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Streaming XBMC to Chromecast

Would you like to stream XBMC through Avia to Chromecast?
Put this https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8pl1adtlo8rp90/playercorefactory.xml in sdcard/android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/userdata
Now Avia is the player allowing you to chromecast.
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Wow thanks, worked perfectly. Just a note, I had to clear the cache for my xbmc app to get it to load first.

Can't get it to work.. any more details on how to make it work?

What your doing with XBMC is not all that different than what you do with aVia using Plex...
The difference is XBMC has no transcoding capability on it's DLNA server so if the files are not CCast compatible you may run into some issues with those.
It will work as will any DLNA server you could be running.

Can u tell me step by step to cast from xbmc app ?
I have xbmc app in my Nexus 4.

Oh I was using 1channel and streaming I guess that don't work.

Yeah, thanks for this, but how do I get xbmc to stream to cc? I have this file in where you said, and i have cleared cache for both avia and xbmc, but I see no cc button in xbmc or anything like that. how do I get all 3 to see each other?

stewwmann said:
Yeah, thanks for this, but how do I get xbmc to stream to cc? I have this file in where you said, and i have cleared cache for both avia and xbmc, but I see no cc button in xbmc or anything like that. how do I get all 3 to see each other?
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You don't stream it from XBMC you are just routing it through aVia....
It would seem that all your doing is adding player profiles to XBMC (android) which may make it work or be seen by aVia.

Ya I installed like u said but still not sure how to stream.

All I did too get this to work was follow the first post, cleared caches and rebooted my S4. I launched xbmc and When I picked what I wanted to watch avia launched and I hit the cast button. All was good depending on what file type the show in.

Does this simply play local media through XBMC or will it play add on channels also?
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argonzal said:
Does this simply play local media through XBMC or will it play add on channels also?
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Depends on the format. Some sources work fine, some doesn't.
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I couldn't get this to work with the build from official XBMC site, but is working well with XAF build from here.
http://www.xbmcandroid.com/2013/05/...-xaf-custom-build-of-xbmc-for-android-is-out/
If installing XAF build you will need to uninstall official build first as it is signed differently (you can back up with XBMC Backup).

argonzal said:
Does this simply play local media through XBMC or will it play add on channels also?
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jasenko said:
Depends on the format. Some sources work fine, some doesn't.
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Many of those channels use streaming methods that are incompatible with CCast at this point in time. It's a good bet that if the streams require an external player ext in Chrome to play, they will not work on the CCast since it has no ability to add extensions to it's limited Chrome implementation.
Many of those channels are available freely on the web and may even be made available in Real Player as channels. (Not sure I don't have Real Player installed) so that might be the way to see that content on CCast.
Unfortunately it is not likely that something like Plex that has transcoding will be able to transcode those files due to the fact that they are streams and not files and Transcoders don't like to wait around for input.
Me personally while I like the channel capabilities in XBMC and Plex I would much rather the content providers support CCast in their own Apps which most have available because then when they change their system for storage their App will change to reflect that as opposed to jst stop working which is common with Channels on Plex and XBMC,
OH and for the record I'm not sure but it seems very likely that the OP was referring to XBMC for Android not XBMC for other Operating systems as far as local content is concerned.
And while it may be true the fact is aVia should be able to see the same files XBMC Android can see on the device and since XBMC does not transcode at all you really not gaining anything other than the importing of the XBMC library to make navigation easier.

Asphyx said:
Unfortunately it is not likely that something like Plex that has transcoding will be able to transcode those files due to the fact that they are streams and not files and Transcoders don't like to wait around for input.
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It's interesting that almost all the Plex streaming channels work with a Roku box as the client player, but none of them work with the Chromecast. Perhaps Roku does something substantially different, perhaps it's just a matter of testing and debugging (Roku is the #1 client for Plex), or perhaps Google has no intention of allowing Plex channels on the CC.

DJames1 said:
It's interesting that almost all the Plex streaming channels work with a Roku box as the client player, but none of them work with the Chromecast. Perhaps Roku does something substantially different, perhaps it's just a matter of testing and debugging (Roku is the #1 client for Plex), or perhaps Google has no intention of allowing Plex channels on the CC.
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I don't find it all that interesting...Roku is a much more robust box than Chromecast is. It doesn't rely on a single browser for everything the way CCast does.
CCast is not meant as another version of Roku, It is another version of Miracast and if you look it in that way you see Chromecast is far superior to what it is competing with.
and truth is as recently as a year ago Roku didn't even support DLNA at all....
It took a 3rd Party developer to create an APP that would see and play DLNA content.

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It's interesting that almost all the Plex streaming channels work with a Roku box as the client player, but none of them work with the Chromecast. Perhaps Roku does something substantially different, perhaps it's just a matter of testing and debugging (Roku is the #1 client for Plex), or perhaps Google has no intention of allowing Plex channels on the CC.
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Don't have any real data to prove it, but it seems like Plex tries to route the external stream through the server to your device and then to Chromecast. I managed to start a couple of streams (out of about 20 that I tried) through Plex and unsupported channels, but XBMC was perfect every time providing Chromecast supports the format and the stream was available on the third party site. I mainly wanted and was playing around with XBMC on Android to be able to watch the stuff from some of the channels, but vGET just "killed" that fun for me, working perfectly so far for everything I tried.

When searching through sdcard/android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/userdata. I couldn't find the userdata folder so I created one. Tried to place the file into it and no luck, even tried placing it in the /files folder. I'm testing this on my HP touchpad jellybean 4.3

jasenko said:
Don't have any real data to prove it, but it seems like Plex tries to route the external stream through the server to your device and then to Chromecast. I managed to start a couple of streams (out of about 20 that I tried) through Plex and unsupported channels, but XBMC was perfect every time providing Chromecast supports the format and the stream was available on the third party site. I mainly wanted and was playing around with XBMC on Android to be able to watch the stuff from some of the channels, but vGET just "killed" that fun for me, working perfectly so far for everything I tried.
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I believe (and I'm guessing) Plex is (as far as channels are concerned) is trying to do what aVia currently does with content only instead of the player acting as the middleman Plex tries to use the server.
But I don't believe it is transcoding as much as merely stripping the feed from the source web it came from and sending you just the video stream part.

Same here. Çant find the user data file.
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When searching through sdcard/android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/userdata. I couldn't find the userdata folder so I created one. Tried to place the file into it and no luck, even tried placing it in the /files folder. I'm testing this on my HP touchpad jellybean 4.3
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Are they really H.264/MPEG-4 files?

First of all I know this section is for the Cromecast and all my MP4 video play using it with Avia.
If you happen to have a DLNA TV when you cast from Avia you’ll see your TV as an option. Back some time ago I decided to try it and all my videos would try to play but an “unsupported video format” message would appear.
I dropped a message to Avia Tech support but never heard from them till about a week or so ago. After a bunch of emails back/forth, they found a Samsung Smart TV in their office. They tried it and found most but not all videos played and received the same error as I did.
I then asked them to try BubbleUPnP with Avia since all my videos play this way. They tried it and although a few more played some still didn’t meaning that BubbleUPNp does some transcoding and Avia just passes the file as is. So even Avia Tech Support has MP4's that a certain device doesn't like!
Okay the problem seems to be the Samsung Smart TV but it brings up the point that not all MP4’s are created equal even though I used HandBrake which is what Avia Tech Support suggests to use.
BTW- My TV has the latest firmware. The Samsung DLNA app used by the TV is called AllShare. It later was changed to AllShare Play and recently Samsung Link. Now Samsung Link/AllShare Play is available in the Play Store but shows to not compatible with my Nexus 10. I don’t know what’s included in the newer Samsung Smart TV’s or if it’s still called AllShare or not.

wptski said:
Okay the problem seems to be the Samsung Smart TV but it brings up the point that not all MP4’s are created equal even though I used HandBrake which is what Avia Tech Support suggests to use.
BTW- My TV has the latest firmware. The Samsung DLNA app used by the TV is called AllShare. It later was changed to AllShare Play and recently Samsung Link. Now Samsung Link/AllShare Play is available in the Play Store but shows to not compatible with my Nexus 10. I don’t know what’s included in the newer Samsung Smart TV’s or if it’s still called AllShare or not.
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Oh yes, very true!
The same holds for MPEG-2. DVD uses MPEG-2, but it uses a specific range of parameters - left alone to mess with all the available settings it's easy to create non-DVD-compliant MPEG-2, just as it's easy to create non-Chromecast-compliant MPEG-4, non-iPod-compliant MPEG-4 audio, etc.
It's a lot like clothes - simply knowing it's "Men's dress shirt" is not enough to know it will fit.
Even knowing it's "Large men's dress shirt" won't guarantee a fit.
Short of trying it on, you need to get the measurements.
I think on my phone the AllShare stuff is now called Samsung Hub, except for the actual playback function, which is still called AllShare Play, as opposed to AllShare Cast. *shrug*

wptski said:
First of all I know this section is for the Cromecast and all my MP4 video play using it with Avia.
If you happen to have a DLNA TV when you cast from Avia you’ll see your TV as an option. Back some time ago I decided to try it and all my videos would try to play but an “unsupported video format” message would appear.
I dropped a message to Avia Tech support but never heard from them till about a week or so ago. After a bunch of emails back/forth, they found a Samsung Smart TV in their office. They tried it and found most but not all videos played and received the same error as I did.
I then asked them to try BubbleUPnP with Avia since all my videos play this way. They tried it and although a few more played some still didn’t meaning that BubbleUPNp does some transcoding and Avia just passes the file as is. So even Avia Tech Support has MP4's that a certain device doesn't like!
Okay the problem seems to be the Samsung Smart TV but it brings up the point that not all MP4’s are created equal even though I used HandBrake which is what Avia Tech Support suggests to use.
BTW- My TV has the latest firmware. The Samsung DLNA app used by the TV is called AllShare. It later was changed to AllShare Play and recently Samsung Link. Now Samsung Link/AllShare Play is available in the Play Store but shows to not compatible with my Nexus 10. I don’t know what’s included in the newer Samsung Smart TV’s or if it’s still called AllShare or not.
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Same issue here. Even though I transcode:
mp4 container
h264 codec
high profile (4.1)
I still can't direct play. I have no idea what i'm missing but according to "the google" these are the parameters that a file needs for CC compatibility.

sherdog16 said:
Same issue here. Even though I transcode:
mp4 container
h264 codec
high profile (4.1)
I still can't direct play. I have no idea what i'm missing but according to "the google" these are the parameters that a file needs for CC compatibility.
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Exactly what behavior do you see when you cast the a video from Avia?

sherdog16 said:
Same issue here. Even though I transcode:
mp4 container
h264 codec
high profile (4.1)
I still can't direct play. I have no idea what i'm missing but according to "the google" these are the parameters that a file needs for CC compatibility.
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You forgot to note the Audio codec...
AAC(Both HE and and LC), CELT/OPUS, Vorbis or MP3 are the only Audio codecs supported by CCast.
If it is stereo MP3 is fine, If it is surround then AAC is required.
I think you may have gotten the video side right but did not get the Audio correct and thats why it won't play on the CCast.
Samsung if I'm not mistaken uses Mediaplay for Video It should play AAC just fine.

Why did Google choose Avia anyway? Theres loads of better media players for android.

The S3 Kid said:
Why did Google choose Avia anyway? Theres loads of better media players for android.
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Not sure what the selection process was for who got to play with the yet-unreleased SDK, but the developer also had to have shown interest in supporting Chromecast, so likely it was both sides.
Probably Google saw enough interest to deem their participation and feedback beneficial to the SDK development process.

The S3 Kid said:
Why did Google choose Avia anyway? Theres loads of better media players for android.
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It was probably more aVia chose them and not the other way around...
I know they worked with Plex developers directly.
aVia may have been the only local file player other than Real Player to show any interest.
Most of the best players are one Developer driven products and didn't show interest when Google asked for people interested.

One of the things mentioned by Avia Tech Support was that Avia came installed on some Google TVs. They had asked what app was on my Samsung Smart TV.

bhiga said:
Exactly what behavior do you see when you cast the a video from Avia?
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Most stuff just said unsupported format. However, I took a fresh rip and encoded a test and it worked so I think I may have gotten it. And to the other poster, I'm pretty sure it was aac audio I was selecting
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So i just wanted to update:
I'm finding that some videos that say "Unsupported Format blah blah blah" that I try to play from my phone will play fine when transferred to the laptop and shared through windows media center. The kicker is that some videos aren't showing up in Avia when dropped in the same spot as everything else. Note: The machine is a netbook with Windows 7 and only a 1.33Ghz dual core so it's not transcoding anything.
Even more strange; when i try to play the same movie through my plex server on said netbook with the paid plexpass android app, it then attempts to transcode and fails horribly with buffering every 2 seconds. I'm finding that playing local content with Chromecast has a TON of "ifs and buts". Basically, it's all very simple if you have a powerful desktop, but not so easy for those of us on a budget... which i think is most of the people who bought the CC, due to the price point.
So if I can just get Windows Media Center to show all my converted movies, which I can't, I'll be fine. IDK, I just felt like venting my frustrations with this whole venture. Back at it tonight i suppose.

sherdog16 said:
So i just wanted to update:
I'm finding that some videos that say "Unsupported Format blah blah blah" that I try to play from my phone will play fine when transferred to the laptop and shared through windows media center. The kicker is that some videos aren't showing up in Avia when dropped in the same spot as everything else. Note: The machine is a netbook with Windows 7 and only a 1.33Ghz dual core so it's not transcoding anything.
Even more strange; when i try to play the same movie through my plex server on said netbook with the paid plexpass android app, it then attempts to transcode and fails horribly with buffering every 2 seconds. I'm finding that playing local content with Chromecast has a TON of "ifs and buts". Basically, it's all very simple if you have a powerful desktop, but not so easy for those of us on a budget... which i think is most of the people who bought the CC, due to the price point.
So if I can just get Windows Media Center to show all my converted movies, which I can't, I'll be fine. IDK, I just felt like venting my frustrations with this whole venture. Back at it tonight i suppose.
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Not sure if WMC tries to conform things for XBOX/UPnP compliance or not... We'll assume it doesn't though.
Sounds like Plex is just being hampered by poor transcoding performance. Netbooks tend not to fare well with high-performance tasks, especially CODEC-related operations. A desktop with more RAM and a more video-friendly optimized CPU would definitely fare better.
You might be having network performance issues on top of that.
Chromecast has a ton of "gotchas" with playing local content - because it's not really designed for that. Its primary purpose is an Internet streamer. Beyond that, it's a bit like using your phone in lieu of a laptop. You can do it, but you're subject to restrictions.
I'm still in search of an "all in one" solution as well, but seems there is none.
Plex is awesome for my non-DVD/BD content because it can transcode for whatever client... but I'd have to convert my DVDs/BDs
TV + phone/tablet
WMC+MyMovies works well for my DVD/BD content - and it works for my video content too... but then I'm tied to my TV - can't watch on my phone/tablet, and control via my phone/tablet is klunky at best for non-DVD/BD stuff (I use TMT for DVD/BD playback - its Android remote app works fine).
TV
Avia plays my local content... and casts it too, but not if it requires transcoding
Phone/tablet
RealPlayer cloud needs me to throw non-compliant media onto their cloud before I can cast it
Phone/tablet
If/when the MyMovies Android app is released (they're working on it) I'll finally be able to cast my DVD (and hopefully BD) content which may render my WMC machine obsolete... but still not an all-in-one solution.

Also Transcoding is still a WIP as far as Plex goes...They are slowly getting there but it would seem it still transcodes even in some cases where it probably shouldn't have to or doesn't transcode in cases it should (notably MP4/H264 Level 4.0 or lower/AAC)
Transcoding will not operate properly on a Netbook. What is happening (and this is a guess) is Plex is trying to transcode for aVia and the system can't handle it. The Error says incompatible but that is because the transcode isn't working.
aVia can probably handle the file fine without Transcoding but Plex doesn't care what aVia will handle it transcodes based on the Source and without a profile for aVia it is probably just using a Generic Transcode format that your Machine is choking on.

Asphyx said:
Also Transcoding is still a WIP as far as Plex goes...They are slowly getting there but it would seem it still transcodes even in some cases where it probably shouldn't have to or doesn't transcode in cases it should (notably MP4/H264 Level 4.0 or lower/AAC)
Transcoding will not operate properly on a Netbook. What is happening (and this is a guess) is Plex is trying to transcode for aVia and the system can't handle it. The Error says incompatible but that is because the transcode isn't working.
aVia can probably handle the file fine without Transcoding but Plex doesn't care what aVia will handle it transcodes based on the Source and without a profile for aVia it is probably just using a Generic Transcode format that your Machine is choking on.
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Yeah this is what has me miffed. Plex is great. Looks great, reads everything in, so on and so forth. I never figured the netbook could handle any transcoding, i assumed direct play would be okay as I can encode the files on my work PC (which has plenty of balls) to be compliant. But it frustrates me now when I have a file that is obviously CC compatible (plays fine through DLNA via Avia) but it then attempts to transcode the file when it shouldn't have to. I wish there was a "force direct play" option with Plex (or maybe there is and i'm not aware). Orrrrr i wish all my files that I encode with the exact same settings in Handbrake would read in through WMC so I don't even need Plex, and I could just use Avia.
I feel like I'm RIGHT there with this but can't quiet figure it out. It has me obsessed with "beating the problem" so to speak.

I faced this wierd issue before...
For some mp4 files, when put locally on my android device, can stream fine to chromecast.
Same mp4 file copied to a network location and streamed via vget to avia did not play at all.
For other mp4 files (exact same coding done via handbrake)... they play well from both local storage or network storage accessed via vget.
I was never able to solve it.
Its very puzzling and a random hit/miss
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Orrrrr i wish all my files that I encode with the exact same settings in Handbrake would read in through WMC so I don't even need Plex, and I could just use Avia.
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WMC is supposed to be a DLNA-compliant source, but how it determines what it does and doesn't serve is a bit of a mystery... I suspect it's something to do with the Homegroup concept that I still avoid.

BubbleUPnP is finally supporting Chromecast

As previously announced (some 6 months ago), it finally happened. Seems very stable from the 30 minutes I had to play with it. Opens a lot of opportunities. Funny that it supports Plex better than Plex themselvesf, and free.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp&hl=en
Enjoy...

BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA free 1.8.0 with full chromecast 15250 support it's limited to 20/30 minutes of playback.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp&hl=en
If you want more you have to pay €3,49/$4.69 for BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA License
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp.unlocker&hl=en
What's New
1.8.0
Finally, full Chromecast support with optional transcoding for playing non natively supported media.
Play your music, videos and photos to your Chromecast, whether located on your Android device, your local network or the cloud!
Playing Chromecast natively supported media is unrestricted in the free version of BubbleUPnP.
Playing transcoded media requires installing BubbleUPnP Server 0.8 on your network, and is limited to 20 minutes per app launch in the free version of BubbleUPnP.
Free for up to 20 minutes of playing
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BubbleUPnP free version limitations:
- ads
- Internet streaming with BubbleUPnP Server is limited to 30 minutes per app launch
- Playlist and Library Shuffle are limited to 16 tracks
- downloads limited to batches of maximum 40 tracks
- the local renderer is remotely controllable by external Control Points for 30 mins per app launch
- the local Media Server is not browsable by filesystem (SD Card)
- playing media from external apps is limited to 3 plays per app launch
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Spent a bit more time with it and still impressed. I bought a premium version about a year ago, and was completely oblivious that there might be some limitations. Glad to see that app is 100% free and working for Chromecast supported formats.
In their defence, also bought Plex app, and still unable to cast anything. And as I said, it does Plex better than Plex app in my opinion.

Yes I'm very glad I could release Chromecast support.
It has been a long wait since my early tests in August/September.

jasenko said:
Funny that it supports Plex better than Plex themselvesf, and free.
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Please explain! Plex app works great for me...

mathorv said:
BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA free 1.8.0 with full chromecast 15250 support it's limited to 20/30 minutes of playback.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp&hl=en
If you want more you have to pay €3,49/$4.69 for BubbleUPnP UPnP/DLNA License
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp.unlocker&hl=en
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I just launched 1.8.0 and the history says
Playing media natively supported by Chromecast is unrestricted in the free version of BubbleUPnP
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so I believe the 20/30 minute limit applies only if you need BubbleUPnP Server to transcode content?

bhiga said:
so I believe the 20/30 minute limit applies only if you need BubbleUPnP Server to transcode content?
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Media natively supported = MP4, webm, (with supported codecs) and audio files. In this matter you are right it's free, but I have not tried it to be absolutely sure.

Now with BubbleUPnP support, can someone give me some advice? I use BubbleUPnP a lot and it is my favorite app for media.
I have an original firmware Chromecast that has never seen the Internet. I don't want to lose the flexibility of the software potential, but now with BubbleUPnP as well as Google releasing the APIs, I am wondering what the best plan would be.
What would you guys do with your original firmware Chromecast?

xdadevnube said:
Now with BubbleUPnP support, can someone give me some advice? I use BubbleUPnP a lot and it is my favorite app for media.
I have an original firmware Chromecast that has never seen the Internet. I don't want to lose the flexibility of the software potential, but now with BubbleUPnP as well as Google releasing the APIs, I am wondering what the best plan would be.
What would you guys do with your original firmware Chromecast?
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I would root it. If you don't care about root, sell/trade it to someone who does.
The only thing you lose is some time between a Google OTA release and the corresponding Team Eureka release.
Normal incremental releases don't see much/any functionality breakage.
This one was an exception because of the new SDK and APIs needing to be in-sync across both clients and Chromecasts.

bhiga said:
I would root it. If you don't care about root, sell/trade it to someone who does.
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THIS!
If you don't really want root then it's more valuable to someone else than it would be if you allowed it lose it's rootable condition.
Congrats to the BubbleUPnP folks for the added CCast support.
I have not tried it fully yet but to those who are currently using aVia, a switch to Bubble might be a good move.
Especially if you have the Bubble Server running on a PC since you will get the transcoding goodness not available with aVia...
Now if MX Player would add CCast support my local streaming to CCast world would be complete.

bhiga said:
I just launched 1.8.0 and the history says
so I believe the 20/30 minute limit applies only if you need BubbleUPnP Server to transcode content?
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I read it that way also.

so now is there a way to make srt subs to work?

rkirmeier said:
Please explain! Plex app works great for me...
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Plex app was very slow for me when browsing channels. No issues with BubbleUPnP. Plus I had to pay for a month of premium service just to see how it works with the chromecast. Glad to also see some serious competition.

Thumbs up!
Very stable so far for sending photos to Chromecast, much better than Avia because it leaves the last pic up until it's (more or less) ready to load the next one.

caifaz said:
so now is there a way to make srt subs to work?
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Not currently, but subs will be supported in the next version of the app.
external srt (provided the media server expose them to BubbleUPnP, for video accessed via UPnP) and embedded subs (mostly found in MKV) will be supported.
And it will be done properly, without burning the subs in the video which is horrible (reencode).

bubbleguuum said:
Not currently, but subs will be supported in the next version of the app.
external srt (provided the media server expose them to BubbleUPnP, for video accessed via UPnP) and embedded subs (mostly found in MKV) will be supported.
And it will be done properly, without burning the subs in the video which is horrbile (reencode).
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Thank you for your reply, I'm glad that someone cares!

bubbleguuum said:
Not currently, but subs will be supported in the next version of the app.
external srt (provided the media server expose them to BubbleUPnP, for video accessed via UPnP) and embedded subs (mostly found in MKV) will be supported.
And it will be done properly, without burning the subs in the video which is horrbile (reencode).
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Speaking of embedded things in MKV, just successfully cast Simpsons from the NAS zonly be joined by di director commentaries- I have no option or means to disable this stream as I would on n pc
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Hey bubbleguuum,
I tested a file (streamed from Interntet) in 4 different apps today (vGet, LocalCast, BubbleUPnP and Avia). All but Avia were heavily stuttering. The receiver apps looked very similar in the other three so I am guessing, it is a standard implementation of the protocol. Avia on the other hand did some caching magic behind the scenes and the end result was far more pleasing to watch without constant interruptions. I hope next version of BubbleUPnP will also have some magic applied to it.

jasenko said:
Hey bubbleguuum,
I tested a file (streamed from Interntet) in 4 different apps today (vGet, LocalCast, BubbleUPnP and Avia). All but Avia were heavily stuttering. The receiver apps looked very similar in the other three so I am guessing, it is a standard implementation of the protocol. Avia on the other hand did some caching magic behind the scenes and the end result was far more pleasing to watch without constant interruptions. I hope next version of BubbleUPnP will also have some magic applied to it.
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There will be magic, but not in this area I'm afraid. It's true that if all 3 apps shows the same UI on the CC, they are using the default media player app. When using Avia, does the video continue to play to the end if you kill Avia (I mean really kill it, not leave it in the background) ? That's for testing the possibility it might proxy the stream.

I just tried BubbleUPnP on the Chromecast. When using the transcoding option, which puts a huge CPU load on the computer, I am unable to seek the transcoded files. When I play Chromecast-supported files, then no transcoding occurs and I can seek just fine.
I wonder if there is a way to seek transcoded files, so one doesn't have to start a video over from the beginning.

does playing local files use bandwidth data? i have limited internet data mifi device

will i be able to play local files without biting into data i have? from my macbook / android phone to google chromecast
please advise?
also is there a way to play xbmc to chromecast
thank you

wakkaday said:
will i be able to play local files without biting into data i have? from my macbook / android phone to google chromecast
please advise?
also is there a way to play xbmc to chromecast
thank you
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Yes only the Player will use Internet, The actual local streaming does not need Internet access.
CCast uses Internet to load the player and then the file stream over local network no net required once the player is loaded.
As for playing XBMC to CCast best solution I have found is Yatse Remote but it requires in app one time payment to unlock local cast, Once there Install the cast Addon and the content on your XBMC HTPC can be streamed to your CCast.

how much internet do you think the player will need ? for a movie for example
ok thats good to know, could i play local files and continue browsing on my tablet / macbook for example....
would you reccomend getting one? or is roku streaming stick better
i believe miracast doesnt uses another technology which doesnt use data, but another way of using the internet.

wakkaday said:
how much internet do you think the player will need ? for a movie for example
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i believe miracast doesnt uses another technology which doesnt use data, but another way of using the internet.
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The player is just a download of a HTML5 app (except for Netflix), it should be tiny, and doesn't matter what you're playing.
Miracast is screen mirroring, so it requires your device to play the movie, and what you see on your device is what goes to the TV.
The advantage is that often times the device can play more via software like MX Player. The disadvantage is that you cannot do other things with your device while playing the movie as exactly what you see on your device is what appears on the TV. Not so good if you get an embarrassing text message or something, and it'll use a lot of battery power.
The advantage to Chromecast is that Chromecast itself does the playback.. Once you make the request to play a video, you can do whatever you want on your device - even turn it off. Your device (or another device on your network) acts as the remote control.
Personally I really like it - I can browse YouTube and add videos to the TV Queue while stuff is playing full-screen on the TV.
I can play a movie in Netflix for my family to watch while I browser other movies they might like.
If I need to leave, my wife can run the same app and connect to Chromecast so she can pause/play/change things.

wakkaday said:
how much internet do you think the player will need ? .
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Probably no more than a few K to one MB.

thats good to know...
i will be mainly using my mac for downloaded content (so i need to install mac server) and then i need to install plex app for the chromecast right?
and for my android phone local files that will be via allcast?
whats the situation of playing local files via iphone?
and anything can be streamed across using the chrome browser...
i guess i will have to buy and experiement around and work it out, but thank you for your information

wakkaday said:
thats good to know...
i will be mainly using my mac for downloaded content (so i need to install mac server) and then i need to install plex app for the chromecast right?
and for my android phone local files that will be via allcast?
whats the situation of playing local files via iphone?
and anything can be streamed across using the chrome browser...
i guess i will have to buy and experiement around and work it out, but thank you for your information
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No you do not install anything on the CCast it does that automatically to load whatever player App is required to work with your Mobile App...
Plex App will tell it to load the Plex player, aVia will tell it to load the aVia Player, Netflix tells it to load the Netflix player.
Once the player is loaded into the CCast (ie in Plex it says Plexc ready to cast) no further internet should be required to stream local content.
For local on device media I suggest BubbleUPnP or aVia but that local content needs to be compatible with CCast.

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ah ok thats explains it. i will be getting it delivered tomorrow....
when you say local content needs to be compatible, do you think i will be ok with the following...
i will be mainly trying to play avi and mkvs movies...
i know you can rename mkv to m2ts which some players will play
is real player cloud not a good app? thats free???

wakkaday said:
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ah ok thats explains it. i will be getting it delivered tomorrow....
when you say local content needs to be compatible, do you think i will be ok with the following...
i will be mainly trying to play avi and mkvs movies...
i know you can rename mkv to m2ts which some players will play
is real player cloud not a good app? thats free???
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CCast compatible means:
Container type MP4
Video Codec H.264
Audio Codec AAC or MP3
Video Bitrate not higher than 8Mbps
4-6 is a good compromise for compatibility with many devices and network conditions

RealPlayer Cloud is okay - but if your media is not Chromecast-compatible you have to upload it to their cloud and their servers will transcode it for you via their SurePlay feature.
You get 2GB of cloud for free and can get some additional storage by completing some tasks (referrals, share).

wakkaday said:
how much internet do you think the player will need ? for a movie for example
ok thats good to know, could i play local files and continue browsing on my tablet / macbook for example....
would you reccomend getting one? or is roku streaming stick better
i believe miracast doesnt uses another technology which doesnt use data, but another way of using the internet.
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Please download EZCast App from Google Play, it can cast local video,music,pdf,word,excel,PPT to your chromecast and show on TV.

i tried this with my chromecast
and it was quite fiddly getting files to play (i could change some files from mkv to mp4 and they played but some files the sound didnt play. however using plex server on mac and i beemed it across it played fine... however i noticed the data took a hit
i was just messing about wiht a few files video and it took around 300mb? it seems its playing over wifi...rather then locally...
am i doing something wrong

Casting uses all my home network bandwidth
I can use my Lenovo A7000-a phone to cast to a windows display. It works well. No 3rd party software is used on either the phone or my desktop. However, it consumes my entire (abysmally low - Hey! its the Philippines) 5MBps network bandwidth. No other user on the local home router can access the internet. I would have thought the casting would just be a connection across the router, is this NOT the case? How can I improve this so no other users are affected?

Xbmc to Chromecast - Just got easier

Updated - This is a how to on Casting Xbmc from Computer to TV for Free using the Chrome Browser. No more player core factory file needed and seems to play all formats including Live Streams.
http://youtu.be/4tm7-micx1s Instructional Video
Step 1. Go into Chrome Browser and add the Google Cast Extension at
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-cast/boadgeojelhgndaghljhdicfkmllpafd?hl=en
Step 2. Download and install XBMC Windows version 13.1 Gotham at
http://xbmc.org/download/
Step 3. Demonstration
Start Chromecast
Open Chrome Browser.....Hit Google Cast Button....Cast this Tab to Beta-Click down arrow on far right.....Cast Entire Screen-Experimental.....Click your Chromecast......Click Yes to Screen Sharing Request.
Start XBMC
Start your show and Chromecast automatically finds the Chrome Browser and plays the video on your Big TV.
Good Luck!

This should play anything that plays on-computer. However it should be noted that it adds to CPU load on the computer as content is being recompressed on-the-fly and sent to Chromecast. Also, the quality of the image sent to Chromecast will be affected by your desktop resolution. Tab/Desktop casting gets iffy above 720p.

its a quick and dirty workaround but unfortunately the Cast a Screen option does not work for systems than have more than one screen.
It will cast all the screens at once and does not let you select one or the other.
XBMC really needs to add CCast support to their system.

Mac
Could someone with a Mac try this and let me know if it works. Thanks

Did anyone try this solution from computer to TV. Did it work okay or was there lag? Just trying to get some feedback. Thanks

vincent1964 said:
Did anyone try this solution from computer to TV. Did it work okay or was there lag? Just trying to get some feedback. Thanks
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No it definitely works but you are not getting full frame rate and your probably also really stressing the proc of the computer you're using...

This is just casting the desktop, a standard Chromecast capability that's nothing to do with XBMC. Performance will likely be poor for most people, and it puts a heavy load on your desktop CPU.

Ok, sorry this wasn't useful to everyone.
UOTE=DJames1;53633579]This is just casting the desktop, a standard Chromecast capability that's nothing to do with XBMC. Performance will likely be poor for most people, and it puts a heavy load on your desktop CPU.
Move along, nothing to see here...[/QUOTE]

No need to get personal. It is a valid point. This method requires better than average network conditions and computer performance.
To summarize, this method...
+ Is easier to set up than messing with playercorefactory
+ Supports anything XBMC can play on the computer
- Requires good network condition, or there may skipping or reduced frame rate
- Requires good computer performance, or there may skipping or reduced frame rate
- Computer cannot be used for other tasks during operation
- Limited to 720p, also may be scaled if desktop/tab resolution is not 720p

Lets also be clear about something here....
All this talk about methodology to stream XBMC is really just limited to the Video Add Ons that stream web based channel content.
You can already stream all the local Library content to CCast using Yatse or any DLNA content player with CCast support like aVia.Both are in app purchases to get the feature but work like a charm.
What you don't get is transcoding which XBMC does not do no matter what you do....
This method simply uses Chrome to transcode (and badly I might add) whatever appears on the XBMC screen.
It works but it is similar to using a screwdriver to hammer in a Nail!
A Hammer would be better....
People mention Plex because it too has Video Channels you can add to it....Problem is not as many channels as are available for XBMC but then again since XBMC has moved to a new codebase (Gotham) a whole slew of channels have broken anyway!
If we really want to come up with a useful solution here what would be the best thing going forward would be to code a Converter that can take the Channel information from an XBMC Channel and convert it for use in Plex...
Plex does do transcoding and supports CCast which XBMC doesn't do and from my conversations with the Devs over there NEVER WILL!
They are simply not interested in supporting CCast and Transcode is not what they consider a core goal!
Thats one of the reasons Plex exists at all!
XBMC Dev's refusal to implement Transcode....It was needed for their fork of XBMC (which became PHT Plex Home Theater) and so they created PMS (Plex Media Server)
I love XBMC and have it installed on a few dedicated HTPCs here....
But without direct CCast support it's only useful as a direct HDMI connect project!
It is a frontend for an HTPC and thats all they ever intend it to ever be!
So if you really want to use XBMC you should start looking into building a cheap HTPC to run it....
If you don't skimp too much on the Power and make a machine capable of transcoding without breaking a sweat, you can also install PMS and get the best of both worlds on one machine!
Either that or hound the hell out of the developer of Yatse and get him to make the Add On Support work...it works on the Android unit directly but not to the CCast.

Hi,
I have tried on the fly transcoding through Plex, Bubbleupnp and VLC. The truth is it works ok but so much of the quality is lost you are better of with a wire.

vincent1964 said:
Hi,
I have tried on the fly transcoding through Plex, Bubbleupnp and VLC. The truth is it works ok but so much of the quality is lost you are better of with a wire.
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Still much better quality than this method and it does give you remote control which is not possible using Tab Casting.

I totally disagree. You can get 720 with this method versus before flat screen quality with on the fly transcoding. Is your computer outdated?
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Still much better quality than this method and it does give you remote control which is not possible using Tab Casting.
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vincent1964 said:
I totally disagree. You can get 720 with this method versus before flat screen quality with on the fly transcoding. Is your computer outdated?
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No my computer is just fine and I get 1080P with full surround sound from Plex....So I don't know why your thinking 720p Stereo is better than that....

Are you talking about playing from Xbmc? You made this mistake the last time we talked also. Are you sure you even know what on the fly transcoding is?
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No my computer is just fine and I get 1080P with full surround sound from Plex....So I don't know why your thinking 720p Stereo is better than that....
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Xbmc mobile to chromecast is what i am looking for.
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vincent1964 said:
Are you talking about playing from Xbmc? You made this mistake the last time we talked also. Are you sure you even know what on the fly transcoding is?
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No I'm talking about Channels from Plex!
XBMC channels is the only thing this is good for and you would probably get better results on screen just going to the sites themselves.
This method you are using at BEST gets 20 FPS and minimal Stereo sound where some of the sites the XBMC channels use sometimes have better versions with Surround Sound,,,,So Yes your method works....But it's a poor way to transcode an XBMC output.
XBMC does NO TRANSCODING PERIOD! Did you read my post regarding all of this?

Okay, Of course then that's how you are getting 1080p. You are just viewing plex channels and are not doing any transcoding. That's what I thought all along. I was talking about using Xbmc and VLC to do on the fly transcoding.

Hi Vicent
I was hoping you may be able to help on one of your previous methods of Xbmc from computer to chromecast using bluestack
Im trying to use Bubbleupnp but I get the message Failed to connect to Google Play Services for casting- network error
I've downloaded the chromecast app on bluestack but i get the message "no chromecast found on bluestack" it seems it not searching my network which has two chromecast on
any help would be appreciated
Thank you

vincent1964 said:
Okay, Of course then that's how you are getting 1080p. You are just viewing plex channels and are not doing any transcoding. That's what I thought all along. I was talking about using Xbmc and VLC to do on the fly transcoding.
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Vincent you really need to read what I'm saying.....
All of these channels (XBMC and PLEX) are nothing more than Metadata menu creators that take information from a publicly available internet website (either via RSS, XML or Direct DB read), And create a list of links to go to and view the content.
You can get everything you think you are getting now without the need to run XBMC (or Plex for that matter) by simply going to the website for that content DIRECTLY..and then you have the option of casting a tab if you have to or in some cases those sites will have Chromecast support already in their Player (see ESPN who uses JW Player that now has CCast support natively).
You will get just as good a quality as you think you are getting from XBMC (or Plex) with screen casting and in cases where CCast is supported, even BETTER quality as no transcoding is needed at all!
I would LOVE IT if XBMC supported CCast....I just wish everyone who wants it to work with CCast would get on XBMC Dev's case and get them to implement it.
I sympathize with the Cord Cutters need to get channels in an easy to use interface on a CCast...
But we would all be better off if we would all focus more on getting the channels you want working on a product that DOES support the CCast...
Or getting XBMC to get with the program and support the desires of it's user base!