Questions before buy a z1 - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi folks,
i want to change my htc one, i was first thinking of m8 or z2, but when i see the price, i am not that fast...
so i had a look to the z1 compact, wich seems quite nice, and i like what sony is doing these days.
first question i had in mind: is it possible to use the external microphone you can see in z2 accessories, and it seems that the answer is no, due to the 5 pin jack, bummer
now the other question, can you run lifelog on z1 ? i guess it should n be a probleme, if somebody can confirm, would be great.
i ve read here and there that the z1 camera was suffering of quality picture issues, did you guys got an update to fix that (knowing it s same camera than z2 )
Also on z2 they talk about steady motion for recording video, i guess it s only software stuff, is it implemented on the z1 ?
Thx for your replies

Good question about the mic, it has the same plug as my NC headphones I use
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/06/sony-stm10-stereo-microphone-priced-to-launch-in-early-april/
and those work on my Z1, not sure if the mic will work, I feel maybe the software isn't in the Z1 for it to work? perhaps once the Z2 comes out and the mic, sony will update z1 and the mic will work, why wouldn't they, would still permit z1 users to buy it and have it.

ascariss said:
Good question about the mic, it has the same plug as my NC headphones I use
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/06/sony-stm10-stereo-microphone-priced-to-launch-in-early-april/
and those work on my Z1, not sure if the mic will work, I feel maybe the software isn't in the Z1 for it to work? perhaps once the Z2 comes out and the mic, sony will update z1 and the mic will work, why wouldn't they, would still permit z1 users to buy it and have it.
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the issue about the external mic is hardware related and it will NEVER work on Z1
any ideas about the other points i ve mentioned?

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{Q} Xperia z with razer headphones

i have been wanted to buy the razer electra for a while
and my most important question was if the headphones can opperate with my xperia z
anyone has tried them of the phone or other razer headphones ?
thanks
thomasx99x said:
i have been wanted to buy the razer electra for a while
and my most important question was if the headphones can opperate with my xperia z
anyone has tried them of the phone or other razer headphones ?
thanks
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No reason why sound won't work. Its an analogue connection and should work on any headphones with a 3.5mm jack.
But, the microphone might not work on the phone.

[Q] Low Speaker Volume?

I consider buying the Z3 Compact. However, I read that the volume of the stereo speakers is really low and the sound is muffled.
Read this for example here:
gsmarena: "Sony Xperia Z3 Compact review: Not your usual suspect"
youtube: "Sony Xperia Z3 vs Z3 Compact speaker comparison"
In contrast to that the S5 mini is said to have great speakers. What do you think?
hindman said:
I consider buying the Z3 Compact. However, I read that the volume of the stereo speakers is really low and the sound is muffled.
Read this for example here:
gsmarena: "Sony Xperia Z3 Compact review: Not your usual suspect"
youtube: "Sony Xperia Z3 vs Z3 Compact speaker comparison"
In contrast to that the S5 mini is said to have great speakers. What do you think?
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difficult to say, but I doubt it's "really low", it's all relative to what you compare it to. Maybe if you're worried you should wait until it's out and test it at some store.
charliebigpot said:
difficult to say, but I doubt it's "really low", it's all relative to what you compare it to. Maybe if you're worried you should wait until it's out and test it at some store.
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The stereo speaker is indeed not as loud as the one from the Z1C.
But therefor the ear speaker is much louder and clearer.
UserX10 said:
The stereo speaker is indeed not as loud as the one from the Z1C.
But therefor the ear speaker is much louder and clearer.
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Just found this about the speakers, maybe it can give you some indications.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwBV2s0naC0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
hindman said:
I consider buying the Z3 Compact. However, I read that the volume of the stereo speakers is really low and the sound is muffled.
Read this for example here:
gsmarena: "Sony Xperia Z3 Compact review: Not your usual suspect"
youtube: "Sony Xperia Z3 vs Z3 Compact speaker comparison"
In contrast to that the S5 mini is said to have great speakers. What do you think?
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I think this should also give you an answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/questions-belong-t2868300
Volume of Speakerphone Z3 C
The Youtube Video with the comparison between Z3 and Z3 Compact showed quite loud speaker volume for Z3 Compact but it was
kind of muffled on higher frequencies compared to Z3 .
Hopefully , Sony will fix this in production units.
However the Compact was peaking at 70 to 80 db which is very good compared to many.
I don't understand how GSM Arena is so low on this measurement.
You can hear in the Video that Z3 was above his speech level where GSM Arena would suggest otherwise.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTmq3jbWLJA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here is a more recent Video in which a Z3 Compact Speaker completely dominates a Nexus 5 in volume, fullness, and quality.
Again, the Z3 Compact is much louder than speech level.
Not scientific and it's Italian but the Speaker is very loud and clear for a phone.
robertkoa said:
The Youtube Video with the comparison between Z3 and Z3 Compact showed quite loud speaker volume for Z3 Compact but it was
kind of muffled on higher frequencies compared to Z3 .
Hopefully , Sony will fix this in production units.
However the Compact was peaking at 70 to 80 db which is very good compared to many.
I don't understand how GSM Arena is so low on this measurement.
You can hear in the Video that Z3 was above his speech level where GSM Arena would suggest otherwise.
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Z3C speaker volume is little lower than Z#, but still it is quite loud for its size.
I was reading a review recently where the reviewer actually claimed the Z3/Z3C speakers were better than the HTC M8. I highly doubt that, but the fact that he was willing to making the comparison at all is very promising. I guess we'll see soon. It's already been determined that the Z3 has more clarity than the Z3C though, but I'm sure volume won't be an issue.
boojay said:
I was reading a review recently where the reviewer actually claimed the Z3/Z3C speakers were better than the HTC M8. I highly doubt that, but the fact that he was willing to making the comparison at all is very promising. I guess we'll see soon. It's already been determined that the Z3 has more clarity than the Z3C though, but I'm sure volume won't be an issue.
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Maybe not - the Z3 Compact in the Btekt Video had a muffled quality which I hope was just a problem on that Unit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTmq3jbWLJA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This Italian Video has another Z3 Compact with no muffled high end and it is loud and full sounding.
Hopefully this is how actual production Units sound.
If so and SONY fine tunes Manual 20 megapixel Camera Modes - a great Phone and big seller.
here Z3C speakers are louder than z1c: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7eYbktArQ&feature=youtu.be&t=04m27s
boojay said:
I was reading a review recently where the reviewer actually claimed the Z3/Z3C speakers were better than the HTC M8. I highly doubt that, but the fact that he was willing to making the comparison at all is very promising. I guess we'll see soon. It's already been determined that the Z3 has more clarity than the Z3C though, but I'm sure volume won't be an issue.
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I have both the Z3C and M8 and there's absolutely no comparison. The M8 speakers win by a mile in every category...loudness, clarity, stereo sound, etc.
Yes, I've been spoiled by the speakers on the M8 that I've been using for the last 6 months, no doubt, but what I find weird about the Z3C speakers is how clear and loud the earpiece is on a phone call yet when you turn on speakerphone, they suddenly become muffled with a much lower volume.
Are they BAD? No, not at all. But I've found that in an environment with normal ambient noise, they're just a little too muffled and have just a bit too low of a volume. I'm sure this has something to do with the waterproofing, so I'm OK making a compromise in one area for a net gain in another. I've just been a bit surprised (and possibly expected too much).
I just got the phone and by boosting the midrange frequencies on the equalizer (I use Google Play Music), you can get a *much* improved sound quality coming out of the speakers. For whatever reason, the default configuration for the speakers is relatively poor.
kaimyn said:
I just got the phone and by boosting the midrange frequencies on the equalizer (I use Google Play Music), you can get a *much* improved sound quality coming out of the speakers. For whatever reason, the default configuration for the speakers is relatively poor.
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Cool tip! I'm not sure about fuller sound, but maxing out the equalizer has definitely increased the volume without any noticeable degradation to sound quality.
I am fairly certain that Z3 C speakers vary in volume and
clarity due to speakers used (which factory ?) or size
of cutouts on glass or other variations.
Comparison with One M 8 Mini:
Xperia Z3 Compact vs One Mini 2 Speaker Test: http://youtu.be/euz6DU3IUzY
Remember the Mini is not as loud as full sized HTC ONE
M 8 I heard both HTCs next to each other.
I have not heard Z3C yet but varied responses from users, reviewers, Videos suggest a lot of variation.
EDIT; Heard Z3C in Sony Store, new USA Z3C, and was very quiet on Speakerphone lower than Galaxy Alpha.
Some Videos demo very loud Z3 Cs.
Sony Xperia Z3 vs Sony Xperia Z3 Compact vs HTC O…: http://youtu.be/h2Z_vp9NMB0
The above Video the Z3 C is close in Volume to the full Z3 and both close to HTC ONE M 8 .
,Disregard Decibel Meter ( placed improperly) and use your ears.
Unfortunately, most Z3 Cs are not this loud.
I don't think it's soundproofing as much as actual speakers used, I suspect.different speakers in different
batches or factories.
Low speakers
I think the One m8 speakers are just a little bit better.
In my z3c top speaker is bit low more then down one. Or it is only me!!! Can anyone notice ?
Even I do love while listening songs on it, its a great piece .
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kaimyn said:
I just got the phone and by boosting the midrange frequencies on the equalizer (I use Google Play Music), you can get a *much* improved sound quality coming out of the speakers. For whatever reason, the default configuration for the speakers is relatively poor.
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THIS is the solution. I don't know why Sony had the speakers set to how they came out of the box, but you get a significant improvement if you play with the EQ etc
can you tell us which setting to tune for higher volume of the speakers?
+1 and how volume up when i speak with someone on speaker beacuse voice is very quiet, definitly when i drive car.
My z3 compact speakers are just as loud as my htc one m7 but they sound much more tiny than htc. No bass.

Upgrade xperia Z1 speaker?

OK so I just got my xperia Z1 2 days ago and I love it. The only thing is that the sound is disgustingly low. My old xperia z was louder.
Now I have a hairbrain idea.
The xperia play is still the loudest xperia phone I ever had back in the day. Now I was wondering, if. By any means at all would it be possible to put a xperia play speaker in my Z1?(I wonder what that would do to the waterproofing.)
xdarkmario said:
OK so I just got my xperia Z1 2 days ago and I love it. The only thing is that the sound is disgustingly low. My old xperia z was louder.
Now I have a hairbrain idea.
The xperia play is still the loudest xperia phone I ever had back in the day. Now I was wondering, if. By any means at all would it be possible to put a xperia play speaker in my Z1?(I wonder what that would do to the waterproofing.)
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No, not possible, the Z1 speaker sucks because it has loads of protection against water on the inside replacing it with a different one would probably require heavy modifications to the phone's body
Your only option would be to install a custom kernel with sound control and use something like faux/kernel adiutor/pimp my Z1/... To up the sound leven beyond the stock limit

Rear camera replacement with z5 camera is possible?

My rear camera broken i want to replace it New one. Looking at ebay i see z5 rear camera hardware same connection with z3c camera. Is that possible replacement anybody idea?
I don't think it can be done but in fact they looks quite the same. You can replace Z3 <--> Z3c and Z1 <--> Z1c but I don't think it gonna work after replacing across different models.
Chamelleon said:
I don't think it can be done but in fact they looks quite the same. You can replace Z3 <--> Z3c and Z1 <--> Z1c but I don't think it gonna work after replacing across different models.
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maybe modified rom and install z5 cam app it can possible. even camera app upgrade possible for z3 we sure about that
I think even if connector is the same phone must have dedicated driver to work with peripherals. So firs thing is driver IC on board and then software driver.
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It's quite interesting. When someone brings me Z5/Z5c for repair I'll try to check it.
Do it!
Tell us if it works.
any good news?
Still no damaged Z5
@up
I'm for your service! Give me Z5C and I will damage it as much as you want! But is it even driver possible?
Any news?
Thanks!

Z1 camera interchangeability

Hi guys,
My Z1 camera suddenly died and I'm at the point which I have to decide which one to buy. I have an option to take very cheaply Z3 camera which seems to be identical as Z1 - so the question is: is it interchangeable between Z1/Z3?
I don't want to brick my device
TIA
Afaik , the Z1 and the z3 have different sensors. So i don't think thats going to work.
Z3 camera will work on Z1
Sorry for the bad english
Z3 camera will work on Z1
But Z1 camera will not work on Z3
If u port Z1 camera app to Z3 it will also work on Z3 also
I m using Xperia Z1 One week ago i changed my camera with Xperia Z3+ and picture and video look awesome
But Z3+ camera is slimer than Z1 but there is no problems with that it will work great and it is better in low light also.
Vinu155 said:
Sorry for the bad english
Z3 camera will work on Z1
But Z1 camera will not work on Z3
If u port Z1 camera app to Z3 it will also work on Z3 also
I m using Xperia Z1 One week ago i changed my camera with Xperia Z3+ and picture and video look awesome
But Z3+ camera is slimer than Z1 but there is no problems with that it will work great and it is better in low light also.
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That's what I heard, Z1/Z2/Z3 use the same i2c bus/commands and connector. Wasn't sure if kernel or camera apk itself has some white/blacklist. Well, I'm waiting for my delivery and would try it.
BTW: my camera was signed as G3 which I suppose came from Z2.
So, FYI -> Z3 cam in Z1 works flawlessly, no problems at all.

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