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A Fine OS Google... a Fine OS

Amidst all the threads with 4.2 bashing and complaining and websites calling 4.2 the worst since Honeycomb, I wanted to just say that 4.2 is the best version of the OS to date. I've been sole on Android since 2009 with the Droid release and had experience since eclair. A major gripe I've always had with Android is that regular reboots were required to keep the system running efficiently. Custom Roms were required to have good features. But Android has matured to the point of greatness.
I have a De-Odexed version of 4.2 with not one reboot in over 100 hours on my Nexus 7 and Ive been draining the battery to at least 10% each day. (I use it a lot Lol). This is something I would never have been able to do on any other version of the OS. It is fast, stable and very efficient.
Way to go Google... Can't wait for the next one

Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...

If there were a company in the market who had changed their business model from innovation to litigation,
and they had more cash than any other company on earth,
you would think they might be spending some of that cash throwing up FUD for their competitors.
No one says they have to play fair.

Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
Appreciated

HellcatDroid said:
Same here, really like and enjoy 4.2.
Of course there's a couple of bugs, esp. with new features, but that's nothing unusual and they will be fixed.
On another note: would you mind telling me how and what you used to deodex 4.2?
Wanna mess around again the ROM but the tools I got barely worked on 4.0 so can't even think of using them on 4.1 or even 4.2.... :-/
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Its the Dev section....
The system apps are deodex but not framework...

CrazyPeter said:
Don't worry, it's always the same handful of whingers. Besides them, there are millions of satisfied owners...
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Whingers you say, funnily enough in the years I've been on XDA I've not come across as many people complaining about an Android update as I have about 4.2 but if you say everyone one of these people are *whingers* then it must be true eh
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I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I just prefer 4.1.2. I just haven't been whining about it all over the forum.
The only feature that I actually used on 4.2 was the keyboard. So I downgraded back to 4.1.2 and just flashed the keyboard. And 4.1.2 performs better on my device.

wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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I love it. Chrome seems light years faster.

As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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I quite like 4.2 the only thing I would like added is a restart option on the power button. Have had some random reboots but its nothing major for me and as apps get updated they are getting less frequent.
I don't think I have ever bashed a release version in over 3 years of solely using droid os.
Cursed a few custom ROMs tho
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wpghtc said:
I love 4.2.
Screw December! Damn month had quite the ego.
Overall I am very happy. I am 100% stock and not rooted and I don't seem to be having any issues other than December being gone.
Can't wait for the next one!
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December isn't gone. Run the stock calendar app and you'll see it just fine. The place where it's AWOL is in the "People" app.
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demkantor said:
As much as I would love to give my thanks to google for this update I can not. I've been using android since cupcake and one of the biggest fans. Eleven different devices running android over the years. I am always one of the lucky ones and don't have the issues others complain about, untill now.
I've had my n7 since launch and it is the only android I never bothered to root as it was perfect from the start and I had little use for my rooted apps. After the ota I had constant hot reboots and a somewhat flawed ui (not that's a real complaint as much of that was supposed to happen) not to mention worse battery life and slower charges.
I was forced to root, and am happy I did, alrdeay running three different custom roms and pretty impresses, much more so than googles official 4.2 update
This is the first time that in my opinon the update was worse than the previous.
So I guess I like it as it finally made me root my n7!
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Did you perform a full wipe after updating to 4.2. If not it might have been some incompatible apps making your n7 do the reboots and other things. By the way do you have an 8 or 16 GB n7? I have 16, and haven't had a single problem after updating.
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I dont feel like saying thanks google because its their job. and on one side am happy on the other i wait for 4.2.1 to fix all the bugs ..so its balanced

I haven't had an issue with performance at all did a clean install from a image and been great.
The only thing that I find useless are the " quick settings" cause they are not quick making a five step process into a four step process is not quick
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Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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A full wipe doesn't help. I did one before installing 4.2. I haven't had a reboot since I uninstalled HD Widgets, but it hasn't been that long. It may not be causing the problem, but it certainly does seem to make the problem come to the forefront.

Well I have noticed that HD widgets are fine until you use a lock screen widget then all hell breaks loose.
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rmagruder said:
Brian, do you use a second multi user profile?
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no

Am I to assume that the update for three nex7 I'd totally different than the one for the gnex? I mean I know they are totally different devices but I have a stock 4.2 rom on my phone and it's fine. Battery life is way better than the cm Rom I was running and I haven't had any problems.
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Google "X" Tablet

According to this article, Google is working on an X phone to compete againist Apple and Samsung, that will be released next year. And, also is working on an X tablet with a significant marketing budget. Looks like I'll have to hold off on the nexus 10. I doubt they will keep that name but I wouldn't mind owning an X tablet.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/22/us-google-xphone-idUSBRE8BL01B20121222?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtechnologyNews+%28Reuters+Technology+News%29

And today's Making **** Up award goes to.. . Reuters!

Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Nexus 7, Samsung Nexus 10, LG Nexus 4...now, you tell me if you think this story has any substance.
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Nexus X?

"its Android mobile operating system competes with rivals such as Apple and Samsung."
Is it just me or this statement just doesn't make any sense? (The Samsung bit that is) . I'd rather see Samsung as a partner to Google / Android rather than a rival...
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cooldoud said:
"its Android mobile operating system competes with rivals such as Apple and Samsung."
Is it just me or this statement just doesn't make any sense? (The Samsung bit that is) . I'd rather see Samsung as a partner to Google / Android rather than a rival...
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Well what you rather see is fact.
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I hope they come up with 5.0 ^^
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From what I read in another article Google and Motorola are making a new X Super Phone you can check it out on the NVISION app on GPLAY it sounds great if they do I say it's about time being Google bought Moto a while back but it also said that it might not even run android something to do with the moto droid line but to me it doesn't make sense for Google not to run Android OS so who knows I guess stay tuned GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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fushla said:
I hope they come up with 5.0 ^^
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I don't care what they number it. What they need to do this time around is actually test the software before they push it out to users. The bluetooth situation in 4.2.1 is awful and google should be embarrassed of it.

gianptune said:
I don't care what they number it. What they need to do this time around is actually test the software before they push it out to users. The bluetooth situation in 4.2.1 is awful and google should be embarrassed of it.
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Yes I totally agree at least slow things down just a bit because let's be for real 4.2 hasn't been all that great starting off with but maybe the next update will be AWESOME out of the gate GOD BLESS YOU
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Less blessing, more punctuation

4.2.2 let's see if Sony keeps the promise

Like they said we would release 4.2.2 or 1 right shortly after releasing the z. Wondering what shortly means for them lol
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ajftl said:
Like they said we would release 4.2.2 or 1 right shortly after releasing the z. Wondering what shortly means for them lol
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lol 6 days lol...
Just wait for it. It's not like Sony's like Samsung where it takes three quarters of a year for an update.

alex3305 said:
lol 6 days lol...
Just wait for it. It's not like Sony's like Samsung where it takes three quarters of a year for an update.
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Lol. 6 days only. Geeez. Feels like a month already lol
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THere is not much of a leap to 4.2..My only wish is they include the screen calibration.

ethan3686 said:
THere is not much of a leap to 4.2..My only wish is they include the screen calibration.
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+1
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alex3305 said:
lol 6 days lol...
Just wait for it. It's not like Sony's like Samsung where it takes three quarters of a year for an update.
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FYI Samsung is the quickest at updating. If your phone is blended blame it on the carrier not Samsung
Swyped from another galaxy

skivnit said:
FYI Samsung is the quickest at updating. If your phone is blended blame it on the carrier not Samsung
Swyped from another galaxy
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Yep, Samsung are by far the fastest of the bunch. It's your network holding them back not Samsung.
Hope they release 4.2 soon as some of the bugs are starting to literualy bug me
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skivnit said:
FYI Samsung is the quickest at updating. If your phone is blended blame it on the carrier not Samsung
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More like "quickest at shoveling a crappy update out the door". Take any Samsung update for a major Android OS, and add at LEAST 3-6 months before it's even remotely stable.
ICS on the I9100 was an utter and total ****fest of epic proportions... It didn't stop being a ****fest until many other manufacturers started deploying ICS.

skivnit said:
FYI Samsung is the quickest at updating. If your phone is blended blame it on the carrier not Samsung
Swyped from another galaxy
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You're kidding right ? Because you can't possibly be serious...

recklesslife85 said:
Yep, Samsung are by far the fastest of the bunch. It's your network holding them back not Samsung.
Hope they release 4.2 soon as some of the bugs are starting to literualy bug me
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its always samsung according to my carrier and even Samsung Mobile Canada admit it on their face book. And they are definitely not the qickest either.

Well they are for me in the UK. LG, Sony and the rest don't come close here. Apple are the best of course.
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Explain to my then, how come the first jb rom is Polish and that was few months ago, however branded jb roms are still rolling out in a lot of countries. moreover specific apps are added to different carrier roms, why would Samsung do that?
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ethan3686 said:
THere is not much of a leap to 4.2..My only wish is they include the screen calibration.
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Miracast ? That should work via DLNA right ? Sony's mirroring doesn't !

Sony's Miracast works exactly like Google's. DLNA doesn't do live streaming, it only streams existing files.
There is almost nothing new in 4.2 for Xperia users, Sony did the most important things before Google even announced them.
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I wouldn't cry too much to get Android 4.2.1 or 4.2.2 because that bug ridden piece of junk introduces bugs of it's own, including the infamous and absolutely infuriating Wifi bug where Wifi stops working when you turn the screen off and notifications for GMAIL WHATSAPP etc stop working until you turn the screen back on.
No fix in sight for that either, it's the main reason I ditched my Nexus 4.

Ambroos said:
Sony's Miracast works exactly like Google's. DLNA doesn't do live streaming, it only streams existing files.
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Inte's WirlessDisplay is also MiraCast based right? And that works via DLNA with a 5sec delay!

Just want a more optimised version of what we've got really.
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recklesslife85 said:
Well they are for me in the UK. LG, Sony and the rest don't come close here. Apple are the best of course.
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Well of course "apple are the best". They never even let you know a new OS is coming so why would you say they are slow, right? Plus they give you features that other phones had for years then put an advertising spin on it that make you so "happy" you finally got a feature others have had for years.
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Haldi4803 said:
Inte's WirlessDisplay is also MiraCast based right? And that works via DLNA with a 5sec delay!
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Intel WiDi is something completely different, even though it is compatible with Miracast from version 3.5.

Well some apps only work with 4.2 so looking forward to get it fast.
but I don't care if sony is fast, as long we get some stable 4.2 custom roms fast

Apps (or lack of)

Are any fellow Gear users slightly disappointed by the lack of new apps appearing in the official Samsung store? Like, I'd love a Spotify app that showed the name of the track/album art etc...
I know unless I can program (which I can't), it's not going to happen. It seems the update for dev's is really slow :/

I was just thinking that today. I am less impressived now that the excitement of a new device is over
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I just got the gear 2 days ago and I expected much more from sammy. Altho I should have learned my lesson getting the note 1 opening day and I was in this very same situation, awesome new device that might as be a paper weight. The few apps there are are littered with bad reviews or they are the pointless. Sucks
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samsung store has been empty since day one. i do not expect it to change anytime soon. there is still no official SDK available to developers. we can make apps for android that will work on gear by sideloading, but we can't use all of it's features..

An SDK will not come any time soon.... Only to selected partners Sammie choose...
It is Sad but it is how it is ...
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Jeshter2000 said:
An SDK will not come any time soon.... Only to selected partners Sammie choose...
It is Sad but it is how it is ...
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I love samsung products, although hate there attitude..
SDK is the last piece of the puzzle.

fOmey said:
I love samsung products, although hate there attitude..
SDK is the last piece of the puzzle.
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Considering how powerful the hardware is, Sammy should be really pushing this with an SDK. Unless they are planning to load the gear up with missile blasting codes, they should cut the secrecy and get everyone to start developing, or hang around while iWatch or Pebble 2 or Google Watch or whatever comes and takes away the advantage.

Multitasking apps

Let's talk multitasking apps for this giant phone
Anything like note series multitasking apps?

I'm waiting for the same thing.
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Yep same here.. Wanting to know if we will ever be able to get a multi-window mod to run two apps..?
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quite a few roms had the same Samsung multi window feature running perfectly fine on the nexus 5. only a matter of time until it's incorporated here

warrenis1234 said:
quite a few roms had the same Samsung multi window feature running perfectly fine on the nexus 5. only a matter of time until it's incorporated here
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This is my first nexus phone coming from the Note 3... Miss the multitasking features Samsung incorporated into the Note series.
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yep, that's the trade off, features vs performance. but if you're comfortable with rooting and flashing Roms then you'll get the best of both worlds, in a cheaper package lol

warrenis1234 said:
yep, that's the trade off, features vs performance. but if you're comfortable with rooting and flashing Roms then you'll get the best of both worlds, in a cheaper package lol
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i agree with better performance but its no longer in a cheaper package sadly.

eqbirvin said:
i agree with better performance but its no longer in a cheaper package sadly.
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Unless u only paid 570cdn for it ??

Came from a Note 3 to this Nexus 6 and I actually miss the Note. So much hate towards Samsung for having lag but this phone isn't all that much faster as said by various users. I am however enjoying the on screen buttons though. I hated that terrible home button from the Note haha...

This work just as good if not better than split window on Samsung phones.

bonebeatz1234 said:
This work just as good if not better than split window on Samsung phones.
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On my rooted LG G2 I started to use xposed and put xfloatinghalo to get multi-window feature. I was hoping it would also work on the nexus 6, so Im waiting to see if someone can confirm it before I buy one.

Pknockle said:
On my rooted LG G2 I started to use xposed and put xfloatinghalo to get multi-window feature. I was hoping it would also work on the nexus 6, so Im waiting to see if someone can confirm it before I buy one.
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Use the app I did. Works the same and it's free

Can you add any app to it? Also if you have two apps will they evenly split the screen?
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Pknockle said:
Can you add any app to it? Also if you have two apps will they evenly split the screen?
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The paid version any app the free version somewhere between 15 apps just download it on whatever phone you got. I like it works good for my needs.