Omni ROM NO Samsung Hub - General Omni Discussion

I recently installed the Omni 4.4.2 20140306-tolte-NIGHTLY on my Tmo GN2 because I need the Bluetooth tethering option. However, I need Samsung Hub so I can install gear manager on my phone. I tried installing the apk file with no success. Can someone please help?
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I'd bet this is yet another case of Samsung designing software to break on anything than their own firmware.

Most likely. I've read that as long as I have a deodexed international custom ROM, I can make it work. The international ROM gives me the Bluetooth tethering option I need and a deidexed version skies me to install Samsung apps.
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Skripka said:
I'd bet this is yet another case of Samsung designing software to break on anything than their own firmware.
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The whole point of many people working on projects such as Cyanogenmod and Omni on Samsung devices is to remove all of Samsung's bloatcrap.
In the case of Gear - Why would anyone purchase it when there are cheaper and better options that are fully compatible with all Android devices instead of Samsung's restricted bull****?
It's utterly stupid that the Gear, which (given all of its onboard processing resources) should be able to operate in a more standalone fashion than any of the other smartwatches out there is, instead, the MOST dependent on its host device!

I appreciate the feedback. When I purchased the Galaxy Gear, I guess I assumed I could make it do what I wanted to do since we all pretty much have those capabilities when it comes to rooting and third party custom ROMs. I'm sure there is another way, a back door, if you will to get through installing gear manager. My first thought was to find the APK file and install it that way, but the procedures I've tried doesn't seem to work. If there isn't a way yet, then this is something for the techies to try and sort out.
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I think I might've found it, but I can't verify because I don't have my gear with me, but I searched aptoide, found gear manager and installed it to my phone. I'll reply later if this works with my device.
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No luck. Back to square one. The application downloaded and installed and even paired to my device, but nothing else showed up on my gear.
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Rooting my gear tonight... Question

I was told if I root my gear I can use bluetooth tether and essentially run apps on my gear. The apps I'm looking to run are for my car alarm and ingress. So what I was wondering is what I was told true? And do I just have to root my gear or does my phone have to be rooted as well? Because right now I have the Note 3 completely stock and unrooted.
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Markor13 said:
I was told if I root my gear I can use bluetooth tether and essentially run apps on my gear. The apps I'm looking to run are for my car alarm and ingress. So what I was wondering is what I was told true? And do I just have to root my gear or does my phone have to be rooted as well? Because right now I have the Note 3 completely stock and unrooted.
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You dont need to root your gear in order to run custom apps, depending on what type of app it is tho they may or may not work..
I would read up on side loading applications first, test the waters out.. the apps you require may work straight out of the box by simply side loading them to your gear with out rooting.
Alternatively if you find the apps dont work, you can try loading my rom which includes a few library's, unlocked features & other various functions that some apps require in order to run correctly.
EDIT: Here is a simple guide on how to sideload applications: HERE
fOmey said:
You dont need to root your gear in order to run custom apps, depending on what type of app it is tho they may or may not work..
I would read up on side loading applications first, test the waters out.. the apps you require may work straight out of the box by simply side loading them to your gear with out rooting.
Alternatively if you find the apps dont work, you can try loading my rom which includes a few library's, unlocked features & other various functions that some apps require in order to run correctly.
EDIT: Here is a simple guide on how to sideload applications: HERE
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Thank you bro! Very helpful
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Awesome thank you! I'll have to read up on how you sideload apps. I saw a YouTube video where guy was actually playing ingress on his watch, what was on his phone screen transferred to watch screen same for his car alarm app, he just didn't say if it was rooted or not I just figured it was lol. Sorry had to edit my post. I do think you probably needs to be rooted to run something like ingress since it's an online game and the gear can't run anything online like a game or Facebook so I guess maybe that's why it has to be rooted and use a Bluetooth transfer lol I'm a very big newbie when it comes to the gear.
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Markor13 said:
Awesome thank you! I'll have to read up on how you sideload apps. I saw a YouTube video where guy was actually playing ingress on his watch, what was on his phone screen transferred to watch screen same for his car alarm app, he just didn't say if it was rooted or not I just figured it was lol. Sorry had to edit my post. I do think you probably needs to be rooted to run something like ingress since it's an online game and the gear can't run anything online like a game or Facebook so I guess maybe that's why it has to be rooted and use a Bluetooth transfer lol I'm a very big newbie when it comes to the gear.
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Tell me about it dude lol
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Bluetooth tethering is the easiest way. If you root your watch you can actually install play store and download as if it's a tablet tethered. Some apps may need to be wifi spoofed with is a xposed module included in null.
Keep in mind your phone needs to be running an international rom. I had to get rid of my T-Mobile rom for an international to enable Bluetooth tethering. Wasn't the watch holding me back, rather the phone itself
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Bluetooth tethering is the easiest way. If you root your watch you can actually install play store and download as if it's a tablet tethered. Some apps may need to be wifi spoofed with is a xposed module included in null.
Keep in mind your phone needs to be running an international rom. I had to get rid of my T-Mobile rom for an international to enable Bluetooth tethering. Wasn't the watch holding me back, rather the phone itself
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Damn thanks for telling me about the rom!
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HOw well does null work with CM11

Hey, I was interested in buying the galaxy gear. Only problem is, I own a note 2 with cyanogenmod11-20131123. Anyway, I googled and found out that I can in fact use the watch with the null rom.
I did find out that I can install apps from the play store. But before I went along and bought it, I wanted to know if anyone had any personal experience with cm11 and the watch. Specifically with the functionality of the hangouts (SMS), whatsapp and the phone app. Any warning I should know about before I buy it?
You'd be best to read the threads here. Null makes no difference to stock in regards to compatibility with non touchwiz roms.
You can however get a fair bit to work with some workarounds
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My Sony Z Ultra with GPE KITKAT 4.4.2 & Samsung gear watch

Ok so it seems to be working same as the nexus but still have a few problems to iron out if anyone can help out with a similar setup I would appreciate it.The pictures from the watch do not transfer to the phone not sure why pedometer don't work so uninstalled it and the usual voice and weather apps.I hope we can get all bits working I made this thread pacific for z ultra owners of the GPE rom and gear watch setup hope we can fix things here thank you in advance.
Not going to happen unless you can figure out what parts of touchwiz are required, and then port it
(Or maybe sdk if it is ever released)
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Brendo said:
Not going to happen unless you can figure out what parts of touchwiz are required, and then port it
(Or maybe sdk if it is ever released)
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To be honest I can live without the voice and weather my calls and notifications work and a load of other stuff very happy that it's even working and that samsung deprived us of being able to use other devices with their gear watch.
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To be honest I can live without the voice and weather my calls and notifications work and a load of other stuff very happy that it's even working and that samsung deprived us of being able to use other devices with their gear watch.
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Yep, I felt the same with my nexus 5, but then went back to my s4 for full compatibility
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Gear 2 apps on gear 1 (Tizen)

Hello, just wanted to share that I had a friend send me a gear2 app (.wgt) file that was not in the Samsung app store available for the gear1. I installed the app on my gear one via PC CMD - non rooted and the gear2 app works perfectly on my gear1, I have done this with 2 apps already! I don't understand why Samsung limits gear1 apps that will work just fine.. Is there a website where I can download more gear 2 apps (.wgt)? I searched online and found a few direct downloads to side load. Just looking for more... Thanks!
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I know why, it's a marketing strategy to make more money, to get us to buy the newer one. Smh.
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OK so I figured something else out now by researching this forum. I changed my build prop to a galaxy S5 now I see tons of apps!
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please share
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Hello, just wanted to share that I had a friend send me a gear2 app (.wgt) file that was not in the Samsung app store available for the gear1. I installed the app on my gear one via PC CMD - non rooted and the gear2 app works perfectly on my gear1, I have done this with 2 apps already! I don't understand why Samsung limits gear1 apps that will work just fine.. Is there a website where I can download more gear 2 apps (.wgt)? I searched online and found a few direct downloads to side load. Just looking for more... Thanks!
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How did you do it? I Have the gear 1 running Tizen apps, there are not many apps, please share how you got more apps, [email protected]. thanks
I installed [ROM][I9505][XXUGNG4] Samy Deluxe S5 Style Operation Ivy and all of a sudden got a ton of apps for the Galaxy Gear Tizen in the store.
Don't know what has changed, but there's loads of apps. So something in the phone tells the store what apps to show... Anyone have a real S5 with a Gear and loads of apps?
Btw, if you install that rom on an S4 you need to fiddle a bit to get S Health to sync. Not sure what I did, but it worked. Installed Fitness with Gear, removed goprovider.apk and updated Gear Manager again with Galaxy Apps and it worked... Anyway
What probably changed is your build prop. A common way of getting more apps is spoofing the model number of an s5.
So long as your rooted you won't need to flash anything.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2810782
Tizen Apps - Phone Models thread gives some details, instructions for altering build prop can be readily found using Google.
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I had the build prop changed before aswell, but I have more apps now then they show in their screenshots with this rom.
The screen shots in that thread are quite old now, lots more apps have been added since and they come in too fast to keep the screen shots updated.
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The screen shots in that thread are quite old now, lots more apps have been added since and they come in too fast to keep the screen shots updated.
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Anyone kind enough to let me know what new apps are available on the fitness section? I had to downgrade to Android in order to use Runtastic on my gear 1 + Note 3 combo. Might consider rooting if it's now available on gear 1 Tizen..
thanks!

Gear Manager UI Changes

Check out these 2 screen shots. Some days I have one version and the other days the next. Does anyone have any idea why it changes?
Thanks.
The second one looks like its for Gear S.
But why does it change on it's own?
Gear Manager Changed Again!
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But why does it change on it's own?
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Every couple of days it changes. It did it again over the weekend. Very Strange.
I've noticed the same oddity of the very useful transfer buttons coming up only initially, then quickly going away. Even when they were there, the transfer to gear failed.
I really am looking towards android wear now, Samsung isn't keeping up with a unified experience using only Samsung devices...
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I've had to revert back to Android after not getting notifications on my Gear. I'm looking into getting the Gear S if this keeps up and hope whatever app market Samsung uses has the Gmail app.
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