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[POLL] Who's actually happy with the N4

Are you?
EDIT: If you're unhappy, speak up here.

Minus the little EMI interference on the earpiece, absolutely. Super fast, great battery life, beautiful design.

Exactly what he said - I only get the interference in calls and not every call. Other than that, awesome phone.

I am really happy with it as well. I came from a epic 4g to this so it is an amazing difference. Better battery life and super fast.
I think it is all relative. I am sure people jumping from much better phones like GS3 will not be as impressed with this device as I have.

ace7196 said:
Minus the little EMI interference on the earpiece, absolutely. Super fast, great battery life, beautiful design.
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Same here.

OP, you may want to keep this poll open a bit longer considering some of the limbo/backordered people are only now getting their phones shipped to them.

With a piss poor camera and a lackluster display with it's specs I am happy for the price I paid but if this was $500-600 off contract I would stay away myself... I have a Note 2 and an S3 and my Note 2 crushes this phone IMO and the S3 is close but then again it does not offer you that pure "GOOGLE" experience either and the S3 has soo many tweaks out and better optics and display (IMO) it's just what you want out of your device but I am thrilled to own it! It will definitely be my flashaholic phone!
EDIT: Okay guys I have had it for awhile now and I DO think the screen is VERY nice so I take away my comment from above but I am kinda disappointed in the camera's but who cares really! I am charging it wirelessly as I type... Time to start flashin!
;( I wish they would let me change my vote.... lol This just goes to show that you can NEVER judge a phone or anything for that matter, before it has been FULLY tested and I admit I spoke too soon! I LOVE the N4 on my T-mobile $30 Monthly 4G plan! You just cannot compare this phone to any other!

Oops, accidentally gave the guy above me a thanks. But I'm completely happy with this device. There is absolutely nothing I would change about it.

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shojus said:
With a piss poor camera and a lackluster display with it's specs I am happy for the price I paid but if this was $500-600 off contract I would stay away myself... I have a Note 2 and an S3 and my Note 2 crushes this phone IMO and the S3 is close but then again it does not offer you that pure "GOOGLE" experience either and the S3 has soo many tweaks out and better optics and display (IMO) it's just what you want out of your device but I am thrilled to own it! It will definitely be my flashaholic phone!
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Opinion is just that and since he didn't ask what phone you thought was better, maybe you should have kept it to yourself? Its troll bait and as you state twice. Just your opinion.
Of course, If I spent as much as you on those two other phones (which, IMO are not even close to this phone) I would try to justify it just as badly as you have, ..

Maybe u should add something to the poll like:
"I can't evaluate this because Google is too incompetent to ship the Nexus 4"
Regards

kcls said:
Oops, accidentally gave the guy above me a thanks. But I'm completely happy with this device. There is absolutely nothing I would change about it.
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Sorry, I would give it back if I could... I did give you a thanks though....
tweaked said:
Opinion is just that and since he didn't ask what phone you thought was better, maybe you should have kept it to yourself? Its troll bait and as you state twice. Just your opinion.
Of course, If I spent as much as you on those two other phones (which, IMO are not even close to this phone) I would try to justify it just as badly as you have, ..
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Well he did say to add comments if you are "MOSTLY" satisfied so I posted MY comments and if you don't like that then I don't know what to say but I did say I do Love the phone but I have others to compare it to and I did just that! :laugh: You don't know what I spent and I justify my purchases based on my use and everyones use is different so..... Sounds to me like you don't like me cause I have an opinion...? Try not to be such a "hater"... And I believe you stated your opinion correct?? LOL No hard feelings, I love the device but it's not the only device out there... Enjoy everyone!!

pretty happy with my n4 however my bottom left corner squeaks when squeezing it lol.... anyone else with this problem?

I read so many posts of people being upset about this or that so I was skeptical, but now that I have had it in my hands for 2 days........I love it its the best phone I ever had. I am on T-Mobile and came from a One S and a S3 and don't miss either device. The hardware feels premium, much better than the S3 and right up there with the One S which despite its shortcomings had great build quality which I missed when I moved to an S3. I will be sticking with my Nexus 4 for a while.
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shojus said:
Sorry, I would give it back if I could... I did give you a thanks though....
Well he did say to add comments if you are "MOSTLY" satisfied so I posted MY comments and if you don't like that then I don't know what to say but I did say I do Love the phone but I have others to compare it to and I did just that! :laugh: You don't know what I spent and I justify my purchases based on my use and everyones use is different so..... Sounds to me like you don't like me cause I have an opinion...? Try not to be such a "hater"...
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Yeah, You see the " " at the end of the statement. Its so you know I was being sarcastic. But anyways
Not that it matterts, but, I don't dislike you, I like you just as much as everyone else I have never met. :laugh:

tweaked said:
Yeah, You see the " " at the end of the statement. Its so you know I was being sarcastic. But anyways
Not that it matterts, but, I don't dislike you, I like you just as much as everyone else I have never met. :laugh:
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LOL Wel I think of you as my XDA buddy so let's just be cool and I should have caught that sarcasm but I put a lil in myself... Enjoy your new device man!! :good:

Better than my GNex for sure , only bummer is that Android still produces low volume through the headphone jack

I came from an S3 and I have to say, I'm enjoying the Nexus 4 a lot more. As soon as I'm able to get my backups installed (Ubuntu and Android don't seem to be playing well unfortunately) I'll be able to enjoy it a lot more.

I'm coming from an Infuse 4G, so it's a big step and I'm definitely happy. The only real issue I have so far is that the phone slides if it's on a smooth surface that isn't completely flat. Like my laptop in its dock is a hair higher in the back than the front, and the phone doesn't stay put, it slides toward me. Same on tables, mouse pads, etc. Needs a little bit more friction.

siscim23 said:
I'm coming from an Infuse 4G, so it's a big step and I'm definitely happy. The only real issue I have so far is that the phone slides if it's on a smooth surface that isn't completely flat. Like my laptop in its dock is a hair higher in the back than the front, and the phone doesn't stay put, it slides toward me. Same on tables, mouse pads, etc. Needs a little bit more friction.
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Hoping some of the front/back skins I get will help. Also a minimal case.

Dump my Note 3?

Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it

anirudh412 said:
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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anirudh412 said:
I think you need to ask yourself what dont you like about the Note 3. Also, why not just go and try the phone at any AT&T store?
As for rooting, yes, an AT&T phone can be rooted (I have the AT&T model myself) and yes, the notification keeps breathing until you either a. Unlock the phone, b. read the notification or c. dismiss it
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Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
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Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks for the input. The size of the Note 3 bugs me a little bit and the horrible wifi reception are my two main reasons. I went and played with the Moto X today and I was digging it.
Oh yeah? How hard are we talking? I'm a pretty seasoned android user. Can you link me to the process?
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Its in the original android development. There are two posts. One is for 4.2.2 and the most recent 4.4.
There is a 3rd one but your phone will probably not be on 4.1.
It is not hard.....I don't know squat and was able to nail it. Just follow the instructions to a T and you'll he fine.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I'm sitting on my $150 promo code while I consider dumping my Note 3 for a Moto X. Good idea?
I also have a couple questions. Do the active notifications keep breathing until you attend to them or does it stop breathing after a while? I heavily rely on the notification light on my Note 3 so I hope it keeps breathing.
My other question....I am on at&t. Can I root the phone?
Thanks!
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My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.

Cubfan99 said:
It is very difficult to root. Pretty complicated and not for any but the most experienced, IMO.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
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Actually all it needs you to do, is go through all pages in the thread. Every single problem has been addressed. And if that's still too complicated, one can always stay on 4.2.2 (Camera OTA) and use the One Click RockMyMoto

I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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I moved to the Moto X from the Note 3, no regrets at all. I hated Touchwiz. I do miss the SD slot a bit, but I'll live. The active notifications make up for it though, I freaking love them.

tnt118 said:
My wife has a note and I have an X. My first inclination is to say they are vastly different phones. I assume you are looking at the overall experience and not so much the cost of the phone.
If the losing the larger screen isn't a deal-breaker for you, then it's not a bad move as long as you are OK with what you are giving up. For multimedia, streaming and all the S-pen "jazz" it's a great device, it really is. I tend to think of the X a little more like a workhorse. Day in and day out it just keeps knocking it out of the park for normal, everyday tasks. Lesser specs, yes, but with all the optimizations it is smooth as butter across the board. In all the years I've had smartphones, I've *never* had one I trust to get me through the day until now (I work until midnight some times and don't always have convenient access to a charger).
I think you'll love the notifications on the X. They keep going as long as you have unaddressed notifications. From that screen you can dismiss them, jump straight into the app the notification is from or just unlock the phone. It's fantastic for dealing with a multitude of work emails, or other things like that.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback! It's funny because the active notifications are the #1 thing that I'm most excited about.
For some reason I'm a notification junkie. I really rely on them to the point where I won't even consider a phone without at least an led notification light. As a matter of fact, I passed on the HTC One because you simply can barely see that tiny pinhole light that it has.
calmlydefyinglogic said:
I recently sold my Note 3 to pick up a Moto X. I ended up getting a white TMO 16GB Moto X on Cyber Monday that I've had since last Wed. The primary reason that I wanted to get rid of the Note 3 was the overall size. I'm a pretty big dude (6'5 280) so I've got pretty large hands and it still was too much phone to deal with on a daily basis. My hand would literally start hurting/cramping and having a burning sensation all through my knuckles and that gradually worked it's way down my arm. So I got fed up and decided to get rid of it on Craigslist. I will say that the screen quality, expandable storage and battery life on the N3 are the primary things that I missed initially. What I don't miss is the fire burning in my hand and forearm that I felt everyday using it.
So now that I've had my Moto X for a few days now I can say without any doubt that I made the right decision to switch. The ice storm here in Dallas has afforded me the opportunity to have three solid days of quality time with this awesome phone.
Here are some specific points:
The in hand feel is fantastic and I haven't experienced any discomfort at all. The build quality and fit and finish are top notch as well. The N3 just feels cheap and fragile compared to it. It also has a great weight to it that makes it feel very solid. I'm not scared to drop this phone and have it shatter into a million pieces. Even still I ended up ordering a case for it to preserve its pristine condition.
I will definitely say that the difference in screen resolution isn't nearly as noticeable as I thought that it was going to be. The screen on the Moto X is very sharp an vibrant while being extremely responsive. Very deep blacks and somewhat warm whites. The colors absolutely pop with vivid contrast. I can't complain at all about the screen.
The battery life on the N3 was simply insane. The best screen on time that I ever got was right at 8hrs. It was a beast when it came to battery life. That being said I can pull down 5:30-6hrs screen on time with my Moto X. So I can definitely notice a difference but it's not a deal breaker for me. I can live with the battery life that I'm getting with the Moto X. Plus it charges crazy fast.
Expandable memory is probably the biggest issue that I've had. I opted for the 16GB version with the intent of utilizing the 200GBs of cloud storage that I have at my disposal. I've also stopped keeping music stored on my device and use streaming services like Play Music All Access, Spotify and Google Drive via the Beat app. It's been mostly painless but there was some adjusting initially. I had a 32GB N3 with a 64GB SD which is a ton of local storage. Believe it or not I just had to slightly adjust what apps and games to install instead of just installing everything. It has actually had the added bonus of streamlining and focusing my gaming attention. Now I'm having to play a game and beat it to get to the next one. I tend to try and look at the positive side of things.
Now lets get to the best aspect of the Moto X and that's the Motorola software tweaks onboard. I don't know how I ever lived without Active Notifications. It's such an elegant and logical way to handle notifications that it should just be baked into Android. I love that I can just glance over to see quickly what it is without touching my device. Then if I want to get more info I can just press the icon and it displays more detail. Then if I want to address it just swipe up to jump directly respond to it. Simply fantastic! I also like that if I just want to see the time or use my device it knows that I've picked it up and lights up the Active Notifications screen.
I've only recently started using Moto Assist so I can't comment in depth but I can say that its been very useful thus far.
Always listening is also insanely awesome and more useful than I'd imagined. I've never really used voice controls on a phone before simply because they've never been very intuitive or useful. What the Moto X has to offer is completely different beast all together. I've started using it more lately and its really amazing software to have at your disposal. I love that if I want to do a Google search or play some music or respond to a text I can hands free with there simple words... Ok Google Now.
I know... I know, TL; DR.
Bottom Line:
The Moto X is an amazing device out the box and only continually gets better and more useful the more you use it. I don't miss my Note 3 at all. Not even a little bit and now look back on it and think how I ever went without these features. I highly recommend this device and love that I've already got Kit Kat running on it. It makes me excited to see what's next as far as updates and tweaks are concerned.
I hope this somewhat helps someone who is on the fence.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info! It was very helpful. Yeah I think I'm really ready for a smaller phone that I can use one handed and feels comfortable in the hand.
Like you said, I'm sure I'll miss the battery life of the Note 3, but I will be ok if I can get 4-5 hours of screen on time.
I'm very curious to see if I will miss any of the Touchwiz features or stock apps. I've owned mostly Samsung phones in the past so it will be interesting to see how well or if I will want to adjust.
I am honestly keeping my expectations very realistic and subdued. I am thinking of this as a 30 day test and rental at worst. I checked and I guess California gets a 30 day return policy rather than the normal 14 day policy which is odd, but I will take it lol.
I see 3 possible conclusions here:
1. I love the phone enough to make it a daily driver and dump my Note 3 and probably make a little money in the process since I got the Moto X for $350.
2. I like the phone enough to keep it but I still prefer my Note 3 as my daily driver and keep the Moto X as a backup phone.
3. I like the phone or just think it's ok but can't find a reason to even keep it as a backup and I return it for a full refund.
As you can see it's no risk for me and a win-win situation.
Thanks again for the input!
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3 MAJOR things stopping me from buying the Note 4

I am undecided on this device or the Nexus 6. However, I was leaning more towards the T-Mobile Note 4 for use on AT&T. I have been reading through these forums, along with the AT&T Note 4 forums. The three major issues I have been reading on are:
1. Screen uniformity issues (apparently common among AMOLED panels) Many have complained about a pink tint or residue on certain portions of the screen when viewing whites. Others have also complained that certain sections of the screen are cooler and have more of a blue tint. I have read very few actually state they got perfect screens. These AMOLED issues seem to be more prevalent in the Black Galaxy Note 4s (the color I wanted, too). I have also noted that some are complaining about graininess in their displays. Why does one of the "best" displays on the market suffer from these issues?
2. Headphone output? Its been no secret that almost every Samsung Galaxy flagship had very low volume, but apparently the Note 4 takes it to a new level. The volume with headphones plugged in, when using the stock music app is so low, it apparently is half the volume of the iPhone 5S. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. I understand about volume mods and roms, but not everyone has time to mess around with that. I also refuse to carry around an iPhone and Note 4 just to get a good listening experience.
3. LAG? Apparently Samsung's TW is still lagging and stuttering just like its predecessors before it. Of course with the Note 4, "its not bad, and much improved", yet still there. When launching apps there are noticeable delays. Using the hangouts app produces quite a bit of stutter, and using the multitasking view.
I believe if anyone is going to drop $750+ dollars on a phone, they should not have to spend time "fixing" the above issues. I really hope that I am WRONG about these issues, because honestly, there really isn't much more to choose from when it comes to phones this year. The Nexus 6 display is lacking, and so is battery life. What's left? iPhone 6 Plus? Nah.

LOL go buy the iphone...
I don't have problem with headphones and it's louder than ever.
Don't have screen problems either..
Also no lag at all.

twe90kid said:
LOL go buy the iphone...
I don't have problem with headphones and it's louder than ever.
Don't have screen problems either..
Also no lag at all.
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That's what I wanted to hear. No iPhone for me, nope not no way, not no how. I will not overpay for a limited device like that.

BlockEight88 said:
I am undecided on this device or the Nexus 6. However, I was leaning more towards the T-Mobile Note 4 for use on AT&T. I have been reading through these forums, along with the AT&T Note 4 forums. The three major issues I have been reading on are:
1. Screen uniformity issues (apparently common among AMOLED panels) Many have complained about a pink tint or residue on certain portions of the screen when viewing whites. Others have also complained that certain sections of the screen are cooler and have more of a blue tint. I have read very few actually state they got perfect screens. These AMOLED issues seem to be more prevalent in the Black Galaxy Note 4s (the color I wanted, too). I have also noted that some are complaining about graininess in their displays. Why does one of the "best" displays on the market suffer from these issues?
2. Headphone output? Its been no secret that almost every Samsung Galaxy flagship had very low volume, but apparently the Note 4 takes it to a new level. The volume with headphones plugged in, when using the stock music app is so low, it apparently is half the volume of the iPhone 5S. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. I understand about volume mods and roms, but not everyone has time to mess around with that. I also refuse to carry around an iPhone and Note 4 just to get a good listening experience.
3. LAG? Apparently Samsung's TW is still lagging and stuttering just like its predecessors before it. Of course with the Note 4, "its not bad, and much improved", yet still there. When launching apps there are noticeable delays. Using the hangouts app produces quite a bit of stutter, and using the multitasking view.
I believe if anyone is going to drop $750+ dollars on a phone, they should not have to spend time "fixing" the above issues. I really hope that I am WRONG about these issues, because honestly, there really isn't much more to choose from when it comes to phones this year. The Nexus 6 display is lacking, and so is battery life. What's left? iPhone 6 Plus? Nah.
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Yep got mine on preorder never had an issue with screen, if stock is bad no reason to mod download powerapp which is one of the best music players, go to settings and put outpt to the highest and promise to impress, and literally just downloading nova will get rid of most if an lag. Youll be fine and appreciate the phone more.

lwsoccjs said:
Yep got mine on preorder never had an issue with screen, if stock is bad no reason to mod download powerapp which is one of the best music players, go to settings and put outpt to the highest and promise to impress, and literally just downloading nova will get rid of most if an lag. Youll be fine and appreciate the phone more.
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After reading the thread on the display issues, I was quite worried. It seemed rare to get a perfect display. Of course I am sure majority of people do not have perfect displays and just don't notice it. This is why I prefer IPS panels instead of AMOLED.

unless you suffer from OCD, ignore all that non sense and buy the damn phone; its the phone of the year, by a LARGE margin, period

No problems with the phone from me. Screen is perfect, volume is plenty loud (way louder than any iPhone), lag is a non issue.
This phone does everything and does them ask well. I do have a custom ROM on it, which make a difference. If you want to buy a phone and leave it stock you should look at a nexus 6 a Motorola X or an iPhone. This phone is way better rooted with a custom ROM.
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ShrekOpher said:
No problems with the phone from me. Screen is perfect, volume is plenty loud (way louder than any iPhone), lag is a non issue.
This phone does everything and does them ask well. I do have a custom ROM on it, which make a difference. If you want to buy a phone and leave it stock you should look at a nexus 6 a Motorola X or an iPhone. This phone is way better rooted with a custom ROM.
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Well rooting and flashing roms can be an amazing thing. It's just that I did that before with my S3 and S4 and I was always changing roms, never keeping anything lol. It also got annoying have to re-setup everything all the time when updates came. I think you could get into trouble by dirty flashing.
How is your signal reception? Do you use T-Mobile? How is the GPS accuracy?

From what I've seen personally and heard from reading it almost seems that the black n4's are more likely to have display issues........Racist !

Lol damn those black phones lol

I don't have screen troubles
I don't have lag
Headphones could be a bit louder
But nothing like you described

Always the black man, I am offended samsung ....#sue
...and honestly, if you are not willing to try the phone hands on you have no right to complain about it. touchwiz will always lag next STOCK android. it is no DIFFERENT next to an lg, xperia, and htc is SLIGHTLY (thats a stretch) better in the lag department because it is the CLOSEST to stock android.
With all your complaint, either go buy an iphone or go buy a nexus device because 3rd party manufacturers are not for you lol. feels like im back on the lg g3 forum all over again with posts like this...that should tell you something....complaints are UNIVERSAL until you buy the damn thing

mgbotoe said:
Always the black man, I am offended samsung ....#sue
...and honestly, if you are not willing to try the phone hands on you have no right to complain about it. touchwiz will always lag next STOCK android. it is no DIFFERENT next to an lg, xperia, and htc is SLIGHTLY (thats a stretch) better in the lag department because it is the CLOSEST to stock android.
With all your complaint, either go buy an iphone or go buy a nexus device because 3rd party manufacturers are not for you lol. feels like im back on the lg g3 forum all over again with posts like this...that should tell you something....complaints are UNIVERSAL until you buy the damn thing
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Well if I could gather some respective opinions first before going out and spending $750+ then I'd rather go that route. Not too mention, if the phone does not work out for me, I'd have to pay T-Mobile a $50 restocking fee. So excuse me for using a "forum" the way it was designed.
Third party manufactures are not a bad thing, however, after using the S3 & S4, I have noticed a slow down or lag when it shouldn't be there, given the specs. I have read various reports of the Note 4 doing the same thing, so I figured I'd ask.

BlockEight88 said:
Well rooting and flashing roms can be an amazing thing. It's just that I did that before with my S3 and S4 and I was always changing roms, never keeping anything lol. It also got annoying have to re-setup everything all the time when updates came. I think you could get into trouble by dirty flashing.
How is your signal reception? Do you use T-Mobile? How is the GPS accuracy?
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Using Tmobile Note 4 on AT&T. I get full LTE everywhere. I actually get faster speeds than the AT&T model on AT&T got.
Have absolutely NO GPS issues. I don't know where that complaint came from, I leave my location settings on this phone to "Device only" which means it doesn't use the WiFi or cell signal to locate me at all and have still never had any issues.
With the device on "high accuracy" it locates you instantly.
Not to mention the battery life on this thing is absolutely insane.
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Using Tmobile Note 4 on AT&T. I get full LTE everywhere. I actually get faster speeds than the AT&T model on AT&T got.
Have absolutely NO GPS issues. I don't know where that complaint came from, I leave my location settings on this phone to "Device only" which means it doesn't use the WiFi or cell signal to locate me at all and have still never had any issues.
With the device on "high accuracy" it locates you instantly.
Not to mention the battery life on this thing is absolutely insane.
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Thank you for your opinion. Can I ask when you bought the T-Mobile phone if you had service through them? I am reading that before the device is unlocked it first must be activated and used on its original carrier.

BlockEight88 said:
Well if I could gather some respective opinions first before going out and spending $750+ then I'd rather go that route. Not too mention, if the phone does not work out for me, I'd have to pay T-Mobile a $50 restocking fee. So excuse me for using a "forum" the way it was designed.
Third party manufactures are not a bad thing, however, after using the S3 & S4, I have noticed a slow down or lag when it shouldn't be there, given the specs. I have read various reports of the Note 4 doing the same thing, so I figured I'd ask.
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Lol, see it how you will im just stating the hard cold fact on the matter.
Point im trying to make is that EVERY single manufacturer will have the issue you just stated, thats the plain cold fact. Heck, even Nexus is having the complaints you are currently having.
Its a lottery my friend. If you are one of the unlucky ones you will end up with the unlucky device. If you want to nit pick at everything, you will end up with an unlucky device because you will always see something wrong.
See where I'm getting at?
The phone is great, it does not lag the way you are making it sound. I got zero screen issue and I'm satisfy with the sound of it...ITS LOUD. Unless you want your ears to bleed, the Note 4 is not for you. You want to use it as a boombox...the note 4 is not for you. It is smooth for what we KNOW to expect from samsung. They got so many things on here that needs to load and given the time they do and the tweaks I have on my phone, I'm satisfy and will forgive it. If you can't forgive it, than go grab an iphone or a nexus. We can bash on iphone all we want but their optimization is brilliant! They and google do so damn good job at it and make every other phone look like crap next to them (...nexus that is, im giving too much credit to icrap here lmao!) as far as "lag" is concern.
Also to make another note, most of the lag complain you see also deals with google apps. For some odd reason the only phone google apps (especially hangout) work flawlessly on are nexus devices, any other you will see lag. Nave samsung apps are FAR SUPERIOR in smoothness next to hangout. Using it make my phone feel like a cheap second rated phone

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Lol, see it how you will im just stating the hard cold fact on the matter.
Point im trying to make is that EVERY single manufacturer will have the issue you just stated, thats the plain cold fact. Heck, even Nexus is having the complaints you are currently having.
Its a lottery my friend. If you are one of the unlucky ones you will end up with the unlucky device. If you want to nit pick at everything, you will end up with an unlucky device because you will always see something wrong.
See where I'm getting at?
The phone is great, it does not lag the way you are making it sound. I got zero screen issue and I'm satisfy with the sound of it...ITS LOUD. Unless you want your ears to bleed, the Note 4 is not for you. You want to use it as a boombox...the note 4 is not for you. It is smooth for what we KNOW to expect from samsung. They got so many things on here that needs to load and given the time they do and the tweaks I have on my phone, I'm satisfy and will forgive it. If you can't forgive it, than go grab an iphone or a nexus. We can bash on iphone all we want but their optimization is brilliant! They and google do so damn good job at it and make every other phone look like crap next to them (...nexus that is, im giving too much credit to icrap here lmao!) as far as "lag" is concern.
Also to make another note, most of the lag complain you see also deals with google apps. For some odd reason the only phone google apps (especially hangout) work flawlessly on are nexus devices, any other you will see lag. Nave samsung apps are FAR SUPERIOR in smoothness next to hangout. Using it make my phone feel like a cheap second rated phone
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I appreciate that. You are right about every manufacturer having its issues. When I tried the iPhone 6 plus, it lagged too. But not as bad as my previous experience with Samsung devices. Perhaps "lag" isn't the right word. I guess the right word would be stutter. I always found the animations to be a tad jerky on Samsung devices, despite awesome specs. Hopefully its as improved as everyone here is making it out to be.
Its a shame though they don't make the headphone volume go louder. :/

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Well if I could gather some respective opinions first before going out and spending $750+ then I'd rather go that route. Not too mention, if the phone does not work out for me, I'd have to pay T-Mobile a $50 restocking fee. So excuse me for using a "forum" the way it was designed.
Third party manufactures are not a bad thing, however, after using the S3 & S4, I have noticed a slow down or lag when it shouldn't be there, given the specs. I have read various reports of the Note 4 doing the same thing, so I figured I'd ask.
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Well considering best buy has them to demo and so does TMOBILE. I say hit the stores and you decide. So many threads about the phone not being perfect. Also every phone cost 500 plus so it not that big anymore. A smartphone comes with a smart phone price. U need to see for your self. I love it my boy hates it. It your money you need to go and see.

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Well considering best buy has them to demo and so does TMOBILE. I say hit the stores and you decide. So many threads about the phone not being perfect. Also every phone cost 500 plus so it not that big anymore. A smartphone comes with a smart phone price. U need to see for your self. I love it my boy hates it. It your money you need to go and see.
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The only thing with going to Best Buy and T-Mobile is that they have demo versions running on the phone, which can slow everything down.

Honestly, you should just buy a note 4. Nothing else now or in the near future compares.
My headphones are too loud. If there is such a thing.
Screen is what everyone I show the phone notices. In a good drooling/jealous way.
I've never had a phone with less lag.
I am custom however. Firekat v4

Questions for owners of this phone

I'm on Verizon and I have an upgrade in a few weeks. I am between either the Motorola Droid Turbo or the HTC One M8. It seems like they both have their issues, making it hard for me to choose one. Here are my main concerns:
How does the phone feel while using it?
Does the ballistic nylon version have problems? I read the back of the phone can become screwed up.
Is the sound quality bad when using headphones? And are the speakers bad?
How is call quality? Does this phone have a good microphone?
How is the display? Are the colors bad?
How is the camera?
Can this phone be unlocked or rooted or is there at least a chance of it in the future?
I'd appreciate answers to these questions. Thank you.

joshua.b said:
I'm on Verizon and I have an upgrade in a few weeks. I am between either the Motorola Droid Turbo or the HTC One M8. It seems like they both have their issues, making it hard for me to choose one. Here are my main concerns:
How does the phone feel while using it?
Does the ballistic nylon version have problems? I read the back of the phone can become screwed up.
Is the sound quality bad when using headphones? And are the speakers bad?
How is call quality? Does this phone have a good microphone?
How is the display? Are the colors bad?
How is the camera?
Can this phone be unlocked or rooted or is there at least a chance of it in the future?
I'd appreciate answers to these questions. Thank you.
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1. phone feels great. Solidly built, buttons are nice and responsive. I use an Otterbox Commuter case but you don't really need to
2. No idea about the nylon, people said they really like it, i just prefer the kevlar
3. Sound quality and speakers are awesome; very loud. Sound quality is more based on the equalizer and app you're using when using headphones(for example, poweramp sounds 1000x better than using any other app, but its due to the equalizers and settings they have)
4. call quality is great. Microphone works perfectly fine. I havent had any issues and my house has a ****ty signal
5. Display is awesome. Colors are bright and vibrant. this whole nits being lower thing is garbage. I cam from an s3 which has higher nits than this, and this phones blows it out of the water.
6. Camera is decent. I don't use it that often but so far the pictures I have taken come out really nice. Some people say the shutter speed is slow, but they likely have HDR set to on or auto, so of course the shutter will be slower
7. Rooted/unlocked not as of right now, but it's been out for what, 3 weeks? Give it time and it will definitely be rooted/unlocked. There's already a bounty going out. You really don't need an unlocked bootloader but root would be ideal. All verizon and moto apps can be disabled giving you a stock android experience. I want root for gravity box but despite being an avid rooter/flasher, I see no reason to flash a new ROM.

Great phone...Noway I would get HTC ..Sounds like possibility of root just got better today...
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Best phone I've ever had... A lot better than lg g2..

Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.
http://bit.ly/1yY9KKJ

beddachedda said:
Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.]
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honeymoon phase? True
Actually, I don't think the camera is that great. Try to take a photo of a piece of paper with nothing but text on it. The text in the photo will not be straight but curves.
Of course my camera of choice is a Canon EOS 60D DSLR.

Here is an example of what I am talking about:
The first yellow line shows that line of text almost straight. I can blame that on not keeping the camera perfectly level. While the second yellow line shows that line of text to be off by quite a bit. It gets worse the more text there is in the photo.

beddachedda said:
Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.
http://bit.ly/1yY9KKJ
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This answer helps nobody. Are you aware that many people arrive here via a google search? I also think people are smart enough to understand that comments in a device specific forum will be somewhat biased towards that device.

impala454 said:
This answer helps nobody. Are you aware that many people arrive here via a google search? I also think people are smart enough to understand that comments in a device specific forum will be somewhat biased towards that device.
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Yeah, and I have read reviews, but I posted this thread here to get a bigger range of opinions rather than judging certain aspects of the phone through a few reviews. Sometimes in a review there'll be a complaint that many others have not experienced or they may have exaggerated, or user error, etc. I want to take my purchase on the safe side.
Anyways, I'm deciding on the Turbo. Thanks to all who replied; I appreciate the responses.

I love my Droid Turbo. No issues at all

I came from an S3 too. I can say there may be a few Samsung tweaks that you'll miss. Sometimes Samsung goes overboard, but they also ADD features and options that stock Android doesn't have. But other than that and one bug that's driving me crazy, this is one amazingly awesome phone. I've been eligible for an upgrade for several months and was just waiting for the right phone. My main desires were all answered in the Droid Turbo: Fast Processor, at least 3GB RAM, battery that would last all day even with heavy usage, and a screen size that was large enough but not ridiculously big.
I have not been disappointed.

Go Turbo Go !
I went from a Razr M to a HTC One M8, to the Droid Turbo.
The ergo of the HTC is out of this world, for a large phone, one handed use was not really an issue. The Dot View case, gimmicky but it did work and it was nice to able to do some functions with it closed.
Call quality has been fine, signal is better than the M8 was, I didn't have 4g in my hobby room with it, I do with the Turbo.
Everything else has been echoed in this post. Remember, you have 14 days to take it back and yes, you'll have to eat the 35 bucks. Take it for a spin, I think you'll be surprised in a good way !

I went from the Galaxy Nexus to the Turbo with 64 gb of storage. EVERYTHING is much better on the Turbo, except two things: Screen Mirroring is terrible on the Turbo and no WiFI Hotspot without paying Verizon for double-dipping. If these two items are VERY important to you don't buy the Turbo.

Is it true that the ballistic nylon will start to fray eventually? I'm thinking of getting the kevlar backing because of that.

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Is it true that the ballistic nylon will start to fray eventually? I'm thinking of getting the kevlar backing because of that.
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Don't see why that would be the case, in my opinion the Ballistic back with the raised metallic Droid emblem without the Verizon badging is far more stylish and unique.

smokie11 said:
Don't see why that would be the case, in my opinion the Ballistic back with the raised metallic Droid emblem without the Verizon badging is far more stylish and unique.
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Yeah, I'd definitely go for it if I hadn't heard of the nylon fraying for some. Plus the extra 32gb for $50 is a good deal.

Without a case I believe it will fray for sure in time, because it doesn't slide easy, but it also might keep you from dropping it or sliding out of a pocket...with a case is a moot point. the 64 gb is COOL. I didn't buy the Samsung 5 because 16 gb is not cool.

I'll just add my experience that the ballistic nylon version was way too slippery for me. I felt like I'd drop it all the time. I exchanged it for a black kevlar version and it's quite a bit grippier. I don't use a case so that may matter less to those who do.

smokie11 said:
64 gb is COOL.
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It is cool, isn't it.

smokie11 said:
I went from the Galaxy Nexus to the Turbo with 64 gb of storage. EVERYTHING is much better on the Turbo, except two things: Screen Mirroring is terrible on the Turbo and no WiFI Hotspot without paying Verizon for double-dipping. If these two items are VERY important to you don't buy the Turbo.
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Screen mirroring working 100% fine here via Chromecast. And you can't complain about the WiFi hotspot feature being an issue specific to the Turbo, that affects every single phone launched to date. It is against the terms of service of your contract to use a third party workaround or a root method to enable tethering. Not saying I haven't done it, not saying you will get caught or have any trouble, just that your contract explicitly states that it isn't allowed.
All of Verizon's plans for the last year or so have allowed tethering for no additional charge, and if you are stuck on an old legacy plan then it's your own fault for refusing to migrate to something more modern.

I resolved the screen mirroring, is no longer a problem, it required using Chromecast, it worked rather badly before I installed it. In regards to Hotspot if you want to pay for it buy the Turbo, if you don't; buy a Samsung phone. Good luck with your decision.

Just jumped to this device......

From this device........
It's on sale for $324 right now and I've been sitting on an available jump. Nothing else I really want or want to spend a ton of money on ATM. I'd like the z5 premium but can't justify the $800 price tag. I mean, I'll get bored of it like every other phone I get. With jump, I never feel like I lose out much.
This is a pretty decent phone and I have like 4 spare batteries and and couple large capacity memory cards. My wife has the v10 and I was gonna get that, but the more I hold it, the less I like it. Heavy and huge feeling. And the speaker is really low compared to this one.
Guess I'm sticking with this for a while. ?
Any others feel the same?

It's a good phone. Battery life is a bit low, and the screen doesn't get as bright or dim as I'd like. But OMG expandable storage and replaceable batteries. And I'd love a bug free AOSP ROM but considering even Nexus devices only occasionally have that I can't complain too much. Gonna be my daily driver for a while.

I brought one for my girlfriend considering the low price, seems like a no brainer.
I bought this device when it first came out came it was a bit of a nightmare with all the touch screen issues. Hopefully a lot of the issues I had are ironed out, but at this low price I can live with some of the issues I dealt with.
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20degrees said:
From this device........
It's on sale for $324 right now and I've been sitting on an available jump. Nothing else I really want or want to spend a ton of money on ATM. I'd like the z5 premium but can't justify the $800 price tag. I mean, I'll get bored of it like every other phone I get. With jump, I never feel like I lose out much.
This is a pretty decent phone and I have like 4 spare batteries and and couple large capacity memory cards. My wife has the v10 and I was gonna get that, but the more I hold it, the less I like it. Heavy and huge feeling. And the speaker is really low compared to this one.
Guess I'm sticking with this for a while. ?
Any others feel the same?
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just did the same thing, shaved 100 bucks on the balance owed, get a new phone and an extra charger and cable. None of the new phones do much for me right now.

Price is back up $399...glad I was able to scoop one up.
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Yea I noticed the price went up. Still a good deal though.

ghagiel said:
It's a good phone. Battery life is a bit low, and the screen doesn't get as bright or dim as I'd like. But OMG expandable storage and replaceable batteries. And I'd love a bug free AOSP ROM but considering even Nexus devices only occasionally have that I can't complain too much. Gonna be my daily driver for a while.
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Try lux lite dash, it alot better that lg at managing screen brightness

Damn just got my phone this morning and I can see the touch screen sensitivity issue that plague the original released batches are gone now.
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shook187 said:
Damn just got my phone this morning and I can see the touch screen sensitivity issue that plague the original released batches are gone now.
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Can you explain the issue? I just got one and I saw a few times when in chrome it opened some links I'm pretty sure I didn't touch, or barely touched so I'm wondering if it's from that issue.

Issue was typing and such. It would jump and skip and play hopscotch.
It is fixed in newer devices.
Got the new jump device yesterday. Screen seems brighter than the last.
Edited for mis-swipes.

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Can you explain the issue? I just got one and I saw a few times when in chrome it opened some links I'm pretty sure I didn't touch, or barely touched so I'm wondering if it's from that issue.
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The issue was miss-taps and swipes. When you tapped on the screen it wouldn't register or when you swipe to move to the next homepage or anything that requires swipe it would register it as a tap instead of a swipe. It was extremely frustrating and totally ruined experience for me.
I returned several devices and each one had the same issue, I finally gave up and exchanged it for a Note 5.
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Definitely worth it. I had to send it back for touch issues and those were fixed when I got my phone back. Getting ready to test the new MM ROMs & see how those go. First I am testing a debloated minimal ROM, then moving that way if I don't like it.