Videoclip made with free software (Kdenlive - Manjaro) - Off-topic

Videoclip "A" (BEN SENMEDO).
Videoclip made with free software (Kdenlive - Manjaro, end format WebM, audio Ogg).
The song is in Gallego, a language that people speaks in the North-West of Spain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwM4k3FYD2I
Letter of "A" in English:
In this black horse I'm going to walk between the rain,
they fall disks and seas cry out victory.
I listen to the ripple of the good souls still death,
for me it will never be late, when the fight will be good.
I rush forth at the bad management of the power,
I leave the jewels, I choose only the pieces of chess.
One night, any day, waiting.
One night, any day, waiting.
People are not silly sheeps,
we mount horses, we take the bridles.
The souls without fear ever win the larvas,
I don't tremble with idiots, you will never see flights.

Nice video, but this thread should of not been created.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15839392
OT YouTube thread.
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Thanks LoopDoGG79!
Next time, when I want to post a Youtube video, not a link to a Youtube video I'll know how to do it better!

cgalega said:
Thanks LoopDoGG79!
Next time, when I want to post a Youtube video, not a link to a Youtube video I'll know how to do it better!
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On Tapatalk, it shows as a video. Regardless though, link or video post, it belongs there.
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Also, use a better thread title next time. It looks like a spam thread where you're trying to sell a piece of software
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LordManhattan said:
Also, use a better thread title next time. It looks like a spam thread where you're trying to sell a piece of software
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Ok, however nobody can sell free software: it's free.

LoopDoGG79 said:
On Tapatalk, it shows as a video. Regardless though, link or video post, it belongs there.
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Thanks again!

Even if the purpose of the video is to show the power of a new piece of software, the video and the post should go into the youtube thread, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15839392.
If there were download links or any other "share" of the software, it might be a different story....
Sorry, but thread closed.

Related

Show Ideas?

Just kinda thinking out loud here (not the best thing to do but oh well!) Wouldn't it be nice to have an XDATV show about some off the apps that come from XDA? (SetCPU ect)
Or just an XDATV show dedicated to app reivews, Like SassiBob's segment but as a full show?
As I said, just thinking out loud
yeah we have chad for roms
sassy for apps
harry (lol) for a mix of quick stuff - maybe too quick
az - general xda news and other mix
that other blonde guy for interviews....
kinda need to find a set topic for each show... almost there....
would be nice to have a Q&A live, or a how-to ( mobile tech videos - bend over and take it with him xda. he is a good resource! )
another show for games...?
TRusselo said:
yeah we have chad for roms
sassy for apps
harry (lol) for a mix of quick stuff - maybe too quick
az - general xda news and other mix
that other blonde guy for interviews....
kinda need to find a set topic for each show... almost there....
would be nice to have a Q&A live, or a how-to ( mobile tech videos - bend over and take it with him xda. he is a good resource! )
another show for games...?
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Ohh I love the idea of a How-to video! That would go down well with the people who are not as tech savy as the rest of us Not sure about a live Q&A though, that would depend on having a big crowd that interacts & I have a feeling that with XDATV in such a young age it would fail to attract the crowds needed. But I think maybe a top5 show? Like top5 Apps or Top5 Roms?
An XDATV Games show?! Only if we can dress the Android dude up as Mr Chip! XD haha
Maybe this is silly.... But, what if an episode was dedicated to some "issues" (like OEMS locking the bootloader, developer's thoughts on fragmentation, the suit, between Google and Oracle and it's effect on Android and the Linux kernel....)?
Sparky WAS in the doghouse. Now, He's allowed on the deck at least.
My Nexus S is annoying me.
Babydoll25 said:
Maybe this is silly.... But, what if an episode was dedicated to some "issues" (like OEMS locking the bootloader, developer's thoughts on fragmentation, the suit, between Google and Oracle and it's effect on Android and the Linux kernel....)?
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soo.... you mean news?
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soo.... you mean news?
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Well, more like an editorial by a particular dev or any xda tv personality on those (and many other) issues. Not really reporting facts (news) but opinion. Bad idea?
Sparky WAS in the doghouse. Now, He's allowed on the deck at least.
My Nexus S is annoying me.
opinions often get confused for fact.
case in point fox "news".
facts are better for people that cant tell the difference.
and theres too many here...
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opinions often get confused for fact.
case in point fox "news".
facts are better for people that cant tell the difference.
and theres too many here...
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Very true.
It was just an idea.
I just like editorials and there are many issues in the Android Community that can be very polarizing.
That was my thought.
But you are right.
Sparky WAS in the doghouse. Now, He's allowed on the deck at least.
My Nexus S is annoying me.
okay okay..well....
XDA Developers forum users are way too damn pretentious and immature in order to host a live Q and A - well said, guy who said that above me. XDA is too young to have that kind of crowd.
BabyDoll - Great Idea, hard to pull off without starting a flame war :-/
TRusello - I articulated your guide, but I haven't had time to edit it yet. I did it with Camtasia Studio so it came out nice and clear.
Also, the guy doing the interviews is shawn, just in case you wanted to know ^^
Oh, and on a side note, I need a nerdy girlfriend, so be sure to PM me your qualifications, ladies.
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Well, more like an editorial by a particular dev or any xda tv personality on those (and many other) issues. Not really reporting facts (news) but opinion. Bad idea?
Sparky WAS in the doghouse. Now, He's allowed on the deck at least.
My Nexus S is annoying me.
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This is for you -
http://thedroidguy.com/2011/04/when-fanboy-meets-fact-android-community-maturity/
I wrote it for XDA but they didn't want to start a flame war, which is very understandable.
I had an idea on a show for how-to videos as well. I'd love to do some!
I don't have a smartphone atm to do any so I guess thats a no
I do however follow HTC news like a puppy dog, so maybe I could do some videos on HTC news? I'm talking ALL news. ROMs, Phone rumors, new releases, OEM firmware updates. I'd love a chance!
My idea for How-To videos was that there would be no set host, but anyone who wants to make a how-to video for noobs could do it. The videos would specifically show from factory to rooting and installing any given ROM on every device xda supports. The footage would be sent to me and I'd edit it to make it as short as possible without leaving anything out, and then it would be uploaded to xda's Youtube channel. If any of you are uncomfortable with speaking or being seen, that's fine, I can do the voice-over. Like I said, going from unboxed to flash-ready as fast as possible is all you'd need to do. Then each of these videos could be placed in each forum's noob sticky.
ChadHughes said:
okay okay..well....
XDA Developers forum users are way too damn pretentious and immature in order to host a live Q and A - well said, guy who said that above me. XDA is too young to have that kind of crowd.
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Man, I'd do it. You, me, and Bob. Put it up on streamly.tv and we're set. Having a live show in general would be fun to do. Sure, I might answer a few questions with "I don't know, go away," but that's why I'd just be hosting it. We'd have guests that came on each week to answer questions. And I'd just smack any pretension that peeked out. Or Bob would. Yeah, Bob would. Plus, there's nobody better than her at keeping things stu...non-pretentious.
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TRusello - I articulated your guide, but I haven't had time to edit it yet. I did it with Camtasia Studio so it came out nice and clear.
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Gravy cant wait to see it! My other " Short/ one word answers " in my sig, could really use being spoken as well. Check it out. but that might be more down Az 's " tone of voice " ...
Oh, and on a side note, I need a nerdy girlfriend, so be sure to PM me your qualifications, ladies.
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Dido, its 11:30 on a saturday.... wtf am i doning here??
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...Dido, its 11:30 on a saturday.... wtf am i doning here??
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Hey! I'm a girl!
<3 xoxo
azrienoch said:
My idea for How-To videos was that there would be no set host, but anyone who wants to make a how-to video for noobs could do it. The videos would specifically show from factory to rooting and installing any given ROM on every device xda supports. The footage would be sent to me and I'd edit it to make it as short as possible without leaving anything out, and then it would be uploaded to xda's Youtube channel. If any of you are uncomfortable with speaking or being seen, that's fine, I can do the voice-over. Like I said, going from unboxed to flash-ready as fast as possible is all you'd need to do. Then each of these videos could be placed in each forum's noob sticky.
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What about the HTC news idea? I would like to do a all Android news show as well.
Since I'm phone-less I'd like do something!
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Hey! I'm a girl!
<3 xoxo
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hey.. and i have a thing for plants too!... *wink*wink*
just hop in my van little girl, theres something i want to whisper in your ear....
xizzmatt said:
What about the HTC news idea? I would like to do a all Android news show as well.
Since I'm phone-less I like do something!
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My only concern with covering news from outside xda is that its outside xda. I'm by no means a decision maker here, so press on and see how far it goes. I'm sure with a live show we'd be covering general news for a want of content. But we don't embrace a brand as a community, we develop on a large number of devices from a wide array of carriers.
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hey.. and i have a thing for plants too!... *wink*wink*
just hop in my van little girl, theres something i want to whisper in your ear....
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Yeah... you know what they say
white mexican vans only lead to two things: meth labs and rape.
I'm not into either.
ouch! but we dont have mexicans up here in canada. and i am so not into meth!

Giveaway: 20+ cases for Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S II, Sensation & Xperia Play

Hey fellas,
Just wanted to show my thanks for all your continued support by holding a giveaway for everyone. I've got a bunch cases/accessories for the 4 devices listed on the title. I ship anywhere in the world, so wherever you may be, you can enter and win my giveaway.
The rules are on the video but I'll repeat them just in case.
1- Be a subscriber to my channel
2- Comment on the VIDEO with your device (this will help me sort out everyone before I choose winners).
Check out the full video below for the cases;
Entered, thanks!
Ploone said:
Hey fellas,
Just wanted to show my thanks for all your continued support by holding a giveaway for everyone. I've got a bunch cases/accessories for the 4 devices listed on the title. I ship anywhere in the world, so wherever you may be, you can enter and win my giveaway.
The rules are on the video but I'll repeat them just in case.
1- Be a subscriber to my channel
2- Comment on the VIDEO with your device (this will help me sort out everyone before I choose winners).
Check out the full video below for the cases;
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Thank you for your support to the android community as well. I always love a contest. I would love to get my hands on both items for my Xperia PLAY. Especially that Mugen 3600mha battery.......
Quote for truth. That battery is gorgeous.
Done and done ^_^
I have entered. ^-^
thank you very much for the giveaway
Me too . Hope I win bro
Cheers guys, happy to help. Hope those that have newly subscribed to my channel are liking my coverage.
Entered...i like contest
Cheers guys! Good luck to everyone - I wish I could've thrown in some more accessories for the XPERIA Play but I only had the phone for a short time.
Entered the contest too, now let's hope
Sent from my superfast Play
Ok im entered to see if i can win the xperia play stuff
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Are you going to list the winers or are we going to need to keep a look on youtube
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Am in .
I'm in.
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leerpsp said:
Are you going to list the winers or are we going to need to keep a look on youtube
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I'm going to post a video on YouTube with the winners. Since whoever wins is subscribed to me, they'll see a video in their Subscription Box.
Ploone said:
I'm going to post a video on YouTube with the winners. Since whoever wins is subscribed to me, they'll see a video in their Subscription Box.
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Can you please post winners on the forum as well?
Zerobarat1 said:
Can you please post winners on the forum as well?
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Yes, I'll post the link to the winner's video.
Seeing forward to it, a shiny case will make my Play complete

***Movie Game***

I searched and found many games threads and movies threads in the OT, but found only one which linked these two. That was by a user Dredge, and its last reply was posted on 5th July, 2011. Considering it was outdated, I thought it safe to open this one. Just hope the mods don't close this.:fingers-crossed:
Ok, so as the title suggests, this is a game on movies, only Hollywood movies. No local movies, not even Bollywood (i would like to include it, but many people here won't understand the names). A user posts a movie's name, and the next user posts another one whose name starts with the last letter of the previous movie (kind of like the last letter game). If a movie ends with a number, eg. ["movie_name" - 2], then the next user will post a movie that starts with the letter 'O' (t-w-o).
I would like to start with an old but still likable movie :-
Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls
Let's get this thread rolling guys! Always remember the rules, and don't spam!
Se7en
PS: Probably gonna be locked.
Archer told not to post IB4L,so I am not posting it
Insert witty sentence here
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Se7en
PS: Probably gonna be locked.
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National Velvet
I don't see any reason to lock this. It's a similar thing to the last letter game, but not the same, and the thread the OP mentioned was a film guessing game. Anyway...
Triangle
Archer said:
I don't see any reason to lock this. It's a similar thing to the last letter game, but not the same, and the thread the OP mentioned was a film guessing game. Anyway...
Triangle
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Awww I was looking forward to a nice lock post from u
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I don't see any reason to lock this. It's a similar thing to the last letter game, but not the same, and the thread the OP mentioned was a film guessing game. Anyway...
Triangle
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Eragon
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
Ninja Assassin
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Nacho Libre
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
KidCarter93 said:
Nacho Libre
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
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East is east
The Expendables
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
KidCarter93 said:
The Expendables
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
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Saw
Waking the dead
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
KidCarter93 said:
Waking the dead
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
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Daddy day care
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E.T.
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
The longest yard
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Death Race
I'm not buffering. I'm just standing still!
Exorcist: the beginning
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Groundhog Day
I'm a product of the system I was born to destroy!
Yogi bear
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Nexus 7 32GB - Video Unobxing

Hi all, yesterday I shot the video unboxing of latest Asus Nexus 7 32GB version.
If you are interested, here you are the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLX7CqFKhLo
In a few days I will post the full video review.
Let me know what do you think about it.
Ciao
Aratheba said:
Hi all, yesterday I shot the video unboxing of latest Asus Nexus 7 32GB version.
If you are interested, here you are the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLX7CqFKhLo
In a few days I will post the full video review.
Let me know what do you think about it.
Ciao
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While I appreciate you taking the time in making a video, I really don't see the need or value in it.
There are already dozens (probably more) of Nexus 7 unboxings for the 8GB and 16GB models. The 32GB is identical in every way, outside of the internal flash chip. Nothing new to see.
Of course, you are right, there may be many others unboxing video about Nexus 7 in 16Gb and 8GB version.
Maybe someone hasn't seen them yet and wants to see directly the 32gb one.
Maybe I'm giving more technical specs than others, maybe not (did you see my video before this post?).
Maybe someone wants to know what version does this nexus come with?! Maybe not!
I shoot this video just for my pleasure (and I hope for someone else pleasure too!), at night ('cause I have a job and a family) and, most of all, without earining a single damn penny for it.
I'm sorry if I did bore you: next time maybe you can even just skip a thread like this if you are not interested!
Thanks
Too many unboxing videos and reviews also 32gb have nothing different specs wise except 16+gb. And yes there are 32gb reviews in YouTube already.
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Omar04 said:
Too many unboxing videos and reviews also 32gb have nothing different specs wise except 16+gb. And yes there are 32gb reviews in YouTube already.
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Lol!
Did you see the video before posting this?
Ipad mini is better
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i watched it, and while we appreciate you doing the video its nothing new. maybe when u get that nexus 10 you should do another. unboxing videos are more for unreleased devices or devices everyone is waiting on and can't wait so watching youtube unboxing videos excites us. there isn't much to be excited about as most of us have nexus 7's already, in 8/16/32gb variants. but, thanks anyway
What's the difference of unboxing 32gb one from 16gb one other than the invisible on camera additional 16bg storage.
There's nothing new to see there sorry pal.
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i watched it, and while we appreciate you doing the video its nothing new. maybe when u get that nexus 10 you should do another. unboxing videos are more for unreleased devices or devices everyone is waiting on and can't wait so watching youtube unboxing videos excites us. there isn't much to be excited about as most of us have nexus 7's already, in 8/16/32gb variants. but, thanks anyway
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I tried to report as many technical specs as I could in the video. If you watched it, you can remember when I talked about the downclocked frequencies of the GPU. I haven't seen many videos having in deep review of technical aspects. Maybe someone could appreciate it, while someone else just doesn't care.
That's why I though that this unboxing could be interesting.
Anyway, no one is forcing you all from watching it if you don't care. I lost my sleep time for shooting these videos and it's not that nice reading some of you saying the video is useless without even watchin' it!
idevice12345 said:
Ipad mini is better
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Ha ha ha...you are a genius. :laugh::laugh::laugh::good:
Aratheba said:
I tried to report as many technical specs as I could in the video. If you watched it, you can remember when I talked about the downclocked frequencies of the GPU. I haven't seen many videos having in deep review of technical aspects. Maybe someone could appreciate it, while someone else just doesn't care.
That's why I though that this unboxing could be interesting.
Anyway, no one is forcing you all from watching it if you don't care. I lost my sleep time for shooting these videos and it's not that nice reading some of you saying the video is useless without even watchin' it!
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You seem to be missing the point. No one is attacking you for making the video. Everyone has been polite about the matter (except for you). What everyone is simply saying is, that there is no purpose in making an "unboxing" video for a product that was released 4 months ago. No one is going to watch it since everyone here already unboxed their own. The purpose of those types of videos is for when a product first comes out, so people who haven't picked theirs up yet, or are on the fence about buying one, can see what it's all about. And while your video might have some more technical information in it, most people on XDA are already well familiar with the specs and details. And the fact that it has 32GB is irrelevant. It's like making a duplicate car test drive video for a new model that has a different A/C filter in it.
Lastly, if all you wanted was positive feedback, you probably shouldn't have posted anything on the Internet in the first place.
"Useless" = every post in this thread except the OP.
OP: it's better to just ignore these comments and not respond. Thanks for the video.
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You seem to be missing the point. No one is attacking you for making the video. Everyone has been polite about the matter (except for you). What everyone is simply saying is, that there is no purpose in making an "unboxing" video for a product that was released 4 months ago. No one is going to watch it since everyone here already unboxed their own. The purpose of those types of videos is for when a product first comes out, so people who haven't picked theirs up yet, or are on the fence about buying one, can see what it's all about. And while your video might have some more technical information in it, most people on XDA are already well familiar with the specs and details. And the fact that it has 32GB is irrelevant. It's like making a duplicate car test drive video for a new model that has a different A/C filter in it.
Lastly, if all you wanted was positive feedback, you probably shouldn't have posted anything on the Internet in the first place.
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Am I asking you for a positive feedback? Can you please point me where?
I'm open to any possible feedback, when the feedback it's a constructive one.
I don't think I've been unkind or unpolite in any ways. Instead, I do think it's unpolite and even unfair to judge someone else video without even watching it. As well as it's unpolite (and not only) to believe to be representative of a whole community. Do you think XDA is made up only of skilled people? Do you think the whole XDA members live in Us?
I do perfectly know what does an unboxing video means as well as I know Nexus 7 was announced in June and went on the market middle July in Us and Australia. But maybe you don't remember that not every country has Nexus 7 yet, or that maybe in some others it went on sale later (here in Italy nexus 7 @16GB started being sold on late September/ beginning of October, while Nexus 7 @32Gb will start at middle November).
Having these thoughts in my mind and considering that I tried to be as more technical as I can, I just though that this unboxing could be useful to someone, if not, I'm not forcing anyone in watching it.
Thanks for your constructive feedback anyway.
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"Useless" = every post in this thread except the OP.
OP: it's better to just ignore these twits and not respond. Thanks for the video.
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Thanks, you are completely right.
irishrally said:
"Useless" = every post in this thread except the OP.
OP: it's better to just ignore these twits and not respond. Thanks for the video.
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Way to be eloquent by calling people names. Maybe people just have seen TOO MANY of these type of videos already when the it was first released many months ago?
great
good tablet
Aratheba said:
Lol!
Did you see the video before posting this?
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I watched several from different channels
Don't get me wrong :beer: I appreciate your efforts. Cheers
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irishrally said:
"Useless" = every post in this thread except the OP.
OP: it's better to just ignore these comments and not respond. Thanks for the video.
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this, was the most useless. the OP asked "tell me what you think". so everyone did, in a pretty polite way. this thread should just be locked. its a 3-4 month old device. no one is dying for the device to be released or leaked photos, its been out. not to mention he already opened the device, took off the plastic, and just put it back in to make a video. should be called a nexus 7 review video, not a unboxing.
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this, was the most useless. the OP asked "tell me what you think". so everyone did, in a pretty polite way. this thread should just be locked. its a 3-4 month old device. no one is dying for the device to be released or leaked photos, its been out. not to mention he already opened the device, took off the plastic, and just put it back in to make a video. should be called a nexus 7 review video, not a unboxing.
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:good:
People who have issue with the video, why don't you guys just skip it. As per your logic there are several flavors of AOSP roms, and people should stick with only one and rest of the dev simply call it a day. If you guys cannot appreciate someone's work then don't criticize is either.
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35 minute overview of the Nexus 4. Link to The Video

Hey guys watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IUMHgWExD8&newstate=5de12a31f2ab826cb42b4ece05d42788
He's giving a great insight on the phone.
Really in depth live stream if you want to know more about the phone. Will save you lots of time asking questions in the threads
Good ol Chris pirello!
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Nice find!
I'll check this out in a bit.
There's already a thread for reviews which can be found here.
''Absolute power corrupts absolutely, but absolute powerlessness does the same''
It's an OK review but the dude just keeps saying how much he loves everything, it's starting to annoy me.
I stopped watching when the reviewer ask why did Google put quad-core in N4 when they only put dual-core A15 in N10.
This guy is an idiot.
Horrible video.
Not xda worthy in my honest opinion
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Not the best preliminary review but I appreciate it all the same. :thumbup:
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he isnt really reviewing it, he is just showing his impressions. i liked it, it made me want the phone more lol
i stopped watching the second he said google now is translating in braille... thinking he set it up somewhere... i knew right then he knew not much bout androids.. let alone jellybean...
ferozfero said:
i stopped watching the second he said google now is translating in braille... thinking he set it up somewhere... i knew right then he knew not much bout androids.. let alone jellybean...
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so because he didnt know that much about android means its a bad unboxing? it was his first time using 4.2..
i got annoyed of the tmobile employee though.

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