iPhone Notifications on Gear via Growl ? - Samsung Galaxy Gear

Hi,
Just got the Galaxy Gear. Everything is setup with the null rom and I'm thinking about all the different ways to put notifications on it.
The first way i think would be to develop an app on the iPhone just like the pebble the problem is that most people who own a Gear don't have an iphone and vice versa. But maybe by faking the bluetooth profile of the gear on the iPhone and developing an app that would redirect notifications to the Gear we could do something.
Another way would be maybe to use Growlnotifier on the iPhone and growl for android on the Gear. With the first one you can redirect notifications from the iphone to a Growl Client via the IP Adress. What i don't know is if there is some kind of local network created between the gear and the iphone via bluetooth ? if not even when bluetooth internet tethering is on ?
I started to look the different ways but i need more help on this. if fOmey or anyone else could help that is motivated and has some knowledge about all this stuff that would be great !
Thanking you in advance

Accounti said:
Hi,
Just got the Galaxy Gear. Everything is setup with the null rom and I'm thinking about all the different ways to put notifications on it.
The first way i think would be to develop an app on the iPhone just like the pebble the problem is that most people who own a Gear don't have an iphone and vice versa. But maybe by faking the bluetooth profile of the gear on the iPhone and developing an app that would redirect notifications to the Gear we could do something.
Another way would be maybe to use Growlnotifier on the iPhone and growl for android on the Gear. With the first one you can redirect notifications from the iphone to a Growl Client via the IP Adress. What i don't know is if there is some kind of local network created between the gear and the iphone via bluetooth ? if not even when bluetooth internet tethering is on ?
I started to look the different ways but i need more help on this. if fOmey or anyone else could help that is motivated and has some knowledge about all this stuff that would be great !
Thanking you in advance
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If you could code a application which would push notifications from your iPhone to the gear using bluetooth, you will have a functional notification system..
This would involved both a app on the gear & the iPhone tho... so keep that in mind.

fOmey said:
If you could code a application which would push notifications from your iPhone to the gear using bluetooth, you will have a functional notification system..
This would involved both a app on the gear & the iPhone tho... so keep that in mind.
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The gear would need an app too ?! do you know which bluetooth protocol does it use ? MAP ?
Ok, so it would be a Growl-Like solution. Do you know if when connected over bluetooth the gear and the iPhone have some kind of IP adress ?

*watching*

A growl like IP based solution is not optimal. Direct BT communication would be preferable for a number of reasons.

gidi said:
A growl like IP based solution is not optimal. Direct BT communication would be preferable for a number of reasons.
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Yeah, I understand but let's start with a non-optimal solution and after begin to think about a better way.
Do you if it is possible to create a local network via Bluetooth ? I heard about an app pourquoi android that could send notifications to a computer via Bluetooth using growl (the name is notifier for android) but what I don't know is if there is some kind of IP address between the iPhone and the Gear. On the iPhone there is GrowlNotifier that can send growl notifications via the network to a growl server and on android there is Growl for android that can listen for growl notifications but I have to find a way to make them communicate !
I'm looking for some help here ! fomey and gidi I need you !!

Accounti said:
The gear would need an app too ?! do you know which bluetooth protocol does it use ? MAP ?
Ok, so it would be a Growl-Like solution. Do you know if when connected over bluetooth the gear and the iPhone have some kind of IP adress ?
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Bluetooth MAP protocol by definition on wikipedia:
Wikipedia said:
Message Access Profile (MAP)[edit]
Message Access Profile (MAP)[6] specification allows exchange of messages between devices. Mostly used for automotive handsfree use. The MAP profile can also be used for other uses that require the exchange of messages between two devices. The automotive Hands-Free use case is where an on-board terminal device (typically an electronic device as a Car-Kit installed in the car) can talk via messaging capability to another communication device (typically a mobile phone). For example, Bluetooth MAP is used by HP Send and receive text (SMS) messages from a Palm/HP smartphone to an HP TouchPad tablet.[7] Bluetooth MAP is used by Ford in select SYNC Generation 1-equipped 2011 and 2012 vehicles [8] and also by BMW with many of their iDrive systems. The Lexus LX and GS 2013 models both also support MAP as does the Honda CRV 2012, Acura 2013 and ILX 2013. Apple introduced Bluetooth MAP in iOS 6 for the iPhone and iPad. Android support was introduced in version 4.4 (KitKat).[9]
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The gear runs 4.2.2, so MAP is not supported on the gear.
The gear sends JSON requests via bluetooth, you would assume it uses MAP to do this although I don't believe it does. If it did, you would see alot more custom gear apps.
It uses a API embedded in all the APK's which require data transfer from host phone to gear..
If you decompile a gear APK it can be found in:
com.samsung.accessory.api
com.samsung.accessory.safiletransfer
com.samsung.android.sdk.accessory

fOmey said:
Bluetooth MAP protocol by definition on wikipedia:
The gear runs 4.2.2, so MAP is not supported on the gear.
The gear sends JSON requests via bluetooth, you would assume it uses MAP to do this although I don't believe it does.
It uses a API embedded in all the APK's which require data transfer from host phone to gear..
If you decompile a gear APK it can be found in:
com.samsung.accessory.api
com.samsung.accessory.safiletransfer
com.samsung.android.sdk.accessory
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Hmm that's not a good news.
There is no way on the Rom side to avoid this ?
This would only leave us with the Growl possibility...
Do you have any idea on the Bluetooth local network thing I talked earlier ?

Accounti said:
Hmm that's not a good news.
There is no way on the Rom side to avoid this ?
This would only leave us with the Growl possibility...
Do you have any idea on the Bluetooth local network thing I talked earlier ?
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What do you mean bluetooth local networking thing ?

fOmey said:
What do you mean bluetooth local networking thing ?
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I mean if when the gear is connected to the Iphone there is a local network that is created so that we could redirect the notifications of the iPhone via growl to the gear.
To do this we have to know the IP address of the gear to enter them in GrowlNotifier

Accounti said:
Yeah, I understand but let's start with a non-optimal solution and after begin to think about a better way.
Do you if it is possible to create a local network via Bluetooth ? I heard about an app pourquoi android that could send notifications to a computer via Bluetooth using growl (the name is notifier for android) but what I don't know is if there is some kind of IP address between the iPhone and the Gear. On the iPhone there is GrowlNotifier that can send growl notifications via the network to a growl server and on android there is Growl for android that can listen for growl notifications but I have to find a way to make them communicate !
I'm looking for some help here ! fomey and gidi I need you !!
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Dude, you certainly do not need me. I am not a dev. I was just one of the people in here who would love to see the Gear work with the iPhone. Put your hopes on fOmey!

gidi said:
Dude, you certainly do not need me. I am not a dev. I was just one of the people in here who would love to see the Gear work with the iPhone. Put your hopes on fOmey!
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Any help is welcome ! To try things or to try to contact developers ! (Maybe some iPhone tweak developers can help like rpetrich) they have a very good knowledge of iOS limitations and Bluetooth capabilities

fOmey said:
Bluetooth MAP protocol by definition on wikipedia:
The gear runs 4.2.2, so MAP is not supported on the gear.
The gear sends JSON requests via bluetooth, you would assume it uses MAP to do this although I don't believe it does. If it did, you would see alot more custom gear apps.
It uses a API embedded in all the APK's which require data transfer from host phone to gear..
If you decompile a gear APK it can be found in:
com.samsung.accessory.api
com.samsung.accessory.safiletransfer
com.samsung.android.sdk.accessory
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Maybe we could use something like this : https://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/wiki/Setup
Do you think guys that the tizen SDK for galaxy gear 2 released today could help us ?

Accounti said:
Maybe we could use something like this : https://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/wiki/Setup
Do you think guys that the tizen SDK for galaxy gear 2 released today could help us ?
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No.. its for tizen not for android. There two completely different OS's.
As for the android-notifier, try it dude.. I dont own a iphone I cant say..

fOmey said:
No.. its for tizen not for android. There two completely different OS's.
As for the android-notifier, try it dude.. I dont own a iphone I cant say..
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The problem is I don't know where to begin. I tried to get the IP address of the iPhone and the Gear via the Bluetooth PAN Connection. I did an ifconfig in the terminal on the gear and the iPhone. I told the iPhone to send growl notifications to the IP address (172.10.20.5 or something like that) but the Gear does not seem to receive anything ... I don't know if it is because the growl app on the gear is listening on the wifi only or what ...

Accounti said:
The problem is I don't know where to begin. I tried to get the IP address of the iPhone and the Gear via the Bluetooth PAN Connection. I did an ifconfig in the terminal on the gear and the iPhone. I told the iPhone to send growl notifications to the IP address (172.10.20.5 or something like that) but the Gear does not seem to receive anything ... I don't know if it is because the growl app on the gear is listening on the wifi only or what ...
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Do you need a receiver app running on the watch?

Brendo said:
Do you need a receiver app running on the watch?
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Yes I do, to be able to receive Growl notifications. I chose Growl For Android but maybe there is a problem with this one, do you have any idea about this ?

Accounti said:
The problem is I don't know where to begin. I tried to get the IP address of the iPhone and the Gear via the Bluetooth PAN Connection. I did an ifconfig in the terminal on the gear and the iPhone. I told the iPhone to send growl notifications to the IP address (172.10.20.5 or something like that) but the Gear does not seem to receive anything ... I don't know if it is because the growl app on the gear is listening on the wifi only or what ...
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Dude read the instructions on the site you posted..
If you use bluetooth a IP is not needed...
Bluetooth method
This method opens a serial (RFCOMM) connection between the device and the desktop, so they need to be paired. Because the device is specifically paired to your computer, you don't need any specific network connectivity, and the bluetooth connection is guaranteed to be encrypted.
IMPORTANT: This method is only supported in Android 2.0 or later, due to the bluetooth API not being accessible in older versions. To see what version of Android you have, go to Settings > About phone > Firmware version - if it's less than 2.0, you'll have to use the wi-fi method instead
To set it up using this method:
Install and run the Android app from the Android Market
Install and run the Desktop app for your OS from the Downloads section above
Ensure the android device is paired with your desktop (Settings > Wifi and networks > Bluetooth settings on Android)
Enable the Bluetooth notification method on the android app's settings (enabled by default)
Open bluetooth options in the android app's settings (see below for a description of each option)
Enable the Bluetooth notification method on the desktop app's settings (enabled by default)
The desktop app will listen to and start displaying events from the android app - try making your phone ring, or sending additional test notifications.
You can now exit the android app - the notifications service will be running in the background by default
The presented bluetooth options are the following:
Device pairing - select this to open Android's system bluetooth options, where you can pair your target device
Target device - once your device is paired, select this option to send notifications to a specific device. If this is set to "Any device" (the default), the notifications will be sent to the first computer device found
Auto-enable bluetooth - if enabled, notifications can be sent over bluetooth even if you keep it disabled - every time we need ot send a notification, we'll enable it, send the notification, then disable it again. The downside of this option is that it can take multiple seconds for the notification to actually be sent.
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The IP, must be a public IP.. not a local IP which bluetooth tethering would use.

fOmey said:
Dude read the instructions on the site you posted..
If you use bluetooth a IP is not needed...
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Yeah but this app is to send notifications from the android device to a computer. I wanted know if we could use the same protocol.

Accounti said:
Yeah but this app is to send notifications from the android device to a computer. I wanted know if we could use the same protocol.
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Its possible to do, although you would need a iphone jailbreak developer to code up a app..
For example look at M2D, it sends notifications from a android phone to the gear without gear manager.. it is possible.. I just dont know if there is already a existing app out there to do it.

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[Q] App for sending and receiving SMS from PC over 3G ??

I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
foxbat121 said:
Is Google Voice avilable to you (specifically, you will need a Google Voice phone number)? If so, that will be my recommendation. In addition to free SMS and visual voice mail, you can use your Google Voice anywhere that you have access to a web browser. It doesn't have to be your phone.
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No google voice is not available ( as mentioned in my last line , coz I knew some one would suggest that).
I wonder why no one has made such an app so far.
Maybe I'll have to write my own.. haven't done any android programing yet, guess its about the time.. waiting for a break from work to start playing around with it a bit...
PhoenixFx said:
I have seen few apps that are capable of doing this over Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB. But I am more interested in something that can do it over 3G. At work my desktop PC is not on a wireless network; there is Wi-Fi but on a spate subnet with no easy access to the main network. I do have Bluetooth / USB on my main desktop but I work from different PCs therefore its not very convenient for me to pair/connect it each time I go to a different PC. And I don’t use Wi-Fi at home either.
Then there are other benifits to using 3G like I can still access the phone even if I forget it somewhere (i.e at home in the car etc). The new HTC Sense services for HTC Desire HD will have remote access to SMS, call and location information , which is exactly what I'm after. But for now SMS alone is enough.
I came across one App called SMS2PC which can connect to a computer over 3G. But from what I gathered, with that the phone connects to the PC and pushes notifications, not the other way around. This is not going to work for me because at work I am behind a corporate firewall, so my phone cannot access the desktop.
Any other solutions ??
EDIT : i know SMS backup can backup text messages to google, but I can't reply from there. So that wont help much. And I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
HelloH said:
I use smstools. It is in every major repo. However - from your non-technical wording - I assume that you use the gamerz OS (Windos). Worry not, you can easily compile the program yourself, or google for binaries.
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Yes, I use Windows mostly . Thanks for that link, but I don't think thats quite what I want either. That seems to use the phone as a modem to send and receive SMSs; which means I'll have to connect the phone to a PC locally (i.e USB, IR, BT etc..).
I'm looking for a solution that allows me to connect to the phone remotely over the internet (phone online on 3G) to access and send messages. A setup where there is a PC client which polls the phone periodically for new messages and a server running on the phone allowing the PC client to gain access to its messaging service. So I don't have to connect/disconnect every time when changing PCs, it will also allow me to connect even when the phone is not with me (left behind at home / car ).
Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
HelloH said:
Ah, I got it now!
Well, of course you could compile SMSTOOLS for your phone
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I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
Even if its possible, I think developing an app from ground up is far more easier than trying to integrate smstools in to android. Besides, that doesn't solve my problem at all, because accessing the phone from the PC is the issue, and I don't see how running smstools on the phone is going to solve that.
HelloH said:
Or take a look at RemoteSMS or similar apps!
Also possible to remote control your handset via vnc-server. That one has far more possibilities than remote SMS-ing...
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RemoteSMS only works over Wi-Fi and BT, no 3G support .
I guess remote desktop is one solution, but I prefer a much simpler app. Besides VNC will not send me any notifications, I have to manually check. ..
Looks like I'll have to write my own app for this . Havent done any android development yet, looks like this is going to be my first project..
Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
3G might be blocked by some carriers.
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So it's means it can be used over 3G
PhoenixFx said:
IAnd I'm not in US, therefore I dont have access to Google Voice service, so replying through that is not going to work either.
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You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
brunes said:
You don't need to be in the US to get a Google Voice account or use it for SMS. I am in Canada and use it for SMS all the time.
See this link. Note that despite the title this will work for any country.
http://www.wifitalk.ca/iphone/howto-google-voice-in-canada/
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Thanks, I'll give it a try. Are SMSs free for international numbers as well ?
EDIT : I don't want to login through some unknown proxy server and give out my credentials. Besides, it is not a permanent solution. another dead end
Waiting for new ideas
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Wifi Keyboard works on 3g (yes dumb but )
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Waiting for new ideas
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Hum ..... Have you tried it ?
PhoenixFx said:
I’m coming from Windows development side, so pardon me for my ignorance on Linux dev. But from the little I know, you can't compile Unix/C code to Android, am I wrong ? At least not in a straightforward manner... You can only develop apps using their customized Java (Dalvic) , right
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Linux is a kernel, and Android is a Linux kernel based operating system. You can compile anything (that compiles for GNU/Linux for the given architecture) for Android/Linux as well. It will be native code however (as opposed to DALVIK, which is VM code). You have the option to cross-compile on your PC, or to compile code right on your phone. It is a command line affair... not some nice one-click task.
BTW I did not see in their own advert, that RemoteSMS would be limited to wifi... you sure? (Would be pretty weird move from them, since communicating over wifi and 3G is not really different from the programmer's point of view)
Found this today , posted on XDA : talkmyphone.
Exacly what I was looking for .
YAY!
Thank you! I have been looking for something like this because I am also behind a corporate firewall at work.

Galaxy Gear (null ROM) & iPhone

Hi all,
I am creating this thread so that we can investigate what can and what cannot be done with the iPhone & Gear combination.
Let me first describe my experience so far, for anyone who may be interested. So let's say you want to use the Gear with your iPhone:
First of all you need to have null ROM on the Gear (see respective thread). I have null 15.
You go to full settings and then bluetooth and make the watch discoverable.
Then you go to the iPhone and search for devices (not the other way around).
What works:
1) Basic BT handsfree functionality.
They couple OK and this is it. You have a glorified 300 euro BT handsfree in the shape of a wristwatch!
2) Internet tethering via BT.
If your iPhone carrier settings do support tethering you can also tether the Gear via BT to the iPhone. I have seen that the tethering process works but unfortunately i was in an area of no signal when i did the test (don't have an iPhone right now) so there is no hard evidence. I mean i did not see a webpage loading but i think that tethering is actually device independent. Someone please confirm.
What doesn't work:
1) Notifications (which renders the added value of the whole smartwatch concept kind of questionable)
2) An automated or even manual (but no PC/cloud involved) way to transfer photos/vids taken with the Gear camera to the iPhone.
3) Caller ID with name. I have extensively tried this with both an iPhone 4 and a 5S both on iOS7 and both not jailbroken and when a call is received i only saw the number even if the caller was in the contact list of the iPhone and the native contact list on the Gear itself.
I am searching for a solution for bullets 2 and 3, since i will swap my S4 for a 5S very soon but i do intend to keep the Gear for the time being.
Any comment/personal experience/help will be greatly appreciated.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
As of June 11, 2014 XDA member @Accounti provided the first (and only so far) solution, regarding iPhone & Gear cooperation.
Ladied and Gents, please welcome CloudNotifier Cydia tweak.
All notifications from jailbroken iPhone can be sent via Web to the Gear (and many other devices, as it is web based). It is not a direct BT connection, therefore NULL ROM is required so that BT tethering is enabled.
I would like to personally congratulate @Accounti for his work and kindly ask that relative posts are done in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784802
Please let us continue in this thread regarding the iPhone & Gear connection methods.
i tested everything all the day. I can confirm, it works, tethering it's fine, browsing, play store access, email, also I installed Whatsapp and using it.
A problem with this, after some minuts the internet connection become "on demand" so if you receive for example a whatsapp message you don't receive immediately the notification but you will receive the first time you connect to something (for example browsing a page or sending an email).
I'm searching a way to keep internet connection alive or to wake it every 15 minutes just to have live messaging with whatsapp.
I can confirm the problem with the caller Id, i think the problem it's that the iPhone does not push contacts to gear when you pair, and when a call comes the gear look not in the contacts list but in the pairing contacts, that is empty...
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Another problem, set every volume in gear to zero, only vibrating, iPhone is in silent mode to, when a call comes the Gear makes the ringtone anyway. It's a bad problem for me cause i can't use ringtone at work...
NZ, you do realize all this device needs is an app to communicate with. It is completely possible to make the Gear work with an iPhone.
Someone with some decent IOS App writing skills could make this work.
Stop filling this thread with your nonsense.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda app-developers app
@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
fOmey said:
@gidi, did you try bluetooth transfering your files to your iPhone from the Gear ?
Not sure iOS supports bluetooth file transfers, but it should work.. along with bluetooth sharing contacts I believe, I activated that service too
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@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
gidi said:
@fOmey unfortunately i do not have an iPhone right now. Maybe will have the 5S within the day and then i will test and get back to the thread.
However, BT file transfer is a no go on an iPhone that is not jailbroken. Truth is that iOS 7 is a little more relaxed compared to older iOSs but i cannot confirm anything.
With a JB iPhone it may be a totally different story, however. There is tweak called BTnotificationenabler that transfers ALL push notifications through BT.
Could you please check what the profiles that the Gear supports are? Also, could you add more profiles, just in case?
Thank you dude!
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That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
fOmey said:
That's a shame about the bluetooth transfer, although ! The bluetooth notifications is quite interesting.
What profile do you require for the bluetooth notifications ? As for adding new profiles.. I can activate additional services which have been included already, although it's kind of hit and miss if they will work ! .. If it's some weird proprietary services sadly no.
I have included majority of the useful ones already..
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fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Hi Everyone,
I did a little thread cleaning. I think that this thread is perfect for xda. Although xda usually doesn't support iPhone development, I think most of the development here will need to be done on the Galaxy Gear side. As long as people are willing to help and test ideas, I say go for it!
Thanks!
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Absolutely, the work is on the Gear side, cause iPhone already use the Pebble or the I'm Watch, so it's the Gear that is missing something. Thank you
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gidi said:
fOmey i will search a little and get back to you.
I will alsotry to get in touch with a dev who has managed to make wonders with iPhone and Pebble.
Thing is, if some basic functionality can be achieved, then the Gear market will truly expand. There are many iPhone users who would love to use the Gear.
UPDATE: It might also be worth it if you could take a look at this: http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
I have used the imwatch in the past and it can work both with iOS and Android.
Appart from the tethering function, i remember that when pairing with iPhone a special BT profile (do not remember it's name) was utilised that allowed the imwatch to download the whole iPhone contact list over BT.
Actually the Gear is all the imwatch was ever hoping to be and maybe some more!
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Good idea Man! Look into the I'm Watch firmware is good, the profile used for sms is the Message Access Profile (MAP).
No way to save contacts manually, the Gear see it as empty. Is there a possibility to modify directly the contact file?
fOmey maybe you know witch is the right file
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
gidi said:
Just talked to fOmey in the chatroom of his website.
I informed him that jb for iOS 7 is out.
Now the news: fOmey has an iPhone also and i am trying to convince him to invest/waste some time trying to make the Gear - iPhone combination work.
Told him about the BTNotificationEnabler tweak (https://github.com/conradev/BTNotificationEnabler) and the MAP profile that is being used and he said that his ROM may already be supporting it.
If there is anyone with an iPhone and a Gear who wants to see the combination really work, please post to this thread. It could provide some motivation for fOmey!
I know he can do it if he decides to spend some time working on it.
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I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
fOmey said:
I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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It's auto-enabled when you turn bt on? Because when an sms arrive nothing happens, and from iPhone side it's always turned on.
fOmey maybe you can make some test with your iPhone
Robotblog said:
I'm here baby! What i have to do? Jailbreak+btnotification+Gear with null15?
But, just a question, if the MAP profile is already in null rom, why i can't receive sms? Maybe fOmey means that the rom is ready but not with MAP already inside.
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Maybe list of profile should help. Put everything inside null please! (Lot of people could use, not only Apple owners)
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3647
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Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
gidi said:
Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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If it doesnt work already, wait for the next version of my rom.
fOmey said:
I have activated profile MCE in the current version of null_ which is a MAP profile, I have just finished activating MSE which also is a MAP profile, this will be available in the next version. So in other words all profiles in reference to MAP will be activated in the next version of null_ (16).
Take a look at this page for a better understanding.
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fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
gidi said:
fOmey my man if i got this correctly then the MSE (server side) profile should be enabled on the iPhone and the MCE (client side) should be enabled on the Gear.
However, "The MCE device shall use the services of the MSE device only after successfully creating a secure connection", which kind of concerns me.
But again, in fOmey we trust for everything Gear related.
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I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
fOmey said:
I activate both profiles in the next version.. so regardless what is requires it should be available.
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Thank you fOmey!!!
gidi said:
Dude, what iPhone do you have? Have you installed the BTNotificationEnabler tweak?
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I'll do JB in a few days on 4s but only for btnotenab, cause forma the SMS si already in ios
Any workaround for the caller id issue?
With calling id names and MAP the Gear could be the perfect device.

SWApp Link:: The Best Companion App for your Gear

Available on Google Play Store
It's an android app, will need Null Rom on the Gear
Available on Google Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.link
Beta version with more features:
https://plus.google.com/+CyrilPreiss0/posts/YrNDXdk2GLf
SWApp Link is intended for use with Smartwatches running Android OS.
Some compatible Smartwatches:
Samsung Gear 1 (with android ROM), Omate TS, AI Watch, Neptune Pine, Inwatch Z, AW-414, AW-420, Callisto 100.
Features:
Call Notifications:
 • Displays the caller’s photo.
 • Option to take the call, reject the call, or reply via SMS (composed on the watch and sent through the phone.)
 • During call: options to end the call, toggle mute, and toggle the loudspeaker.
SMS Notifications:
 • Displays the SMS text and contact photo.
 • Option to reply via SMS.
App Notifications:
 • Displays notifications, from the apps of your choice, on the watch.
 • Fully optimized notifications for specific apps (with more coming), including:
  • Email - Notifications now display the email’s content instead of just displaying “[number of] New Emails”.
  • Hangouts - Notifications now display the message content instead of just displaying “[number of] New Notification(s) from [name]”.
  • WhatsApp - Notifications now display the full message content, even within groups, including the message’s text and image.
 • Customizable notification layouts: choice of colors for the message text and the message background, option to automatically resize the message text based on its length, and more.
Full notification management:
 • Browse through all the previous notifications (SMS and app), with the option to display the most recent ones first or the oldest ones first, search through them by text, and more.
Powerful clock engine which can be set as the watch's lockscreen. Many exclusive features, including:
 • Both Analog and Digital watch faces.
 • Smooth seconds hand with dynamic shadow.
 • Unread notification indicator.
 • Battery, 3G, and Wi-Fi indicators for both the watch AND the phone (with options to display the indicators side by side, or toggle between them by tapping on them.)
 • On Screen Display (OSD) Modules including a stopwatch, timer, day timer, second time, date, next alarm info and more (the OSD is shown/hidden by tapping on the clock.)
 • Option to choose the Font Color with the color picker.
 • Choice of backgrounds.
 • Choice of date formats (Mon. 20 June / 20-06 / 06-20 ...).
 • Choice of hour formats (12H / 24H).
 • Complex animations.
Call Log Sync: Displays the phone’s call log with the option to place a call or send an SMS to anyone on it.
Remote Call: Remotely place a call to one of your contacts, favorites or recently used numbers, or dial a number to call remotely.
Remote SMS: Remotely send an SMS to one of your contacts, favorites or recently used numbers, or input a number to SMS remotely.
Remote App Launch: Remotely launch apps on the phone.
Remote Clipboard: Send content from the phone to the watch’s clipboard.
Remote Media Control: Remotely control the phone’s media player from the watch and see track info.
Find My Phone: Remotely set off the phone’s or watch’s ringer.
Remote Battery info: Displays the remote device’s battery level (with a low battery notification option.)
Remote Lock: Remotely lock the phone from the watch (in case of loss, for example.)
BT Virtual Leash: Automatically lock the phone and display a notification on the watch if the BT connection is lost.
Remote GPS Location: Display the phone’s GPS coordinates on the watch.
Megaphone: Establishes a phone call between both devices and puts the remote on speaker (establishes a communication with people near the remote device, sim watches only.)
Microphone: Establishes a phone call between both devices (enables you to hear what's happening around the remote device, sim watches only.)
Connection methods:
 Direct Bluetooth Connection
 Push Notification - Uses an Internet connection to communicate between the devices. (disabled)
 SMS - Sends and intercepts SMSs to communicate between the devices.
XDA:DevDB Information
SWApp Link Companion App, App for the Samsung Galaxy Gear
Contributors
cyrilp
Version Information
Status: Beta
Current Beta Version: 0.934
Beta Release Date: 2014-04-23
Created 2014-04-23
Last Updated 2016-01-14
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The gear with Null rom can do most those things anyway? Or am I missing something?
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This could be useful for non-touchwiz phones, I suppose.
I may give it a go just to see what it can actually do.
--wait... "need internet connection on the watch" For serious?
A little confused myself. One part says Bluetooth supported and other part acts like both devices need Internet connection as in Gear tethered which drains much more battery on the gear.
I'm not interested in the actual "Notifications" as Gear Manager does this fine for me, otherwise, the other functions listed, GPS, battery status on other device, ect.. Yes, I would be interested but still confused as to my first comment/paragraph above as to how this works.
The internet connection "requirement" is for those smartwatches that do not have working BT, like every one of the Umeox x201 based smartwatches. The internet connection is also for doing things over long distances (think miles).
It does more than just notifications. I'm running Null and have been placing calls and sending texts using the Gear and leaving my Nexus One in my pocket, or the other room, the whole time.
Lokifish Marz said:
The internet connection "requirement" is for those smartwatches that do not have working BT, like every one of the Umeox x201 based smartwatches. The internet connection is also for doing things over long distances (think miles).
It does more than just notifications. I'm running Null and have been placing calls and sending texts using the Gear and leaving my Nexus One in my pocket, or the other room, the whole time.
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Hrmmm, Interesting. I'll be having a look at this. Thanks!
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Ok have it installed on my S4. Problem. Can't get it on the Gear. In the Play Store it says not compatible with (gear) device so I can't use chrome extensions downloader either for some reason. And I'm tethered to the gear to access internet thru playstore directly and it's not listing on the gear to download???
Disregard, I got it downloading now with Chrome extensions, will transfer to gear and give it a whirl shortly.
Ok, I set everything up. Selected BT for connection on phone side's app. There is so setting for this on Gear Side's app. Entered devices names, ect... all it does is sit on phone side saying "Connecting". None of the features are doing anything.
h00rj said:
This could be useful for non-touchwiz phones, I suppose.
I may give it a go just to see what it can actually do.
--wait... "need internet connection on the watch" For serious?
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this is for using without BT connection (for smartwatches that don't have bluetooth), it's not needed for direct bt connection.
Lokifish Marz said:
The internet connection "requirement" is for those smartwatches that do not have working BT, like every one of the Umeox x201 based smartwatches. The internet connection is also for doing things over long distances (think miles).
It does more than just notifications. I'm running Null and have been placing calls and sending texts using the Gear and leaving my Nexus One in my pocket, or the other room, the whole time.
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you need to select BT on both the watch and the phone, then it will connect
cyrilp said:
you need to select BT on both the watch and the phone, then it will connect
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On the Gear, the settings did not have a place to set a connection type unlike the phone's settings with the app. It started off with email. I even tried to scroll up and down and look all over for the settings for connection on the gear and it certainly wasn't there, at least for me.
i have uploaded the apk in download section as Gear might have difficulties getting it from playstore
Lokifish Marz said:
The internet connection "requirement" is for those smartwatches that do not have working BT, like every one of the Umeox x201 based smartwatches. The internet connection is also for doing things over long distances (think miles).
It does more than just notifications. I'm running Null and have been placing calls and sending texts using the Gear and leaving my Nexus One in my pocket, or the other room, the whole time.
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Do you have the conncetion choice in your settings on the watch ? it's strange lazer9 is saying it's not there ?
cyrilp said:
Do you have the conncetion choice in your settings on the watch ? it's strange lazer9 is saying it's not there ?
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Hold the phone! Literally , lol. I just uninstalled from gear and re-installed from the one you posted here in downloads and now I have the connection settings on gear. Now to re-install on phone side and go from there. :victory:
Update: Blah, now when I either set bluetooth on Gear or Phone, I get a force close on each device.
lazer9 said:
Hold the phone! Literally , lol. I just uninstalled from gear and re-installed from the one you posted here in downloads and now I have the connection settings on gear. Now to re-install on phone side and go from there. :victory:
Update: Blah, now when I either set bluetooth on Gear or Phone, I get a force close on each device.
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i have uploaded a new version, could you try it ?
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i have uploaded a new version, could you try it ?
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WORKS! Finally able to connect to gear & phone and did a test by pressing battery icon on gear and it showed my Phone's battery level!
Super! Now to figure out what all I can do with this nifty app :highfive:
lazer9 said:
WORKS! Finally able to connect to gear & phone and did a test by pressing battery icon on gear and it showed my Phone's battery level!
Super! Now to figure out what all I can do with this nifty app :highfive:
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Great !
Strange thing going on right now. On gear I pressed Battery Icon to get the info from phone and it says uptop that it's connected to my phone but nothing is happening after "message sent" dialogue. So I opened into the App on phone side and it's sitting up top saying "connecting...." forever.
Update: Went in on phone side and "Force Closed" the app in app settings. Reloaded it and it connected right up. Must be a quirk or something...
*SWApp Link dev update 0.934d*
*BT Virtual Leash*
You watch will help you not to loose or forget your phone !!
New feature will allow to get notified if the bluetooth link is broken.
User selected delay to trigger the alert.
Hi
This looks promising but i have a few issues and questions
First of all the App keeps Force closing on the watch (i'm running NUll_23)
but i have been able to connect it for a short while and can get SMS messages and the watch vibrates but the screen does not light up
What i wondered is that i want to replace the Samsung Notification system completely as i want to see more of the notification
on the screen than just a small excerpt, especially with Gmail and Email
do you think your app be able to do that down the line
thanks
*SWApp Link dev update 0.934e*
*Auto Lock*
In virtual leash feature, you can now enable "Auto Lock" feature which will set a password on your phone if the link is broken.
It's a low level action on the phone, so you'll be asked to enable Admin rights to the app.
You will be able to enable or not the broken virtual leash notification.

[Q] Gear 2 Neo Possible internet apps with custom rom? Maybe TizenMod?

I hear the Gear S is now totally independent, built in wifi, 4g, etc... Anyways, This thing is a bluetooth device, I'm assuming it's got a built in generic bluetooth dongle and the tizen OS itself handles protocols such as a2dp for headphones, and communication thru their strange SAP protocol. (Samsung Accessory Protocol)
Is it at all possible to achieve internet access for apps with any APIs for the new Gear S? I figured my phone (actual samsung) along with other manufacturers have a Tethering option. I was hoping I could turn on my bluetooth tethering and get actual internet connectivity on the Gear 2 Neo, and start developing real web-oriented apps for the watch without some flaky form of polling using a background process on the phone itself to relay content to the gear 2 neo.
Once I heard you could code for this in as close to HTML/CSS/JavaScript as possible (there are some things that just don't translate to be as simple as it is in any browser) I was hooked, rushed out and bought one, but now I'm disappointed at my purchase realizing there is no way to achieve any content from the web without a back-end running on the phone, and I never liked java, nor do I care to learn it.
Could it be already possible just no way to reference the internet thru the js methods available in the Tizen SDK? This is a form of linux, what about possibly getting perl or node.js in there and maybe making your own interface to sockets? It'd be so awesome to actually have perl on a gear 2 neo.
found thread
I searched before posting this, couldn't find nothing, and an unrelated google search about gear 2 neo ringtones brought up a link... go figure. Anybody else looking can also see the solution I stumbled upon here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/general/guide-internet-connection-gear2-5-steps-t2956328/post57140526#post57140526
while it's not perfect, it's a giant leap in the right direction I look forward to more in this thread!

How does google home communicates with devices?

my question is that How does google home communicates with devices? Please reply I'm a newbie and got stuck here. Your help will be highly appreciable and it will mean a lot to me.
Hello Manishthakur,
1) you should specify your Q more. Why do you ask?
2) to communicate with Chromecast in your TV it uses Wi-Fi network (802.11b/g/n/ac (2.4GHz/5Ghz))
3) to stream music to other (BT) speakers it uses Bluetooth 4.1
source
Hi chrnec,
My question was how does google home communicates with compatible devices? What is the process?
Can u give an example of that compatible device? I still cant get where you heading to.
Maybe you want to know if connection is direct (local) or if cloud and internet is used?
Yes my question is to know if connection is direct (local) or if cloud and internet is used?
And if a self made product is there how we can make that device communicate with google home? this is second and last question.
Unfortunately my knowledge is not sufficient for this. Mybe someone else will help us to understand this.
But read this:
At I/O, Google rolled out a developer kit similar to what C by GE uses so more companies can enable setup in the Google Home app. This Local Home kit could also make your smart home faster. Instead of communicating with the cloud of every third-party device, the kit allows your smart speaker to store cached versions of certain commands. They can then process the command locally and communicate with the device directly over Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
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Everything You Need To Know About Google Home
Andrew Gebhart - https://www.cnet.com/how-to/everything-you-need-to-know-about-google-home/
Also you should lear smt about IFTT, if your DIY device will have web interface control page you can use IFTT to connect it with your Google Home device.

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