Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
coolmalayalee said:
Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
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Yes, the D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact should work withT-mobile.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos Tmobile Z3 Unboxing​
so pretty much like the Z1 (C6903 variant that did all USA 4G/LTE and 3G)!
drago10029 said:
I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos l​
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
drago10029 said:
You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
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That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
se1000 said:
That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
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Well, if you have a better answer than by all means you can answer his question. I was just taking a stab at it based off of good assumptions.
I don't believe T-Mobile is getting the compact version, check this http://developer.sonymobile.com/tag/d5833/ and notice the tags at the bottom, no mention of a D5816 which should be the model of the compact TMO version, if there was one, based on D6616 being the standard size version.
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
In order to work on T-Mobile's network, the device must support one of the following frequencies:
850 MHz (2G)
1900 MHz (2G or 3G / 4G depending on location)
1700/2100 MHz (3G / 4G or LTE depending on location)
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See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
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So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
Nuckin said:
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
Firov said:
I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
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Thank you for not only the answer but explanation, have a :good:
Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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I have a Z3C coming for use on T-Mo in the states (going from GS3 as well). I almost didn't get it because of the lack of compatibility with LTE Band 12, but then I saw where the Band 12 coverage will actually be. Frankly, it doesn't cover my area, so I decided since it is compatible with all the other LTE Bands to go for it.
There is a great map at TMoNews that shows you just where the Band 12 coverage will be, but I can't post links yet.
I cant wait. My z3c will be here tomorrow... thanks for all the info.
Hi,
I was wondering which of the two Z3 Compact models would be provide the most coverage with the current LTE and future ones in Australia?
With the Z1 Compact there was 2 models released one for china only without LTE (M51w) and the other for rest of the world D5503.
With the Z3 Compact there is the D5803 which provides the same support as the D5503 but I also see the D5833 listed. This looks to provide more coverage in Australia with band 28 (Telstra and Optus) and 40 (TD LTE 40 - Optus)? For the best coverage should I try and get the D5833? I have only seen the D5803 listed for pre-order. I guess the D5803 would also provide support in the US (and international travel) where-as D5833 wouldn't but would support China.
I know that the Z4 or Z5 compact will replace this in 6 or 12 months but since I tend to replace my phone every 2 to 3 years so I'm trying to future proof myself as much as possible. Thanks.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
the second one mate, with BAND 28 LTE
Hello, tell someone how to make that lg g flex d959 worked in Russian 3g and 4g networks can install the firmware from the other versions of this smartphone? I want more fm radio and television to display if the technology is supported by Russia.
It all depends on which bands are Russia telecomms providers.
Alex_XV6700 said:
It all depends on which bands are Russia telecomms providers.
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In the sense you mean it with another rosskiyskim operator can work ? I checked all operators.
Like for example LG G Flex tmo bands are
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - D959 (3G+)
LTE: /1900/2100/TD2600 MHz (Band 25, 26, 41)
These are the bands available in Tmos Modem
If these are compatible with your carreer you should check.
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In the sense you mean it with another rosskiyskim operator can work ? I checked all operators.
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For the period June 2013 for LTE operator Megafon LTE
FDD BAND frequency 847-854,5 20 / 806-813,5
FDD BAND 7 frequency 2530-2540 / 2650-2660
TDD BAND frequency 38 2570-2595
The operator VimpelCom (Beeline)
FDD BAND frequency 854,5-862 20 / 813,5-821
FDD BAND 7 frequency 2550-2560 / 2670-2680
operator MTS
FDD BAND frequency 839,5-847 20 / 798,5-806
As I've come to believe from various sources the official supported bands are as follows:
4G FDD-LTE bands 1 / 3 / 7
4G TDD-LTE bands 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
3G TD-SCDMA bands 34 / 39
3G WCDMA bands 1 / 2 / 5 / 8
3G CDMA 2000 bands BC0 / BC1
2G GSM bands 2 / 3 / 5 / 8
2G CDMA 1X BC0 / BC1
Now since I live in europe .. my ISP's most used 4g (LTE) band is 20 (800mhz) and so it is not supported..
Will it be possible to unlock this band via QPST - QXDM modification, or has the band been disabled on the hardware side of the chip itself ?
I know it's very early on, but I have been anticipating the arrival of MI5 for months now, only to find a lack of european LTE support ...
thanks in advance for any info !!!
I also wonder this! Would be great for the 4G coverage here in Europe!
I'm also curious about this. If LTE band 20 is unlockable I'll buy one right away
It would be nice to know if it would be possible. I am also very interested in this phone
Here is answer from official support:
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Here is answer from official support:
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Well, that does only mean that the device does not officially support others bands. The question however was, if other bands can be unlocked.
FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
TD-SCDMA 1900/ 2000
CDMA EV-DO Rev.A (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100mhz)
WCDMA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100)
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900)
http://en.miui.com/thread-230990-1-1.html
This maybe helpful also:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/
Hi!
found this in the Q&A Thrad how is also in a post here in this topic.
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Q: What networks and LTE bands are supported?
A:As follows:
Network
4G FDD-LTE
TDD-LTE bands 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 7 / 8 / 12 / 13 / 17 / 18 / 19 / 20 / 25 / 26 / 27 / 28 / 29 (uncertain)
bands 38 / 39 / 40 / 41
3G TD-SCDMA
WCDMA
CDMA 2000 bands 34 / 39
bands 1 / 2 / 5 / 8
bands BC0 / BC1
2G GSM
CDMA 1X bands 2 / 3 / 5 / 8
BC0 / BC1
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I think this look real nice and answers some questions :good:
Sorry that i cant post the source link in the official MIUI Forum of regulation of XDA Forum.
Have a nice day!
It's not sure ? That said full Lte but in marker said only 1800 2100 2600 what is the true ?
dmnrmr said:
FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
TD-SCDMA 1900/ 2000
CDMA EV-DO Rev.A (800, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100mhz)
WCDMA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100)
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900)
http://en.miui.com/thread-230990-1-1.html
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Awesome! It will be my next phone!
These are the official bands:
FDD-LTE (band B1, B3, B7)
TD-LTE (band B38, B39, B40, B41)
TD-SCDMA (band B34, B39)
WCDMA (bands B1, B2, B5, B8)
GSM (band B2, B3 , B5, B8)
CDMA1X / EVDO? (band BC0)
As stated on Xiaomi's website:
http://www.mi.com/mi5/specs/
See also:
http://www.gizchina.com/2016/02/26/xiaomi-mi5-lte-bands-confirmed-as-137-only/
They've updated them today.
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They've updated them today.
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These are the official bands:
FDD-LTE (band B1, B3, B7)
TD-LTE (band B38, B39, B40, B41)
TD-SCDMA (band B34, B39)
WCDMA (bands B1, B2, B5, B8)
GSM (band B2, B3 , B5, B8)
CDMA1X / EVDO? (band BC0)
As stated on Xiaomi's website:
http://www.mi.com/mi5/specs/
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Hgneto said:
Awesome! It will be my next phone!
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We'll all just probably have to wait until someone has one in hand and can test some different SIM Card to see what it actually will support... Needless to say though is if someone at least tests with either a TMO SIM or ATT SIM and they work.... one can assume that all 18 bands do... now it's a waiting game
mahst68 said:
We'll all just probably have to wait until someone has one in hand and can test some different SIM Card to see what it actually will support... Needless to say though is if someone at least tests with either a TMO SIM or ATT SIM and they work.... one can assume that all 18 bands do... now it's a waiting game
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I'm pretty sure it will not have all of those bands. Out of luck if you want to use this and are on Verizon, Sprint, AT&T or T-Mobile.
They just updated the supported bands and they have some of my country.. But I don't understand quite well the difference in the 800hz to 1800 to even 2600.. if for example my device catches the 1800 band but not the others, will the signal be good, or to be perfect in need to pick them all?
Also, higher frequency means better signal?
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I'm pretty sure it will not have all of those bands. Out of luck if you want to use this and are on Verizon, Sprint, AT&T or T-Mobile.
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It won't support AT&T LTE?
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Yes is it confirmed ! But if many people say it Xiaomi can't make Lte Global because Samsung and Apple don't want this...
But I'm sure it's not hardware but software and it possible to unlock this ?
And Xiaomi wont to shop in international but in late 2017 and this MI5 there are Lte Global in late 2017 Sorry for people want it me to
The question has not actually been answered: is anyone aware of any possibilities to unlock, via a kernel perhaps, the bands which should be supported by the hardware?
There's a good chance if you can unlock bootloader, Hugo Barra said in an interview that the India version will have those unlocked and not the model sold in China.