Could the highly varied battery life be a manufacturing issue? - Nexus 5 General

Just throwing this out there... I have a Nexus 5 here has pretty poor battery, mostly when it comes to the screen time. Barely getting 2 hours per charge. In fact, I called google today and they are going to replace it; more on that in a bit.
I've tried stock, CM11, CM11 w/chaos kernel, paranoid w/franco kernel - neither is better than the other.. fter seeing some people on stock + franco and other combinations getting 6-7 hours of screen time it got me thinking. Could we be seeing a set of battery manufacturing defects? Google has already changed the speaker grill and button designs [ironically, my Nexus 5 that was ordered 1 week ago came w/the smaller speaker grill and loose buttons].
However, I'm wondering if there was a bad batch of batteries out there? If I didn't get an exchange from google I was going to pop this phone open and replace the battery with a new one just to prove a point. When I spoke to google today, they thought that a 20% drop in about 30 minutes of use was excessive, which I have to agree.
Ideas? Thoughts?
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I'm repeating a post from the battery thread I just made....
[quote name="wdwms" post=51191930]I'm wondering if all the variances in battery life we are seeing could be a sign of a broader issue - a large batch of defective batteries?
opened this thread for thoughts/comments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2686119[/QUOTE]
Nope. Its the variances in usage and settings. Guaranteed.
I got 6 hours screen time plus on my Moto x....always. with no changes whatsoever, my wife gets 4 1/2. Why? 90 percent of my use was tapatalk. Mostly just text. 90 percent of her use is Facebook, mostly images....with text. Images take more power to load than text.
That primary difference in our usage patterns made a consistent hour and half screen time difference. Oh....and she makes a few calls, I barely ever had or made calls.
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Not meaning to debunk your theory....there are occasional defects....but mostly the huge differences are usage and settings.
The guys getting 6 hours plus screen time usually are running with most services off or frozen. Dim screens. Obviously not gaming much or at all. Not using location services or navigating. These things can make giant differences in battery life.
I suggest getting gsam. And doing a full discharge with it and doing some screen shots at the end. I'm betting if you think you have an issue that can be solved.....or its your particular usage patterns.
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I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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JNMM said:
I can stand to have location services off for the hour of better SOT. However I can't stand having a dim screen so auto is the way I go! I still get 41/2 to 5 hours SOT!
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I was using auto....and yeah, generally it's not to bad....now. I think 4.4.2 improved it....doesn't Jack up to full as much.
Then I saw someone mention "display brightness" app ....its awesome. A little slider always on my screen. Love it!
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I get 6 hours screen on time on the reggie. Location left on (high accuracy) and same with Google now. I think the only things I have turned off in Google now are search history and location reporting. NFC off. Auto brightness. I agree with kj its based on your usage. I really only use my phone for tapatalk or texting mainly. Some Facebook (not really too into it) emails and a liiiitle bit of gaming.. I also use custom kernels and slightly undervolt. My phone can take -25 across the board and 675mV at 300mhz. I mostly UV for heating purposes when I game. (Addicted to robot unicorn attack 2 and smash it). Also don't use any kind of tap or swipe to wake (KILLS battery on this phone). Plus I always charge with USB. I read somewhere that lithium ion batteries discharge slower if they are charged with USB as opposed to AC. That and I don't have free A/C slots in my man cave. Just a USB port to from my PlayStation to a qi wireless charger. Yes it takes a while....

your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.

Unless you heavily use GPS or voice calls, 2 hours SoT is too low. To get that you probably have a rogue processes preventing the phone from sleeping. In comparison, I've used the phone to game for over 3 hours on a charge.
Once that's out of the way and if you're still not happy with the battery life you're seeing ask yourself: what's running on my phone that I don't really need?
Every frivolous widget, forgotten service, or Google Now card is going to use some amount of battery and they add up on a limited power source.
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simms22 said:
your battery life majorly depends on tbe quality of your phone/data connection. really majorly! it can make the difference of just 2-3 sot hours if not such a great signal is around, to 5-6 hours sot if there is a great phone/data signal. and it varies greatly for everyone. also, how you personally use your phone makes a large impact. its also going to vary greatly as we al use our phones differently. and how you set up your phone and which apps you use is going to majorly affect battery. and thats going to vary greatly as well. and there are even more reasons for the large variation in battery life.
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That's a great point @simms22, don't think people factor into the equation quality of reception. In China on crappy HSPA+ with 1 bar, I'm lucky to get 3-4 SOT. In Los Angeles on an excellent LTE connection I can get 5-6 SOT. So reception adds 2 hrs of SOT in my case.

OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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kj2112 said:
OP, as I suggested. Get gsam from play store....do a full 100 to very low discharge and lets see what it shows.
Otherwise we're all just guessing.
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Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).

wdwms said:
Started that last night, installed GSAM this am... 18h on battery so far, 48 minutes of screen time; i'm at 78%; Wifi has been on the whole time.. Stock build, rooted/bootloader unlocked; 2 gmail accounts, 1 exchange account (30 minute syncs).
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Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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kj2112 said:
Do a few screenshots when your battery is fairly low. Don't reboot or gsam resets.
For screens, try main gsam screen, app screen...then click the app screen dropdown, and do time held awake and kernel wakelocks. If you're not rooted, not sure which of these won't work.
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My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?

wdwms said:
My son played some games on the phone and i had to use the phone for work, so i need to restart the test.
Right now i'm at 1d 17h 40m, screentime 3h 28m; GPS off, google now off, hotword off, bluetooth off, wifi on, LTE.
Regardless, in gsam, the time held awake is
System 33s
Battery Monitor Widge Pro 29s
Google Play 18s
Android System 15s
Kernal Wakelogs
"no apps that have consumed the specified...."
I'm going to let the battery run out (at 6% right now); I've disabled wakelock for google play store in App ops; charge it up and then let it run w/out Wifi, and leave it on 3G.. My location is on the edge of LTE so its best to leave it on 3G here
Will post screenshots of that test when completed in the next 24-48hrs
Thoughts?
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We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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kj2112 said:
We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.

kj2112 said:
We can look at the screen shots still....but 1day 17hours with 3 and a half hours screen time? That sound pretty darn good to me! LOL
Guys getting 5 hours of screen time and that are usually near 24 hours, it much less. At a day and 17 hours....and that screen time, I'm doubting you have an issue at all.
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Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)

rajneeshk said:
Please refer this. Hopefully battery issues will be fixed.
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I just said in another post about this.....I hope the "fix" doesn't end up messing up my current amazing battery life. LOL.
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wdwms said:
Let me run a long discharge over the next day or so, and see where I stand.. i'm going to leave WiFi off, and 3G on (no LTE)
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Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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bblzd said:
Keep in mind 3g uses the most battery for your internet condition. WiFi and LTE are more efficient though your low signal on LTE wouldn't help.
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That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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housry23 said:
That is false. 3g uses less than LTE. Why do you think the Moto G gets such great battery life? LTE is a battery hog. WiFi uses the least power of the 3. Unless your 3g signal is very weak, it will conserve battery life over LTE.
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It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
Moto G battery life is mainly due to its considerably less powerful specifications.
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bblzd said:
It has been confirmed by users on XDA as well as this test.
http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
N5 LTE is more efficient than previous LTE phones due to some Qualcomm tech. Also by being considerably faster than 3G it can finish its task and go idle quicker.
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I stand corrected. I will do my own test using only 3g tomorrow night. Thanks for the info.
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Battery woes.....

So I love my bionic, I really have missed android in general. I came from a ip4 that could go 2 days without worrying about anything. I could stream pandora for 5 hrs at work and still not charge until the next night. The iPhone could last about 2 days with me actually using my phone, not worrying about the brightness or wifi or syncing. It's the third day with the bionic and I took my phone off the charger at 0720 this morning. It sat on my desk for 30 mins then I went three times on words with friends. It has now been off the charger for exactly one hour and 10 mins and it is down ten percent. Should I return this phone or give it a couple more days? I am using juice defender and not rooted.
i would check to see how often your email is syncing. is wifi, bluetooth, and gps off? also go to settings-locations&security and uncheck the location services and share picture location. turn your screen time out down to about 30 seconds. i was on mine for a good 7 hours of browsing and youtube with some pandora and google music miixed in
yesterday and it dropped to 40%.
OR
go buy the extended battery from verizon. It is on sale for $24.99. It only shows up that price after you buy it at the register or put it in your cart online. The sales associates will quote you $49.99 but it will drop i promise you.
I need the phone to at least last 20 hrs with moderate use. How bad is the ext battery?
Plus mine already has all those settings that way
i dont know how the life is yet. however considering it is double the capacity im sure it should be pretty kick ass. 20 hours seems like alot to me with moderate usage for any 4.3 inch screened smartphone. especially one with 4g. I wont have 4g coverage till i get home on monday so im stuck on 3g. i would consider myself a heavy user though considering i tether to my xoom.
You sleep 4 hours a day? All kidding aside 20 hours isn't realistic if you're looking to get that consistently.
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I work nights at a hospital. I am looking for the day of work and a entire shift without charging. My ip4 had no problem.
forsaken82 said:
i would check to see how often your email is syncing. is wifi, bluetooth, and gps off? also go to settings-locations&security and uncheck the location services and share picture location. turn your screen time out down to about 30 seconds. i was on mine for a good 7 hours of browsing and youtube with some pandora and google music miixed in
yesterday and it dropped to 40%.
OR
go buy the extended battery from verizon. It is on sale for $24.99. It only shows up that price after you buy it at the register or put it in your cart online. The sales associates will quote you $49.99 but it will drop i promise you.
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How are you getting it @$24.99? Even after I add it to my cart it shows at $37.
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How are you getting it @$24.99? Even after I add it to my cart it shows at $37.
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Go to VZW store and buy one. It's 1/2 off.
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I have the extended battery, but it seems a bit short on power... It will charge to 100% overnight (about 7 hours), but will still drop pretty consistently on moderate usage. Anyone have any ideas on how to get the battery to reach its full potential?
im at 6 hours and sitting at 90%
If you work in a hospital, put your phone on Wifi, it uses far less juice, switching from 3g to 4g and back can kill your battery.
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I have the extended battery, but it seems a bit short on power... It will charge to 100% overnight (about 7 hours), but will still drop pretty consistently on moderate usage. Anyone have any ideas on how to get the battery to reach its full potential?
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I noticed that too. My stock sensation would last longer.
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How often r u using your phone? Im at 70% with moderate/ heavy usage and its been about 5hrs. That's in 3/4g mixed. With juice defender. Battery life seems better today.
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So, have you conditioned the battery? Sure, people will say you don't need to and I can see how "letting your batt run down to 0 then doing a full recharge" x 2 or 3 times will waste so much of your time. Don't do it then and you can keep complaining.
I laugh at folks that totally disregard this tip as if it were requiring you to disassemble phone or something.
I've done a complete drain down/full recharge twice so far ... 8 hours of "new phone setup and play time" and I just dropped to 70% (which is probably 75% with Motos stupid 10% batt gradient).
Gettin 4hrs with moderate/heavy use on 4g network. Not impressed
Screen brightness turn down all theway. Wifi off..gps off
2nd charge of day already.
Well to be fair, word with friends for some reason absolutely kills your battery. Remember when I used to play it my battery would drop 10-20% at a time.
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Remember also that Moto phones only show battery life every 10% (until you hit 15%) so if you phone reads 90%, it may in fact be 94 or 95%. It rounds itself.
The extended is the way to go....got 8 hrs with it showing 70%....that's with nothing set to conserve....and streaming Pandora Bluetooth about half that time..
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Why can't the stock battery last as long as ip4, that's what I dont get. It sucks, I really like this phone but the battery is killing me. I will say that this phone has the best battery life of all the LTE phones.

Cell standby and phone idle eating 80a of my battery

So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
I have the extended battery and get about 12 hours of heavy video and streaming audio, web browsing, maps, E-Mail, texts & calls. This is split about 50/50 4G & WiFi. I have no idea how you're only getting 5 hours. That almost seams impossible to me. Like the above post says, maybe you have an app that isn't shutting down? I am not sure but something is DEFINITELY not normal
But if it was an app behaving badly shouldn't it show up on the battery usage log thing? I'm gonna wipe when my shift ends at 8 am and see how it lasts today with only Go SMS installed. If it is dead in a few hours again I know for sure its the phone or battery. If it lasts then I get to start the painful proccess of adding apps back one at a time until I find the culprit.
Thanks for the advice. 5 hours seems impossible to me too, but that is all it lasts. Freaking me out that it is eating so much. Maybe ill try the stock battery later. Maybe its just the battery that is FUBAR'd
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Legato Bluesummers said:
So with my Droid x I could look at my battery usage and routinely see that powering the screen took between 80%-92% daily of my battery life. Big screen...made sense. 30% larger extended battery would last me 10 hours with moderate use
With the bionic, according to my battery usage. Cell standby takes 40% of my battery and phones idle takes 37%. Display only uses 6%. What the hell? So that's why my 2880mAh battery only lasts me 5 hours, with little to no usage for 4 of them. If i turn on wifi, the 3g icon stays (turned off 4g altogether since I only use data at work and it out of 4g range). And I will see it actively syncing many times even when I am doing nothing. Going into airplane more and back live again just makes it pause, starts syncing again immediately. Reboot and its fine for 3 hours then starts again.
What the hell? Do I have a dud? Should I do a wipe of the device a few times and hope it is a software glitch? Cause this is pissing me off that a brick extended battery won't even last me six hours. And I'm barely using it for 4 to 5 of them. Should I return it and exchange for another? Or return it and just get an incredible HD when they launch? Though that will probably have equally bad battery life. I am rooted and everything is backed up so a wipe won't take long to restore.
Also has been doing this since I got it 4 days ago. Have fully drained and fully charged the battery numerous time with no real change.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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You ran the Blockbuster app, didn't you?
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Never. LoL I don't run bloatware.
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Those with "bad" radios will obviously have a bad radio if their battery life is crap correct? My Bionic seems to do ok with battery life, but I still can't manage to get what all these other users are getting with the stock battery.
Maybe I'm a heavy user that's in denial of being a "light" user...
My battery life with the extended battery is amazing.
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Immolate said:
I've read an article or two speculating about the possibility of a batch of Bionics with bad radios that chew up battery. Everyone I've read about that returned their Bionic for this reason has experienced a reversal in their battery experience. Sounds like you should do this as well.
Like the others, mine is like the energizer bunny until I start messing with games and streaming video.
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I am having the same problem. I am going to give them a call on Monday.
Fixed it. Ran the bootstrap app to get into clockwork. Did a factory reset a few times over to make sure it was all clear. Loaded only the bare apps I needed onto phone and battery went from 7am Sunday morning til 10pm and only lost 50%. XD so it was definitely an app playing badly.
I put almost all my 180 some odd apps back on with titanium. But any that do any kind of syncing I downloaded freshly and didn't transfer any data, started brand new there too. So far today unplugged phone at 2am at work, its almost ten now and its only fallen to 50%. Granted I have far more stuff installed now and wwas using it a bit at work. Not too bad. Want to see how much longer it will go
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How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
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How long should the standard battery last with average use?
I unplugged at 6AM with full charge. Ran only 3G until 10:30am and was at 50%. My usage was nominal- few texts, no phone, few emails, about 10 minutes of internet, 30 minutes of Sirius.
At 10:30am I switched to 4G just to test the battery life. The phone mostly sat idle, but the remaining 50% drained in about 1.5 hours.
Does 4G really use that much power... even when the device is sitting idle? If so, then what's the point of making such great 4G devices if the batteries can't keep up?
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damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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ROB281 said:
damn, that's fast
with a regular battery, and going in, and out of 4g coverage mine will run from 8am to 11pm and still be over 50 percent, of course that's with light to moderate use
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Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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What is the definition of "light to moderate" use?
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roughly 20 texts, 5-10 calls, maybe an hour of Facebook throughout the day, a couple hours of web surfing, and maybe an hour of gaming
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471405 said:
Were you getting that battery life from day 1? Today is day 4 with my Bionic. People say it can take up to a week for your phone/battery to calibrate, but I've never had to calibrate the battery on other phones.
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can't say for sure but I know my battery was lasting a hell of a lot longer than 5-6 hours from day 1
I have the extended battery. I get great battery life when playing games, streaming video, listening to pandora, web surfing and phone calls. I am in a 3g area only. But when it comes to just idle time it seems like its using almost twice the amount of battery life as my droid x did. My droid x with the extended battery would drop 10 to 20% while idle from 11:30 pm to 7:30am. My bionic last night, I went to bed at 11:30pm and had 80% with extended battery, I woke up at 7:30am and was at 40%???
Does that sound right?? Also when using wifi the battery drops faster, should it use more battery on wifi or 3g? I have never used any bloatware and have the same apps installed as my droid x.
I'm having the same problem with my phone. 5.5 hours of battery with little to no use. i have to keep my phone on a charger throughout the day.... a power charger. the phone will die if just connected via usb.
Have you guys calibrated the new battery? There is also a neat little calibration trick in the x2 forums, works like a charm.
Google "juhde battery" and it should show up. Can't recommend it enough...
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snowblind64 said:
Well first of all the display on the Bionic is RGBW pentile which uses much less power than traditional RGB LCD's. So it makes sense that as the percentage of power consumed by the battery decreases the other things like cell standby and phone idle would increase. It has to total 100%.
That said if you only get 5 hours on an extended battery with light use then your phone is defective or possibly a third-party app you installed is misbehaving.
I am at nearly 15 hours with 40% left on a standard battery with 4G on and 1.5 hours of screen on. All I did was root and de-bloat (around 30 apps).
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Can you please post your battery usage statistics for Voice calls and Cell standby?
I'm interested to see where I stand also..
Thanks,

Moto X 2013 Battery Problems

I am using a Moto X 2013 Dev Edition on T-Mobile, this particular unit I got from Moto Care after my initial one broke. It feels like it gets much worse battery life than the first. I did not unlock or root this one yet. I'm on the latest update with pretty good LTE/4G coverage and the phone completely discharges from full to 5% in less than 4.5 hours while only browsing! It then recharges from 5% to 87% in less than 1.5 hours, this seems unusually fast and led me to believe that the battery is faulty. What do you think?
Check what is using battery the most. You can check it in battery settings. Moreover I would encourage you to install one of the apps like Better Battery Stats (you need root) or Gsam Battery Monitor to see which app prevents your phone from going to sleep.
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Um... Your screen was on that whole time mostly.
That's your issue. ?
Yes I know it was, I was browsing for 4.5 hours XD
But I feel that's a short time for the phone to completely discharge.
I felt like my first Moto X retail unit did much better, maybe this one is refurbished and the battery is worn already?
Thoughts?
PsychoKilla666 said:
Yes I know it was, I was browsing for 4.5 hours XD
But I feel that's a short time for the phone to completely discharge.
I felt like my first Moto X retail unit did much better, maybe this one is refurbished and the battery is worn already?
Thoughts?
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Have you tried to fully discharge and recharge it while turned off?
I did this and now my Battery is nice again! About 24 hours with about 3 hours SOT! Wifi + Location always on, 1 hour of recording (so not Deep sleep), 4G and a little Spotify streaming via Network!
ahhh and i deinstalled Switch Widget Pro and some other Apps because they kept my X from sleeping! :good:
Good luck!
I say 4,5 hours of screen on time while surfing is great for the x, i don't see the problem here

Battery Life

So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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Gonna need more info than that. You talking screen on time? or total? under what settings? full screen brightness?
Yeah screen on time with auto screen brightness. Pretty much on LTE all day. Only disabled bloat apps.
Full day with it, unplugged at 3am and at 8:38pm cst, I am still at 48%. Now I don't use facebook or Tweeter so that helps my battery life. Wifi at work weak and slow so I am on LTE most of the time.
Ian B
Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
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Root doesn't mean better battery life. My nexus 5 had about the same battery and got about the same battery life as my s6. And that's rooted, stock, slimrom, and cataclysm. My G3 has about 500 more mAh than the s6 and I get about 5 hours of screen time. Stock battery was better than cyanogen battery.
It's not 2012 anymore. Root is almost obsolete. It's good for app removal, rooted app functionality, and customization. Even if underclocked and undervolted it doesn't change dramatically. If u want a better battery, buy a phone with a bigger battery. MOST people don't look at their phone for 25% of their awake hours (if avg sleep is 8 hrs.) The s6 will give u 3.5-4hrs of screen time on 14-15 hours of use. That is plenty for MOST users
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Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here!
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We badly need root. Rooting my phone has always improved the battery life and performance of your phone.
Battery life today was better I think. Screen-on time didn't even show up in the battery usage list, so i'm not sure how much it used. 20.5hrs since unplugging with 14% left.
This will definitely be a phone I'll have to get rid of after a year. With constant charging and a sealed battery, this device really doesn't have a long life. That's my main concern.
Someone in another thread turned off Enhanced LTE (Voice over LTE) under network settings and saw a much better battery life (or lack of drain).
I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
oxeneers said:
I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
Pure+ said:
Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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freebee269 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yfqsTbo3GY
dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
iceman4357 said:
I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated mine plus turned off Wi-Fi and the hotspots setting in advanced Wi-Fi and battery life has improved. I still see screen as being one of the lowest factors for battery consumption. Our gs6 must have a very battery efficient display. Android os is now my top battery drain. I'm hoping an update to android 5.1 improves the system battery usage. I know it did on my nexus 6.
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if you heavily use it well.. thats pretty normal.. mine can last a day if i don't use it for browsing just sms.. but for calling it would mean smaller life
brushrop03 said:
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I can vouch for this myself. I was getting pretty bad drain to the point where I was about to return the phone.
The cache wipe seemed to work wonders. Along with deleting and reinstalling google play services (I searched google play services in chrome, clicked the link and jninstalled reinstalled uodates , then did cache wipe)
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Battery life seems great to me.

S6 Active battery life comparison

Picked up a new S6 Active which, while having a 40% larger battery, Samsung lists as only having a 10-20% better battery life (http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G890AZWAATT vs http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G920AZDAATT). Having a g920f (international s6) handy, and wanting to do a real-world comparison, I immediately disabled the AT&T bloat, and set up both devices exactly the same (except for the S6 having root) including all the same applications, 3 different Exchange accounts, and Tasker running the same profiles. I tried using the devices exactly the same - one on top of the other on a table, doing all the same tasks. Primarily checking email, surfing the web, and watching YouTube, here's what I found:
After 24 hours of use, and 4.5 hours of SOT, the S6 was down to 4% battery. The Active, on the other hand, was still at 24%. The estimates in the Battery settings shows the S6 having another hour remaining, while the Active was predicting another 5.5 hours of use. Both phones did well, but the Active does appear to be holding out only about 15% longer (just like the Samsung website predicted).
So where is the rest of that extra battery going? The internals are supposed to be the same. Same software. With the 40% improvement in battery capacity, I was expecting the Active to show similar improvements in battery life, but it did not. Maybe it has to do with the phone not being conditioned by having been through several charge cycles (keep in mind this was straight out of the box after first full charge). Or maybe the AT&T firmware has more crap running in the background (which we might be able to eventually disable once we have root).
Anyways, I'm not here to recommend one over the other as they both have their pros and cons, but merely to share my findings...
Unfortunately I don't have a S6 to compare my Active to. I am very happy with the Active battery performance so far. I'm coming up on 2 days on a single charge under normal use conditions with 40% battery remaining. I'm still on my initial first full charge of the battery as well. I'm sure GSMArena will have battery numbers up as well. For me, I held off getting the standard S6 hoping the Active had a larger and removable battery. At least it is bigger and I'm happy with my purchase.
Thats pretty good actually.. I got an att s6 and i can barely make it to 3 hours SOT thats with greenify and root! (maybe because you got the international s6 thats why the battery life is better-no att bloat)
Now I'm seriously thinking of exchanging my s6 for the active...
Im sure the active will get better with a few charging cycles. And ppl are reporting more than a day of battery life with ease so thats a pretty big difference
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I just picked up the active, switching from an iphone 6 plus, and love it so far. im at 50% after quite heavy usage for a good 7 hours.
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I just picked up the active, switching from an iphone 6 plus, and love it so far. im at 50% after quite heavy usage for a good 7 hours.
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That's pretty good! My S6 usually drops to 55-60% after 4 hours of podcasts and light web browsing. I don't mind though because I always charge the phone on my lunch break anyway. Though the longer battery life would be great if I am away from any power source. Hmmm, I'm starting to consider the Active.
Generally after a typical days use, my S6 would be around 20-30%. My active is around 50-60%.
holtenc said:
Generally after a typical days use, my S6 would be around 20-30%. My active is around 50-60%.
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That's a HUGE difference
Here is my second complete charge cycle since Friday. Did not screenshot the first one, but it was over a day. I've noticed it's learning the battery better. Takes about an hour and a half right now to recharge w/o booting up the phone.
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Here is my second complete charge cycle since Friday. Did not screenshot the first one, but it was over a day. I've noticed it's learning the battery better. Takes about an hour and a half right now to recharge w/o booting up the phone.
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What was your on screen time?
crap, did not catch that. Sorry :-\
Only 10-20% more with 1000mah extra is odd
Battery test...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Gala...fe-test-shows-how-far-can-3500-mAh-go_id70492
It's way more than 10-20%. I've had them both and both set up exactly the same. I'd say it's at least 50% more battery life for me with the active.
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There's a guy on Android Central that got 10hr SOT; pretty amazing.:good:
Almost hit the two day mark today.
At 3 days 10 hours, with 24% left. I consider myself a "light user". Occasional phone calls, text messages, check facebook a few times a day, youtube here or there, etc. I have NFC and GPS off. Bluetooth always on and WiFi set to turn off (use most data) when not in use. Disabled all the ATT/Microsoft apps except I left Milk Audio enabled. Also changed some sync settings and only sync Google App data, Mail, and Contacts. Not running any battery management apps.
ETA: I just installed greenify to hibernate Facebook and Messenger.
That's amazing. Anything else you can think of, let us know. I have done most of that. A lot of my battery drainage seems to come from MightyText; but I use its services and I am not sure how to make it better. Getting two days battery life is pretty sweet though, so I am not complaining much.
I haven't played with the standard S6, but this is my battery on it's first charge. Disabled about 32 apps that I deemed bloatware.
LTE 100% of the time. No WiFi.
Ascertion said:
I haven't played with the standard S6, but this is my battery on it's first charge. Disabled about 32 apps that I deemed bloatware.
LTE 100% of the time. No WiFi.
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Wow!

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