:
And how does one go about disabling write protection?
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From my understanding, that has to be done by a ROM and/or kernel developer.

[Q] Verizon Maintenance Update KXA21.12-L1.26-3

So this morning I got this maintenance update and now I'm being told that an update is available and that this install is differed. When I click on "select to continue update" I'm told my system is up to date. I've already wiped cache, which did not help. Anyone else experiencing this?
KWKSLVR said:
So this morning I got this maintenance update and now I'm being told that an update is available and that this install is differed. When I click on "select to continue update" I'm told my system is up to date. I've already wiped cache, which did not help. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Are you unlocked and rooted?
Nope, totally stock Verizon 4.4.4. I'm so far out of the loop, I didn't even know I could unlock and root in the first place.
Anyone have a fxz for this update? I have it too, but I am rooted with twrp.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
T-Keith said:
Anyone have a fxz for this update? I have it too, but I am rooted with twrp.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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There does not appear to be an FXZ for this.
You can try flashing stock Recovery.img onto your phone and take it. Unlike other OTA's that failed due to Xposed, this one did not give me any issues installing with Xposed still enabled.
NOTE: I'm unlocked bootloader, rooted, running TWRP, with Xposed instaled (MotoXNetActivity module installed). I haven't made any other modifications. I only run apps that require root like AdFree, wifi tether for root, Root Explorer, etc.
KidJoe said:
There does not appear to be an FXZ for this.
You can try flashing stock Recovery.img onto your phone and take it. Unlike other OTA's that failed due to Xposed, this one did not give me any issues installing with Xposed still enabled.
NOTE: I'm unlocked bootloader, rooted, running TWRP, with Xposed instaled (MotoXNetActivity module installed). I haven't made any other modifications. I only run apps that require root like AdFree, wifi tether for root, Root Explorer, etc.
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Thanks, I think this answered my questions in the other thread.
Is there a risk to try running the update with stock recovery and other Xposed modules like Gravity Box? Would they fail similarly to a failed system check like I've had in the past for removing/renaming system apps and such?

Hey Guys quick noob question..(SuperSu)

I just unlocked my bootloader, and rooted my Nexus 6, and installed TWRP 3.0.0 using the Nexus Root Toolkit.
I just installed Adaway, and unrooted it, cus I use a lot of banking apps.
But the question is, when I want to re-root it, could I just flash supersu zip with the custom recovery and that's it?
or do I have to do the root process all over again?
I remember using TWRP 2.8.6.0 on the oneplus one, and when I rebooted it from the custom recovery, it said something like
'It seems like supersu is not installed would you like to install it?' or something like that.
and 'yes' would re-root it, that simple.
it seems like TWRP 3.0.0 doesn't have that.
Thanks
pure1water said:
I just unlocked my bootloader, and rooted my Nexus 6, and installed TWRP 3.0.0 using the Nexus Root Toolkit.
I just installed Adaway, and unrooted it, cus I use a lot of banking apps.
But the question is, when I want to re-root it, could I just flash supersu zip with the custom recovery and that's it?
or do I have to do the root process all over again?
I remember using TWRP 2.8.6.0 on the oneplus one, and when I rebooted it from the custom recovery, it said something like
'It seems like supersu is not installed would you like to install it?' or something like that.
and 'yes' would re-root it, that simple.
it seems like TWRP 3.0.0 doesn't have that.
Thanks
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This feature was removed because it bricked 90% of people's devices also of you have systemless root simply disabling root in the app hides it from bank apps

Rooted, but no rooted apps work

Hello,
I recently used the toolkit to unlock and root my Sprint N6. Super user was installed and works. I installed Rootcheck after everything was complete and it verifies that the phone is rooted. I have installed Nexus 6 double tap to wake and LED control and both state that the phone is not rooted. Super user shows both those apps have super user access.
What am I missing? Thank you!!
itlbok333 said:
Hello,
I recently used the toolkit to unlock and root my Sprint N6. Super user was installed and works. I installed Rootcheck after everything was complete and it verifies that the phone is rooted. I have installed Nexus 6 double tap to wake and LED control and both state that the phone is not rooted. Super user shows both those apps have super user access.
What am I missing? Thank you!!
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use the latest SuperSU
I am on version 2.65 and from what I can tell, that is the latest.
itlbok333 said:
I am on version 2.65 and from what I can tell, that is the latest.
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you will also need to install busybox as well, as many root apps need it. install from the play store, then install from the app. search busybox in the play store, then choose stericsons version.
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and supersu 2.71 http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Thank you for the reply, Sorry I failed to mention I do have the move listed busy box installed as well. I have clicked on install from within the app as well. Still none of the mentioned root apps work, all say phone appears to not be rooted...
itlbok333 said:
Thank you for the reply, Sorry I failed to mention I do have the move listed busy box installed as well. I have clicked on install from within the app as well. Still none of the mentioned root apps work, all say phone appears to not be rooted...
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try flashing the supersu 2.71 with twrp recovery, you should have root when you boot up. dont use the toolkit.
simms22,
I flashed version 2.71 through recovery, after reboot it was installed. Same "phone does not appear to be rooted" when trying to use the root apps... Root check still says phone is rooted. This is puzzling!
itlbok333 said:
simms22,
I flashed version 2.71 through recovery, after reboot it was installed. Same "phone does not appear to be rooted" when trying to use the root apps... Root check still says phone is rooted. This is puzzling!
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very odd! tell me, which rom are you using? and did you wipe your data before rooting? if not, you might have to wipe your data then reflash your rom/gapps, and supersu.
I am stock rooted. Yes I wiped data and started from scratch after unlock and root.
itlbok333 said:
I am stock rooted. Yes I wiped data and started from scratch after unlock and root.
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when you try to use a root app, so you get a little popup that asks you to give the app root? do yoh have the supersu app installed as well?
Yes SuperSU 2.71 flashed, the popup comes up and I grant access. Then each app says not rooted. Makes zero sense... The apps even show up in SuperSU app.
Yes, there is a popup and I have granted SU access to the above root apps, still no joy. I have SuperSU 2.71 flashed and installed, Root check verifies root.
I had this. The fix is to uninstall Busybox and reinstall into an alternative directory where it can be found. Mine appears to work fine in /su/bin, but if that doesn't work for you try the others (/system/xbin, /system/bin etc.)
It may not even need to be uninstalled - you could just try installing into the different directories until you find the one that the root apps are checking for root, though I'm not sure whether that would clutter your device with redundant binaries. I'm sure someone will be able to advise on that.

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