Today I posted this on G+:
https://plus.google.com/104522596589171041648/posts/JfBDxdTAjSR
I'd be willing to place down a wager that the +Verizon Wireless and +AT&T variants of the Galaxy S5 will have the download booster feature disabled.
I can't imagine those companies taking very kindly to the idea of using WiFi and LTE simultaneously, just due to the fear of pissed off customers going over their data plans because they had no idea what they were doing. Plus it has the real potential to create even more usage on their networks, which most bigger carriers don't seem to like.
Considering how providers like to push people to use WiFi whenever possible (doesn't ever carrier have a WiFi finder app these days?), yeah, I don't see the big boys taking too kindly to the download booster. I guess we'll find out in a little under 2 weeks.
If my hunch is correct, I'd highly suggest that anyone owning affected variants scream and complain to anyone who will listen. This will hopefully lead to the guilty carriers releasing statements saying "The exclusion of the download booster functionality was an oversight and not intentional. We will fix this issue in a future software update."
Any thoughts?
It better not be. But yes, I can see them doing that. I say, it's my data, let me use it anyway I want to.
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Well AT&T's sure doesn't mention download booster anywhere on the S5 page. I swear to God if they disabled it I will raise hell. Such a great feature too.
But these larger carriers have to much control. They really shouldn't be able to touch any device or modify it. Only Samsung should do that. If T-Mobile didn't have such spotty coverage by me, I'd be on them in a second ordering my S5 instead of ATT.
Ordering the non carrier version of the S5 isn't an option either because it so conveniently doesn't support bands 4 and 17. WOW
That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
I could be wrong but i would imagine there is a setting you can disable to prevent yourself from constantly using both. So it should be in the purchasers hands hence no reason for AT&T to disable it to prevent data overages. That being said, AT&T is a company that likes to piss everyone off and remove features that are major selling points just because they can.
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I don't see why they would do this. If a customer goes over their data usage, that's more money in the carrier's pocket. Playing ignorance isn't an excuse for going over your limit. I don't see why a carrier would hand-hold customers on this issue. Not only that, but I don't see Samsung allowing them to do this, considering this is a pretty major selling point for the S5.
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I can definitely see them doing this. Let me tell you why. AT&T is the only carrier that has brainwashed people in thinking WIFI is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I've often had AT&T reps tell me, ya know you really should use WIFI instead of your data. I was like why do I pay for it then? I still have the original AT&T $30 unlimited data plan for smartphones so I don't care, but even with that, they try to tell me to use wifi. I believe its because they don't want the same disaster to happen to their network that happened back in 2009. The network overloaded with all the iPhones. Nowadays, the network is amazing and has no problem with capacity. But I think they instilled it into all their rep's heads to make people use WIFI all the time. I have passed an AT&T store while driving and my phone connects to their crappy WIFI. I even argued with one rep a while back that my mobile internet connection is more stable than their crappy in-store WIFI network.
So yea thats my two cents. I really hope they don't eliminate this awesome feature. I pre-ordered the device on AT&T and will be the first one to post if they did or not when I get it April 8
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I preordered an AT&T GS5 as well. I don't think it will replace my Z Ultra GPE as a daily driver, but I'm definitely going to have fun with it.
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That's because the unlocked international version isn't intended for the US market. It's intended to be sold at retail in other countries and the LTE bands that it suppers reflects that.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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Yea I know. Part of me just wishes there was only 1 GS5 that was a world phone that supported every kind of LTE network.
I did use the International Galaxy S3 years ago on AT&T and it worked great. No bloat, fast updates, and a black dialer. I may sound contradicting here, but now may actually be a great time to buy an HSPA+ only device. The HSPA+ network works great and isn't congested anymore. I occasionally test it out on my iPhone 5S since you can turn LTE off. I always get about 7-10mbps down. Even during calls speeds are now great. But when your getting 50mbps on LTE going back to H+ kinda hurts lol.
I ordered the white GS5. Never owned a white galaxy before. Cant wait to get it.
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I ordered a white one too. The GS4 GPE only comes in white so I'm used to white Galaxy devices now. haha
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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This feature is a key selling point in Samsung's walk through of the phone, so I'd say it won't be blocked. My thought was actually that I will never use this feature unless it's an emergency" (I. e. need new rom ASAP) or I have a lot of data left for the month. Otherwise, AT&T could be making some nice dough off of people going over their data limits.
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I am hoping that there is a way to disable it, as I really don't need it.
As it turns out, I changed my mind.. Cancelled my order and ordered HTC One M8
http://techknowzone.com/how-to-use-download-booster-in-samsung-galaxy-s5/
According to that article, not only can you disable it, but it actually doesnt impact normal web browsing or downloading small files. All the more reason AT&T has no excuse to disable it. For the average consumer, you wont got over your data simply because its on. If you arent downloading files over 30mb, it does nothing.
I'm sure the feature isn't there on the store models. Maybe because no sim card or active data connection
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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Your local AT&T store has a GS5 out on the floor? That doesn't sound right.
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yes its out. also got some pics
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yes its out. also got some pics
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Wow... Well hopefully the floor model isn't running final software and there will be an OTA before launch. I'm not going to freak out just yet.
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Sure enough went to the AT&T store today and chgecked the s5 that has a sim card in it and couldn't find the download booster.
Super predictable move.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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If they disabled that feature then I think its time we start retaliating. I probably will send my pre-order back and go with the International version. The LTE networks are getting bogged down nowadays, while the HSPA+ network is doing great.
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I'm going to head over to the biggest corporate store in the area tonight and see if they have a GS5 on the floor. If so, I'll try to verify it. If it's true, you can bet your ass I'm canceling my preorder.
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Some pics from the store today
Sorry they came up inverted.
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I currently have AT&T but need to switch to Verizon since AT&T has no coverage in an area I travel to frequently. What's the likelihood of the Note coming to Verizon?
With the recent announcement of the LTE Korean version the likelihood is much better, no? If not I may have to settle for the Nexus, which is not something I really want to do...
I highly doubt it.
Thanks for the response. Why do you doubt it?
He's probably just being sarcastic, I imagine this question gets asked a fair bit. I only chanced on this thread from a google search for any new news about the Note coming to the US on Verizon.
...And the latest is still "maybe"...Maybe now that they've released a Note with LTE, in South Korea, that a US release is forthcoming. Nothing is confirmed though and neither Samsung or Verizon are saying anything further.
I was incredibly close myself to getting the GSM/HSPA version of the Note, figuring on getting whatever the cheapest service from AT&T is...But AT&T just started "turning on" their LTE service in NYC area and the Note isn't capable of using it.
...And so I too am waiting to see what the story is/will-be with Verizon.
Plus it looks like the LTE 7003 will only have the single core cpu and older gpu... I wonder why?
Verizon or TMobile or bust...
I mean that seriously, I will use AT&T over my cold dead rotting corpse...
There is NOTHING you could do besides give me everything (phone/plan/yearsofservice) FREE to get me to use AT&T... been there, done that, have to suffer with them for home phone/dsl (and no, no-one else services my area, not even SAT), dont plan on making it any worse then I have to...
I mean, hell, they yet again managed to get ranked WORST in customer satisfaction for the last 2 years solid... and more even before that...
At this point, I am willing to suffer with no 3G on TMo then not... WiFi FTW!
I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
I have had a great experience with AT&T. I am currently using a iPad SIM in my Note. I get 6 down and 1.5 up, which is no better then my iPhone 4 got...but it's more then adequate for surfing. Google Voice for text, GroovIP for voice. $30 a month(grandfather iPad Unlimited) Though $25 a month for 2 gigs is still reasonable I think.
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I have mine at Tmobile. I get 15kb down on edge. Its fine for gps and stuff, big stuff on wifi tho but i pay 50 bucks only.
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thats not bad actually, and if you use google maps/navigation you can use the labs "preload" and not require all that much anyway!...
the scale keeps tipping towards GNote-ON-TMo... Voice+EDGE wont be so bad since I use WiFi 95% of the time anyway...
Oh and I could switch to the "off" carrier for TMobile, ergo SimpleMobile and pay even less!
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...going-away-all-users-pushed-onto-shared-data/
I knew Big Red would find a way eventually, didn't think it would have been this soon.
For now it is only those on 3G with 3G phones but everyone else will soon follow. Sprint is looking good about now.
Quite sad of what Big Red is doing. Looks like ATT is my next best choice for coverage since T-Mobile still has 2G in my area and Sprint has 3G and ATT has 4G also.
This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
drt054 said:
This makes the news yesterday about Google possibly selling unlocked "Nexus" devices in the Play Store all the more interesting. Then pick your carrier. I see a possible loophole if by some miracle there are CDMA/LTE Nexus devices I will never have to re-up my contract. That looks how to be only way to keep unlimited at this point is never renewing or upgrading phone through Verizon once they have this bullsh*t program in full swing.
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Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
Gel Pen6 said:
Sadly, They only sell GSM phones for now which needs to change. But, they said in the post that everybody will eventually be forced into a "shared" plan that even not upgrading they'll still put you into one from my understanding unless I missed something.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Damn.. just looked at the Play Store and didn't know they would have that up so fast. BUT the good news is they are going to have Nexus phones and tablets about 5 different NEW devices and not just Motorola so I will have to keep an eye out. My contract isn't over with til 2013 anyways. Hoping by then for a 4.3-4.5" Motorola Droid 5 or variant with full QWERTY which is my dream phone right now. I cannot go to a 4.0" phone after 4.3" but I miss the physical QWERTY of my D1.
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Mine isn't over till Summer of 2013 but I was planning on stealing one of my family members upgrade plans since they have one this coming November which is exactly the time when the new Nexus phones come out but I'll have to see if me and my family stick around with Verizon until then. Also, the Droid 4 has a physical qwerty keyboard which I'm not sure how people can use a physical keyboard (I had a physical keyboard before this phone) and I've messed around on the physical keyboard and It feels so weird to even type on it when I use to be able to type paragraphs in seconds on that phone without even looking at the keyboard.
Here is another article with a little clarification...
http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-plan-unless-you-buy-a-new-subsidized-device/
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Went into the Verizon store near me and asked them about it and they said that they don't even know about only through customers coming in. He said that corporate sent them an email saying they haven't released anything yet on it.
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Or they just play stupid.
drt054 said:
lol.. my experience the Verizon Store employees don't ever know anything
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Lol that's true.
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More than likely they are in the know, they are just directed to play stupid as being knowledgeable does nothing to help their bottom line or store sales.
If I lose my unlimited, I'm going to leave Verizon and go to some bootleg company like Boost. I hate Sprint so will never go back to them.
I pay what I pay for the 3 lines that I have because I like ny unlimited. I lose that...how about it don't be worth the money anymore. I'd rather pay $50 a phone with boost or cricket or metropcs.
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Interesting article
Thanks for the article; it will be interesting to see if Verizon does indeed follow through with eliminating the grandfathering of unlimited data plan. This is one of the features my wife and I both love.
I went to Verizon yesterday and the guy said he's heard about it but he's never gotten any official thing that he said if it is implemented it'll be at the end of the year or somewhere around there.
This whole thing is weird to me...
We have US Cellular out here, and if they can get a few more phone options I may just go with them. Everyone I talk to says they are a breeze to deal with and the network is good enough to work with.
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
Yuhfhrh said:
It's not fair :'(
My grandparents live in a rural area and its where I spend about 1/4 of the year. Tmobile and Att are GPRS, but Sprint and Verizon have 3g. Its the only internet there and I need reliable internet for work. I can't get the new Nexus.
I know I'm in a small boat of people but I'm still going to post my sob story. I just love the Nexus program.
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That really sucks, but yeah, I think Google itself has said that it did not like how the Verizon Galaxy Nexus turned out. In the end, if anyone's been there through the Galaxy S, or S2, or S3, we do know that carrier's influence really does bring down phones, such as a slower processor or bloatware or lack of features. Still, they could have opted for some type of CDMA model but I'm not sure whether they need to work directly with Verizon/Sprint to make it happen.
filmaker said:
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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Yeah, I'm kinda bummed about this as well. I'm on Ting, which rides Sprint's network (and occasionally Verizon's voice network), and this phone annihilates everything else in the price range. The best unsubsidized option at $300 at the moment is the Samsung Galaxy Victory, which while capable, isn't exactly a phone to get excited about--while the SGSIII clocks in starting at $530. The Nexus line has been really appealing as far as price/quality goes. I was really hoping this would end up on Sprint so I could send a well-built phone out to my mom in the sticks where LTE probably won't rear it's ugly head for another few years.
Oh well, I suppose I can take solace from the fact that I couldn't get this phone even if I'd stuck with Verizon.
I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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filmaker said:
I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
eksasol said:
You'll be glad once you do too, unless you are living in some area where there is no access to T-Mobile 3G. Otherwise its so much better.
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Haha yeah, Sprint has been getting better for me, however their speed still sucks when compared to AT&T and T-mobile in my area. Plus, my plan is nearly $100, when I seriously just want text and data lol, I don't care about talking. And also, I find it annoying being on a CDMA network because all these great phone come out, and I have to wait a pro-longed time period to get my hands on one.
filmaker said:
Okay, I really want this device now. I used the Galaxy Nexus before, liked it, but wasn't a big fan of the camera/battery/slower processor comapred to my Evo 4G LTE. I'm impressed that for once a Nexus Device has cutting edge hardware. So I guess this means I'm going to have to drop Sprint to and switch to T-Mobile to get this lol.
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I am switching from Sprint for this very reason. Tired of missing out on all the good phones aaaaaannnnnnnd Sprint service is horrible in centrel florida
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I've been on Cingular then T-Mobile for 4 years. Ported to Verizon just for the Galaxy Nexus. Now I'm paying the ETF and porting over to at&t. No real problems with Verizon, its just their LTE network is abysmal on battery...and I work for at&t so I get a good discount on service. Just waiting for a good reason to switch.
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If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'll be doing the same thing, but I may ride the T-Mobile side of the service for faster 3G.
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Been there done that. 2GB of data and I got warning calls. Don't expect them to be good at all!
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I have went over 5gb's a month on ST and never experienced slow down or ever had a warning message
Entropy512 said:
If you're going to be using a Nexus, I'd suggest Straight Talk. AT&T's network without the massive subsidy penalty. (AT&T forces you to pay the subsidy penalty even if you don't have a subsidized device.)
I'm switching to them as soon as my contract is up... Actually I should do the math on the ETF now. Even with a 25% discount on service, ST still saves me $20-30/month.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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I am planning on leaving sprint to for this devices. Any ideas on what a good carrier to switch too? Without worrying about going over your data limits
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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If T-Mobile coverage is a good option for you Solevei and Simple Mobile are 2 very good alternatives. Solevei doesnt throttle till 4gb and SM states it doesnt throttle at all as long as you play "nice" with the network.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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There would be (hefty) early termination fees. A nice thing is that even if she has the Verizon version, it can handle GSM.
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I'm looking into ST as well. Only issue is I'm on a family plan and my wife just used her upgrade for the iPhone 5. I'm out of contract but she's obviously isn't. Not sure its possible to switch over to ST?
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Forewarning on those who want to jump to StraightTalk.
StraightTalk has occasional issues where you will lose Data connectivity and the only solution is to restart hoping it has returned. Happened a lot to my girlfriend and dropped them on September. Rumor has it AT&T is throttling mvno networks or some sort. I haven't heard them fixing the issue but
Reference:
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2012/08/persistent-data-problems-frustrating.html
There are links to various forums there with the same complaint. Try and see if the issue is fixed.
People think T-Mobile will be good and rosy until they actually make the switch to T-Mobile.
I say this... T-Mobile is a good carrier if they have good service where you live and you don't ever leave your area.
But, if you try doing ANY kind of traveling, good luck. I loved T-Mobile when I first got them. I didn't travel much. Then, I started traveling because I got a new job, and I was almost always roaming, had crap service, and tons of dropped calls.
That lasted about a week and then I paid the ETF and got the heck out of there.
No problems on Verizon. Love them, never a dropped call, LTE service almost everywhere I go... Just wish they would stop thinking they're making their users experiences better...THEY AREN'T!
Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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Not sure where you travel, I have always had T-Mobile and travel all over. I cant think of a single time I didnt have good connectivity or service. Any good sized city probably already has "4G" and smaller ones have excellent coverage. I suppose if you find yourself outside of the city you may run into issues, I never have in 5+ years.
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T-mobile works fine all over Califoronia, from SD to the norcal. Verizon has the best network service but then again they cost almost double of what t-mobile users are paying. T-mobile users also have unlimited data and up to 5GB of 4G.
Also with simcard base phone, they can be re-used all over the wordl and have higher resell value. You can only sell a verizon phone to verrizon customer.
Every GALAXY launch we go through the same BS. No 32GB option available, and this time no GOLD or BLUE color options available. Why? Why? Why? Is it really that difficult to include all the colors with 32GB? Now those of us who want to get the phone on launch are once again screwed just like we were last year and the year before on 32gb of storage. Of course I take all this back if the unlocked variant offered AT&T LTE support; which it doesn't by the way. Why am I not surprised? The 16gb S5 will have about 10GB of user storage.
I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
Anyone else feeling just as frustrated with this mess we endure every year.
I totally agree, but the ATT S4 did come with a 32Gb. I am using it right now. I wish Sammy would up them all to 32Gb and an option for 64Gb. 16Gb is too small with how large touchwiz is with each revision. No way I will go back to only 16Gb on board.
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16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.
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16GB is never an issue with me, regardless of the device. It's more than enough for my needs, considering I have maybe 2-4 very small games on my devices at any given time. What does piss me off is the lack of all the colors. I wanted the blue model, but of course, that's not possible...for whatever idiotic reason. I just said screw it and preordered the black. I guess I'll just buy a different back cover down the road.
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16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?
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16GB may not be an issue for everyone, but why can't they just give the customer the choice at pre-launch? I have no problem paying more for storage. Why does Apple sell every color and size up front from day 1? That's what I don't get. Since they are dying so much to be like Apple, then why can't they at least do that?
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Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.
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Agreed -- it really doesn't make any sense at all. All model options should be available from day 1, no exceptions. That's one thing Apple does an excellent job at. They announce their devices and the same day you can start preordering any color/storage model, assuming the stock is available, of course. It pissed me off even more, because we had to wait this long after the S5 announcement to just preorder it...and then we don't have all the options available? Very annoying.
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+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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+1, Samsung never have full availability of their models. Either they announce a color but don't have it or announce a 64 GB version and don't have it.
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Yeah I know. Its ridiculous. I don't know why I had such high hopes for them to turn around and launch the S5 differently than before.
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I am so fed up with this type of BS. AT&T is, unfortunately, the only carrier that works well in my area. T-Mobile is spotty with lots of EDGE. If only their service was on lower spectrum, I'd be all over them.
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I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.
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I know it doesnt help right now, but i recall reading on Engadget recently that T-Mobile is claiming that all of their 2g areas will be upgraded to 4g by 2015 or early in 2015. That should open up more options for you and countless others.
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That will help, but a major problem T-Mobile has it that their frequencies don't reach as far as AT&T's and therefore you get EDGE. T-Mobile has all their towers upgraded in my area to HSPA+ and some with LTE, but since those signals don't travel as far, it always turns into EDGE. They need to shut EDGE down entirely and use only H+.
New TouchWiz is just over 8 gigs of space, I've been told the 16gb version will have about 7 gigs of usable storage. I'm waiting for the 32gb version to come to AT&BS I guess a little later this year.
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This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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This is why I am thinking of passing on s5 and going to HTC one m8. I checked out the phone at AT&T and very impressed with it plus it comes in 32gb at AT&T as default. Tired of Samsung Bs. They will release a 32gb version on AT&T 6 months down the road or never.
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Yea. With the S4 I think they announced the 32GB version about 2 weeks after the 16GB went on sale; ultimately screwing anyone who wanted one because their return policy was up.
I actually ordered the 16GB because I never have come close to filling the internal storage I was just pissed its not an option. I just really wanted the blue. **** like that pisses me off. I am sure if AT&T gets the 32GB it will only come in black. I wanted white this time.
Yeah AT&T waited 2 weeks on purpose so you couldn't return the 16gb version. I bet they will pull something similar now. Hoping that somebody is desperate to open another line or pay full price to get it.
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Same thing with last year. 64GB M7 cost the same as a 16GB S4.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFi whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Personally, I have never used a Nexus device. I have heard bad things about LG's nexus. But I guess it wouldn't be fair of me to judge that device without actually using it. Samsung's TW provides me with exactly what I need. I love the look and a lot of the features. Like you, and as I have already stated, I will keep my pre-order intact and wait until I actually get the device to see for myself if the feature has been disabled or not.
If they do, in fact disable download booster, I probably will go with the international variant. No carrier branding whatsoever. I believe its the same case as in the past. NO LTE, but 21mbps HSPA+ which is fine for my needs. I think loosing LTE may be worth getting an untouched/non-carrier branded Samsung phone. NO limitations, no nothing. Having the ability to have a custom recovery and kernels would be a deal breaker alone. We already know the AT&T S5 will have a locked down bootloader.
One thing I am looking forward to with the AT&T S5 is its support for carrier aggregation. I live in the Chicago land area (one of AT&T's first LTE-A markets). So I am dying to see how much faster my speeds will be.
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Equally as important as the space issue is the "download booster" feature, which is disabled on all the demo devices that are popping up in AT&T stores. I'm going to wait for the actual devices to ship to customers before passing judgment because floor models definitely do have things disabled sometimes. That said, it certainly shouldn't shock anyone that AT&T would want this disabled. Years of history support the idea that they don't want people using their network, and they push people toward WiFI whenever possible. I can just see some corporate goon in a boardroom breaking out in a cold sweat over the idea of people accidentally using download booster and going over their data plans because they didn't realize what they were doing.
Let us not forget this is also the same carrier who disabled installation of non-market APKs on their early Android devices, shipped the Note 2 without the multi-window functionality until enough people raised hell, and removed the Knox security app from the Note 3. This says nothing of the fact that they still manage to get their paws into Nexus devices, successfully getting Google to code in an exception that disables tethering on the Nexus 7 if you have an AT&T SIM card in it. There's no account check or anything else. If you have an AT&T SIM card in your Nexus 7, the tethering option disappears. End of story. Not even Verizon does that. Also, does anyone remember how, for the longest time, AT&T made both Apple and Google disable video chat in Facetime and Hangouts over HSPA+ and LTE, forcing you to use WiFi?
So far, I'm leaving my preorder intact, but if my device doesn't have the download booster feature, I'm returning it. Every time I decide to give a carrier-branded device a chance, it seems I get let down. Even with Nexus devices, AT&T finds a way to let me down (thus why I have my N7 on Verizon). I'm trying to give AT&T the benefit of the doubt on the download booster, but I'm not at all optimistic. :/ I mainly stick with AT&T because they're basically the only choice if you want to use unlocked Nexus and/or GPE devices and still have Verizon-like coverage.
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Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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Well said. Unlocked devices in the USA pretty much only fully support AT&T frequencies. Sure they may be unlocked, but use any other carrier and you'll end up losing out on one to numerous frequencies.
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I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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I can't speak for all unlocked devices, but every Nexus device with a cellular radio fully supports all bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. In addition, the Nexus 5 fully supports all Sprint CDMA and LTE bands, and the 2013 N7 has full Verizon LTE support.
On the GPE side, you're right. The Moto G and both generations of the HTC One lack support for HSPA+ on the AWS/1700 MHz band, which T-Mobile requires for any area not refarmed to use HSPA+ on the PCS/1900 MHz band.
That said, all GPEs fully support T-Mobile LTE.
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Yeah that's true I forgot about T-Mobile. Nexus 5 did it right with good carrier support. GPE supporting T-Mobile and AT&T is nice, but nowhere near ideal. Case in point the M8 unlocked and Dev editions only support AT&T. Also, I think the unlocked iPhones support all the US carriers (99% sure).
Point is, to my knowledge, unlocked device support in the USA is like this (greatest adoption to least):
1. AT&T
2. T-Mobile
3. Sprint (very little support)
4. Verizon (pretty much nothing)
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i'm confused, why doesn't everyone that want bigger memory space to just spend 35 dollars on amazon and get a 64GB micro card? that'd what i did so now when i get my AT&T S5, I'll have a total of 70 GBs free space....
i think you guys are crying way too much about this 16GB deal.
Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Besides speed...What I love about Sprint is the low ping times!
I'm always in the 30-40ms pings where I live
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Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.
Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
Verizon rules SC. Sprint all but abandoned this state when it came to service, and now everyone I know is on Verizon.
Not sure how long I'm going to stay on. Verizon has the best service by far here.
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And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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And you pay for that, much rather pay less than you, and on top that have unlimited data.
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I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.
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I rarely ever use data anyway. I'm on Wi-Fi no matter where I go. There is nothing so dang important I can't wait to read about it on my HTPC in my living room.
Data is basically for emergencies.
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You might be better off with a prepaid phone then
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Well, development for this carrier for this phone is minimal.
Look at the other carriers development threads. Sprint is dying off, and it's a sad thing to see.
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Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.
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Kind of an unfair thing to say about the development for this phone. There are several projects being worked on and your going to see a lot more to come. The phone is still really new and everything doesn't drop at once.
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I believe it to be quite fair.
The phone is getting tons of development, just not on Sprint. However, it is new, and many may still be enjoying their EVO's and M7's, or can't upgrade yet, but with the dropping of the S5, it's even more difficult.
In no way an I knocking our dev's either. That almost seems to be the implication. I'm merely saying that Sprint is lagging behind the other carriers, especially if you take into account the General thread, which has nothing for us.
The quick smirky answer is, "learn to dev then", but I don't have the knowledge, so I donate when I can, to support.
Again, the point is, Sprint is losing in a lot of ways, and the OP has the main reason why.
Sprint has been lax with their customers.
Well op I can't really blame you for leaving. Only reason I haven't left I'm on Sero plan and I know what Sprints intentions are however it seems like nothing ever gets done. My home tower has been borked for almost a year since last July. Spark looks very promising but I am also very tired of waiting. I am gonna wait it out especially since Softbank is now backing Sprint they have deep pockets. Coming up on 2015 and pulling struggling to pull 0.5 megabits is pathetic. I'm gonna hold out for it but yea it's tough.
For one Sprint has the lowest number of subscribers than ATT and VZ so that's kinda expected naturally.... But looking at the other carrier specific development sections sprints isn't lagging much behind if at all..... The main M8 section is a different beast though as that has a bunch of world carriers basically lumped in one and always has more activity compared to the US carrier section...
Of note things like kernels and such will work cross carriers... Often when an item is compatible same file across all versions it's placed only in the main M8 section as dev would only have to maintain and watch 1 thread then....
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Good for you!
This is what I get on Sprint:
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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?
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Holy crap, do you live in Sprint HQ, right next to the LTE generator thingy?
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LOL no, I can get those numbers at any spot in LA where reception is strong. I think at spots where I get those numbers the RSRP can get in the -60 dBm range.
SPreston2001 said:
Just wanted to say my farewells to the Sprint forum. I've been a loyal Sprint customer for 12 years but I just couldn't take the waiting anymore. My area still doesnt have LTE fully deployed and the speeds weren't that fast in the areas where it was. I had the M7 with Sprint and loved it whenever it was connected to WiFi! With Spark being 1-2 years away from my area I just couldn't wait for Sprint any longer. Got the M8 and jumped over to T-Mobile and now i'm living in the fast lane! Now granted one of these test was in the middle of the night I still average 30-50Mbps during the day!! Sprints LTE would barely crack 7-8Mbps!! Love the device!!
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im with ya OP...This phone was too good to not use properly on Sprint for me too.I took a look at my average data usage per month on Sprint and headed on down to AT&T for 2 phones at $130/month for a 10 gig family shared plan,more than enough for us as we never passed 7.5GB over 12 years..I will come back to Sprint when their build out is complete and if they offer unlimited data still for new customers.
I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.
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I'm starting to get to the same point. My 3g is atrocious, LTE is basically nonexistent, I constantly drop or miss calls. Could be the phone though. My wife's gs3 doesn't have these issues. Very frustrating.
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Well it is your phone but not because its defective lol. Its a tri-band device (Spark enabled) so until Sprint launches Spark in your area the phone wont perform very well. Its a network issue and the only thing you can do at the moment is change the phone to CDMA only mode. It will block your LTE but atleast you will get all of your calls and 3G. It has to do with the tri-band phones not being able to to simultaneous voice and data...
Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.
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Yea, I do realize that, I have it on cdma only. I'm not sure what happened earlier. I was on the phone and I dropped the call 5 times within 10 minutes.
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Oh lol yeah well dropped calls that's just good ol Sprint service. I really used to like Sprint alot! I just couldn't take the terrible network anymore. Just got my first bill from T-Mobile and it's sitting at $69.
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Nice
To be honest there are only 2 reasons I'm still on Sprint.
1) Unlimited Data, as I go through about 30GB of data a month I NEED truly unlimited and unthrottled data.
2) Verizon tried to f' me over while I was in the Marines and for about a year they screwed my credit rating to hell. I faxed them a copy of my orders showing I was being sent to Japan and told them to put my account on hold. I paid my final Verizon bill and called to verify I didn't owe them anything else and that my phone would be placed on hold. About a year later I get a letter from their legal department demanding ~$500 for early termination and other fees and that it had been reported on my credit rating. So Verizon can go f' themselves, no matter what I'll never do business with them again.