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I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
I don't know what others are telling you about conditioning a LiIon battery but you don't have to. LiIon batteries don't suffer from what NiCad do. Some do suggest wearing the battery down to nil and then charging it up again. However, this is pretty bad for the battery and should not be done more than once every 30 cycles. With every LiIon battery I've ever owned I've either trickle charged it or charged it when it wasn't too low and they've all lasted over 3 years. I've never conditioned one.
Anyway, my advice to you is to see how long your battery lasts in standby. Mine could probably last 3 days or more if I don't bother it too much (with sync, wifi and all that good stuff). I find the worst contender for battery drain is the display. The only problem I see with your stats there is that I've played Asphalt5 for around an hour and a half which is quite heavy on juice and it only drains roughly 10%-15%. Then again you're browsing the web so maybe probably worse.
Oh, and when charging your phone, don't use the USB hooked up to a computer as it doesn't stop charging when it's full. Use the wall charger to charge.
no need to worry more
just get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
lokhor said:
I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
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I found that charging it whenever it was convenient instead of when it was low would result in a charge that lasted ~24 hours.
I've noticed significant increase in battery life since I started waiting for the 15% charge warning, plugging it in till it was full and then unplugging it. I get 2-3 days of use this way.
I also set my email to only sync between 6 AM and 11 PM. I believe this helps a lot as well.
since we are about this topic, check this out
How to spot fake battery vs. OEM battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7953322
so if I'm listening to music during the day at work should I have my phone plugged into the wall charger or just let the battery run down?
Last night I took the charger off at midnight when it was full and when I woke up it had only dropped 5%. After reading my emails quickly it was at 93%.
it works fine either way
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769208
I find leaving the brightness on automatic uses up loads of battery. Setting it to lowest seems to make the phone last 24hrs+
I also found that having beautiful widgets clock/weather installed used up a lot of battery for some reason.
I don't use weather because it has to sync every so often to update it which to me is a waste...I'll just look outside. I also leave brightness on the lowest setting wherever I am as the screen is already very bright (why waste battery?).
My experiences with my SGS have taught me to be conservative with its battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, you eat power like crazy. The best bet is to just top her off whenever the need arises. Personally, I have found that I'm fine just topping her off in the car when I'm driving, so that I start my work day at high 90's, and especially once I've got my morning browsing out of the way, I don't eat a big chunk of battery at any other time.
But yes, if you find you are running low, you can happily just take a half hour to charge from a USB port to give you an extra boost. Alternatively, spare batteries and so forth do the same thing, although it can be annoying if you don't have a charger that will do the phone and a spare battery at once.
im experimenting with apndroid now to turn of 3g then i dont specifacly need it. It comes with an on/off widget. Looks promising so far. 40% at 2300 hour and then i have used wifi a bit, played angry birds and talked for about 2 hours in total.
i am getting 4 hours tops of batterylife on my z1
i have maximum brightness auto turned off i have wifi and bluetooth off
i have a live wallpaper
i have skype steam running in the back
it takes 2 hours for it to drop to 50 and 4 hours to 0 from full charge on pretty much full on screen time
is this normal even on that kind of heavy usage
I would recommend using wakelock detector to see what's really soaking up your battery. It's a free application and it's pretty self explanatory. Charge up your phone and use it heavily again and report back to us with your findings through wake lock detector.
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Have push mail on ? My phone was empty very quick before the update .257 but now its much better.
I think if you mean with 4 hours onscreen it is normal otherwise it is not.
Use wakelock detector already mentioned
4 hours on screen time with full brightness sounds reasonable. I can play heavy games for about 3,5 to 4 hours with medium display brightness.
Always keep in mind that the display is the biggest power consumer in modern Smartphones.
OfficerTux said:
4 hours on screen time with full brightness sounds reasonable. I can play heavy games for about 3,5 to 4 hours with medium display brightness.
Always keep in mind that the display is the biggest power consumer in modern Smartphones.
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so the battery really is that bad?
using stamina it drops 20 or so % during the night
Actually the battery with its 3000 mAh is gigantic. And I think 4 Hours of heavy usage with full brightness is ok.
20% over night with STAMINA mode is too much though.
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Actually the battery with its 3000 mAh is gigantic. And I think 4 Hours of heavy usage with full brightness is ok.
20% over night with STAMINA mode is too much though.
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i have steam and skype whitlisted in stamina
really dissapointed in the battery life then
i guess theres no such thing as a full day of usage then
is there any smartphone that can handle that?
Do you actively use your phone all day (screen on all the time)?
With medium usage (WhatsApp, Surfing, Some calls) I can go for at least one, maybe two days.
I slept for 10 hours and my battery drained 9% with wifi and GSM on from full charge. your using the stock charger right? charging faster then recommended will reduce the life of the battery and can cause this kind of issue, but the phone is so new i wouldn't expect that to be the cause. I know the stock charger 1.5A. With a 2A charger it is likely the phone will charge at 2A.
Its probably a software related issue your having, but 20% overnight seems like a lot..
crusnikmachine said:
I slept for 10 hours and my battery drained 9% with wifi and GSM on from full charge. your using the stock charger right? charging faster then recommended will reduce the life of the battery and can cause this kind of issue, but the phone is so new i wouldn't expect that to be the cause. I know the stock charger 1.5A. With a 2A charger it is likely the phone will charge at 2A.
Its probably a software related issue your having, but 20% overnight seems like a lot..
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i use the dock charger
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i use the dock charger
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I would something is hitting your phone for wakelocks. 20% over night is a bit high. I know google currents is a know offender so uncheck that if you have it syncing. Try turning off google location access. Turn off gps and nfc. Using you phone at max brightness will always be very draining, leave on on auto unless your outside in daylight or in the car. Facebook is also bad for wakelocks. Any app that is polling for updates will be hard on battery. My experience has been a much improved battery life over my previous devices. On an average work day I leave at 8 and get home at 430, and I usually have 70-75 % by bedtime usually around 30%. I leave most my apps syncing all the time as well. I know the phone is new to you so I would say you might be playing with it more than you normally would.
zzcool said:
i have steam and skype whitlisted in stamina
really dissapointed in the battery life then
i guess theres no such thing as a full day of usage then
is there any smartphone that can handle that?
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I suspect that steam / skype will be preventing the phone from ever going to sleep.
I would suggest capping the max frequency of the cpu to quite slow or setting the governer to a conservative level (an app could be forcing the cpu to stay at a high frequency most of the time which will just drain the battery in no time)
However this usually requires a custom kernal or at least root which isn't very well developed on the Z1 yet.
If you can run a wakelock program that also logs the time spent at each cpu speed ... that would help people help you ...
As for any phone being able to handle it, unlikely the battery is relatively large but so is the screen, most phablets have only a fractionally bigger battery.
Only a full blown tablet will get you a much bigger battery that might be able to last you twice as long.
I typically go 3-4 days between charges on the .257 firmware without stamina mode and paired to a smartwatch 2.
I used to get 3 days on the 534 firmware with stamina mode! (i work in an area of very weak signal so i get 25% no signal time over a battery charge)
So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
Yes but I'm saying i get a max of 4 hours SOT with absolutely no gaming. All i do is text and use normal stuff like twitter and instagram.
My device at the same, up to 5 SOT
Do you think battery problems on this device?
Edit: 8-10 hours standby -> %10 battery drain...
Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
richiec64 said:
So I've had my phone a little over a month now and i never got amazing battery life, but compared to other phones it was solid. However, i see people with 6-7 hours of screen on time, when i struggle to squeeze 4 out of my phone. Typically i get down to about 10% with 17 hours total and 3.5 hours of screen on time. Also my phone usually turns off at 5-10% randomly, is this normal? Lastly, every so often if i let the battery run down until it turns off (8% or so) i get a screen that shows the battery sign with an exclamation mark on the inside. Is my phone defective or are peoples battery stats a matter of difference in usage.
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JasonJoel said:
SOT heavily depends on use and screen brightness.
I always get 6-7, auto brightness, no gaming.
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cascade128 said:
Do you think battery problems on this device?
Edit: 8-10 hours standby -> %10 battery drain...
Location - Battery saving(always)
Brightness - Auto(always)
Wifi - off(idle off- Scanning always available <-OFF)
Network - 2G(idle)
Bloatware - all disabled
Moto Apps - Only Moto Display -ON-
Facebook / Twitter - I don't use!
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6Binford said:
I typically see 1% battery drain for every hour in stand by and 10% for every hour of screen on time. After 24 hours with 2 hrs SOT, I'll be around 55%. I don't use WiFi or GPS very often.
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Just wait for Lollipop update and the excessive battery drain will be gone. With KitKat I had around 10% or more battery drain overnight, but now I'm having at most 1%-2% with the same synced settings, so it was a huge improve, believe me.
Besides this, try to disable Moto Actions (except camera wrist), keep those sensors awake all the time drain a lot of battery. The exclamation sign inside the battery should be present in around 5% battery left.
Also, as far as I know, Turbo will be updated directly to 5.1, so it would be better, but hope that Verizon crap-ware doesn’t ruin the update.
I am software version shown in ss
I just bought the phone and only getting sot 30 mins for 10% of battery consumption i got like 4 and half hour of sot for 73% battery consumption i thought x2 pro have around 8 hr sot help me it's frustrating
Well that calculates to more than 6h SOT, which isn't that unrealistic if you used 4g and max screen brightness all the time, but there might be something draining the battery. Check the usage details. I see you use something connected to bluetooth so that might be causing the issue.
Bro i was using the brightness at 27% and nothing was connected to the Bluetooth
I installed betterbatterystats (bbs) xda edition and gsam battery app with adb rights. So you can see the deep sleep with bbs and the times of dot/phone time/ect and which app use how many ampere.
In this charging time I get 4,5 hours dot with 40 hours phone is on. I have now 34%.
Debloating, netguard firewall, no energy saving, always 90 hz.
Also i am having fps dropping issue during online gaming like pubgm or codm
What should i do to get normal 60 fps as this phone has 855+ so i can get 60 fps normally
I'm having even worse SOT and I have the same realme ui version.
I'm not as much hardcore user as a lot of you and looking at 4k mah battery I thought that I will be getting at least 7h SOT.
I'm not playing any games, right now most of the time phone is connected to wifi. What should I do? Debloat my phone? Is it somehow dangerous for my software? Can i ever go back to normal version?
location services destroyes battery on this device
i disable it for one day just to see the difference and it went from 4 hours SOT to 6 hours plus
always talking full brightness wifi some 4g 90hz
and from 100% to 1%
You have like almost 30 hours of standby, and if you use always on display, then that's at least 30% on that. If you consider this then it doesn't look that bad. You do the math. The other guy's stats concern me more.
You will need to make some adjustments, battery can be excellent but you have to be realistic,
Check out App quick freeze and freeze the apps you don't use.
Dark mode,
AOD off,Screen light effects off,
You just got the phone,tinker with it a while to see,
Also battery will drain a lot when your setting up the first day
I currently own an original galaxy watch and love the 4 days of battery life . Don't like the random disconnects though. Thinking about buying the 45 mm bluetooth version of the gw3 but not excited about the battery life. How is the battery life now with the latest updates that promised better battery life?
My Galaxy Watch 3 is only a couple of months old, but so far a 17 hour day usually leaves me with about 70% when I put it on the charger at night.
With relatively heavy use, agree that battery life good. After 24 hours, still between 55-60%
GW3 Battery seems good. Definately better than my prior Galaxy Watch!
I use AOD, with a brightness hack, and constant heart rate monitoring. I'd say it's good for about a day and a half. Only minor complaint is it doesn't turn the display back on when you wake up, you have do that yourself (and sometimes a few times until it recognizes you're really up and active).
Workout tracking is a HUGE battery drain. Again with constant monitoring and screen set to not sleep, a 1-hr walk with heart rate and GPS will burn about 20% of the battery!
If it matters, it charges quite slowly. About 2.5 hours from 0 to 100%. So heavy use, and maybe an hour-long workout, and you're going to have to put it on the charger for about 2 hours every day.
So it seems that battery life is around 2 to 2.5 days then with normal use. About 1.5 to 1 day shorter than the og gw. Hmmm something to think about. I am also looking at the fitbit sense for the 6+ days battery life. Its a toss up.
As per my opinion battery life for Watch 3 is not good. Earlier i was using Huawei Watch GT2e, battery life was 9-10 days.
I do not use workout detection (or any workout function ) and a simple watch-face (weather, dual time, date and battery %) it takes around 3 days on battery! pretty good.
At the beginning I used to use complex watch-faces and the drain was huge like one day and half.
jhcomputerguy said:
I currently own an original galaxy watch and love the 4 days of battery life . Don't like the random disconnects though. Thinking about buying the 45 mm bluetooth version of the gw3 but not excited about the battery life. How is the battery life now with the latest updates that promised better battery life?
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Wanna buy mine? I had a few financial problems and need the money
My honest advice....if you're going to take advantage of all the features a smartwatch offers, then expect to live with charging every day or every other day. If not, there's really not much reason to spend the money.
If that's a deal-breaker, or if you don't want to use all the features, then maybe get yourself a nice non-smartwatch. Or get a fitbit that just tracks sleep and heart rate. Don't waste your money and convenience on a smartwatch just for telling the time. Or look into the Oura ring which is a pretty nice overall health tracker that gets about 5-6 days of battery life.
kodiak799 said:
I use AOD, with a brightness hack, and constant heart rate monitoring. I'd say it's good for about a day and a half. Only minor complaint is it doesn't turn the display back on when you wake up, you have do that yourself (and sometimes a few times until it recognizes you're really up and active).
Workout tracking is a HUGE battery drain. Again with constant monitoring and screen set to not sleep, a 1-hr walk with heart rate and GPS will burn about 20% of the battery!
If it matters, it charges quite slowly. About 2.5 hours from 0 to 100%. So heavy use, and maybe an hour-long workout, and you're going to have to put it on the charger for about 2 hours every day.
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What settings are you using?
I use AOD with stock watchface and brightness set to 6.
HR tracking set to every 10 minute.
Auto workout detection disabled.
The Watch barely make it through the day with 20% battery left when i put it back in the charger
Am i the only one getting such battery life? (maybe battery issue?)
My experience is different. If I do any exercising and have it continually monitor heart rate, speed, lap times etc, and its typically for 1 to 2 hours, then the watch doesn't make it through the day.
ekerbuddyeker said:
My experience is different. If I do any exercising and have it continually monitor heart rate, speed, lap times etc, and its typically for 1 to 2 hours, then the watch doesn't make it through the day.
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How to you turn those features off? All I really want is heart rate.
I use
liorm0505 said:
What settings are you using?
I use AOD with stock watchface and brightness set to 6.
HR tracking set to every 10 minute.
Auto workout detection disabled.
The Watch barely make it through the day with 20% battery left when i put it back in the charger
Am i the only one getting such battery life? (maybe battery issue?)
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I have continuous heart rate monitoring. I have notifications (from phone) disabled. AOD with brightness set to 4 and no auto brightness. Wake gestures and Bixby turned off. Sleep monitoring enabled.
And with all that, and one of my brighter more battery eating watchfaces (with a dim mode hack)....I was at 25% after 22 hours. So had I exercised for an hour with GPS and continuous monitoring, I would have had @12% left and just made it 24 hours, except in reality it would be on the charger for 2 of those hours. Other watchfaces I have fair a little better.
Doing an experiment between continuous HR monitoring and every 10 minutes. I don't think it's more than 10% additional battery drain over the entire day.
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I use
I have continuous heart rate monitoring. I have notifications (from phone) disabled. AOD with brightness set to 4 and no auto brightness. Wake gestures and Bixby turned off. Sleep monitoring enabled.
And with all that, and one of my brighter more battery eating watchfaces (with a dim mode hack)....I was at 25% after 22 hours. So had I exercised for an hour with GPS and continuous monitoring, I would have had @12% left and just made it 24 hours, except in reality it would be on the charger for 2 of those hours. Other watchfaces I have fair a little better.
Doing an experiment between continuous HR monitoring and every 10 minutes. I don't think it's more than 10% additional battery drain over the entire day.
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Hi, what is the Dim Mode hack you mention? Thanks
wilx said:
Hi, what is the Dim Mode hack you mention? Thanks
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I posted a thread way back, it's probably one of the older threads on this GW3 forum.
You need to be using Watch Maker, and also Tasker. Basically, there's a glitch that tricks the display into being brighter. It probably costs about 1-1.5% battery life per hour. I've found brightness set at 4 with autobrightness off gives a very consistent brightness between active and dim modes. A lot of my favorite watch faces were otherwise barely readable in dim mode.
I have it with Facer app dimmed mode and not black screen, watch always-on is enabled, brightness set to 4, heart sensor is set to scan continuously, stays up to 20 hours which is more than enough, to be honest in my opinion...
I'm very unimpressed with battery life on the watch. Any day i excerise with continuous monitoring (for 2 hours), it's likely to run out long before end of the day. Occasionally I get a battery warning while running, and that's the worst. It's meant to be a health tracking device. Battery is too small IMHO
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I'm very unimpressed with battery life on the watch. Any day i excerise with continuous monitoring (for 2 hours), it's likely to run out long before end of the day. Occasionally I get a battery warning while running, and that's the worst. It's meant to be a health tracking device. Battery is too small IMHO
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I'd say get in touch with Samsung service center, 2 hours most likely your watch battery has manufactury defect, my watch has the heart sensor set to continuous auto-detect work out with wifi and GPS turned on and besides the other things I said, stays solid 18-20 hours, Samsung Health App syncs heart rate and shows me everything, it shows me even my sleep...
I do not see this anywhere, there are two different size watches and each has a different size battery. The 41 will not last as long as the 44.