Hi I have a HTC ONE MODEL: HTCPN072. It is a sprint phone I just baught on the web. The problem I have is that the cellphone cannot connect when ever i put in a Jamaican SIM Card in it. When ever I put in a GSM sim card it is saying 'Invalid SIM CARD. 4G service are unavailable as the sim/UICC is invalid'' I dont know if u can Help me please because this phone is a brand new one!
Can this phone be used in Jamaica? on 2G and 3G networks?
How do I know if it is a GSM OR CDMA mobile phone?
rohan1992 said:
Hi I have a HTC ONE MODEL: HTCPN072. It is a sprint phone I just baught on the web. The problem I have is that the cellphone cannot connect when ever i put in a Jamaican SIM Card in it. When ever I put in a GSM sim card it is saying 'Invalid SIM CARD. 4G service are unavailable as the sim/UICC is invalid'' I dont know if u can Help me please because this phone is a brand new one!
Can this phone be used in Jamaica? on 2G and 3G networks?
How do I know if it is a GSM OR CDMA mobile phone?
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Is the phone sim unlocked? I don't know how it works with Sprint but that would be the case with GSM providers
If it's Sprint, it's CDMA.AT&T and T-Mobile are the only GSM providers in the US. However, it should work there if you get the SIM unlocked. The SIM unlock code is formulated based on the IMEI, so there are three ways to get it:
From Sprint. Probably the simplest, but tricky if you're not the phone's original owner.
Pay a site or unlocking service with the algorithm that decodes it from the IMEI. Usually runs around $10-$20.
Try the steps in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586704
You can also try this app, but it only works on rooted phones running the original ROM:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.viper.simunlockhelperfree
Good luck.
How do i go about unlocking the Sim? I cant get the unlock box where I put in the code to come up!
rohan1992 said:
How do i go about unlocking the Sim? I cant get the unlock box where I put in the code to come up!
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Bro, A CDMA PHONE CANNOT BE UNLOCKED. IT WON'T EVEN WORK ON ANOTHER CDMA CARRIER LIKE VERIZON. ONLY SPRINT SIMs WILL WORK.
Make sure u buy a GSM phone if u plan 2 use it on another carrier.
But the phone uses GSM! It picks up the network here but I just cant get the unlock box
rohan1992 said:
But the phone uses GSM! It picks up the network here but I just cant get the unlock box
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Then it simply isn't a Sprint handset. CDMA phones can only work on that particular network. The phone is custom-made just for that network
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How do I use my AT&T sim because I inserted it and Cyanogenmod said RESTART TO USE MOBILE DATA OR WHATEVER.
Restart and nothing...
HTC Sent me my IMEI unlock codes and I just wanna get this working already....
I just need to use the 1900Mhz band for 3G.... It's a supported band for GSM 3G ....
THANKS
Yeah? I am S-OFF finally I thought that may help...
Basically the "Network Operators" screen is greyed out can't register with ATT
Anyway which specific rom should I use?
Why can't I unlock it for all ROM's? I want to use Cyanogenmod because of it's awesome battery life and light-ness....
Anyway is there a different way the sim goes in the slot than AT&T? I got a message it says SIM Not Detected.
I'll look it up...
THANKS
Still nothing to this day cannot get it to work on AT&T can someone help?
my friend just gave me his t-mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 4. i have the unlock code for the device. can i use my sprint sim card on this device? i have code. i tried to unlocked the device and then when i tried to use my cellular date i get this massage "Not registered on network" is it possible to use my sprint sim card on this device.
no. you cannot. needs to be a GSM provider (att or tmobile)
Zepius said:
no. you cannot. needs to be a GSM provider (att or tmobile)
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Even if the phone is rooted, unlocked, and the cell network changed to CDMA? I've used some Rom's that allow u to make that change just not sure if it'll actually work. .... thanks for any help
Hello, I would like to start off by congratulating all the users and devs for building a nice community around the HTC Desire 510.
I have a Cricket HTC Desire 510 that I have just recently installed recovery and root on.
I have contacted Cricket and acquired the 8-digit Network SIM Unlock PIN, so that I can put my Virgin Mobile SIM Card in the phone and not be stuck on the "Network SIM Lock" page.
This is where I am stuck and need some advice, I would like to get this phone working in Virgin Mobile.
I have the Cricket phone carrier unlocked now with my Virgin Mobile SIM card in the phone, but I am unable to get any signal and when searching for Network Carriers in the mobile data menu, it only shows AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Metro PCS, and Edge Wireless.
Will I need to unlock basebands, flash a new radio, firmware or something else? I am still on Cricket stock rom, kernel, firmware, radio, ect.
I have heard of tools like CDMA Workshop and DFS Tools to flash phones with, but they usually referred to phones without sim cards in those tutorials.
Thank you for your help.
EDIT: It appears that even though I removed my Virgin Mobile SIM card from my previous phone, it still works normally, which may mean that what I am trying to do is not possible, please let me know, thank you.
djemergenc said:
Hello, I would like to start off by congratulating all the users and devs for building a nice community around the HTC Desire 510.
I have a Cricket HTC Desire 510 that I have just recently installed recovery and root on.
I have contacted Cricket and acquired the 8-digit Network SIM Unlock PIN, so that I can put my Virgin Mobile SIM Card in the phone and not be stuck on the "Network SIM Lock" page.
This is where I am stuck and need some advice, I would like to get this phone working in Virgin Mobile.
I have the Cricket phone carrier unlocked now with my Virgin Mobile SIM card in the phone, but I am unable to get any signal and when searching for Network Carriers in the mobile data menu, it only shows AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, Metro PCS, and Edge Wireless.
Will I need to unlock basebands, flash a new radio, firmware or something else? I am still on Cricket stock rom, kernel, firmware, radio, ect.
I have heard of tools like CDMA Workshop and DFS Tools to flash phones with, but they usually referred to phones without sim cards in those tutorials.
Thank you for your help.
EDIT: It appears that even though I removed my Virgin Mobile SIM card from my previous phone, it still works normally, which may mean that what I am trying to do is not possible, please let me know, thank you.
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It's not possible to do what you're trying to do! Virgin Mobile will not accept any phone that's from another carrier trust me I've tried it with a Samsung galaxy and they would not do it!
The MEID from your cricket phone is not in Virgin Mobile's system and they're never going to put it in there either!!
Edit: The SIM card in these types of phone's are only to get you an LTE signal... You can remove the SIM card and you'll still get 3G and be able to fully use the phone just without LTE so really putting the SIM in another phone isn't helping anything.
Has anyone been able to SIM / network unlock Sprint variant of LG G4? For international use? for domestic carriers?
The phone appears to be locked. I tried putting GSM micro SIM and putting phone in to GSM mode. Got an icon about invalid SIM in notification tray. But no prompt to unlock. Also no menu in settings to unlock via network like my note 3 had. Even worse, no menu to select GSM Network operator in the settings.
leond said:
Has anyone been able to SIM / network unlock Sprint variant of LG G4? For international use? for domestic carriers?
The phone appears to be locked. I tried putting GSM micro SIM and putting phone in to GSM mode. Got an icon about invalid SIM in notification tray. But no prompt to unlock. Also no menu in settings to unlock via network like my note 3 had. Even worse, no menu to select GSM Network operator in the settings.
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if you are in US i think you can call sprint and they will unlock your phone for free.
elmy2424 said:
if you are in US i think you can call sprint and they will unlock your phone for free.
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I know , that is the theory, I am curious if anybody actually tried it. I am concerned about the fact that I don't see a menu to select GSM network, which was there in Note 3
it almost looks like the phone can roam on GSM network using Sprint SIM, but all the menus that would allow presence of different SIM where removed.
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I know , that is the theory, I am curious if anybody actually tried it. I am concerned about the fact that I don't see a menu to select GSM network, which was there in Note 3
it almost looks like the phone can roam on GSM network using Sprint SIM, but all the menus that would allow presence of different SIM where removed.
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that option is just hidden, when someone get the phone unlocked the option in the menu will be enabled, are you inside USA
I did try a Simple Mobile Sim and it worked just fine. Have you tried any of the movs from Att or Tmobile??
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Friend called Sprint and they unlocked his phone OTA. Now when non-sprint SIM is inserted it no longer complains about invalid SIM, however it will not connect to any networks in USA and still no way to see a list of networks or do a manual selection of network. That menu is still missing. I suspect the phone will now work outside of the USA in automatic network selection mode only, which may not be a good thing some times.
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Friend called Sprint and they unlocked his phone OTA. Now when non-sprint SIM is inserted it no longer complains about invalid SIM, however it will not connect to any networks in USA and still no way to see a list of networks or do a manual selection of network. That menu is still missing. I suspect the phone will now work outside of the USA in automatic network selection mode only, which may not be a good thing some times.
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Ive got a really smart friend working on it... Im positive he'll get it done.. Jt matter of patience now...
Google~Android said:
Ive got a really smart friend working on it... Im positive he'll get it done.. Jt matter of patience now...
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Doesn't matter what you try, you cannot use Sprint's phone on AT&T T-mobile here or any US GSM carriers. When sprint unlocks it for you, then you can use it outside of US on GSM Networks.
chirayu said:
Doesn't matter what you try, you cannot use Sprint's phone on AT&T T-mobile here or any US GSM carriers. When sprint unlocks it for you, then you can use it outside of US on GSM Networks.
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You must be new here. Domestic gsm has been unlocked on most modern Sprint smart phones. Just in the years I've been with Sprint ive unlocked the Moto Q, G2, S4, and now the G3 for ATT and straight talk. Ive read of several others having the same ability. The s5 can also be unlocked but only one guy knows how but you gotta pay him for it. Kinda ****ty but it actually works.
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just get shortcut master (lite)
click the 3 dots in the upper right, click secret code explorer, click system apps and there are a few ATT hidden menus in there.
now no clue if they do anything.
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Doesn't matter what you try, you cannot use Sprint's phone on AT&T T-mobile here or any US GSM carriers. When sprint unlocks it for you, then you can use it outside of US on GSM Networks.
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You didnt listen... Sprint phone works 100% for att.. They jt blocks it at the software level... But my friends has unlocked all the newer sprint phones till now.. I dont see why he shudnt be able to do it here
Any chances of unlocking when outside US? I got my phone from Amazon and got it shipped in my country. Tried calling them but they said they only unlock activated phones. Also tried various sites that offer unlock codes but since G4 is not asking for unlock code, they can't do anything.
Do I have any other options?
For those still trying to unlock, I've followed this post for unlocking the G3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/sim-unlocking-ls990-zv8-t3083567
And I can now accept calls, will try it out some other time if I can get data as well.
Note: Make sure you have the correct permissions on the files that you'll copy.
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For those still trying to unlock, I've followed this post for unlocking the G3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/sim-unlocking-ls990-zv8-t3083567
And I can now accept calls, will try it out some other time if I can get data as well.
Note: Make sure you have the correct permissions on the files that you'll copy.
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will this work for at&t?? on just international?
Google~Android said:
will this work for at&t?? on just international?
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I can't confirm, since I don't have access to any AT&T SIM at the moment. If you're already rooted, you can try it out, but make sure to back up the files.
Another update: After updating the APN, my data finally worked. LTE is impossible at the moment since the this doesn't support the LTE bands here in my country
Warning: Don't try to disable auto activation for now. I got the Security Error and still on the process of fixing it.
ijball said:
For those still trying to unlock, I've followed this post for unlocking the G3.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-lg-g3/general/sim-unlocking-ls990-zv8-t3083567
And I can now accept calls, will try it out some other time if I can get data as well.
Note: Make sure you have the correct permissions on the files that you'll copy.
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In the us or internationally?
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In the us or internationally?
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Internationally.
!!!!! i got it working on at&t!!! calling and sms work..I dont have data so i can't test that...ending a call gives issues as it hangs there for a bit!!!
I have the Sprint LG G4
I also got the unlock code from Sprint. But I can't get the phone to ask for the unlock code. Any hints. Can I force it to ask?
I have this HTC Desire 510 Sprint Phone, it has the SIM slot but in they said me that is only for the G4 connection.
Thanks in advance
necropersa said:
I have this HTC Desire 510 Sprint Phone, it has the SIM slot but in they said me that is only for the G4 connection.
Thanks in advance
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tap phone and open the dialing pad an hit *#*#4636#*#* then tap Phone information and scroll down to "set preferred network type" in there you'll find a way to switch to LTE/GSM but I don't know if it will work unless the phone is S-off or already carrier unlocked.
Hi! thank for the responce.
My phone carrier is unlocked, i do what you said, then restar the phone, then put the SIM pin and a pop up message appear "Unlocking SIM" wait for 30 minuts and nothing happens, the little popup window remains there, the only way to take it off is pulling off the SIM.
necropersa said:
Hi! thank for the responce.
My phone carrier is unlocked, i do what you said, then restar the phone, then put the SIM pin and a pop up message appear "Unlocking SIM" wait for 30 minuts and nothing happens, the little popup window remains there, the only way to take it off is pulling off the SIM.
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Because the phone is not truly sim unlocked.
MrMike2182 said:
Because the phone is not truly sim unlocked.
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Where can i officially confirm that info? The phone has the SIM slot.
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Where can i officially confirm that info? The phone has the SIM slot.
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So does mine and it's also CDMA and from what I know the CDMA phones cannot be unlocked from the carrier to use another network and the only one cable of doing that is the GSM phone not the CDMA ones. So mines still locked to Sprint and I'm s-off too.
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So does mine and it's also CDMA and from what I know the CDMA phones cannot be unlocked from the carrier to use another network and the only one cable of doing that is the GSM phone not the CDMA ones. So mines still locked to Sprint and I'm s-off too.
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how to get s-off on desire 510? thank you
ajmdve said:
how to get s-off on desire 510? thank you
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If you want to get s-off, and your phone is 32 bit and NOT 64 bit, you can go to the website ---> The Root Ninja and download the app called Sunshine that @jcase made specifically for obtaining s-off. After you get your one time, one use license, if you need help with it you can either talk to @jcase or if he's not available you can come back here and I'll help you out. If your phone is 64 bit don't bother even trying to s-off it's not going to work with Sunshine and don't bother @jcase about it working for 64 bit because it doesn't and won't.
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If you want to get s-off, and your phone is 32 bit and NOT 64 bit, you can go to the website ---> The Root Ninja and download the app called Sunshine that @jcase made specifically for obtaining s-off. After you get your one time, one use license, if you need help with it you can either talk to @jcase or if he's not available you can come back here and I'll help you out. If your phone is 64 bit don't bother even trying to s-off it's not going to work with Sunshine and don't bother @jcase about it working for 64 bit because it doesn't and won't.
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thank you very much, just to be sure, do i have to be in the stock rom or s-off can be achieved on any rom?
oh, and maybe someone in here knows to to get gsm networks on the virgin mobile 510? i have sim unlucked the phone but it doesnt get any signal. i live in latin america.
thank you
PD: nevermid about s-off because i cant pay 25 to do it. but thank you anyway
ajmdve said:
thank you very much, just to be sure, do i have to be in the stock rom or s-off can be achieved on any rom?
oh, and maybe someone in here knows to to get gsm networks on the virgin mobile 510? i have sim unlucked the phone but it doesnt get any signal. i live in latin america.
thank you
PD: nevermid about s-off because i cant pay 25 to do it. but thank you anyway
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If you're not in USA then it doesn't matter because you're phone is most likely 64 bit since only 32 bit is sold in USA. If you're sim unlocked already there might be a way to get GSM to work so try this... Open the phones dialing pad and enter code *#*#4636#*#* and then tap Phone Information and then scroll down to "Set preferred network type" and select LTE/GSM auto (PRL) and then see if you can get it to work. But you'll most likely need your service providers APN (Access Point Name) and you'll have to set it up in the phones Settings in Network.
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If you're not in USA then it doesn't matter because you're phone is most likely 64 bit since only 32 bit is sold in USA. If you're sim unlocked already there might be a way to get GSM to work so try this... Open the phones dialing pad and enter code *#*#4636#*#* and then tap Phone Information and then scroll down to "Set preferred network type" and select LTE/GSM auto (PRL) and then see if you can get it to work. But you'll most likely need your service providers APN (Access Point Name) and you'll have to set it up in the phones Settings in Network.
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no, my phone is a virgin mobile (from sprint) i have tried the 4636 menu but with no luck, the phone only allows me to change to some of the options like LTE only, LTE CDMA, LTE WCDMA, CDMA EVDO GSM WCDMA LTE AUTO, GSM WCDMA LTE AUTO, GSM WCDMA, CDMA + LTE EVDO AUTO, and others and with any it doesnt wrabs signal. any of the gsm ones should do the trick but none does it.
and when i try to auto connect to network show that my simcard dont allow connection to this network and i tried 2 working sims with the same result
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no, my phone is a virgin mobile (from sprint) i have tried the 4636 menu but with no luck, the phone only allows me to change to some of the options like LTE only, LTE CDMA, LTE WCDMA, CDMA EVDO GSM WCDMA LTE AUTO, GSM WCDMA LTE AUTO, GSM WCDMA, CDMA + LTE EVDO AUTO, and others and with any it doesnt wrabs signal. any of the gsm ones should do the trick but none does it.
and when i try to auto connect to network show that my simcard dont allow connection to this network and i tried 2 working sims with the same result
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I've tried to tell a lot of people that there's no way to get a CDMA Virgin Mobile brand phone to work on GSM Networks, it's impossible and no one bothers to listen to me so I don't tell people to not try anymore I just try to support what they want to do. It's never going to work but you can keep trying and if you find a way to get it to work post the solution here.
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I've tried to tell a lot of people that there's no way to get a CDMA Virgin Mobile brand phone to work on GSM Networks, it's impossible and no one bothers to listen to me so I don't tell people to not try anymore I just try to support what they want to do. It's never going to work but you can keep trying and if you find a way to get it to work post the solution here.
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ok, but how are you so sure?
the htc one m7 and the m8 from sprint can be used on gsm being cdma phones in first place, in fact i do own a htc one m8 from sprint that i succesfully unlocked and use it right now with a gsm network in my country.
also i do remember that other cdma/gsm phones like the htc pro 2 was capable to work on either network.
maybe something is still missing and we havent done all to achieve succes. ill keep try before selling the desire like this
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ok, but how are you so sure?
the htc one m7 and the m8 from sprint can be used on gsm being cdma phones in first place, in fact i do own a htc one m8 from sprint that i succesfully unlocked and use it right now with a gsm network in my country.
also i do remember that other cdma/gsm phones like the htc pro 2 was capable to work on either network.
maybe something is still missing and we havent done all to achieve succes. ill keep try before selling the desire like this
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Because Virgin Mobile purposely made it that way so that it can never be used with any other carrier but them... I know this because I have gone out of the Country a lot because I'm in the Military and when I asked VM to unlock the SIM card they said they cannot unlock it because even if they did it's never going to work with another SIM/Carrier and believe me I tried and tried while I was in Afghanistan and I eventually just gave up and bought a small stupid flip phone to use while over there instead. But like I said, you can keep trying. I'm not trying to tell you not to try because you might find a way when I couldn't.
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Because Virgin Mobile purposely made it that way so that it can never be used with any other carrier but them... I know this because I have gone out of the Country a lot because I'm in the Military and when I asked VM to unlock the SIM card they said they cannot unlock it because even if they did it's never going to work with another SIM/Carrier and believe me I tried and tried while I was in Afghanistan and I eventually just gave up and bought a small stupid flip phone to use while over there instead. But like I said, you can keep trying. I'm not trying to tell you not to try because you might find a way when I couldn't.
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ok, well look at this, it may worth to try
http://www.internauta37.altervista.org/it/patch-abilitare-completamente-il-gsm-sui-telefoni-cdma-globali-con-android
hello,
we had a discussion about it in other thread. people tried it, soffed 510, and tried all the way. i have sprint, virgin, boost 510 sim unlocked. i am using it with other cdma carrier with evdo working. i even tried it setting to gsm, but it doesnt works. i tried adding gsm bands via dfs tool too, but still it doesnt work. igsm bands are locked in radio or radio doesnt have support for it. We need a gsm 510 radio to work on it. if someone have a knowledge uptill radio level, who can patch radio of 510 then it may work..
but @MrMike2182 is right too.. lol , but we never know... like sprint htc m9... people thought its impossible to unlock, but now you can sim unlock it ..
stevestone said:
hello,
we had a discussion about it in other thread. people tried it, soffed 510, and tried all the way. i have sprint, virgin, boost 510 sim unlocked. i am using it with other cdma carrier with evdo working. i even tried it setting to gsm, but it doesnt works. i tried adding gsm bands via dfs tool too, but still it doesnt work. igsm bands are locked in radio or radio doesnt have support for it. We need a gsm 510 radio to work on it. if someone have a knowledge uptill radio level, who can patch radio of 510 then it may work..
but @MrMike2182 is right too.. lol , but we never know... like sprint htc m9... people thought its impossible to unlock, but now you can sim unlock it ..
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im begginning to suspect that the lower level devices the issue is that the hardware is acutially different. flagship phones are not made with many different variants,so the simlock and profile are controlled via software and thus able to be "unlocked"
ive gotten a sprint one max to work on gsm,but tried alot of different things trying to get a virgin mobile desire 816 to work with zero success. the fact that folks to use these phones on other cdma networks does indicate they are no longer sim locked.
cheaper phones like this the best advice is to sell it off and just get a gsm version. there are plenty out there that will work without the hassle.
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im begginning to suspect that the lower level devices the issue is that the hardware is acutially different. flagship phones are not made with many different variants,so the simlock and profile are controlled via software and thus able to be "unlocked"
ive gotten a sprint one max to work on gsm,but tried alot of different things trying to get a virgin mobile desire 816 to work with zero success. the fact that folks to use these phones on other cdma networks does indicate they are no longer sim locked.
cheaper phones like this the best advice is to sell it off and just get a gsm version. there are plenty out there that will work without the hassle.
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Trust me I've done everything under the sun to get this sucker to work on GSM and it won't do it... When Virgin Mobile refused to SIM unlock it saying it cannot be unlocked I got pissed and S-off'ed the phone and it works with other CDMA carriers but it just won't work with GSM but I was thinking it may have something to do with the radio but I don't want to mess around with that just yet because that'll brick it for sure if I get it wrong..
scotty1223 said:
im begginning to suspect that the lower level devices the issue is that the hardware is acutially different. flagship phones are not made with many different variants,so the simlock and profile are controlled via software and thus able to be "unlocked"
ive gotten a sprint one max to work on gsm,but tried alot of different things trying to get a virgin mobile desire 816 to work with zero success. the fact that folks to use these phones on other cdma networks does indicate they are no longer sim locked.
cheaper phones like this the best advice is to sell it off and just get a gsm version. there are plenty out there that will work without the hassle.
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true. lower end devices, dont have capabilities. i used htc one max sprint on gsm , it works on cdma with nv and also on simcard. m7 also works that way, but to make it work with other cdma sim, we have patched radio for m7, it was realased on some chinese forum, later posted by someone on xda. Htc one m8 sprint, verizon works best. works on gsm, works on cdma sim, works on nv too with other providers, you dont even need to touch radio.. i even relocked and got latest ota. still it works best with all. truly world phone..