Hello all !
I install a few months ago the cm 4.2.2 , but my sister always complain ...
so here my question what os is the best for the galaxy s ? what OS version need less memory ? the i9000 have only 512 ram.
i use the firmware from cyanogen.
thanks for your further reply.
mitomon said:
Hello all !
I install a few months ago the cm 4.2.2 , but my sister always complain ...
so here my question what os is the best for the galaxy s ? what OS version need less memory ? the i9000 have only 512 ram.
i use the firmware from cyanogen.
thanks for your further reply.
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If you want a responsive phone with good battery life, you should really go with ICS. I tried quite a lot Jelly Bean and KitKat roms and all of them are really slow compared to ICS. Kasper_h recently started a new ICS rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660668
So if you want a fast rom, you should give it a try. The 720p recording issues can be fixed using a different kernel. Because of the partition layout it's reported to have some problems if you install a lot of apps. CM9.1 is also quite nice...
rasm523 said:
If you want a responsive phone with good battery life, you should really go with ICS. I tried quite a lot Jelly Bean and KitKat roms and all of them are really slow compared to ICS. Kasper_h recently started a new ICS rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660668
So if you want a fast rom, you should give it a try. The 720p recording issues can be fixed using a different kernel. Because of the partition layout it's reported to have some problems if you install a lot of apps. CM9.1 is also quite nice...
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Hi,
Thanks for the reply,
ICS use less memory than Jb or KK ? Or there just less features ?
Thanks
mitomon said:
ICS use less memory than Jb or KK ? Or there just less features?
Thanks
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I'm not a developer and not really familiar with all the internals of the phone and the android versions. But for ICS there are kernels available with over 400 MB of ram (395 MB, if you need 720p video recording). I'm not sure, if this is absolutely impossible with KitKat, but CyanAOSP for example (which is supposed to be "Fast, stable and intended for gamers") only has 368 MB ram. But I guess the main problem is, that there are a lot more background services running which comsume battery, ram and CPU time. On my current ICS rom I have 150 MB of free ram (about 10 apps installed). With KitKat I usually had a maximum of 50 MB...
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I'm not a developer and not really familiar with all the internals of the phone and the android versions. But for ICS there are kernels available with over 400 MB of ram (395 MB, if you need 720p video recording). I'm not sure, if this is absolutely impossible with KitKat, but CyanAOSP for example (which is supposed to be "Fast, stable and intended for gamers") only has 368 MB ram. But I guess the main problem is, that there are a lot more background services running which comsume battery, ram and CPU time. On my current ICS rom I have 150 MB of free ram (about 10 apps installed). With KitKat I usually had a maximum of 50 MB...
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Hi,
Thanks for reply,
In my case i really don't care about 720p video recording.
The phone is not for gaming purpose , only web, communication app and maybe solitaire .
now i need to find the best release of "CyanAOSP" .....
Thanks
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Whats the best rom available right now for the N1? I haven't tested my N1 with anything in a while been running MIUI but I'm finding it to be sort of laggy now with apps installed.
Fastest? Hmm, pretty much any CM7 self-kang.
This one by samuaz is really fast: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416894
Is that the most stable rom available for nexus one right now?
with multiple full wipes to include system both are stable for me
with ICS by samuaz you need to follow op page exactly
Temaseks latest CM7 Kang with scroll zip is BLAZING
I use now ICS by samuaz, it's fast and really stable. But it's an alpha version!
When you think it's important to have a stable rom, then
use CM7. CM7 roms are as stable as stock, but better ;-)
worth upgrading to ICS or JB?
hello. I realize this thread hasn't been active in a while, but I am thinking to bring back my Nexus One from the grave so I can have a backup phone for my daughter to play with in the car/plane. I wanted to ask if it is worth installing ICS or JB ROMs that are out there. I just have the stock ROM in there now and I always struggled with low memory and lag with some newer apps, that's why I've upgraded phones (I've have a Galaxy Nexus now).
I don't have intentions to put a SIM card in there, so I don't really care about phone call features.. only purely from a processing and lightweight standpoint.
Has anybody played enough with GB vs ICS and/or JB and weighed if it's worth upgrading? I'm assuming that it's worth it because so many developers still have Nexus One ROMs... that's why I would just go ahead and install it, but then I'm thinking again if it's just going to bog down the phone if I'm going to only use it for simple games.
Thanks in advance!!
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Hello! I have installed the CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.2 v6.0 that is based on CyanogenMod and Evervolv, and works fine for me. I also have installed all the /data partition in the SD card with the A2SD script that is incorporated in the ROM... it generates some few lags, but I didn't have had any problem of lack of space again.
In my opinion, this is the ROM of JB that best preserves the native Android interface, and in my case is stable (until 7 days without to require a reboot!).
Other JB ROMs that users frequently use are PARANOIDANDROID and PixelDroid.
Thanks for the quick response! That is the ROM I was thinking of as well. However, just as a comparison, I'm thinking to flash a clean version of GB back onto the phone as well. Any recommendations on any GB ROMs as well? Thanks!
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Hello! I have installed the CM10.1 VJ Jelly Bean 4.2.2 v6.0 that is based on CyanogenMod and Evervolv, and works fine for me. I also have installed all the /data partition in the SD card with the A2SD script that is incorporated in the ROM... it generates some few lags, but I didn't have had any problem of lack of space again.
In my opinion, this is the ROM of JB that best preserves the native Android interface, and in my case is stable (until 7 days without to require a reboot!).
Other JB ROMs that users frequently use are PARANOIDANDROID and PixelDroid.
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Thanks for the quick response! That is the ROM I was thinking of as well. However, just as a comparison, I'm thinking to flash a clean version of GB back onto the phone as well. Any recommendations on any GB ROMs as well? Thanks!
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Sorry, but I can't help on it. I didn't install any GB ROM further than the stock ROM. In my opinion, I think that a stable, complete and functional ROM might be CyanogenMod 7.2. Maybe other XDA members can help you better on it...
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Sorry, but I can't help on it. I didn't install any GB ROM further than the stock ROM. In my opinion, I think that a stable, complete and functional ROM might be CyanogenMod 7.2. Maybe other XDA members can help you better on it...
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No problem. I'll probably end up trying both out. Thanks again for the response. By the way, what do you use your N1 for now or is that you main phone? I was playing around with it yesterday and I still like it a lot - I always liked the trackball.
plz tell me the best jb rom ri8 now?
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No problem. I'll probably end up trying both out. Thanks again for the response. By the way, what do you use your N1 for now or is that you main phone? I was playing around with it yesterday and I still like it a lot - I always liked the trackball.
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This is my main phone. In several times I though changing to other new Nexus device, but the screen size of new devices is too big for me! I like a screen size from 3.7 to 4.0, that is good to read mails, a brief navigation in the Internet, and other minor issues. For other intensive uses, I have my tablet Nexus 10 or my laptop.
If you want JB, get Galaxy Young S6310.
It's the same phone as mini2, just different design, more RAM, CPU preclocked to 1GHz, and JB 4.1.2 preinstalled. It has the same price as the mini 2.
S6310 has 768MB of RAM. mini 2 only has 512MB. It's enough for 4.1, but not enough for optimal performance. Look at Xperia E, every reviewer has noticed lags with the official 4.1 on it.
I fully agree with TheWhisp's post about how we use drivers not suited for 4.2 (or 4.1 too). Without official LIB's and official kernel, we'll always have a half-baked CM. And that's not TheWhisp's problem. It's Samsung's problem for releasing new models every three seconds, and ditching support for the older models. WE WON'T HAVE JB ON MINI 2! THEY HAVE S6310 FOR THIS PROBLEM!
CM should only be an option, not a necessity that every mini 2 user should install, just because there's nothing else for our phone.
Look at Sony's Live With Walkman, it has 512MB of RAM too. Everyone is reporting better performance on official 2.3.6, than in official 4.0.4!
The BEST thing for our phone would be a new kernel for 2.3.6. Not the squadzone's, because it has some problems with certain stock ROM's. Isn't it sad that we only have ONE custom kernel for 2.3.6. And only TWO good ROM's for mini 2? (CM10 and CM10.1). I knows there's many 2.3.6 ROM's but they are mostly just squadzone's kernel + additional visual tweaks + removed bloatware + useless build.prop modifications, simply because there's nothing else to do with 2.3.6. I know it might sound like I'm begging you, but why don't make a new kernel for 2.3.6? With fix for the famous LK2 no-WiFi bug, and perhaps better performance.
I do not want this phone's development to be stale and almost non-existent.
If I didn't have to start school in 2 days, I would be a developer and help with everything, but there's more important stuff than mini 2. I'm just proposing an idea.
MrMateczko said:
If you want JB, get Galaxy Young S6310.
It's the same phone as mini2, just different design, more RAM, CPU preclocked to 1GHz, and JB 4.1.2 preinstalled. It has the same price as the mini 2.
S6310 has 768MB of RAM. mini 2 only has 512MB. It's enough for 4.1, but not enough for optimal performance. Look at Xperia E, every reviewer has noticed lags with the official 4.1 on it.
I fully agree with TheWhisp's post about how we use drivers not suited for 4.2 (or 4.1 too). Without official LIB's and official kernel, we'll always have a half-baked CM. And that's not TheWhisp's problem. It's Samsung's problem for releasing new models every three seconds, and ditching support for the older models. WE WON'T HAVE JB ON MINI 2! THEY HAVE S6310 FOR THIS PROBLEM!
CM should only be an option, not a necessity that every mini 2 user should install, just because there's nothing else for our phone.
Look at Sony's Live With Walkman, it has 512MB of RAM too. Everyone is reporting better performance on official 2.3.6, than in official 4.0.4!
The BEST thing for our phone would be a new kernel for 2.3.6. Not the squadzone's, because it has some problems with certain stock ROM's. Isn't it sad that we only have ONE custom kernel for 2.3.6. And only TWO good ROM's for mini 2? (CM10 and CM10.1). I knows there's many 2.3.6 ROM's but they are mostly just squadzone's kernel + additional visual tweaks + removed bloatware + useless build.prop modifications, simply because there's nothing else to do with 2.3.6. I know it might sound like I'm begging you, but why don't make a new kernel for 2.3.6? With fix for the famous LK2 no-WiFi bug, and perhaps better performance.
I do not want this phone's development to be stale and almost non-existent.
If I didn't have to start school in 2 days, I would be a developer and help with everything, but there's more important stuff than mini 2. I'm just proposing an idea.
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Okay, i've corrected some typing errors in your post. Typing errors fixed are in bold.
And, i agree with you.
Errors fixed. Also, Android has not ditched any support for 2.3.6, it still is the second most used version to date, so why not?
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Errors fixed. Also, Android has not ditched any support for 2.3.6, it still is the second most used version to date, so why not?
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Yeah, it's also the stablest one to date. CM7.2 also loads alots of customization than CM9, CM10 or even 10.1 and 10.2.
You are right. I have squadzone kernel but i wanted some better. Someone that could make a new kernel and, why not, also a new rom.
PS: someone should make a list with all roms for our device, like in other forums.
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Yes. I have to agree with you. There no need to wait for official jellybean anymore. I think Samsung also headache how to make a smooth jellybean rom on low end device. For low end device, I think gingerbread is better.
I list down what I want in mini 2 :good:
ROM:
- Based on latest 2.3.6 firmware
- Bloatwares removed
- Deoxeded
- Zipaligned
- Tweaks to make it more faster and smooth compared to stock
- Themed (optional) - Galaxy S4 icon,font, new accuweather, blue statusbar instead of shiny green, percentage battery, beautiful bootscreen
- anything good for user
Kernel
- kernel build based on goals "smooth,fast,battery saving,stable"
- 3 step different freq 200,500,800 MHz (non OC kernel), 4 step 200,500,800,1000 MHz (OC kernel)
- tweaks to make it smooth and stable experience for user
- anything good for user
If only I am capable on doing all this.....:
Thank you for your post, you've bought some interesting ideas. I would personally have the ROM Odexed, as the performance would be better.
I think I would add the 6th step in the OC kernel, which would be 1126MHz, for max performance.
But I'm no kernel compiler. Although I will try to change the squadzone's kernel logo to show S6500 and not S6500D, as it's the wrong model I have.
I'm thinking about sorting stuff out with all the components we currently have. But that takes time.
I don't like huge theming, the only awesome thing for me would be the percentage battery.
Cm 10.1 works even faster than stock for me. Games work well too.
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That's good for you, but this isn't a topic to bash CM10(.1;.2), it's simply an idea that we should have a much wider choices of custom ROMs for mini 2.
Well, we already have plenty. Maybe when thewhisp finishes working on 10.1 which is nearly complete he will grace us with cm 7. Just an idea.
We also need more devs, i dont see many ppl working on jena roms
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Yes I agree with low end device work faster in 2.3.6 than 4.0 and above. My brother own xperia tipo and it is lagging on 4.0.4. I guess it is better if it on 2.3.6. While my sister own mini 2 S6500D running on 2.3.6.
I mention about theming before, it is not heavy theming mate. I also like you. I prefer profesional look and minimalist theme. A theme that have clean,neat and professional look from boot screen to user interface. And yes % battery would be great.
But sadly low end device not much developers, so we may have to wait.
My phone works twice as fast on CM 10.1.
No major bugs or anything.
Overclocked to 1Ghz.
Runs smoother than before.
Works faster than s3 mini on stock (tested with antutu)
I dont see why this phone wont work with oficial jellybean.
Galaxy Music has 512 ram and works grat with oficial jellybean.
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My phone works twice as fast on CM 10.1.
No major bugs or anything.
Overclocked to 1Ghz.
Runs smoother than before.
Works faster than s3 mini on stock (tested with antutu)
I dont see why this phone wont work with oficial jellybean.
Galaxy Music has 512 ram and works grat with oficial jellybean.
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Not the galaxy music only the galaxy star /galaxy star pro / galaxy trend and some other devices can't remember their names now.
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Galaxy chat works fine too
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GT-S6310 laggs terribly on 4.1, same as GT-S7560 on 4.0
Hey guys,
I was just wondring..
Kitkat and JB were not intended to be for the SGS.. But how do they "cope" with it?
Do KK and JB just provide the fun of the latest Android versions while decreasing performance? Or are all Android versions pretty much the same as they are moded to fit SGS?
In very simple words: Are lower Android versions (As back as the official 2.3.6 if I am correct) better for SGS?
Thank you.
more or less the same performance.
it's not that the phone is slow - just those apps and games are getting heavier
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more or less the same performance.
it's not that the phone is slow - just those apps and games are getting heavier
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Are you sure? Because there is that partitioning thing that is different from version to version.. I dont know if there are any more major differences but I guess that the partitioning is one of them.
How do they even make versions like KK for SGS? I mean.. If it works on SGS, why wouldn't Samsung/Google release it for SGS?
1.Android is open source.That's how SGS got ics,jb,kk.
2.Shamesung doesn't care about happy users after their official support ends.They are pushing you to buy a new phone to enjoy latest&greatest.It's a pure business.
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1.Android is open source.That's how SGS got ics,jb,kk.
2.Shamesung doesn't care about happy users after their official support ends.They are pushing you to buy a new phone to enjoy latest&greatest.It's a pure business.
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PC's are open source too.. Not all of them can get the latest updates and versions of Windows..
And again: "Are you sure? Because there is that partitioning thing that is different from version to version.. I dont know if there are any more major differences but I guess that the partitioning is one of them."
I dont think there is a logical reason from Samsung not to release the latest versions of Android to their "Homemade" developed devices..
It will just make their customers more trusty. That Samsung will always make updates to their devices, even the old ones. Unlike other companies.
SGS is kinda ****ty on it's own.. No Android version will transform it to SGS2 or 3 or 4 or 10...
I don't get you man.
This "partitions thing" is not a feature or so,it's simply the locations in your nand memory dedicated for certain rom parts,like /data or /system etc partitions that you have to wipe before flashing a rom for example.
As for roms it's simple - live with shamesung's outdated,althouh stable,gb or froyo or enjoy these awesome ics,jb and kk roms our great devs gave to us.
SGS can handle them all.
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I don't get you man.
This "partitions thing" is not a feature or so,it's simply the locations in your nand memory dedicated for certain rom parts,like /data or /system etc partitions that you have to wipe before flashing a rom for example.
As for roms it's simple - live with shamesung's outdated,althouh stable,gb or froyo or enjoy these awesome ics,jb and kk roms our great devs gave to us.
SGS can handle them all.
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The partitioning thing effects the speed of the ROM/file access, atleast that's what I understood.. I dont know..
And what's so awesome about ICS,JB or KK? They seem the same.. So here and there they change the camera interface or something like that.. So? What's so special in any of these versions?
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The partitioning thing effects the speed of the ROM/file access, atleast that's what I understood.. I dont know..
And what's so awesome about ICS,JB or KK? They seem the same.. So here and there they change the camera interface or something like that.. So? What's so special in any of these versions?
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Customization,new features,frequently updated,more support from apps and games devs(android versions older than 4.0 is at the end of their lifetime) and so on...
Most of the changes in recent versions are under the hood,the only visually huge leap was from gb to ics imho.
Also,as google claims,kitkat is optimized for low memory devices,so it should fly on your sgs.
Have a look at this:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557608
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Customization,new features,frequently updated,more support from apps and games devs(android versions older than 4.0 is at the end of their lifetime) and so on...
Most of the changes in recent versions are under the hood,the only visually huge leap was from gb to ics imho.
Also,as google claims,kitkat is optimized for low memory devices,so it should fly on your sgs.
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Ok, thanks.
May I ask why dont you use KK?
And I understood already that you dont like "best rom" questions.. But is there a very light, clean and stable ROM with KK?
I found this the cleanest: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542131
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Ok, thanks.
May I ask why dont you use KK?
And I understood already that you dont like "best rom" questions.. But is there a very light, clean and stable ROM with KK?
I found this the cleanest: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542131
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Looks like a great rom to me.Try.
I'm using kk,but on i9001,cm11 by devcon team to be exact.
On the S2 side,I'm waiting until this "music bug" we have there in kk will be solved.Btw,I'm in love with my current setup
best rom ?
Hi,
From what I've tested:
- best GB rom is SAUROM: it looks old but it's fast and you have FM radio & great battery life!
- JB : I've tested µXylon, which was a good rom, but sadly was discontinued. Crom was really good too !
- KK : my fisrt rom on KK was CyanAOSP but it was damn laggy, I don't know why. So I switched to SlimKat (actually using stable 3.0, 4.0 coming soon :laugh and now I'm happy with it (but it's still slower than JB !)
I haven't tested any ICS rom but it seems that custom ICS roms are faster & lighter than JB and KK.
Sorry for my english :laugh:
I've installed al lot of ROMs, from GB to the lastest KK. I've noticed that JB runs very smooth, but kitkat manages the RAM in a better way. What do you think?
For daily use, I prefer ICS ROMs 4.0.4. Especially Tiramislim V2.0 with Devil Kernel and Hugemem option. This build is a bit outdated but I think it offers the best performance for our old device. It lacks some features from Jelly Bean and KitKat ROMs but if you don't need them, you will be satisfied. I also prefer freezing Google Play Services in Titanium Backup if you don't use Keep, latest YouTube, Drive or Gmail. You can replace it with external apps effortless. It saves a lot of RAM in SGS. I think it's worth to give it a try.
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For daily use, I prefer ICS ROMs 4.0.4. Especially Tiramislim V2.0 with Devil Kernel and Hugemem option. This build is a bit outdated but I think it offers the best performance for our old device. It lacks some features from Jelly Bean and KitKat ROMs but if you don't need them, you will be satisfied. I also prefer freezing Google Play Services in Titanium Backup if you don't use Keep, latest YouTube, Drive or Gmail. You can replace it with external apps effortless. It saves a lot of RAM in SGS. I think it's worth to give it a try.
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I totally deny with Tiramislim V2.0 with devil kernel. I faced similar issue with two of my device . After flashing it, you'll be unable to flash any other ROM and eventually it'll corrupt your partition table and boot loader. have you tried playing any game for more than 20 minutes. Try it , then you'll see the problem.
My recommendation,
Mackay ICS or Mackay KK :- They never disappoint.
Slim 4.3
Aokp 4.1
Helly Bean 4.1
Aokp 4.0
Hello!
i was using CM Rom for 2 years , but sadly the CM's team stoped upgrading the rom for Cm12 , so i searched for another rom , i found the OmniRom , flashed it nd used for 3 months it's a good looking rom , clean , and fast , but i should keep the cpu on (max 1400 ,min 400) and that makes the phone too hot while charge and drain the battery fast .
so should i back to CM11 , or could anyone help me to slove this proplem ?!
ART based ROMs are a little too much for our phone, IMO. They work, and you even can get used to their speed, but generally you can get better multitasking (more RAM) and battery life with older ROMs.
I would recommend to use kitkat or jellybean roms for real life usage scenarios.
Personally I use SuperNexus rom, based on pure 4.2.2 (not CM) with Semaphore kernel. SGS is my secondary phone now. I tried Lollipop/Marshmallow, but they halfed available RAM, which is crucial for our phone. Kitkat is OK, but still ~20% less RAM than JB. That sometimes leads to browser is unable to load some heavy web page.
I still think, it's fantastic, that SGS is able to run the latest android version. 5 year phone!
ONjA said:
ART based ROMs are a little too much for our phone, IMO. They work, and you even can get used to their speed, but generally you can get better multitasking (more RAM) and battery life with older ROMs.
I would recommend to use kitkat or jellybean roms for real life usage scenarios.
Personally I use SuperNexus rom, based on pure 4.2.2 (not CM) with Semaphore kernel. SGS is my secondary phone now. I tried Lollipop/Marshmallow, but they halfed available RAM, which is crucial for our phone. Kitkat is OK, but still ~20% less RAM than JB. That sometimes leads to browser is unable to load some heavy web page.
I still think, it's fantastic, that SGS is able to run the latest android version. 5 year phone!
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can u give a link for your rom pls? is this ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40767015#post40767015
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can u give a link for your rom pls? is this ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40767015#post40767015
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Yes, this is it.